Tranner regrets

Trans person here, as in - been transitioning for. Few weeks now, hormones and all.

I think I'm finding out I just want to be a feminine guy. I've always been fem, and love female asthetics. But, lately I don't want to transition. Call it "realizing my male privilege" or whatever. But I've noticed a shit load of people like me exist, but are kinda silenced. The implication of detransitioners being 'silenced' is a bit scary.

So tell me pol, assuming I pass well, am I better if being a bi femme male or a fake woman? Maybe the hormones are getting to me, but trans shit just sounds so fishy, and they always use this "female brain" thing, which has been cited as bunk af.

I have a older brother and he's all I got. I don't want to break his heart. Help me figure this out becouse I don't trust the lgbt community.

Lol, faggot.

fpbp

I'm really sick of this same fucking thread every day please think of a new way to get (you)s.

>when ya buy the spicy cinnamon toothpaste

>But I've noticed a shit load of people like me exist, but are kinda silenced. The implication of detransitioners being 'silenced' is a bit scary.
Absolutely internalized victimisation complex, no one in the west is truly silenced besides some right wing views. They're avoiding you because you're still not passing, you look like a freak or ugly girl.

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if you were meant to be a feminine male, your body would have done that naturally. you probably just have an attention based mental disorder. please stop taking hormones and re-evaluate yourself and maybe consider some antidepressants until you can develop better stress management.

yea yea, faggot whatever. Don't really care. Im just telling the truth. This transgender thing is a legit problem.

Imagine if someone cut your balls off and shot you up with estrogen and called you a girl? Would you like that? Now imagine if someone convinced you to do it to yourself.

Im just being honest with myself, becouse i've yet to meet a transperson who could honestly answer me without seeming dodgy as fuck.

Just KYS mate, maybe God exists and he'll make you a girl.

Go away bad brain

>Implying the transgender movement hasn't been pushed by bug pharma to get people stuck paying for hormone treatment for the rest of their lives.

Unless you pay a shit ton of money for plastic surgery everyone will know your a dude. Even then in 10ish years your gonna look like shit. Just do what other faggots do and take it in the ass.

Just be a femme man. The penis is the best anyways, and you can always crossdress I guess if you're feeling agp

Whichever one doesn't involve you mutilating yourself.

>Call it "realizing my male privilege" or whatever.

Gave me a chuckle I very much needed. Thanks OP.

Lol, faggot.

Be a person first, do not let some "identity" based on clothing, pronouns and shit define what you are
Find things you enjoy to do and do them, and , yes, stay away from the faggot community, pure aids

Stop being a self indulgent fuck and do some useful with your life - find something that you enjoy other than masturbating about your gender and pursue it as hard as you can. Stop wasting your life thinking about your shitty gender.

>Few weeks now

okeeeey

Fuck yous, hope yous get cancer

>becoming a trap
You are gay

Just take low-dose Pueraria Mirifica ... you'll get the mental effects of E, but not the drastic physical changes of HRT.
Higher doses of PM will give you boobs, though.

One minute you're mutilating yourself, the next you've transitioned into post-humanism.
Pic related.

you're not trans. You're mentally ill. Get your life together. Get your test tested. You need help, not feminization.

>woman on the inside
lmao keep telling yourself that

You are a fag degenerate.
Even so, being a fag degenerate with a dick and intact hormones is better than the alternative.
Stop, see a shrink

Inject 2 grams of test every week and take anti estrogens until this faggotry passes over

where did all you tranny freaks come from?

>that file name
nice
>on a serious note
Did somebody actually do that and did it work?

>if you were meant to be a feminine male, your body would have done that naturally.
it did apparently. I get told i look like a girl when i wear my hair long. Im already pretty feminine.

>you probably just have an attention based mental disorder. please stop taking hormones and re-evaluate yourself and maybe consider some antidepressants until you can develop better stress management.

well, i did have a bad attention seeking problem. But i actually got through it a few years ago after i started improving my life again.

I found out i have been accidentally doing cbt to myself after finding out its a thing. I've been focusing on improving myself and pinpointing my insecurities and stuff for so long, that im losing intrest in transitioning. I don't find myself stressed very often.

But i do find im alot more in touch with my emotions now. And, this is going to sound stupid, but i just watched the season 1 finaly of dexter with my roomate, and realized how much i love my brother, and how much of my identity i've constructed during these years of self improvement revolves around me being a male and a brother, and a son.

I feel like by transitioning, im killing myself in a way.

Also, you shouldn't be so hostile towards someone asking for advice. Its not becoming.

not political , fys faggot

sage

Just be a cute boy and post your asshole.

Go camping for a week by yourself. Don't use your cell phone, aside from emergencies, and get away from all the noise. Take a notebook. Journal about your past and present. Look at your strengths and weaknesses, and try to find square one. I, personally, think you should take a Bible with you and just start reading it (begin at the New Testament). I recommend a KJV or NKJV. Wish you the best.

I hope so. I'm half tempted to find out for myself though

You brutish heartless pig deserve subversion and sub-human white trash status, scumbag

What's wrong OP? Don't want to dilate your fake vagina 2 hours a day or else it will scab over?

Every tranny in Brazil takes hormones and gets fake tits and dangerous silicone injections for hips and ass but they all consider themselves "gay men". In fact they consider themselves the only honest gay men as they dress their sexuality and are 'out of the closet 24/7'. They also say anybody who considers themselves to be actually of the opposite gender is mentally ill 100%.

That's what you are. A fag who likes to dress as a woman. There's no 'feminine brain' or any of that nonsense. Just be a fag, take hormones and get tits or whatever for body mod/aesthetic reasons like some hipster getting tattoos and ear plugs. You are now the majority of """trans""" people, like in Asia/South America they are all this: dudes who LARP as female because they're into body mods but don't consider themselves actually female (that's crazy).

Stop being such a self-absorbed whiny faggot.

This. And start going to a church. Don't destroy yourself.

Here's my advice. Try the following:
>Stop taking estrogen
>Start working out
>Look into trying out pimozide to treat your mental illness, 2 mg daily apparently will work.
>Accept that you are male. End of story.
If possible, in regards to the pimozide, try to find a doc that will administer this as a trial and record the findings. We need more data on this.

And, on the flipside, DON'T DO THE FOLLOWING:
>Take any more female hormones
>Crossdress
>Initiate any transitions surgery. You will probably regret it and commit suicide.

read pic related if you want to see how deep the tranny hole goes

Enjoy your wildly increased odds of committing suicide. RIP.

Trans people could end the bigotry they garner if they just offered to blow anyone who thought they were degenerate. This is a paradox, but true. It's impossible to hate anyone who'll suck your dick. It's written into nature; it was there with the Big Bang.

>Get your test tested.
did. All test came back exactly normal ranges. If you didn't know, getting your levels tested is required to be prescribed hormones.

>Stop, see a shrink
i only started transitioning because my shrink convinced me its the right thing to do. Her and all my female friends in rl.

This is genuinly good advice. I've been doing so much lately this gender shit is just a distraction. But i cant help but keep drifting back to it. im not the type who can dive into one subject and lose myself. And i find it hard to move throughout life with this lingering since of identity issues.

>stay away from the faggot community, pure aids
i can agree with that. THis is one of my main problems with trans shit. Other trans seem to think makeup and dresses makes you a woman. Even asking people to call me a girl feels forced and annoying.

>Inject 2 grams of test every week and take anti estrogens until this faggotry passes over
that test cures trans bs is a myth. My test levels have always been normal, and higher when i smoked a pack a day becosue smoking cigs blocks estrogen in the blood or something. One of the reasons trannies have to quit when they start estrogen.

Just be your self, and stop trying to fit a label. Do what you want to do, not what others want you to do.

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Revolting degenerate.

You have problems. Don't seek professional help. Go to a church. Find God.

And quit being a fag.

>Wiring electrodes to chicken parts
>mfw we're getting close to making nueron-electric links doing so

I mean, any change makes you some certain percentage different from the previous you, and therefore "kills" you in a way.

But a change so drastic is naturally a larger leap, and visibly kills a version of you forever.

Like losing an arm kills 2 armed you for good.

And chopping a dick off kills "non-abomination" you for good.

Transgenderism does not mean you actually have a female brain or "are" a woman in any way, just that you get disphoric signalling in your brain related to sexually dimorphic anatomy. The hormones are there to make you not feel like carving your own flesh off. Sounds like it's working. How you choose to dress or present yourself has literally nothing to do with your disease, nor who or what you are (which is male, down to the very last cell)

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You're a male, and now it is time for you to become a man. Tough shit, but we all gotta do it.

Feminine in what way? I grew my hair out to the small of my back and had a bmi of like 18 and was never mistaken for being female.

Do you have a female figure or do you conduct yourself as female and dress in androgynous clothes?

Also as to your original question femme boy is better. Faggots>trannies also its more reversible and you won't kill your chances at genetic success.

Stop taking the hormones and see how you feel when the testosterone starts coming back. If you still crave the estrogen a few weeks later, you're probably trans.

This too.

The worst thing about so-called trans people is they are obsessed with themselves. Get a career, help your community, do fucking something stop thinking about your dick or cunt for one day.

I'm wondering, did you start watching pornography at a young age?
How about sexual experiences, did you first start finding yourself attracted to boys or to girls?

Do you feel warped, or do you feel set in your thinking?

Also, regardless of anything else, DO NOT GET SURGERY. It's fucking retarded, extremely invasive, will be sorely disappointing, and has no clinical data backing its implementation, unlike HRT which does work, via as of yet unelucidated mechanics

Whats that user, are you realizing "Transgender Normalizing" is actually just people trying to say push mental illness on people?

That it's okay to be a feminine guy but giving yourself body dysphoria is a bad thing? Oh jeez its the whole Depression thing all over agian.

This

It's probably just misinterpretation and lies. I knew a guy who suddenly decided he was a tranny after failing college and getting a dead end job, and before I cut him off he would post about how sometimes people would mistake him for a girl, even though he was a 6 foot man who usually wore a beard and was built like a fridge.

how can we get more trans people to kill themselves since they cant deal with reality anyways? shouldnt be that hard since their so stupid.

Don't transition. Just move to the nearest big city near you and be gay. Literally no one cares.

Wallahi, has it ever occurred to you that your body and ideas could change naturally? Have some respect for history. The nuances of what we consider masculine or feminine, they are unique to this time and place. It's a unique notion that if you feel like a woman, you really are one inside. Don't take drastic action on a premise like that.

FRESHENS BREATH!

Literally become just a faggot. You could even become straight if you stop masturbating and watching porn.

Stop liking to take it in the butt. God hates you for that, and you WILL burn in hell if you keep doing it.

Accept that you are a man, start working out and, if you really are in need of hormone therapy, take fucking testosterone.

>am I better if being a bi femme male or a fake woman?

You'd be better off if you stopped mutilating your body just because you don't want to admit that you're a faggot, m8

>Go camping for a week by yourself. Don't use your cell phone, aside from emergencies, and get away from all the noise. Take a notebook. Journal about your past and present. Look at your strengths and weaknesses, and try to find square one.

solid advice holms, but i bought a trailer for my land 6 months back. During about 2 months, i lived without electricity or internet. Just charged my phone to use as an alarm. See, i had previously almost transition a year before, but i said "fuck that shit" and went and found a girl and lost my virginity. Broke up with her because i felt wrong for some reason. Being trapped without entertainment made me come back to these identity issues and forced me to make a choice. I did the dance and therapy and stuff, and now here i am.

yea, fuck that. Ill keep the dick unless they invent womb transplants ty.

this is what i get. THis is how i feel. i couldn't ever call myself a woman. But i just have these strong urges to dress and look feminine. I hate looking masculine.

Before i started transitioning, i was working out with my uncle for like...6-7 months. I went from like 120 to 150 in just muscle since i cant get fat. The whole time i kept telling myself, this is what i had to be. This is what i was born to be. I'll get big, fuck bitches, have kids. Didn't work.

lol if it were that easy, ide do it.

if thats the one about srs or whatever, i've already read it. I've consumed copious e amounts of anti trans propaganda in attempts to find some sort of path that would lead to a cure. But its still here.

i still dont have a solid answer either. I guess the consensus is, do what i want, just don't call myself female?

The real answer would be to realize that your mental picture of what you could be is
1. A completely unachievable fantasy by you specifically
2. Actually fucking retarded and divorced from the reality of physical perfection

I can actually sort of understand female to man transgenders, because you know what, men are just fucking better. Why would you want to be a weak, fat, dependent loser? Because that's what women are, and you wouldn't even have a real cunt.

not approving of your faggotry, but you're better off just being a degenerate homo twink getting your boipucci smashed rather than fucking yourself up even more with hormones and castrating yourself. Suicide is always an option though, you don't need to wait.

Go the fuck to church. You aren't a woman and you never will be. You have just been brainwashed to hate everything masculine and hate yourself. Stop poisoning yourself, go to the gym and to church, and cut yourself off from all your degenerate sicko 'friends'.

studies indicate close to 80% of people experiencing gender identity issues literally grow out of it. promoting transitioning amongst anyone who even questions their sexuality/gender is fucking retarded. The lifetime suicide rate for transgender people is 41% before transitioning and 38% after transitioning. Negligible at best. Don't destroy your body.

tits or get the fuck out

We used to love and celebrate femme men as an unusual, but perfectly normal occurrence.
Bowie, prince, micheal jackson, and so many fashion icons.
Don't let anyone convince you that your body has to "match" your personality.
You be you. Drugging yourself will literally change how your brain works.
You won't be you anymore.
So my vote is, be you.

>a shrink and friends pressured you into that stuff???

That's some fucked up shit! Just focused on "Be" and "Being" don't "be trans" or "be a Man" or "be a woman" just "BE" as you are.

Embrace that shit! If that means you smell the flowers on walks, then take the biggest fucking wiff in the world. Build up yourself and know yourself so you can just "BE".

You need to build a barrier between yourself and the outside world right now. Cut off all influences that are pulling and pushing on you. It will be rough user. But you are in a critical stage of self development!

Buy some rope
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every ex trans or detransitioner i've listened to always has a god story behind them. Im sorry, but i cant buy it.

yea, i wouldn't chop off my dick. Whats the point of having a vag if i cant give birth? And if im getting fucked, its probably going to be by a gay guy anyways, so he'll be used to anal.

ill give you that. Im pretty afraid that it is working and thats why i don't feel the need to transition anymore. And that when i stop, ill just hop back on again.

Thats what im saying. I don't want an easy mode. I've accomplished more than both of my parents in there entire lives by working my ass off in three years. I've been through the struggle, working three jobs. Im still struggling to pay my mortgage. I think my viewpoint on life was that i need to suffer. That suffering was living. And that running away and being trans was a weakness. Thats one of my main aversions to it.

yea i really want to have biological children.
And, it was probably just my bosses as work fucking with me for growing my hair out, but since i don't really grow facial hair and wore it in a girly style (skinny jeans and stuff didn't help much i guess), he would tell me i look like a girl with my hair like that (which made me feel good obv). Plus, i had a few people tell me i should have been born a girl before...

i have a career for a great company. I just hit my pay limit, and am lined up for managment next year when promotions hit. I own land and just bought a nice trailer and am renting a room out to a friend. Im doing fine. Its honestly a question at this point, do i want a wife and kids or do i want a husband and adopt.

they leaked from preppit and /lgbt/ or something, I really wish they joined the 45% soon

>ill give you that. Im pretty afraid that it is working and thats why i don't feel the need to transition anymore.
"Transition" isn't real. The hormones improve mental health through extremely poorly understood mechanisms, the effect on the body is entirely coincidental. Continue to take the hormones and you'll continue to feel fine, stop and you'll feel like killing yourself again. You have your solution, stop freaking out.

>this

Listen to hin. Don't ruin your and your brothers life!

>you start watching pornography at a young age?
interesting you brought that up. Found my step dads porno vhs tapes when i was like 9. But i pretty much gave up porn in 2015. If i kept watching porn and didn't do the nofap thing, i wouldn't be transitioning.

>did you first start finding yourself attracted to boys or to girls?
Always had my female crushes as a kid. I did like guys emotionally though and had a few best friends i had crushed on. So, bi scum leaning hetro obv. Plus i've only fucked girls, and only sucked dick once (guy was fat though and pretty unattractive).

>Do you feel warped, or do you feel set in your thinking?
neither? Im open minded.

exactly what i was thinking.

yea i know.

but, i mean. Would bowie and prince and them have taken hormones to become more fem if they had that option and thats what they wanted? Or just...get over it?

whut? I get it. I guess. i just plan for the future to much. If i continued doing exactly as i wanted, i would keep taking hormones and go get fucked every weekend.

But i cant stop thinking about the future. And what im losing by choosing to just follow my desires.

>yea i really want to have biological children
Then stop taking hormones asap
Transitioning won't solve any of your issues, it'll just give the illusion of change, and comfort of that.
It's a security blanket. It's there to make you feel safe, but it's ultimately just a sign that you're being held back from growing and becoming stronger

Better bi femmboy than going trans. That said, if you're willing to take drugs/hormones for the purpose of becoming more feminine, why are you not considering taking drugs/hormones for the purpose of invigorating your masculinity? Many people with trans/homosexual leanings may simply lack testosterone/upbringing to solidify their masculine senses. In fact, I would argue that even 'regular gays' often just need more testosterone should they be tripping further into an extreme self-view of femininity.

Whatever you do, understand the consequences of transitioning. You will be seen as a mentally ill freak because it is indeed an unfortunate illness/malformity of the brain. Your internal physical health will suffer, your mental and emotional stability will be negatively affected, and your place in society among respectable individuals will likely be severed.

I personally believe a diet and activities promoting testosterone growth are some of the most important and valuable options for individuals like yourself, beyond taking hormones/drugs. Take it from another mentally ill individual who, admittedly, has some closeted homosexual leanings. It's not healthy, and your life will suffer as a result of accepting a false truth. I accept that I'm a bit gay, and I argue others should accept themselves too, but always attempt to be better and healthier. Don't succumb to your demons, overwhelm them with brute, unrelenting force. You are a man after all-- that is how it is done by men.

When will jews start encouraging/importing these degenerates in my country? Yes we have one or two faggots but the rest of this filth doesn't exist I wonder why.

so then. Would you mind explaining to me why you think they work and why i should keep taking them?

ubermensch much?
Honestly, kinda holding out for artificial sperm and egg cells. Herd that was a thing now.

>would bowie and prince and them have taken hormones to become more fem if they had that option and thats what they wanted?
That's the point. They were from an era before their behavior was associated with being trans
Instead of rejecting the form they had, they just embraced their own form (not counting jacksons face) and expressed themselves in many ways.
Bowie's expression of his various androgenous and effeminate sides were far healthier than making permanent, chemical changes.
Most trans people i know hated gender ROLES. They resented the associations made with their sex. Break those roles, don't break your body.

you weren't a real tranny that's why user

>ubermensch much?
I don't understand why you're making that reference
>Artificial sperm cells
Unless you're secretly under age, this tech won't be available to you. It's gen z or further. Too far down the pipeline.

If you were a normal male then you wouldn't have ever gone down this path. Accept your fate, or be miserable forever in a way that none of these people can imagine. You're not going to learn anything about your problem from these people.

yea that sounds really fancy lol. I dont get you guys obsessions with testosterone. I say again though. Smoking cigs and had my levels checked. They were normal if not slightly above, hence my extremely high metabolism and difficulty gaining weight. if anything, higher test means more homosexual tendancies. Just browse fit. I do see how it might not be my actual test levels, but my receptors or something like that though.

Plus, honestly i just hate the male body. Its disgusting, i just cant stand looking masc. . I've been shaving my legs on and off since high school and dont really grow body hair. Plus no beard yet and im 23 while all my 19 y/o buddies have full blown beards.

Dont chop your dick off or get plastic surgery op. You are going to off yourself in 15 years if you do.

>so then. Would you mind explaining to me why you think they work
We don't have much clue. We know it's not because of the effect on the body because they work even in those where the body doesn't change much, and because other interventions which change the body to match the desired form (such as cosmetic surgery) show no improvement of prognosis.
Our lack of understanding is largely rooted in the fact that we don't actually know what causes transgenderism. I mean there's the pregnancy hormone theory, but that's unproven, and more importantly we don't know what effect that would have on the body to cause transgenderism. There is precisely one identified part of the brain that is "reversely" differentiated in trannies before HRT, but it's not a likely candidate for the transgender phenotype. My guess would be that it's some sort of congenital defect in the peripheral nervous system causing it to incorrectly send out "sick" signals in response to androgenic extracellular signals, which HRT could fix by blocking the signaling cascade. But that's pure speculation
>why i should keep taking them?
Because it's the only intervention that has been demonstrated to improve prognosis, IE, how likely you are to hurt or kill yourself later down the line. Everything else, therapy, cross dressing, cosmetic surgery, SRS, nothing else has any detectable effect.

Planning for the future adds in all that pressure of "outside identity" just focus on the now for a moment. Be hyper aware of the current. "BE" in the now.

Yeah it sounds like some crazy hippy bullshit, but I don't know how else to describe it. You kind of already threwout hope of using religious/Biblical arguments, but like Jesus broke all the chains of slavery so people can just "BE".

>Plus, honestly i just hate the male body. Its disgusting, i just cant stand looking masc.
Wait, so you aren't attracted to men?
Also, as an extremely bearded man in his mid thirties, a LOT of people don't really get nice beards until late twenties.
Basically, as you hit the late twenties wall your body slows slightly, and your body hair grows more.

ubermensch is all about accepting your life and embracing your suffering. Thats what you seemed to be implying.

better them than that cancerous lgbt board. I know im not a normal male, i was told so my entire childhood. Im willing to be there a not so normal person out there for me though. Plus, pretending to be normal has worked pretty well. Honestly, the more i talk about it the more certain im making the right decision and should continue on my path.

You will never join us, but make a crude mockery of our sex.

"Trans" do not seek to embrace delicate femininity, but to make themselves into their own living fetish. They want to play a role, usually a bimbo. Just look at "Gigi gorgeous". A Olympic qualified athlete allows himself to degenerate into a living blow up doll. To maim and torture an otherwise healthy body is a disgrace to nature/God. Doesn't matter which, both have forsaken you.

It's like $10 a month dude. I have no idea where these huge figures are coming from. So about ten grand over a lifetime.

And what the fuck do you want us to tell you? you're fucked already, also i will like to read your opinion on >pic related

yea i dont like body hair. And im not really attracted to me. I have two guys at work that are super cute. One kinda looks like twilight guy, and the other is some 6'4 spanish guy who looks like he could be related to ann hathaway. I dont want a beard though. I've been through hell trying to get rid of my mustache shadow. And shaving my leg hair has gotten harder as i've aged.