Was the Aias one of his projections or was it an original?

Was the Aias one of his projections or was it an original?

>archer
>original

Wasn't Archer only able to project swords? If he needed another tool he usually do a two-step process to make one, which involves modifying a sword into something else.

No, he can trace anything, but if it's not a sword it will take him more time/mana and will be less effective.

Google works wonders my friend. It's how I learned about Aias.

Give one thing original about EMIYA. You can't.

His clothes.

bakuya and kanshou

His fighting style.

His cooking.

Those are copies too, Gan Jiang and Mo Ye.

His maximum butthurt because his younger self had a threesome with Rin and Seiba.

He's the first one to have developed a style for using them, though.

no he can't trace "anything" he can only trace melee weapons and some degraded shields

A present from Ciel.

>he can only trace melee weapons

he literally traced a bow

His sexiness. Can't trace that.

Name one servant that had a cooler summoning than Archer.

when did they meet?

They're both Counter Guardians

he stole gil's hairdo.

Isn't Archer get real Aias while being alive?

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He saw a piece of the original shield.

The shield Archer recreates is conceptual shield based on the shard of the physical shield.

Name one thing original about Fate at all. You can't

ciel a counter guardian? what?

Penis worms?

>implying Nasu wasn't just inspired by nature
>Priapulida is a phylum of marine worms. The name of the phylum relates to the Greek god of fertility, because their general shape and their extensible spiny introvert may recall the shape of a penis.

Is his bow original?

Main theme

Jesus, mate. Read it up.

Projection

Have you even looked in his shed?

He can trace anything that isn't a divine construct. As long as he understand to structure and the materials needed are earthly, he can do it.

If Kerry never fucked up Shirou's circuits do you think he could have reached a point he could trace without rank loss, or even possibly rank upgrade?

If Kerry actually gave him his crest, would he be stronger?

probably on a hunt for Dead Apostles

Thought crests could only go to blood relatives, which is why Sakura had to go the penis worm route to become a Matou

no. the only thing Shirou has for himself is his Reality Marble and strengthening magic.
Getting knowledge about "Innate Time Control" would do him jackshit.

Shirou didn't fucked up his circuits, he juist didn't use them. Kerry teached him how to turn his nerves into makeshift magic circuits. Anyway more mana and better circuits won't take "rank down" away. It's UBW limitation

he can project anything but they will be "hollow shells" like the items he created in the epilogue.
swords and weapons affiliated with melee combat are the only things he can truly "copy", due to his Origin being "sword".

They have "nothing inside", but it doesn't matter for most items that only need a physical form to work. If he projects a blanket, it's still soft, has mass, and insulates. If he projects a bow, it still launches arrows. If he projects a fishing rod, it still reels fish in.

It's implied where he messes up is delicate machinery (that he can't understand instantly) and magical bullshit (that's not swords).

Shirou has no capacity to use the Emiya family magecraft due to elemental disaffinity and his circuits being huge pieces of shit that can only perform UBW.

Unlikely, the rank down is because Shirou himself cannot 100% process all of what makes a Noble Phantasm a Noble Phantasm. He would need a path to the Root like Void Shiki in order to understand every Mystery he sees.

> his own custom made bow
> his own archery skills
> his own sword style
> Crane Wing Three Realm

Considering whole thing about NP vs DA and how they suck balls against them if not used by true owners, it's more likely she saved him from them.

Narita should stop with the DA wankery desu

also, I think that applies only if a human uses its passive ability.

I very much doubt that your normal DA could survive a Broken Phantasm to the face.

It say that they deny the power of noble phantasms. Dude activated his spear NP and charged at Jester but he stopped and destroyed it with one finger. It looks that DAs are like imagine breaker to human-used NPs. Broken Phantasm damage should be reduced too.

??

Who is Jester?
Wrong thread, fuck off

He's DA who is Assassin Master in Fate/strange fake.

that's just ridiculous

Enforcers and Executors with Black Keys can hurt them, but they'd lolnope Noble Phantasms like Fragarach or Gae Bolg under any circumstances, when it is wielded by a human?

fuckin Narita...

Aren't Black Keys enchanted so they're deadlier to DA's and the like?

Black Keys are anti-DA weapons, so of course they work on them.

Gilgamesh pls

Black Keys are low-tier conceptual weapons
NPs are top-tier

by the same logic Enforcers shouldn't be capable of harming them with magecraft because "muh denial of human history"

Magic is not something that only humans can use, in fact most famous DAs are mages.

I think you don't know what Np is. It's not just powerful magic item
>Noble Phantasm [Armament]
>Noble Phantasm. The armaments carried by Heroic Spirits, made from humanity's illusions. Though they generally come in the form of things like swords, spears, or bows, there are also those Heroic Spirits whose Noble Phantasms are auxiliary armaments like shields, rings, or crowns.
Gae Bolg before it become famous wasn't NP, it was just magical spear and would work on DA. It's because NP are "humanity's illusions" DA can deny them

He can only "Practically" trace swords. This is why he quite literally can discard normally rather mana intensive projected swords as disposable

When a sword can't past muster, he can trace other tools or weapons at a much greater mana cost. He typically tries to cheat to escape that limitation, like firing a specialized sword from a bow with minimal enchantment.

But when nothing else will do, like in the case of Rho Aias, he just has to bite the bullet and trace it at full cost.

But in Fate Stay night route he trace Caliburn and even as fake, it proves very powerful.
In UBW also he said to have copied Excalibur and Shirou use it in HF sacrificing himself.
They do not seem just "hollow shells", but simple copies with less power, but still powerful enough

I wasn't talking about divine artifacts. I was talking about "everything else", like pots and kettles.

also, HF Shirou using Excalibur might be an outliner, because Nasu later specifically states that he can't trace it under normal circumstances.
there's a fanon theory that he could pull it through because the one at the end was just a cheap third rate knock off.

>He can only "Practically" trace swords

I think he can do it even with their spears

>"everything else", like pots and kettles.

yeah, sorry I did not understand.

I see now.
but shouldn't the same rule apply to Heroic Spirits as well, then?
I mean they're pretty much the embodiement of humanity's fables and legends.
especially if said one is a Counter Guardian, who is "employed" by the collective consciousness of humanity.

Counter Guardians = Gaia, not humanity.

it applies to everything that's affiliated with pointed weapons and shields

>his origin isn't "fake"

Completely fucking retarded Nasu, there's no hiding he's just Tomoe Enjou 2.0, why give him this bullshit origin

Don't know. Maybe because they sentient they don't allow to be denied. Cogito ergo sum or some shit. Better to ask Nasu

eh, no

The Counter Force is Alaya's first and last resort to prevent the eradication of humantiy.
Gaia gives no shit about humanity.

Unlimited Blade Works.

It's a retcon, Nasu likes to do that

Did Archer and Ciel fuck?

UBW's narrative mentioned that he had a woman he lost.

whether it was referring to Ciel it's up to debate

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