Developments Sep20 >N Hama atack RU MOD:offensive initiated by US secret service to stop advance of SAA in E DeZ Terrorist main aim was to seize RU MP's unit, they managed to encircle it RuAF strikes stop the attack killing 850+,11 tanks, 4 IFVs, 46 pickups&5 mortars. SAA reversed all jiadi gains >DeZ Ru MOD:IS strongest attacks come form N where US/SDF is US opens dams on Euphrates to prevent crossing of SAA SAA advances in NW DeZ, 30km to SAA troops from SE Raqqa >Raqqa:SDF controls 80% >Hama/homs pocket:IS ejected from 5 towns >Military source:US says ready to leave Al-Tanf >Rouhani:Trump 'rogue' newcomer|IRGC commander:US “corrupt and bullying state” >Ru Mod:500 rebels deflect to gov last 24h >Netanyahu:we will act to prevent Iran from establishing permanent military bases in Sy >Erdogan:Will impose sanctions if Kurdish referendum held >Saudi bombing kills 9 members of same family in Yemen >900 days of Saudi Yemen aggression:12907 citizens dead,21k injured, destroyed 15 airports,14 ports,1941 bridges&roads,296 hospitals&medical facilities,791 schools,114 university facilities /sg Army 2017 - myalbum.com/album/seYvACY7CtIm
>Israel bombs Damascus again Are the Syrians just NOT firing back, or are they THAT BAD?
Jaxson Stewart
>Israel bombs Damascus again How deeply is russia concerned?
Jacob Miller
>Chinese flood Canada again Are the whites just NOT fighting back, or are they THAT BAD?
Tyler Kelly
Depends what happened and what got hit
Thanks for the bake OP, I'm off. catch you lads in the light.
Luke King
(((North Korea)))
Samuel Johnson
I think different. Apartheid *is* the best state that can be. A two state solution would be a disaster - basically surrendering the Palestinian territories to Hamas. At least, with the status quo, Israel has some level of control as to what happens inside them.
On the other hand, I believe a 1 state solution, will be a complete disaster. Just looking at the historical parallels, such as South Africa, Zimbabwe, hell, even America, where the Blacks are their mini-Palestinians.
I think Apartheid is the only solution and *should* be kept, in perpetuity if possible. You may not like it, and that's okay, but at the end of the day, this is how things *need* to be.
Brody Martin
But Canada helped the commie chinese in Fallout 3
Robert King
>The Russian Defence Ministry said the U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) had taken up positions on the eastern banks of the Euphrates with U.S. special forces, and twice had opened fire with mortars and artillery on Syrian troops who were working alongside Russian special forces.
>In a sign of the high stakes as both forces come in increasing proximity, U.S. and Russian generals held a face-to-face meeting this week in an effort to avoid accidental clashes, U.S. military officials said on Thursday.
>A Russian military police unit of 29 personnel was encircled as the militants sought to capture it and was repelling the attacks for several hours together with a local tribe that had signed a cease-fire agreement. A group of Russian Spetsnaz and Syrian special operations forces came to the rescue, backed by Su-25 strike fighters. The military police unit broke the siege and left the area. Three servicemen were wounded.
Palestinians won't stand for it forever, nor should they. Not to get too emotional about it but, they're human beings not fucking cattle, Israel can't just herd them into pens because they feel like Jews should own the land.
I don't want Israel to fail or fall to Iran/proxies, because it would result in a mass genocide, but it would be really hard to blame the Palestinians for becoming radicals when Israel continually refuses to treat them equally.
Aaron Gonzalez
Barrel bomb commies
Alexander Murphy
>US troops fired on our dudes >also US troops are commanding the HTS offensive in Hama You'll forgive me for calling absolute bullshit given their track record in terms of factual accuracy.
Matthew Bennett
You're both wrong, Israel will simply become a blanda state. It's already happening demographically. Soon there will be enough brown Israelis to politically oppose the Jewish racialists who by that point will be the only thing standing in the way of Palestinian reconciliation and normalized relations with Syria.
Jace Baker
how come Israel and the US can escalate all they want but god forbid Syria and Russia retalaite The rules of the game are so stupid
Owen Powell
>hurr durr USA would never and has never pulled this bullshit
Can you go crawl back into the hole you came out of again? You left for so long after the SAA was making gainz and now that stuff slows down again you come back like a poor mans Countryside.
Jacob Cook
Well that would be progress, but unfortunately the only way you reconcile with Syria is if you reconcile with Iran at this point, and the Iranian clergy have a strict theocratic reasoning to oppose Israel. You would need to secularize the Iranian government to reconcile the two.
Samuel Myers
No, actually they haven't, not this war anyway.
The US has never had troops deployed to Idlib and environs, ever. Only the Russians, Syrians, Iranians, and /sg/ believe their own nonsense that there are US operatives running the show there.
Sebastian Russell
>goading your enemy to attack you while pic related is already accomplished
lel
Parker Lee
Feel bad for them honestly but I guess that's the result of the endless region destabilization and "ethnostate for me but not for thee" shenanigans.
Nathaniel Hall
(((Secularization))) sounds an awful lot like regime change to me
Blake Smith
>all these US SF rumours
ISIS must be really be getting BTFO
Parker Phillips
The leaders of Iran, like all other Muslim politicians, use the palestinian expulsion as their main theocratic and their main humanistic argument against Israel. If Muslims are given a nominally equal franchise in Irael, meaning some majority Arab cities with names come back, it's over. Iran would never attack such a state, even if they cling to the name and flag of Israel.
Assad will try to get Golan back regardless.
Logan Bell
For the better.
Chase Nelson
He uh....he really shouldn't. His Dad tried, but I guess he never taught him about that.
Thomas Kelly
yeah had the original plan succeeded the US would be doing peacekeeping operations in the Republic of Iran instead Israel finds itself tossing rocks in a river trying to delay what's coming falling back on using ISIS instead of American troops actually made things worse for them in the long run as it resulted in the creation of all these Shia militias and has given Hezbollah lots of combat experience
Jacob Robinson
Not an argument
Gabriel Smith
Just a reminder.
Xavier Morgan
I think you mean, his father had an elaborately planned learning experience. They probed Israel's capabilities, and their failure (Sadat's betrayal played a role) resulted in a grudge that Hafez carried for the next 27 years. I'm sure the whole thing left a deep impression on Bashar and other commanding Syrians. They will be back in some form, and whatever happens will be a far cry from the 1973 war.
Lincoln Martinez
just heard about this, need to be caught up what is the reported reason and the real reason behind the Israeli bombing of Damascus airport?
Carter Jenkins
YA BASHAR
Jack Moore
>tfw Israel's puppet Rojava will be ripped into peaces
Joshua Robinson
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Luis Lee
Reported: the targets are Iranian missiles for Hezbollah. Actual: Hezbollah and south lebanon are really their main areas of focus but the IDF is also attacking Assad repeatedly in an attempt to needle him.
Mason Williams
Muh hezbollah excuses by the Jews as per usual
Brayden Lee
Russia brought in a second A-50 but apparently they aren't using them to detect Israeli jets.
Julian Sullivan
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Asher Perez
Thoughts /sg/?
Ayden Thomas
>Airstrike engaged!
Liam Smith
What do you think Assad will use on Rojava once he's done with Isis.
Josiah Adams
Like talking to an intelligent madman
Jose Carter
The U.N has no power. It means nothing
Chase Walker
>when the conflict has slowed to a crawl fuck this is getting a bit boring
Connor Torres
the un has been completely taken over by muslism and african dictators.
Caleb Jackson
Based korea
John Kelly
and yet every time the us wants iran syria n korea china ectectect to do something there they are. so which is it?
Parker Parker
yeah
Josiah Rivera
African dictators haven't been relevant for 30 years
James Roberts
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Nicholas Allen
seems like some countries think they are above the law
William Hill
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Aaron Scott
you're free to have another go with the emus to try an win your independence back from them anytime m8 i'm sure she'll be roight this time
Juan Foster
No, no, that's not the point. Of course if you treat people like cattle, they'll fucking revolt. That's obvious to anyone - that's why Israel just needs to keep trowing them some bones every once in a while, really keep under wraps any Palestinian getting killed (and it only ever happens because some kid is trying something stupid anyway - but that won't convince the decided jew-haters). I admit that I'm not sure if it can truly work forever, I'm not a fortune teller, but the way I look at it, the setting we have right now is the best chance for both Palestine and Israel to keep existing.
This is one of the pitfalls of the one state solution as well, that's why I think it's untenable in the long run (if we agree that we want to keep Israel as Israel, at least)
Brandon Parker
yeaaah oh well
Connor Nguyen
So, why does Russia cuck out to Israel?
Robert Scott
Russia is "cucking out" because it recognizes legitimate national interests. It has one, Israel has one.
Kevin Howard
>if we agree that we want to keep Israel as Israel it can work as a jewish containment state just as well without their current NatSoc ideology. The whole thing is a historical anomaly, so I don't care about them from a national perspective. Israel's head start as a developed nation will be maintained by remaining Jewish liberals and the diaspora, even if it becomes mizrahistan.
Landon Jackson
game on motherfuckers!!
Brandon Adams
But Israel won't be Israel anymore if it gets taken over by the Arabs (I don't think it would, btw - I think that theory is a load of alarmist crap)
Julian Miller
so? not even 100 years of statehood. it has never been very stable
Bentley Flores
Get rekt
Brody Miller
The US wouldn't be stable too if it had China where Canada is, Russia as Mexico, and the Pacific as Iran and the Atlantic as Iraq.
Jaxon Hall
It's cucking out 100 percent
It'd be like the US letting Iran do airstrikes on Iraq back when the US was there in full
Evan Myers
>I am Nationalist and a Globalist What did he mean by than?
Lucas Long
The US of our day operates on a completely different worldview, of course that wouldn't have happened.
so lets see how the iranian proxies in here feel about this
Blake Jackson
Serves those kikes right. They are scrambling like rats to get every litre of oil they can get out before they are forced to leave.
Blake Smith
T.Cianigger
Ayden Baker
>stratfor
Eli Ortiz
Funny how they think "god" gave them that land and its barren. Almost like their god hates them.
Isaac Stewart
Poland is between Germany and Russia. Not a country you necessarily want to emulate, but what is the "right" response to this? Should we arm and encourage Poland to defeat both at once?
Israel won against pre-modern Arab states on their own in 1948. However everything since then has been artificial attempts, heavily assisted by foreign powers, to blast or assassinate their enemies back to the stone age, thus keeping any modern opponent from exposing Israel's strategic weakness. In order for Israel to "remain Israel," the parade of deposed governments and murdered states must continue. Would you trade Iran for another decade of Israel?
Jordan Wood
>#Syria #Quneitra Heavy Clashes btw the Defenders of #Hader City & #SyrianArmedForces vs Militants of Beit Jinn - Tulol Al Hamr Area. another distraction?
Dominic Nelson
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Joshua Turner
ikr, fucking anti-semitic goys think they can deny Israels freedom of flight?!
Jose Parker
Poland isn't universally reviled by every one of its neighbors for some tangential reason. The Germans and Russians didn't come to Poland to exterminate all the Poles - they just wanted the land, eventually the USSR even released Poland to be a protectorate. Not perfect but at least it can be called "Poland", not the "Polish SSR".
Not so for Israel, and I agree with you it's a very difficult problem. It wouldn't persist as a problem over generations if it was any sort of easy. All I'm suggesting is 1) We can't really expect the rest of the ME to suddenly accept Israel 2) Israel needs to protect itself 3) To do that, basically, the status quo should be preserved - not two-state, not one-state - the current apartheid status quo.
Anthony Price
yup
Joshua Nelson
>not liking stratfor
Haven't you seen their leaked glossary? It's fucking hilarious.
the "tangential reason" is, that ISN'T JEWISH LAND and it required ethnic cleansing to make space for jews. They should have been given Nevada instead.
I guarantee you Syria would be glad to hold back on exterminating Jews in return for adding Israel to its territory. However, because of the artificially strengthened Israeli armament, we'll never know. Israel refuses to give an inch, and thus the situation can only get bloodier, while the jewish nationalists rule.
Zachary Phillips
>Syria: Syrian Army battles IS in Hawijat Saqr neighbourhood (island) of Deir ez-Zor *EXCLUSIVE* youtube.com/watch?v=m3KnqZfPOis
Hunter Bell
good night great satan
Nathaniel Allen
Also, just because I glow in the dark doesn't make me a CIA nigger.
Also why the fuck does the CIA get all the credit? There's other agencies out there, you know. Bigger ones, even. More important, and higher up the food chain. Tax your fucking brain for a second and you might guess a few of 'em.
Bastards.
Thomas Rodriguez
pretty routine at this point
Ayden Morris
Vroom vroom cianigger
Oliver Lee
FREE KURDISTAN 3 DAYS
Brody Adams
once upon a time this job was cool
it was sneeki breeki in the jungle and setting booby traps for charlie and shit
and now it's "analyze the iran shills on the shitpost place"
I fucking just don't even
Noah White
great post fellow 'pede
Gabriel Nelson
Lies lies and bombardments. Pls go trump. Just go.
Leo Thomas
>legitimate national interests in order for israel to have legitimate national interests it would have to be a legitimate nation first
Jace Young
nkbk
Isaiah Price
On July 3rd, 1988, a domestic Iranian jetliner was shot out of the sky by a United States Navy Guided Missile Cruiser killing all 290 aboard. The incident concluded Cpt WIlliam C. Rogers III spat of aggression and thoughtless behavior in the region, with responsibility ultimately being shirked off by the americans in light of the Airbus A300 allegedly having appeared as an F14 on approach in tandem with military motorboats.
The end of this criminal, godless nation is at hand.
Nolan Nguyen
national globalism or global nationalism, pick your poison
Jose Young
To expand on this, the single most important form of aid to Israel is the permissive American attitude toward Israeli nuclear weapons. With US backup, nukes are the perfect retaliation threat. Golan is perhaps the one Israeli-held area Assad could invade without triggering an immediate nuclear strike. The decline of militant Israeli nationalism signals their gradual unwillingness to use nukes. . .
Ryder Flores
>iranian proxies wtf khameini is my president now #donewithdrumpf anyways, i literally said they would do this well beforehand, so what do i think about being proven to be always right? feels good man, brain yourself mccuck
Nathan Hernandez
>he can spell khameini without having to look it up
yep, iranian from iran.
Jaxon Miller
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Jackson Gomez
we just did, faggot
Cooper Flores
this is like this mandela affect of or some shit? i swear to god Khameini used to be spelled KhOmeni? or they two different people?
