Also isnt she still on her parent's plan?

also isnt she still on her parent's plan?

rofl

The problem is... I fucking hate liberals and don't give a shit. They force me to love niggers. Fuck them.

>They force me to love niggers
rofl
the thing is, they didn't bookmark all that BBC porn, you did

Haha,

No I still hate liberals.

you do realize you live in a liberal democracy

why doesn't this faggot just declare bankruptcy and stop thinking he is entitled to the fruits of my labor? i don't even know this fucking guy and i doubt he'd be happy to start writing me checks

do you use roads, or the post office, do you believe in equal oppertunity||?

Why isn't there a massive hate for car insurance in America? That's a forced insurance too, like ObamaCare.

yes i use all those things. i do not believe in equal opportunity. clearly there is no such thing. this guy rolled the dice on having a kid, turns out the kid has a disease. i don't care. i don't give a fuck. it's not like the kid will die. this guy will just have financial trouble. boo fucking hoo.

Because cars are optional, the healthcare fee is forced on you if you are so much as alive.

so uncivilized.

There aren't many places where you don't need a car.

Plus, taking from the car insurance thing, I can insure my car for $50 because everyone in my state is forced to have it, thus mitigating the cost / price of insurance.

The greater the pool the less risk and the less cost.

That's the reason why these GOP bills are going to drastically increase prices even more than they already have, because they're going to kick 30 some million customers off of health insurance, increasing risk and liability.

Look at this asshole. Nice suit, glasses and taking on national tv but, "Boo hoo goyim I can't afford my beach house in California if I have to pay!!!" Get fucked, people die!

Kicking off freeloaders, land whales that need 50 pills a day to sit in their lazy-boy stuffing full turkeys in their face each meal, and useless old people isn't going to increase the cost.

yep exactly. people get so emotional and stupid about this they think lack of insurance means lack of healthcare. the kid is going to get treatment. this fucking guy is actually just bitching that it's going to cost him more than he would like to pay

and this is the argument almost 100% of the time.

That's where you're wrong.

It has been cited multiple times that ~18 million of those people are healthy people forced to buy insurance, like you, for example.

The costs are even going to go up more just because less healthy people will be subsidizing unhealthy people.

Basically it's telling everyone who is sick in this country, and there are over 140 million who are sick, to just go die. Or bankrupt themselves into poverty.

Because in America, you work hard to become bankrupt.

All of you are probably young and think you will be healthy forever. When you do get sick and it ruins your entire life when in other countries it wouldn't maybe then you will realize the problem with our system.

Yeah. I want Fascism, k thanks.

Our healthcare system is shit, but I'm not becoming a liberal over it.

until you get sick and can afford to get treatment / your insurance kicks you off because they can.

i am hesitant to let the cat out of the bag on this one, but declaring bankruptcy is actually very very comfy and easy to rebound from. it doesn't ruin your entire life, you god damned drama queen. far from it really.

The affordable healthcare act was a way to essentially unionize and fight back against the corruption of the system in place. Why is pol against this? I thought you hated "Jews"?. It was a way to break up the monopoly. Guess you guys missed that.

Still not going to become a liberal over it.

Yes it does ruin your life.

My parents filed for bankruptcy because my brother got a bad kidney infection and almost died

They had to declare bankruptcy and sell the house to pay the hospital bill.

25+ years later, they can't own anything and will have absolutely 0 to their name when they die.

Jewed.

You can't ethically force someone to buy a product.

Except insurance can't kick you off for getting sick and hasn't been able to for decades.

we had a perfect system until you retards elected the nigger

>25+ years later, they can't own anything
Liar.

But that's the thing, you're not buying a product.

It's something that you will need in the future. So you will be benefiting from it as well.

It's the same reason why we subsidize corporations, because somewhere along the line you will need a job or you will need a good they have.

You can't make this argument while also faithfully paying taxes. You are more than welcome to move to a less stringent country if you wish.

You have been brain washed into fearing words. So much so that you will engage in detrimental behavior. Insurance is the whitest thing you can do.It's essentially delayed gratification, pay now be taken care of later. The problem is insurance companies are charging too much/engaging in unfair practices. Rather than be a liberal you choose to remain a nigger getting bent over by Jew insurers.

It is a product, all insurance is. You're arguing women can't live without tampons right now.

When you declare that you have no money, the government still expects you to pay taxes.

When you can't pay taxes, anything you own becomes government property.

You don't know anything of what you're talking about.

Like I said, if you don't like it, you can move to a country more in line with your beliefs.

An Eugenics program like China's solves the problem, that kid should not have been born at all.

Your parents sound like fucking retards who didn't pay their taxes to me. Bankruptcy doesn't ruin your life if you don't manage your finances like a nigger.

you are the only nigger here, nigger

everything you write is a lie. your parents dont own anything because they're lazy broke ass niggers

how do you manage your finances when you declare that you have no money?

Seriously, you don't know what you're talking about.

"YES GOY GIVE THE GOVERNMENT POWER OVER YOU!!!" - Totally not a Communist Jew

Why not copy a system from a Western Europe country. Anything seems better than what America has now.

Yeah, like where faggot? If your parents want to not pay taxes they can go somewhere else too and take their faggot kid with them.

>I deserve the right to force you to pay for my healthcare
Yeah ok

Like I said, it's hard to pay $60,000 when you have $0

Also, not my problem. You're the one that's complaining about paying for shit.

Oh Fox News told me if I want to pay reasonable prices for service and not whatever the supplier demand I'm a liberal. Well guess I'll continue to make insurance companies rich while I can't afford to get sick. Thanks guys for saving me from liberals.

you're right anything is better than obamacare

>US of A
>a democracy
Republicuck education

There's lots of places you don't need a car.
They're called cities.
I wouldn't expect rural and suburban retards to understand.

How many white people have been killed, robbed, raped and had their property destroyed as a direct consequence of liberals refusing to deport illegals?
Fuck off with this weak shit. No more tax dollars going to niggers, spics, corporations and entitled boomers, and then maybe we can talk about voluntary single payer.

Declaring bankrupty is not the same thing as declaring you "have no money." In what world would you get your Chapter 7 granted and then sell the house to pay for your cleared debt?

If the judge decided your family DID have the balance sheet to pay debts, then you guys fucked up.

Seriously, your parents fucked up and either had a lawyer that fleeced them, or didn't read what they were signing. You're "munchin foreclosed on little old ladies" tier. If they had no money or income, how can they be taxed unless they owed back taxes?

You aren't forced to have car insurance if you don't have a car. Also there aren't laws forcing me to cover the gaps for people who can't afford their car insurance due to their wreckless driving.

Do you enjoy having a healthcare system that forces you to pay for a 400 lb landwhale's leg amputation?

Survival of the fittest. Your shitty genetics can go die out.

>my pawents are bankrupt and can't own anything
>you're the one botching about costs
Sounds like you are, my complaint was the unethical behavior of forcing someone to buy a product. I wouldn't care if it was one cent.

This was before there were financial protections on hospital debt.

My parents owed $500,000+ on hospital bills due to my brother getting sick.

They had to put up the house as collateral because my brother couldn't get the treatment he needed. They then lost the house and lost all their money (literally all of it due to hospital bills) and had to file for bankruptcy.

>$60,000
Get fucking jobs you lazy assholes.
I have 2 jobs one to pay my bills and my second to pay for my college tuition. Yet two people who owned a house and had a family can't make 60k. You're a fucking liar or your family is a bunch of pathetic lazy assholes. My body aches and my head hurts but your lazy ass parents DESERVE my money? I hope you get a kidney infection too.

So would you like it if your state also forced you to pay the premiums for people who can't afford car insurance? You know, cause if more people are covered your cost will go down right? Even though you're the one paying for all the freeloaders.

Your brother should have died with his shitty genetics.

>2017
>believing in the "democracy"
>biased media, uncontrollable military-industrial complex, worldwide propaganda of multiculturalism, racial extremism and sexual degeneracy
>this is actual Liberalism lmao
Yeah, and then you get mad because people think Americans are retards.

>hand all power to the insurance companies, who wrecked healthcare affordability in the first place, to allow them to jack prices SKY FUCKING HIGH since they know the government will force everyone to buy the product

It creates a monopoly. Remember, lefties are against allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines.

When you owe $60,000 in taxes that is usually ~20-30% of your income.

You seem to be too retarded to even understand how taxes work, so I won't waste my time explaining anything to you.

OH, the truth is revealed! They didn't file chapter 7, they stupidly used their primary residence as collateral for a loan and were forced to give up the collateral, THEY AGREED TO, when they didn't pay the loan.

...

When you make 60k you pay 20-30% in taxes you dumb fuck. They didn't pay their debts or taxes and you're mad at people who want to lower them.

Exactly. And you're here arguing that hospitals and insurance companies should have the freedom to do that to anyone they wish, using people's children as bargaining chips.

And you complain about the ethical implications of forcing someone to buy a product.

Only thing I can think of is that you guys filed for Chapter 13 and were over the unsecured debt cap, that would mean your bankruptcy lawyer is actually the cause if the fuck up.

They aren't denied care Ahmed.

No one forced your parents to use their primary residence as collateral for a loan likely worth far more than the house dipshit.

Wow your anecdotal story really BTFO me. I guess I should feel sorry and instead of your family covering taking care of their own health needs I should be forced to pay for your brother's outrageously expensive healthcare bills.

But just so it's fair, will you pay for my $500,000 bill too? I guess you'll still be bankrupt but at least we'll both be bankrupt because of other people's health problems instead of our own and that sounds more fair.

In the great state of NH car insurance is not mandatory. But you can purchase 'insurance against uninsured motorists' if you'd like.

>come home white man

>They didn't pay their debts or taxes

Can you read? The amount of debt and taxes they owed was many times greater than the amount of money and assets they had.

I'll ask you a third time, how does someone pay $60,000 when they have $0?

I get 21% of my income taking out. Also you're saying, Taxes are gonna be too high so I'll just not work )))): That's just digging your financial grave deeper. You're so fucking retarded I hope your bloodline stops because "Food is too expensive"

ITS A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC YOU FUCKING TWAT
COMMIES DIE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

If Obamacare is so great, why are leftists now pushing for Single Payer?

>cars are optional

My ass.

Kids were able to be on their parents plan long before the Obamacare/ACA. I don't know where that myth comes from.

See, here is where you are being delusional. You ASSUME that when healthcare is 'free" that those with diseases that are expensive will be treated. Jokes on you. With single payer "dad" up there will be told, "Your kid is fucked, say good bye." And it will be illegal to treat the kid because THAT IS WHAT SINGLE APYER MEANS, you dumb fucks. So even if dad could afford to pawn everything and pay it would be a crime.

You stupid fucks are being fed such a line of shit and are eating it like it was caviar.

>But just so it's fair, will you pay for my $500,000 bill too?

Yes. But we won't be bankrupt because that $500,000 equates to only a few cents spread over hundreds of millions of people.

You don't seem to understand the concept of insurance.

He is absolutely right, however the solution lefties are proposing are even further from civilized behavior than ignoring the ill.
The most important matter at hand are not the actions themselves, but the goals and motives behind those actions. From what I understand they are aiming to make government even larger and powerful by creating extremely dependent population. And if you believe US government wants to use that power for good of humanity as a whole, you live in the fucking fairy tale.

Whatever your perception of our healthcare system is, it's false. No one goes without care. I have more than 30 patients that are admitted to the hospital probably every 2-3 weeks because they refuse to move in to a long term care facility. None of them work. They will all drain millions from the system over the course of their lives. And they are never refused care.

Tomi Lahren is an airhead. She's only trotted out because she makes conservatives look dumb

I'm not assuming healthcare is free.

The fact is that our 'superior' private system costs more and has worse outcomes than far 'inferior' healthcare systems that are socialized and nationalized.

You're the one being fed a line of shit, assuming the other side doesn't understand the concept of a service or a product.

No. It was only up to 18 and after that it was dependent on the company. ACA made it up to 26.

And you don't seem to understand gummint.

Yes because only one person needs 500k for medical bills and not millions of others who are sick or injured. You live in a bubble thinking only your family matters and you get mad when people tell you to fuck off. Its funny!

Whoever that user is with the brother that got saved by privatized health care, your brother would have gotten death paneled like Charlie Gard if we didnt have this system.

Your brother is, I assume, alive and your parents had opportunities to correctly use bankruptcy laws to reset their debt. Why would you want any other system?

Because he's a selfish cunt who would rather complain than work.

I watched an illegal alien die in the ICU from AIDS and it took 6 weeks. 6 weeks on a vent. At least $500,000. Who paid? THIS is why healthcare is expensive, at least, in part. Send illegals home, no more chain migration, no more born here = citizenship. Healthcare costs would go down 10% immediately.

this

im fine seeing americans die if it means my tax dollars aren't stolen from me to pay for WEWUZGIBDSMEDATS DRUNPFFPPPP OOGABOOGA

"Worse" outcomes in part due to demographic differences, and because we continue to treat patients who would otherwise be deemed terminally ill pushed down the path of palliative care.

Costs more due to the significant number of individuals paying zero dollars for services rendered, and the below cost reimbursement rates of those who use Medicaid.

Also, where do you think illegals get their care? They certainly aren't paying for it. You and I are. As a hospital director I can tell you I've seen dozens of patients without citizenship soaking up resources in ICUs LTACHs and nursing homes.

"Better outcomes". Let's remove the treatment we provide for free for folks like the illegal AIDS I mentioned. If we are gonna play science let's play REAL science not libtards propaganda.

They don't owe anything now, it's just that the whole ordeal sucked what little wealth they had from them

Now they don't have the money to buy a house and all they live on is social security.

Under other systems, they wouldn't be financially raped by the hospitals. Kidney infections and kidney failure are not supreme high medical technology-demanding ailments.

It's the fact that he had to be in the ICU for weeks on life support. Can you give me any proof of someone in one of the more socialized countries being denied ICU treatment or life support?

and these people just banged up Martin Shkreli

Hello fellow RT. I'm 100% in agreement. See

Not an RT, retired doctor. But thanks for the compliment.

75% of America is Obese or Overweight. We get to pay for 225,000,000 people's heart attacks, strokes, insulin, and knee surgeries. You think those pennies will start to add up at some point?

Btw the drug companies know that people like you don't give a shit about the actual cost, you just want to put productive people on the hook for your healthcare. You're the reason Tylenol costs $50 a pill in the hospital. They'll keep jacking up the rates on people who can't afford it because they know they'll get paid by someone who can.

I love how these libtards who don't know shit about healthcare come in and dramatically reveal what morons they are go running for the weeds when people who actually know something about healthcare show up and bust their ass.

Everything you said has a very little impact on the cost of care in this country.

Uninsured people using hospitals as primary care centers

it is illegal to acquire drugs from other countries, therefore all the drugs in the US have to be made here. Epipen in Canada = $200, US = $600
>ya but the jews subsdize it!
with your money

Capitalism and capitalistic thought in the food industry has destroyed our health. We mechanically separate meat because it can be used as filler in real meat and thus make meat sellers more profit, despite it causing cancer and other ailments, for example.

Profit > health

>They'll keep jacking up the rates on people who can't afford it because they know they'll get paid by someone who can.

So the solution is to give them more freedom in doing this and not enact laws so that they cannot do this, or subsidize everyone so that everyone can 'pay' for it so they have no reason to jack up the price.

You seem to be arguing for my point, to be honest.

>democracy meme