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Hiel.
Nationalism can work without socialism.
Good morning comrades, from the Western Hemisphere.
>idb4 the soviets= jews
let me debunk that for you.
first lets start with.
>muh yagoda
>muh trotsky
yagoda was exicuted during the great purge and trotsky was killed with an icepick a direct assasination order by stalin himself.
here to elaborate more.
Like many Soviet NKVD officers who conducted political repression, Yagoda himself became ultimately a victim of the Purge. He was demoted from the directorship of the NKVD in favor of Nikolai Yezhov in 1936 and arrested in 1937. Charged with the crimes of wrecking, espionage, Trotskyism and conspiracy, Yagoda was a defendant at the Trial of the Twenty-One, the last of the major Soviet show trials of the 1930s. Following his confession at the trial, Yagoda was found guilty and shot.
you have lost it Sup Forums..let it go.
You can only exist inside the virtual box.
Let it go.
well off to a excellent start
During the night of 12–13 August 1952, remembered as the Night of the Murdered Poets thirteen of the most prominent jew writers of the Soviet Union were executed at the orders of Stalin. Among the kikes were (((Peretz Markish))) (((David Bergelson))) and ((((Itzik Fefer))).
the night of the murdered poets was an execution of thirteen Soviet Jews in the Lubyanka Prison in Moscow, Soviet Union on August 12, 1952. The arrests were first made in September 1948 and June 1949. All defendants were accused of espionage and treason (and you know how that ends in the soviet union). After their arrests, they were tortured, beaten, and isolated for three years before being formally charged. There were five jewish writers among these defendants, all of whom were a part of the ((((Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee))).
after the war Stalin began a new purge with repressing his wartime allies, the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee ironic huh? In January 1948, Solomon Mikhoels was assassinated on Stalin's personal orders in Minsk. His murder was disguised as a hit-and-run car accident.
Solomon Mikhoels was a Soviet Jewish actor and the artistic director of the Moscow State Jewish Theater. Mikhoels served as the chairman of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee during World War II.
and i have tons of more examples.
yeah sure do you even know what the BDM is?
why do you faggots never explain how the system worked?
>economy
>policies
Marx's socialism =\= Hitler's socialism
>Nationalism can work without socialism.
True socialism is RACIAL nationalism, because it's PRO-SOCIAL. Marxism isn't the only kind of socialism, lurk moar.
for example strengt through joy?
was a large state-operated leisure organization in Nazi Germany. It was a part of the German Labour Front (Deutsche Arbeitsfront, DAF), the national German labour organization at that time. Set up as a tool to promote the advantages of National Socialism to the people, it soon became the world's largest tourism operator of the 1930s.
>Marxism isn't the only kind of socialism,.
>what is ancom
>what is marxist leninism
>what is just plain standard an socialism
>what is an syndicalism
>what is strasserism
how fucking dumb are you pal? have you been watching too much goebbels propaganda?
There is cultural nationalism too.
And there's civic nationalism too, but these things not true socialism. National socialism is true socialism.
So many Jewish lies to debunk, so little time.
>. National socialism is true socialism.
Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production.
the people in natdoc germany had no control over the means of production.
hitler also banned ALL workers unions.
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Hitler vs The Rothschild
>Socialism is a range of economic and social systems
THe word is USED for a range of different and often contradictory theories. From a Natsoc perspective, the ONLY TRUE SOCIALISM is racial nationalism, ie, "the common wheal" of traditional Germanic societies going back thousands of years.
>the people in natdoc germany had no control over the means of production.
Only the capitalists did, as it should be.
>hitler also banned ALL workers unions.
Good.
Hitler's message to the New World Order:
>Good.
workers unions who fought agianst child labour and for workers rights in the 1920's are bad?
pal how fucking dum are you?
>Only the capitalists did, as it should be.
porky does not care about race nor culture he cares only for PROFIT. also workers rights is something that is crucial otherwise whe're no better of than feudalism.
libertarian using the term porky? Hmmmm
Hitler on why multiculturalism will fail:
>racial nationalism
we will see how useful that racial nationalism is when gene modding and automation becomes a thing the ideas of the NADAP are outdated as new tech will make eugenics obsolete.
also ask your self what will you do when robo chad job cucks you?
>workers unions who fought agianst child labour and for workers rights in the 1920's are bad?
The same unions controlled by organized crime or communist subversives? Better to ban them all and let the state serve their function. The NSDAP did so ten times better, with more efficiency. The state can simply intervene where needed between labor and capital, instead of having strikes and bargianing for months or years while the economy collapses.
>porky does not care
>lolberg flag
Hi Leftypol.
>gene modding and automation
Will result in the permanent death of the proletariat, how does that make you feel? You look forward to the satanic carnival of Jewish globalism?
>libertarian using the term porky? Hmmmm
are
are bankers and fait currency not the sign of porky?
do you have any cleu what problems the petrodollar caused?
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are you for company's like the beers having a monopoly in diamonds?
announcing reports
how new are you?
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>winners aren't losers
>maga
can't join our team till you win at something.
Enjoy your b& for false reporting and announcing it. Generals always roll once they hit the bump limit.
>Will result in the permanent death of the proletariat, how does that make you feel? You look forward to the satanic carnival of Jewish globalism?
and who will cause it? do you honestly think that a business will not take robo chad over your lazy ass?
also CRISPR is being developed by the chinks.
Are you a libertarian or a left libertarian or something?
>The state can simply intervene where needed between labor and capital,
the state and businesses serve each others intrests not the other way around.
the state has no intrest in the problems of the proles and it's own survival.
>The same unions controlled by organized crime or communist subversives?
communist=bad because the put a stop to child labour.
When i was a kid i had a cat that would come waltzing into my room when i was sad and jump on the bed meowing and start smooching me. I annoyed the shit out of him too, biting on his ears and pulling his tail all the time but he never attacked me and we had a bond better than i have had with most humans since. He used to wait for me every day after school on the front porch (no it wasn't to get inside there was a cat door) and I'd come running up the steps to be greeted with a sweet meow. As i grew older i became a selfish prick and ignored him more often, eventually i moved out and left him with my mum because i was flatting. He got sick and passed away after having practically been emotionally abandoned and i didn't even cry, i still hate myself for that.
>and it's own survival.
"only"
>National Socialism in 2017
>do you honestly think that a business will not take robo chad over your lazy ass
That's MY argument here, genius. They'll take robo chads over all of us, and if you think they'll keep us all on life support while we contribute nothing to the economy, or that they'll give "free genetic augmentation" like "Obamacare meets Gattica" you're naive as fuck. You're looking forward to hell on Earth, to the ultimate slavery.
>the state and businesses serve each others intrests
Labor is in the interest of both the state and business under Natsoc, as it was historically. Labor has never fared better in either the Liberal capitalist west, or the Communist nations of the East as under Natsoc. It resolved the kinds of dialectical forces Marx wrung his hands over.
i see who controles the little banking scheme and who controls the corporations who fuck you in the ass.
for example the rapefugee crisis. how was it caused let me explain the opuim wars the afgan soviet war the us funding rebels the pipline deal the overtrowing of gaddafi all to preserve the petrodollar and corprate intrest.
Happy circlejerking BTW, you will totally achieve something with this.
>That's MY argument here, genius. They'll take robo chads over all of us, and if you think they'll keep us all on life support while we contribute nothing to the economy, or that they'll give "free genetic augmentation" like "Obamacare meets Gattica" you're naive as fuck. You're looking forward to hell on Earth, to the ultimate slavery.
and this is inevitable automation is a tech thats coming rapidly. what do you suggest we do to stop this from becoming a blade runner dystopia?
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>Labor is in the interest of both the state and business under Natsoc,
about that let me explain how the natsoc economy worked and got out of the weimar inflation.
this is going to be quite long so prepare your self.
At the core of the ‘German economic miracle’, as Hitler described it, were work programs and re-armament. The NSDAP initiated massive spending programs to stimulate the economy, generate jobs and encourage economic growth. In July 1934 the government formed the Reichsarbeitsdienst (the RAD, or ‘National Labour Service’). The RAD attacked unemployment by conscripting out-of-work Germans into vast work teams. RAD workers were given an armband, a shovel and a bicycle, then sent to wherever public works, construction, clearance or agricultural labour were needed. One of the earliest RAD programs was the construction of massive autobahns: hundreds of miles of freeway connecting Germany’s major cities. These autobahns had a positive effect on the German car industry, which also flourished from the mid-1930s. In 1937 Hitler established Volkswagen, a state-sponsored company to produce cheap cars for German families.
There were large public works programs, such as construction, autobahns, to reduce unemployment.
>automation is inevitable
So is extinction. What's not inevitable is that we go extinct from automation and genetic engineering in the hands of the wrong predatory paradigm. If we can't straighten out our values socially, we'll become the plaything of demonic forces.
>inb4 muh MEFO fraud
>inb4 removed women and jews and cheated at eliminating unemployment
>inb4 endless war to service debt
Spare us the bolerplate, we've argued this with you and others like you before.
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German military expenditure in the second-half of the 1930’s greatly outstripped the UK’s military expenditure. This all fitted in with the Four-Year Plan introduced in September 1936, wherebyNazi Germany’s economy was totally oriented around boosting the three spheres of the military – army, air force and navy. The UK only matched Germany’s military expenditure in 1939.
Nazi Germany’s military expenditure as a percentage of GDP:
1935: 8% (UK 2% of nation’s GDP)
1936: 13% (UK 5% of nation’s GDP)
1937: 13% (UK 7% of nation’s GDP)
1938: 17% (UK 8% of nation’s GDP)
1939: 23% (UK 22% of nation’s GDP)
1940: 38% (UK 53% of nation’s GDP)
1941: 47% (UK 60% of nation’s GDP)
1942: 55% (UK 64% of nation’s GDP)
1943: 61% (UK 63% of nation’s GDP)
military expenditure was unsustainable by the way it stood at more that 10 GDP and exceeded economic growt the only way it would not collapse on it self was if the did what it was designed to do in the first place GO TO WAR.
>There were large public works programs, such as construction, autobahns, to reduce unemployment.
We know dude.
t. one of the few 50+ posts by this IDtards
>removed women and jews and cheated at eliminating unemployment
thats treu.
soon after the NSDAP got into power a legislation was signed that would reduce male unemployment. Young couples intending to get married could apply in advance for the interest-free loan of up to 1,000 Reichsmarks provided that the prospective wife had been in employment for at least six months in the two years up to the passing of the law. Importantly, she had to give up her job by the time of the wedding and undertake not to enter the labour market again until the loan was paid off, unless her husband lost his job in the meantime. To stimulate production the loans were issued not in cash but in the form of vouchers for furniture and household equipment. By the end of 1934, around 360,000 women had given up work in order to get married and to have children.
Friendly reminder that National Socialism economics relies on private ownership.
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Aww, I seem to have hurt the little echochamberling feelings, they shoad my posts. So cute.
yeah sure what ever ill post some rare pics i scanned from books for you to drool over is that fine too?
also the're economy was a rope that was going to snap the're neck pal don't forget the weimar fall-out haunted them till 1945.
This was a powerful video. One of the best i've seen about the jew menace.
>military expenditure was unsustainable by the way it stood at more that 10 GDP
Compared to the US at 60+%? Of course it wasn't sustainable, nations fight until they break economically or materially.
> it was designed to do in the first place GO TO WAR
No lol going to war actually harmed GDP:
>As you can see from pic related their debt as a % of GDP was declining all up to 1939 -- there was no "debt driving them to war", in fact, the opposite.
inb4 shill reply:
>You can have a high GDP and a high national debt at the same time. They are two separate things.
Again, debt as a percent of GDP is significant, especially in a Keynsean framework: if GDP grows such that debt is a tiny percentage, the debt is meaningless. Either way, it can't be a motive for war while the GDP is growing, and the debt as percent of GDP is low / shrinking. This is because deficit spending is positively correlated with GDP. Its a purely theoretical / speculative argument that their economy would have collapsed without war spending, since there's no empirical data (the country was destroyed).
>inb4 "German war machine required constant war"
Their GDP was growing regardless of whether they were actually at war or not, because a military industrial complex (military spending) doesn't require actual war. The US and many other nations today take advantage of this, and spend of their military despite not "being at war".
>inb4 "German military spending was unsustainable"
>German GDP in Billions of Dollars:
>1938 - 351
>1939 - 384
>1940 - 387
>1941 - 412
>1942 - 417
>1943 - 426
>1944 - 437
>1945 - 310
As far as millitary spending, Germany barely broke the US threshold of 40% of GDP, the entire duration of the war, and spent LESS THAN THEIR RIVALS in preparation building up to war as CHART 9 you quoted shows.
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>and this is inevitable automation is a tech thats coming rapidly. what do you suggest we do to stop this from becoming a blade runner dystopia?
I prefer the idea of the state managing automation and transhumanism stuff. I see the economics of communism not it's social polices being an inevitability with automation. But I'm just a certain poster from last thread and i have no wish to start that again since I'm not a shill and I like /nsg/ and i just like rarely arguing some of my points.
explain the rope part i disagree with it if it's what i'm thinking your thinking of nazi economic policies
>So is extinction. What's not inevitable is that we go extinct from automation and genetic engineering in the hands of the wrong predatory paradigm. If we can't straighten out our values socially, we'll become the plaything of demonic forces.
the thing is that these technology's are going to happen wether we like it or not.
do you have the vid about the international clique? it got shoahad of you tube i think i like that vid a lot.
>they removed women and jews and cheated at eliminating unemployment
Jews were less than 1% of the population of Germany at 500,000, so their removal from the labor force was irrelevant. Women's participation only dropped by 10% the entire duration of the war (pic related), and rose slightly toward the end as more men were sent to the Eastern front. Also an irrelevant factor in achieving total unemployment. Its' funny a leftist will argue this, since its Austrian School boilerpate.
But on a serious note, I started hating it when someone brings up Hitler and NatSoc again because of the people who cling to those two things and claim to represent them. You are offputting as hell to the outsider, just like neo-nazis. I'm glad I found out about you, otherwise i would still probably be spouting the same crap that you do.
>these technology's are going to happen wether we like it or not
Did Tesla's technology happen whether we liked it or not? No, they picked and chose which of his works were allowed. Free energy isn't desired, so it doesn't happen.
god fucking dammit i did not come here to argeu about economics but sure ill bite.
>No lol going to war actually harmed GDP:
i they did not go to war the're system would collapse if you have such a large military you use it.
>500,000, so their removal from the labor force was irrelevant.
still note worthy.
Save your children from degeneracy. Convert to NatSoc and move to thhe homeland.
There is no fleeing to a promised homeland. All our white homelands are under assault now.
>Free energy isn't desired
free energy doesn't exist it voilates the laws of thermo dynamics.
also ai and robotics are ever expanding the only way to stop automation is to stop ai advancement and to stop building phones and computers sicne the also coun't as automation.
then why do you still have the flag of the NSDAP?
>i they did not go to war the're system would collapse
Pick your boilerplate shill argument here: would it collapse from "their increasing debts", or from their Military Industrial complex? As you can see, the US continued to grow its MIC after the war, and this benefited their economy -- not collapse it.
>500,000 people out of 67 million is relevant
Dust on a flea's dick.
>free energy voilates the laws of thermo dynamics.
Free as in "gratis" lol, free doesn't violate the laws of thermodynamics is violates the Iron law of the Petrodollar
>20 posters
>1 guy is responsible for more than a 3rd of the posts so far
>nothing but 'look at my link' 'no educate yourself!' and other sophistry
>not even talking about the good points of natsoc or trying to convert anyone
great thread
Because I still do agree with most of the 25 points, I just hate the wannabe adherents who circlejerk about being nazis all day, every day.
>All our white homelands are under assault now.
by ((who))? ;)
it's quite complicated and the rabbit hole runs deep.
>Free as in "gratis" lol, free doesn't violate the laws of thermodynamics is violates the Iron law of the Petrodollar
you mean energy that was conjured out of nothing? you can't have a 100 percent efficiënt engine.
Welcome to every /nsg/ ever.
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>Because I still do agree with most of the 25 points, I just hate the wannabe adherents who circlejerk about being nazis all day, every day.
alright then do you even speak german?
most natsoc posters i see are LARPers you don't often see a real one especially in real life.
,000 people out of 67 million is relevant
>Dust on a flea's dick.
still it's something.
>all day, every day
Its usually a once a day thread
>you mean energy that was conjured out of nothing?
I mean "free of cost", not "came from nothing". It was meant tongue in cheek, remember I mentioned Tesla? His tech didn't fail to catch on because it was useless -- it was far beyond its time.
Jews and their allies + servants who push immigration to destroy whites while making a nice profit
alright we get it
larp larp larp. Now post your pages worth of shill material or fuck off.
>still it's something.
Irrelevant to the unemployment rate. Even if 100% of the Jews were unemployed then simply "removed from the counting" it wouldn't budge the figure by the 1%.
>it was far beyond its time.
tesla died because nobody wanted to fund him he also died poor and miserably as far as i remember.
i will agree tho he was way ahead of his time.
>Jews and their allies + servants who push immigration to destroy whites while making a nice profit
no it started in the 1900's with the arab revolt in ww1 and the balour declarment.
>Irrelevant to the unemployment rate. Even if 100% of the Jews were unemployed then simply "removed from the counting" it wouldn't budge the figure by the 1%
fine its alright.
It's been going on longer then that
>tesla died because nobody wanted to fund him
Doesn't matter, his competitors still worked to shut his inventions out of circulation, to get laws passed shutting down his research, bankrupting him. Then the CIA gathered his research and destroyed or archived it. He was supressed, because technology CAN ACTUALLY BE SUPRESSED. It's not "inevitable" as you said. Suicide isn't invetiable, that's a premise of natural selection, which I presume you believe exists.
The likes of you are the reason why I cringe everytime I hear anything about national socialism and do my best to distance myself from it.
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so whe're do i begin?
the afhan soviet war the us funded rebels muhhadjeen fighters to fight agianst the soviets bin laden was one.
it has been going on as far as the romans sacked the 2 temple in judea but it started to pick up agian in the 1900's.
>I cringe everytime I hear anything about national socialism and do my best to distance myself from it
Meanwhile you kvetch in every /nsg/ and post that cringe "anti nazi general" where you kvetch some more that people you disagree with exist. Well done faggot.
>that's a premise of natural selection, which I presume you believe exists.
yeah of coarse no reason to deny that but that reases a question.
the NSDAP believed in natural selection and survival of the fittest aren't the a failure by the're own standerds?
>aren't the a failure by the're own standerds?
How so?
imagine being so angry you force yourself to post on online forums and create daily threads
gaddafi was killed to protect the ((petrodollar))) he even said so that if he was killed europe would turn black.
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There
>everyone who disagrees is a jew/leftist/civic cuck or whatever
or
>everyone who disagrees and calls your your bullshit is the same person
All you want is to be edgy and look for a fight
This video is about you youtube.com
>the NSDAP believed in natural selection and survival of the fittest aren't the a failure by the're own standerds?
If a lion gets killed by 30 dogs the dogs aren't superior. It took practically the entire world fully mobilized to take down a few countries the size of a couple of us states
>How so?
failure to stop the soviets from taking half of europe destruction of nationalism and the destruction of your own system by a fitter foe.
also hitler caused his own down fall with some horrid mistakes and shit allies like (italy).
He seems to think he can nag us all into not existing in his hugbox.
But why are you so mad?
>It took practically the entire world fully mobilized to take down a few countries the size of a couple of us states
the us got in the war after pearl harbor hitler wanted to avoid a war with the us because he knew they would push his shit in.
also the nations allied in stages.
>invasion of poland=league of nations britian and france to declare war.
france got BLITZED. and britian and germany whe're to only ones fighting for quite some time.
then barbossa happened and the soviets joined.
america alone with it's might could have crushed germany in a war of attrition the germans had problems with oil and resources.
I am? I am annoyed with you for turning away people who are interested, for making us look bad, and frankly for saboating the very thing you claim to represent. Have you ever thought about what impression you give off? It is not good in any way.
I came here to troll you and shitpost, but now I'm just sad. Again.
>failure to stop the soviets from taking half of europe
Where are the Soviets now? They all seem to be ethno-nationalists with growing right wing movements.
>the destruction of your own system by a fitter foe
Conspircuously by "less fit" foes relying on superior numbers, which is itself of fitness. That being said, how many Natsocs were there in the world in 1939? How many are there today -- multiples more than 1939, right? 100 years of supression to erase us from existence, and all we've done is grow our numbers. Tomorrow belongs to us, amirite?
>hitler caused his own down fall with some horrid mistakes and shit allies like (italy).
True. He still came so close to winning, despite all those odds, that every single one of his enemies prepared their retreats and surrender plans. Stalin even came within two hours of fleeing Moscow, having evacuated his entire government East. Suffering is the key to evolution. We still live, and grow. So, losing is a matter of the timeline you choose.
>I am annoyed with you for turning away people who are interested, for making us look bad, and frankly for saboating the very thing you claim to represent
Tell us what we're doing wrong.