Was the Fall of Rome the greatest tragedy in the history of mankind?

Was the Fall of Rome the greatest tragedy in the history of mankind?

Hold onto your tighty whiteys... it's our turn... the precession of the equinox clock is about to strike 12. Jesus was she of Pisces, the earth cycle is moving into age of Aquarius. Major shifts in human rule. Good news is we are going uphill on cycle. So it supposedly will get better.

It was a bitter sweet end to a bitter sweet frenemy.

>greatest tragedy in the history of mankind
YOU FORGOT THE SIX GORILLION

French revolution

No, although it was a tragedy for the Romans, but who gives a fuck about them?

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I'd say the US joining WW2

Although, I did read a book that was making a case that Aeneas and his followers were really Edomites and not Trojans.

No, the fall of the Third Reich was the greatest tragedy in the history of mankind.

Weren't you responsible somehow for the decline of Rome?

Rome got decadent and degenerate, which was the tragedy, not the resulting fall.

All the progress and knowledge in the world can't compensate for a society that can't hold its people and institutions together.

Us?!
Noooo.....
Why would we ever do a thing like that?

I'd put it 2nd after the death of Chris Farley.

I'd say that the burning of the library of alexandria was a bit worse...

yes

Rome never fell, it just moved and changed its name.

How much did it send us back in terms of progress?

Fall of Macedonia and the end of ancient philosophy it wouldn’t be revisited until the dark age

at least a million years. they already had space colonisation tech but weren't willing to make the steps necessary due to cultural reasons (e.g. traditional Greek space alien xenophobia)

Well, fuck me. Now I'm gonna spend the rest of the day mourning the alien waifu I'll never obtain.

well you are going to laugh. But apparently satelites have discovered a greek statue on either Mars or Pluto.

>apparently

indeed

Were they statues of Ares or Hades?

>measuring the value of human civilization in "progress"

How do you value human civilization if not in technological and cultural progress?

>Was the Fall of Rome the greatest tragedy in the history of mankind?
Only if you're a Eurocentric shitlord

Because cultural "progress" is misleading. It's become a watchword. Take for instance LGTQP+, it's basically a death cult with bright colors and buzzwords like pride and love. Wherever it goes, it depresses birthrates, creates friction, and drops polled happiness. Then take Islam. Nobody would call it progressive, but their birthrate is incredible and Islam protects it. No abortion, no divorce, women can't be super sluts, men can breed multiple partners, men who don't have partners are actually subject to punishment(everyone on this board would be fucked). Islam has survival mechanics, so I'd technically call that progress since it's a development that maintains the survival of it's people and the ideological framework itself.

>Rome got decadent and degenerate
>Rome was ruled by christians during the decline
Sounds about right

How do you measure cultural progress?

Didn't the middle ages stunt human progress for like 500 years?

>Technological """progress"""
Wew lad. Read Ted Kazinsky.
>Cultural """""""progress"""""""
WEW LAD

Which Rome, and what Fall?

Yes. Easily.
Not in every aspect.

wtf do you mean by cultural progress

the most appealing to 'muh' cuddly brown teddy bears, women, sexual deviants etc.

>judea rebels
>gets btfo so hard the general who stopped you became emporer
>responsible for fall
Jej

No, Rome was degenerate. It was the fall of the Greek States that was the greatest tragedy.

Rome never existed, it was all just advertising for gladiator that got way out of hand.

I would say the burning of the Alexandria library but they're both pretty close.

The decline came down to a number of things.
>economy, the silk trade and the Chinese economy boomed and caused inflation in Rome
>Socio-political, Caracalla had made everyone in the Empire a citizen. Essentially no one was a citizen, and it's ultimately what devalued the Imperium and the legion(less reason to join it). Shit people with shit opinions now had clout and didn't do anything to deserve it.
>military, the legion kept between 150k to 250k near the end. It had to contend with the invasions across the north, and not always military ones.The sheer number of cultures coming in diluted and ruined the social cohesion that being Roman kept safe. The invasions would cause local troubles across the entire north and west, at a time when Rome couldn't afford it socially even though the military was semi-capable at the time. The biggest issue was logistics and reacting quickly enough to fight the raiders before they scurried off to screw over some other town.
>the geographic split between east and west. Geographic splits have been finishing nations off since ever. We're actually in this state here in America, so it's worrying.

It's the hyperjew!!

You know, the jealous pagan Romans burned it, also the Romans destroyed the Piraeus, as they didn't have one in Rome.

All you stupid fucking Americans, haven't a clue what universe you live in.

absolutley

>Pisces to Aquarius
Jesus Christ user check a calendar once

>absolutley
You see what I want you to see, I act how I want you to see me.

WE

fuck off you stupid slut.

I ain't the Pope.

Death of god, we have never really faced anything like this is recorded history.

No, in fact, rome was always kind of degenerate and shitty, It produces some great men and great things, but much like the USA it produced it from a boiling cauldron of greed, lust, vice, murder and exploitation. For every Marcus Aurelius in Rome there were a million slaves and a thousand corrupt politicians, For every Forum built there were a thousand slave markets and slums. Roman culture was degenerate except for it's devotion to duty and ability to introspect. They did, unlike most of their contemporaries, reflect on the costs and fallout of their actions, even if they then did them anyway. The only thing they did which was really truly laudable was the construction and diffusion of physical infrastructure which laid the foundations for the later European golden age and by its simple existence reminded people of greatness and the possibility of civilization by its simple enduring existence. Aside from their physical constructions Rome was damn near blackpilled, most of them didn't give a single solitary fuck about anything besides carnal pleasure and building shit.

The greatest Tragedy of human history was the burning of the Library of Alexandria and the loss of the knowledge therein. That single Event(s)It wasn't burned all at once) set scientific knowledge back more than a thousand years. There was knowledge stored in that library we still have not recovered or conclusively rediscovered. Texts reference phenomenon and observations that we still cannot make sense of because no copies exist and nothing we know today matches the missing puzzle piece described. Ironically in the context of this thread, the library first suffered major damage and loss of knowledge at the hands of the Romans. Then later unironically and totally unsurprisingly it was complete destroyed by the Muslims in 642, just 20 years after the founding of Islam. It took them just 20 years to deal a massive Irreparable blow to human knowledge and civilization.

Rome was already gone before it fell.

lol what the fuck difference does it make who burned it? I can still wish it hadn't happened.

Go dodge trucks on the sidewalk you muslim loving roadkill-to-be.

Yes, but it will be surpassed by the fall of England

>All these people falling for the "burning of Alexandria set us back a thousand years" meme

Gods die all the time. It's a sign of decline. The West is homogeneous in its decline. Some of us have it worse but we're all infected.

We can blame women for that one.

>destruction of a few merchants banks will be a disastrous blow to civilization
lolno. you ll leave nothing worthwhile behind.

Well, I mean in several other areas, such as obtaining a better understanding of the world as well as our universe. Complex architecture, medicine, agriculture, inventive... All those subjects which have improved our life quality.

Now that's what I call shitposting