So when does it become "okay" to just start killing or representatives. I understand Rand's oppositions and (mostly) agree with it; but this duplicitous piece of shit is really asking to be made an example of. The NYT article highlights the leftists fawning over him in the comments - it's like pure propaganda at this point. Goebbels would be proud.
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this guy exercised his 2nd amendment rights and u retards lost your shit
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How's that healthcare cumming along, Trumpcoons?
Not worth a bullet. Cancer will do the job soon enough.
Cry more. I hope McCain lives just long enough to see Trump leave office with nothing accomplished.
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He won't. He's got basically the worst cancer you can have. He won't be alive this time next year.
Thankfully, nobody gives a fuck what your retarded self thinks.
>soap -> ballot > jury > ammo
the four boxes of liberty and the correct order.
You're at number two, the ballot box.
The redress you're searching for is called a "Recall Election."
The citizens of the State of Arizona need to hold a Recall Election to fire their Senator.
You still won't remember that, though, even after being taught about it again. That's likely correlated with you being a dumb fuck commie: you can't remember your civics lessons and you can't figure out how the world works so you think it's reasonable to ask others to work for you under threat of violence not realizing that the elites will put a bullet in your head when you and the rest of the cadre of uneducated morons and brainwashed zombies secure power for them.
You really are the epitome of a dumb fuck.
Sure thing, Cletus.
Name any piece of legislation, ever, in the history of the USA that succeeded that was passed on a partisan basis.
what could trump do legally to fuck his shit up?
like stripping him of all his military accomplishments would be funny
Nothing.
The President isn't a dictator.
>literally drafted a recall petition and amassed thousands of signatures statewide
yeah, it doesn't work, dumbfuck
Possess actual experience in politics, do you? No, I didn't think so. Enjoy your hypothetical grandstanding.
reference the congressional library from Reagan's assuming office to the end of Clinton's run. Plenty of examples. But you are speaking hypothetically due to your limited familiarity, I assume.
>Time to deliver on the Party's core promise from the last 7 years
>Um, did anyone draft an actual plan that wouldn't make things even worse?
>Shit
>Here's an idea, let's pretend we are working hard as shit on dismantling the ACA
>Then lets have JUST enough people say no
>We got two Rino girls who are a possibility and the Meme from Kentucky will do it for the lulz.
>OH SHIT McCain is dying!
>Ok, let's have McCain be the deciding vote, noone can hate a dying war hero
>Vote fails
>John gets to make tearjerker floor speeches
>GOP doesn't have to do any hard, risky work
>Flyover tards can believe their Reps are hard at it
Everybody wins.
I think it's due in part because of the fact that if he didn't have his super government health insurance that pays for anything and everything medical for him, giving him the best doctors, he wouldn't be able to afford his cancer treatments, even with the amount of wealth he has.
As a disingenuous corporate shill, he's earned the right to the best medical treatment available on the planet, completely free, for life.
Nigga why you gotta be so rude dude even asked for help.
This is the thing that gets to me.
These cucks on here defending this shit even when the GOP has admitted that how this bill affects 1/6 of our economy is nothing compared to the political implications. These fucking traitors are more worried about their jobs than the country and are voting as such.
he should be
>this duplicitous piece of shit is really asking to be made an example of.
let AZ know we will boycott their state if they don't vote him out,
Paul Ryan also, fuck cheese
>So when does it become "okay" to just start killing or representatives.
Never, terrorist scum. Go join Antifa or ISIS overseas, if you don't have the courage to be a decent human being.
He has plenty of dough - shares all over the place. He is invested in Larry H. Miller car dealerships, according to Larry's (RIP) son, who bought my condo in San Diego. Omni Hotel building overlooking convention center. Look it up if you poorfags doubt me. He's a piece of shit with his hand in every pot.
McCain is doing Trump a David by saving him from the ramifications of this shitty bill just like last time.
*a favor wtf
> I understand Rand's oppositions and (mostly) agree with it
Rand is a coward. The only times he threatens a no vote is when he won't be the only one.
It's already "ok" to attempt to kill representatives as long as you're a leftist
Brain cancer treatment, especially aggressive brain cancer treatment, costs millions of dollars.
He would bankrupt himself otherwise.
call them up and let them know, you want to get your way or you will vote them out
So you disagree with the founders and drafters of our declaration of independence and constitution...interesting.
I'd give it to the end of this decade.
I have.
But Rob Portman is a gud boi GOP cuck that sucks as much dick as he can because of how irrelevant he is in the Senate. I'm not voting for him again.
that has not been the case and any effort would result in the opposite
the mexicans in the state will keep voting him back in. he gets like 60% of the mexican vote. its why he won so big in 2016. the ranchers and farmers out here love him and tell their mexican workers how great muh friends mccain is.
The politicians are just reflections of how divided everyone is across the spectrum. McCain represents boomercuck neocons quite well if you ask me.
Why do you need other people's approval? If you want to take someone out...take them out
No, it doesn't - unless you are battling over many years with many rounds of treatments. More likely, $250,000 (save for critical care/hospital stay, which he has not had). He lucrative pension plan should cover it.
It is never okay.
You don't like our system?
leave...
you literally are not an american then.
This stupid motherfucker cares more about having a bill which satisfies Socialists than doing what is best for the country, as though bipartisanship with those dedicated to your destruction is a virtue.
And how far Left has Washington DC gone that it can't even pass block-granting of social benefits, which is passed with bipartisan support for welfare in the 90s?
The only way DC can be stopped from dominating every aspect of our lives at this point is a convention of States to amend the Constitution and term limit Congresspeople.
These guys work with each other all year long, when they aren't manning the fund-raiser phones.
They've known all year how these votes would have to go down. All of this is puppet theater to appease the rabble they've fed red-meat lies to for 7 years.
Remember, these guys could pass scores of meaningless "practice" votes in Congress for repeal that counted for nothing.
The GOP knows that the actual solution to Healthcare in the USA is something they themselves have made politically unpalatable to their core supporters.
>pay $250,000
>pay $0
I wonder which one any sane person would pick.
Term limits are like campaign finance reform, everyone is "For" it, but somehow it never manages to come up on the working agenda.
>best for the country
this bill isn't what's best for the country, the GOP even admitted to it.
They're only voting on this for political reasons, not for the good of the country.
This bill is going to rape the country hard. As many as 40,000 people will die a year as a result of this bill.
>life support on repeal
>the hospital gets a check of $0 for their scarcely available services
is that how you think this works?
I doubt Shitstain is not covered for all of his treatment, despite Obamacare.
Won't pass. Never intended to pass.
The bill is just to Show Intention to repeal Obamacare.
>This bill is going to rape the country hard. As many as 40,000 people will die a year as a result of this bill.
t. Bernie Sanders
>40,000 people who are diabetic or riddled with cancer due to their shitty life choices will die this year
so? Make an argument for why I, or any other taxpayer should foot the bill for them?
Oh my god you are fucking stupid
I'm talking about how much fucking money McCain is paying for his treatment, which is fucking nothing because he fucking has Presidential-class socialist healthcare that gives him anything and everything medical for free.
>I've been programmed to view my "political foes" as unintelligent, cartoonishly evil and incompetent figures with no merit.
Good to know it's been super-effective.
you do realize your vague response was open for interpretation...
who is stupid?
>he gets like 60% of the mexican vote
talk to them about the spirit cooking, get that bozo out of there, you must try to succeed
need to get rid of Schumer, Pelosi, Ryan and Mccain, they're the top level, get rid of those bums
Because Healthcare is 1/6 of our economy and it is a multi hundreds of billions of dollar business that the government needs to prop up
Much like the military, except it saves people's lives in another way.
Make an argument for why we should spend $700 billion on our military.
>So when does it become "okay" to just start killing or representatives
Sup Forums is a board of peace
your kind are not welcome here
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No, the rest of us understood him perfectly, moron.
user, I don't think you know how much healthcare costs in this country. Probably why you support the shitty Republican bill.
Cancer treatment requiring surgery (like his) can EASILY be $2M+
the main problem in AZ is that many of the residence are actually absent most the year. They are snowbirds from the East Coast that maintain residency here for tax purposes + god-tier winter weather.
hard to talk to them when they think any other republican wants to ship them back to mexico. if they don't vote for him, they will vote for a democrat. as much as i hate mccain, hes still slightly, again, slightly better than a full fledged democrat.
You are a fucking retard.
Original post.
>I think it's due in part because of the fact that if he didn't have his super government health insurance that pays for anything and everything medical for him, giving him the best doctors, he wouldn't be able to afford his cancer treatments, even with the amount of wealth he has.
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>Brain cancer treatment, especially aggressive brain cancer treatment, costs millions of dollars.
>He would bankrupt himself otherwise.
It's not my fault you're a complete retard with short memory loss.
>Much like the military, except it saves people's lives in another way.
Our military hasn't "saved American lives" in generations.
The "40000 people will die a year as a result of this bill" shit is pure propaganda with no basis in reality. Anyone saying it is just repeating what Bernie Sanders told them. Ironically, these are the very people who view their "political foes" as "unintelligent, cartoonishly evil and incompetent figures with no merit".
Can someone fucking confront this asshole about being a traitorous fuck during the Vietnam war? I don't understand why someone isn't yelling "Songbird John" to his face and calling him a terrorist supporting dotard.
I don't believe in killing people and I agree with a lot of what Rand said as well, but McCain is literally shit and he should be removed from office for health reasons.
>Obamacare is shit
>Still, repealing it will leave millions with no coverage, and not just lazy wankers, but honest, hard working people and people in bad luck
There is no true freedom in being constantly worried about your family's health or getting fucked over by insurance. The mental burden that your system puts on millions of families is incompatible with freedom.
I get that you can never be like Scandinavia, I do. I get that our system only works in a small, relatively homogenous society. But don't tell me your health system makes people free.
It's best to argue with retards by using their own logic against them.
Obviously I'm attempting to exploit this dumb fuck's patriotism.
based on pricing set by....wait for it...the insurance companies. How ever did we survive pre-1979 in regards to healthcare? And how do test-costs keep rising despite more efficient technology? Oh gee, Oh wow...I just don't know, I'm a fucking dumb human with no economic, biological or engineering knowledge...Gee wiz, waddya think?
There's plenty of that on both sides, no denying it, but I don't just dispute figures outright on the basis of their source, unless that source is Glenn Beck-tier. Which Bernie is not.
Until about 15-20 years ago? Literally all of them.
And what is Bernie's source?
Our healthcare costs were much less in 1979
The whole reason why Obamacare was passed was because millions of people were going bankrupt trying to pay for their healthcare.
Yeah, you are a dumb fucking human being for assuming that the situation in 1979 is in any way shape or form identical to our situation in 2017
My father has cancer. My sister is a Physician. My uncle is head of the top hospital in SoCal. Another uncle has written multiple textbooks used by Oncologists and medical students. Another unle is CEO of a well-known research hospital. I know more than you...and probably any person on this board. Benefit of being upper-class.
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Did fox news tell you that, you cuck?
Why don't you fucking look up the information yourself.
You are describing most American politicians there, buddy. From both sides. Tell med Hillary is not cartoonishly evil, or Trump no cartoonishly incompetent. You had a pervert made Weiner caught sending dickpics left and right. Your country is a joke.
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand John McCain. The decisions he makes are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the desisions he makes will go over a typical american's head.
There's also McCain's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance.
The democrats understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of his decisions, to realize that they're not just smart- they say something deep about REPUBLICANS.
As a consequence people who dislike John McCain truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, his decision on voting against healthcare which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as John McCain's genius unfolds itself.
What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a "McCain is our savior" tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
For patients covered by health insurance, the typical cost of brain tumor treatment will include doctor copays, drug copays and coinsurance of 10-50% or more -- most likely reaching the yearly out-of-pocket maximum. Brain tumor treatment typically is covered by health insurance.
For patients not covered by health insurance, the typical cost of brain tumor treatment can range from less than $50,000 for a small benign tumor in an accessible location that can be treated with surgery alone up to $700,000 or more for a malignant tumor that must be treated with some combination of surgery, radiation and chemotherapy. For example, the cost of brain surgery is typically $50,000-$150,000 or more. Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center[1] in New Hampshire charges about $72,500 for brain surgery, including hospital charge and doctor fees, after a 30% uninsured discount. Saint Elizabeth Medical Center[2] in Nebraska charges about $33,600-$78,700, not including doctor fees. And Baptist Memorial Healthcare in Memphis charges almost $50,000 without major complications to almost more than $110,000 with major complications, not including the doctor fees, which can add up to $30,000 or more to the final bill.
Stereotactic radiosurgery, a type of radiation therapy commonly used on brain tumors, typically costs $12,000-$55,000; however, additional treatments sometimes are required for recurring or new tumors, so total costs can easily reach $100,000 or more. The cost of chemotherapy varies widely based on the drug, how it is administered and how many treatments are required -- and costs commonly reach tens of thousands of dollars.
The Brain Tumor Foundation estimates[3] the cost of treating a glioblastoma at more than $450,000 and says costs of treating a brain tumor can reach $700,000 in a lifetime.
You seem to not know a single fucking thing of what you're talking about.
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Long-term study by the New England Journal of Medicine on the effect of medical insurance on death rates.
I'll take that over TheBlaze.
Virtually no major legislation was passed on strictly partisan lines until 2009.
>if he didn't have .gov care he would not be able to afford insurance
do you hear yourself? Do wealthy individuals outside of the government not have health insurance? Can they not afford $350/month for a gold plan (up for $250 before Obamacare)?
>if he didn't have this he would pay out of pocket
is that your argument? make an actual argument based on fact and logical outcome.
Negro as President certainly rustled the jimmies.
>I made this up because I'm 13 and living in my mom's basement
Can you take a step back and use your abnormally small brain to think for a moment?
My point was that he got completely free brain surgery and brain cancer treatment and obviously that is weighing in on his decision to vote no to this bill because he would have had to pay for that shit out of pocket.
Perhaps it wouldn't be a shit ton of money if he had good insurance, but I imagine he would still have to pay a deductible.
God you are so stupid and incapable of critical thought.
I'd like a link with how the New England Journal of Medicine came to the conclusion repealing or substantially modifying the PPACA in this way would increase deaths by 40000 per year.
>people were going bankrupt due to inflated prices set by a protected insurance racket that is non-competitive
The "bankrupt" figure is an absurd argument, as well. So what, you had to declare bankruptcy? But you lived? Okay. How many went bankrupt for treatments for conditions brought upon themselves? Diabetes, cancers, etc?
Hospitals typically forgave debts (rationally) until regulatory costs went up post 1970s. So what is the real problem?
> (OP)
>>this duplicitous piece of shit is really asking to be made an example of.
>let AZ know we will boycott their state if they don't vote him out,
>AZ got boycotted for passing a law to arrest illegals and the left subsequently shit themselves.
>Mfw nothing happened.
Do your worst basement dweller!
This sounds more reasonable.
>Hospital bills 2M
>After insurance jewing, down to $700,000
literally
>why can't poor people buy more money
argument.
Did you read your own cited articles? Vague reference and innuendo...wow, I'm totally convinced that I should give a fuck about other peoples' mistakes! Certainly, we should bankrupt our entire nation by keeping them alive.
You're a moron who voted for Trump, thats the real problem.
>Living my superior white life
>Kids, wife and house
>Suddenly, CANCER
>OH FUCK
>Now bankrupt due to Republican Jews and their "trickle down" piss bullshit
>This is a good thing
>???
>Lost house, almost dead due to cancer, can't even see kids because collection agencies calling all the time
>Just wanted to live a good life
This is what Republicans want.
Y'all are retarded.
Where do these clowns come from?
Is this some organized ShariaBlue shit against?
>a (((David)))
Congratulations, your phone has been subverted by kikes.
You went from millions down to $700,000 in the worst case scenario...sure thing, buddy. You also ignored my pointing out that he can surely afford a plan outside of his .gov plan before and after the advent of Obamacare (which has raised costs)
UCSD Moore's Cancer Center Fellow
Scripps Memorial Hospital Chief
Professor of Oncology IU Bloomington
That's just my immediate family...I have similar credentials. What do you know other than some bookmarked talking points and vague familiarity with some bastardized zeitgeist birthed from propaganda?
Trying to kill a political opponent is different than killing a political traitor.
>No clown, No clown, You're the clown
Oh, I see, you are just completely unfamiliar and instead of rational argument decided to lambast others with the "you're stupid" label. He would likely pay $350/mo with a $10,000 deductible. McCain is a millionaire via private enterprise - he can afford that despite his vote or Senate position. Honestly, what planet are you on? Do you think $10,000 is a lot of money for your own life? Do you think such a deductible is unattainable?
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$700,000 is not worst case scenario, that's the average.
Due to his age and how advanced his cancer is, obviously it's going to be more.
If his insurance wasn't protected under the ACA, when he was diagnosed with brain cancer, his insurance would have been well within their rights to either demand him to pay $40,000 a month premiums or just choose to kick him off his insurance, forcing him to pay out of pocket for his surgery and treatment.
amazing, with all those credentials, you're still a fucking retard who underestimated the cost of cancer treatment by over 3 times.