Hey Sup Forums, any other Christians on here besides me?

Just curious if I'm an anomaly.

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You know it,

Daily reminder that Sup Forums is a Christian board, and none of you heathans can change that.
God Bless America

Fuck off Christcuck

No, fuck off kikestriancuck.

Fuck off faggot.

Right Wing politics are concerned with the long-term survival of Civilization

But Christianity is only concerned with personal salvation to become part of a nebulous afterlife for which no evidence exists, and for which this world needs to be sacrificed, which is best expressed in the way early christians like Martin of Tours refused to fight enemies of their nations, insofar killing in this world could cost them heaven; this is also why more modern christians like Martin Luther said (I quote):

- "it is the duty of a Christian to suffer injustice, not to seize the sword and take to violence" - Martin Luther

When Jesus says "if they take your coat, let them have your shirt as well", "do not resist evil", "I have come to turn a man against his own household", "if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't follow me", "love your enemies, pray for your persecutors", "the meek will inherit the Earth", "those that wanna die will live", "blessed are those the persecuted, for they will be my Kingdom", "do not save treasures for tomorrow", "carry your cross so that you can receive eternal reward", "Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you'll have treasure in heaven", "it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for the rich to enter Heaven", "Woe to you who are well fed, Woe to you who laugh, for you will mourn and weep"...

... he is not kidding, or meaning the opposite, but actually setting down a morality where the world is a lie and only the afterlife is the real deal, so destroying your life in this world, "carrying your cross" as he says, is completely logical

Sup Forums "christians" seem to believe Jesus actually meant the OPPOSITE of all that, and that Jesus wants you to defend your family, that Jesus wants you to kill your enemies, to become prosperous, well-fed and rich in this world, and to avoid persecution and death!

Christian here too. And thanks for praying fagotry away.

Only a person that does not actually believe in the Heaven for the persecuted, the meek, and the martyred would actually re-interpret Christianity as a cult of earthly power which declares "the strong shall inherit the Earth", "my kingdom is of this world" and "you must destroy the enemies of your nation"

Only some one that just wanna use Christianity as an empty shell devoid of any true religious promises would claim that Paul and Peter misinterpreted Jesus when they submitted to their enemies and died to them while praying for them, instead of fighting the romans back and establishing a crusader kingdom, thing that one would expect them to do if Jesus meant "be a fighter and impose your will on your enemies" when he said "love your enemies and lend all they need to them without expecting anything in return"

But using Christianity as a shell devoid of any religious promises simply allows its poisonous morality to survive into the next generation.

You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "I didn't come to bring peace", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing what Jesus wanted is for them to put christian morality above the good-being of their own families.

How is God if a bird is a bat? xD

Right here buddy

Prove xtian. Post timestamp pic of you washing nigger feet.

I'm praying for your soul faggot.

Sodomites will burn
I'm a Christian to

Yes, there are other retards beside you. Don't worry, you'll feel at home with your cuck morality.

You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "Buy a sword", but you can't stop them from reading the next chapter and realizing that Jesus stopped Peter from using the sword to fight and defeat the romans, and reprimanded him for misunderstanding, all while asking him to carry his own cross (Peter, fully realizing that Jesus meant all the stuff about embracing death and his kingdom was not of this world, that angelic chariots were not going to slay his enemies and bring him victory, realized he was doomed, and would then deny Jesus 3 times)

You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because ""Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing that Jesus was asking them, not to destroy their enemies, but to not put in risk their own moral position by criticizing others. You may want them to believe that Jesus, in the middle of a speech about not judging other people and sharing, suddenly decided that speak against the muslims that didn't even exist back then!

That is not going to fly.

Sooner or later, your "strict catholic crusader" state will be reformed into liberalism, because the Gospel will still exist, because your children, like Peter, will realize that Jesus meant it when he said "you are to be persecuted and martyred for me", that Jesus didn't say "you will live in a stable and powerful civilization, free of oppresion and death, thanks to me".

>cuck morality.
>says a fucking leaf
lmao

Right here

Why is god if it spins??? Checkmate! Christer poofs.

> inb4 Turning the other cheek does not mean pacifism because Letting someone else slap your face with the back of his hand means was a form of social rebellion back then

no it wasn't. that shit was made up by radical black-nationalist liberal theologist Walter Wink to justify social rebellion in South Africa.

There are NO sources to it outside his books, nothing of what Josephus wrote about life in the ancient Middle East mentions anything close to offering the cheek or giving to your enemies your coat being an insult

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A fucking LEAF!

I would pray for you, but I won't. You can pray away the gay, but you can't pray away Canadian.

In the Greek-Roman world, love meant "common feeling of mutual interest born out of shared experiences"

Early Christians expanded it to a commandment of loving people that we don't know, that we don't care about, just so that we can fill ourselves with misguided pride about how we are friends of mankind itself
Agape never has conveyed any sort of violent or agressive implication, as some Sup Forumslacks imply

Among christian writers it has always meant means "a selfless love that is passionately committed to the well-being of others", no implication of tough love whatsoever
see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape#Christianity

Christian semantics are enough of a mess as they are, and then Sup Forums christians wanna add an extra layer of absurdity and mental masturbation: That is where the schizophrenia of right-wing christians kicks in

Only a christian could claim something as absurd as love for his enemies

Only a right-wing christian could take that absurdity to the next level by killing his enemies while declaring his love for them. So here they want us to believe that the Crusaders loved every single damn person that they slaughtered in Constantinople

Because, according to Sup Forums christians, Love is not about shared interest, it is about telling to yourself "how I love that guy" right before cutting his head off (mental masturbation, really)

dude, if you wanna hate your enemies, just do that, and stop mentally masturbating about how better and so much more heaven-deserving you are than your enemies because you somehow declared that you loved him while killing him

> le pope is le anti-Pope meme
> le christianity is corrupted meme

Question for Sup Forums "christians" claiming that the Pope is the anti-Christ

How would you prove that interpretation of "do not resist evil" by Pope or any mainstream christian leader is twisted, corrupted and out of context?

The context of the story is how christians should behave the opposite of gentiles, who love their friends and families, and hate their enemies

The larger context is a Gospel where all the main figures mentioned allowed their enemies to kill them without slaying them back: Jesus, Peter, Paul

What is true context of the paragraph?

How do you turn "Do not resist evil" into "FUCK OFF MUSLIMS!"?

YOU are the Anti-Christ, Christian of Sup Forums. You deny the words of Jesus because you don't wanna give up your earthly interests.

You "christian" people of Sup Forums/ seem to believe that Paul the Pharisee and Peter the Jew the grabbed their swords and killed the romans that wanted to execute them, come on

They were well aware that their religion demanded them to be submissive to their enemies and finally die to them, that is exactly the lesson they wanted the goyim to learn

Look, I know that you actually don't believe in the whole "infinite treasures in Heaven" thing, so you are trying to justify fighting for survival in this world where you can get actual treasures, but don't try to rewrite history please

No nigs in my area! Very rural and they seem to hate farmland for some reason...

Reporting in

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Checking those numbers and checking in.

Can't wait till all the pagan niggers invade this thread with their same arguments that have been debunked 832 times.

Yes I'm a Christian.

Yes, nigs fear the white farmer will put their lazy asses to proper work.

Lots of us here

If his kingdom is of this world, if Christianity is a religion of earthly power, why didn't it save the Western Roman Empire then?

Why did Saint Augustine wrote that it was not a christian concern the existence or not of wordly kingdoms?

Why were Christians unable to save even their fucking holy land from the Muslims, if they are the religion of earthly power that you believe they are?

Why is the North Africa now muslim, if it was once christian and roman?

That they didn't manage to screw things completely over was an accident of history, not for lack of trying

and most importantly of all questions, why has Christianity become an enabler of the muslim invasion of Europe, if it is such religion of earthly power and "the strong will inherit the Earth" as you seem to believe?

why are all the christian mainstream churches pro-refugee, if christian doctrine says "hate your enemy, and do not lend to them all they want" instead of the opposite as you claim?

The strange thing is that "christians" like you are a minority within Christianity itself that they claim to represent, with everyone from the Pope to the Anglican Churches to the Protestant Churches actively cucking for the destruction of the West

The Pope literally points to the same verses that I do to justify his doctrine, yet you come here to tell me that he is wrong, and I am wrong, and even damn Jesus and paul were wrong tho, because some medieval crusader decided to recreate christianity as a earthly cult of power in order to sack Constantinople!

Basically, all Christians are retards. I get how Christianity could help inspire people and make a society flourish but now we know better and we cant believe in lame fairy tales any longer. We need a society that shuns degeneracy and brings people together without the silly bullshit.

> le Jesus was violent this one time so we have to ignore "love your enemies" meme xDDDD

Sup Forums christians are right that Jesus didn't promice peace and niceness, he promised suffering and war

The core of the issue is what are the targets of the sword of violence he promises:

- people of your own household. Father against Son. Mother against Daughter
- money changers that were not hurting him or attacking any of his followers at all, and were the only way people that lived in a far away places of the empire could exchange their money to local currency and donate to the temple. Money changing has nothing to do with Money Lending. Money lending would not become the main economic function of Jews until 600 years later, when the Church banned the goyim from high-risk financing

For your enemies, he wants you to love them and to lend them everything they expect to you.

When his enemies arrived to arrest him, Peter tried to defend himself with the sword. Jesus reprimanded him for misunderstanding him, and then promised that Peter would deny him 3 times that night .

And why would Peter do otherwise?

Peter realized that he would die: "holy fuck he really wants us to die for him, his kingdom really is not of this world"

Of course he was going to fear for his life. He realized that Christians were never supposed to get power.

The religion never worked like that. His kingdom is NOT of this world. That is why Paul didn't try to create a crusader state. Because the only stable, non self-contradicting position christianity can take is the one of a pacifist paranoid minority that is protected by the weapons of someone with will to power.

"The meek will inherit the Earth" becomes a declaration of suicide when adopted by the strong

Found out about Rene Girard recently, says some interesting stuff

youtu.be/YWsU5rXDFVc

> le JEWsus was BASED and his teachings were corrupted by KIKES meme

Literally all the followers of Jesus, and Jesus himself were kikes.

Among his followers there were many zealots, the most radical jews of them all, that wanted wars against Rome
But sure, he was "le anti-semite non-kike that kikes hated" right?

Now you are going to talk about how he disagreed with pharisees or whatever.

But why would the pharisees be discussing mosaic law with a non-jew? Never mind, what exactly did he denounce the pharisees for that makes him not a kike? Have you actually read the Gospel?

Can you point to a single value that Jesus denounced that wasn't valid?

Because the denounciations of Jesus were idiotic, insane, even marxist

There he denounces the pharisees for wanting to punish a slut! (Jesus didnt like slut shaming, quite liberal if you ask me!)
There he denounces the rich pharisees and promises the earth to the meek and the poor! (... and marxist)
There he denounces the pharisees for wanting to live, instead of embracing death like him!
There he denounces them over a disagreement on how Mosaic Law is applied! (but Jesus was not a Jew I swear!!!)

You blindly may say "he disagreed with the kikes" as if that was something we needed to applaud!

I have to ask you "christians" of Sup Forums, what are these supposed teachings of Jesus that supposedly got corrupted by kikes? "Hate your enemies"? "Save treasures for tomorrow"? "DO resist evil"?

The opposite of everything Jesus said?

I mean really, is "but kikes killed Jesus" your only argument?

Muslims are hated by Jews as well, but Jews are smart enough to use them as a tool. The same way they use the insane anti-morality of Christianity to corrupt the ancient world and give themselves a privileged financial spot!

But if Jews don't like the own poison they created, that means that we shall drink it, according to you!

wtf I guess I love ISIS now!

I was raised Catholic. I'd probably be best described as mostly atheist now, but
1) I don't like that label due to the fedora connotations and
2) I maintain a vague doubt that our entire universe and every beautiful thing in it could have came about only by chance.

I see no reason to believe in the Christian god/the bible/etc in particular, and similarly no particular reason to think there's any afterlife (as comforting a thought as it would be). My view on that might change as I get older and death becomes more of a real thing in my mind. Who knows.

I have nothing against most variants of Christianity and I think it has had hugely positive influences on Western culture (some negative ones too of course).

Can I ask why you do believe?

I'm actually loving the turn this thread has taken.

> le Christianity made the west meme

absolute insane nonsense

western law system are based off Roman Law, which existed before Christianity existed
western languages are based on indoeuropean languages, Malta is the only western country with semitic languages root

Most of the religious symbolism of the West is pagan as well, christian trees, easter, etc
heck, the american constitution never ever mentioned Jesus anywhere, and has the separation of state and church as one of its most explicit declarations

the founding fathers and most of western people for the last 1000 years have been deists. Whenever they tried to take Jesus seriously, things went wrong very fast.

Christianity does all of that.

>Traditions
>Silly bullshit
>Leaf

Makes sense

Also no one respond to the AnCap guy, he posts the same copypastas in every thread that talks about Christianity.

> le Christianity made Europe meme xD

Christianity made Europe... a mess...
That "conversion" of Europe involved a lot of killing of whites and destruction of history and art, even worse, it involved silencing scientists (i.e. Gallileo, Copernicus, Servetus) that went through the Middle Ages, so much that Islam got ahead of Europe during this period

> bu... but the surviving scientists were christians and even talked well of the kike Jesus!!!

see: pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scientists-and-belief/
> According to the poll, just over half of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity or higher power; specifically, 33% of scientists say they believe in God, while 18% believe in a universal spirit or higher power.

Now that not being a christian is not a death sentence, most scientists don't give a fuck about pretending to worship a kike
Certainly, if Christianity was pro-Science, it would not be anti-world, and it would have not allowed Islam to get ahead of Europe and almost cuck it completely during the Middle Ages

I mean really: FUCKING ISLAM GOT AHEAD OF EUROPE
Is that the religion that you claim "made Europe"?

You believe in an era where the Islamic World was ahead of Europe, so much that our word for complex mathematics is ALGEBRA, an arab word!
But then, Jesus the Kike promised that.
He said clearly that, while men would love their enemies, men would have their enemies in their own household, so it is no wonder europeans were killing each other until well

Follower of the one true faith here.

Everuthing in the Americas is foreign.

Christianity is anti-traditionalist in the biological sense, it has no worldy interest in our beings as animals

Everything animal about the human being is considered sinful
Paul was anti-natalist, as things like wife and family would get in the way of getting people to worship his jewish god.

If unmarried men followed the words of Paul, there would no be any civilization to begin with, people would stop marrying as it would interfere witgh their mental masturbation being a "good person" by telling others that they will go to hell

See:
> 8 Now to the unmarried men and women, and for the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.
> Are you free from such a commitment? Do not look for a wife.
> 32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— 34 and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. 35 I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.
t. Paul the Pharisee

That christianity is about "family values" is a meme. The main concern of every christian is the spread of this virus-like cult at the expense of their own tribe

Jesus made it even clearer:

> "if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't become my follower me"- Jesus

the organic self-sustaining self-interested self-preserving society that Sup Forums wants is fundamentally incompatible with the "do not save for tomorrow, leave your family and spread my cult" dogma that both Jesus and Paul saw as the main duty of a christian

Are you Sunni or Shia?

FUCK OFF CHRISTKEK

Jews are a very successful group that has become successful by monopolising finances through ethnic networking and promoting ideologies that demonize their own actions so that the goyim won't copy their success

so they promote anti-nationalistic Communism among the goyim while endorsing Zionism for themselves

that is why they promoted universalist Christianity among the goyim while keeping Judaism for themselves, and including it as the Old Testament within Christianity, so that they would remain the most important people of the world.

So there is no real contradiction once you understand how Jews work: Do as I say (Christianity), not as I do (Judaism, Old Testament).

then christians wonder why Jews dominate them!

>kekistani
HAHAHAHA

to argue that Christianity unifies whites is just ahistorical

the core of the issue is that the Gospel describes a suicidal way of living, and christians have to carefully choose what to believe or not to believe

even here in the Sup Forums, at the slightest disagreement over a quote by Jesus, the supposed unifier of the white race, the 1500s and 1600s get repeated all over as catholics and protestants call each other heretic

The only time where most of the population of Europe was unified under one single head of state was during the peak of the pagan roman emperors

it is only the rise of securalism that has allowed italian catholics and protestant swedes to ignore their differences and join the European political project, which, even if dominated by cucked politicians right now, have the chance to do a lot more for whites (Visegrád Group)

Jesus' kingdom is not of this world. All that embracing Christianity will accomplish is making people give up on fighting for this world because if they are victims they get big rewards in Heaven

The only way to counter Islam is to embrace Life in THIS world, REALITY, existence, and WILL to power; not to shift the value of life away from this world

a forced meme with little Gospel justification applied onto the whole thing 500 years after fact, when it became evident that Jesus was not coming back no matter how many christians martyred themselves

the entirity of the Gospel is built around a small minority of oppressed, persecuted people that shall embrace their suffering because it will give them the key to Heaven... an oppressed minority that suddenly found themselves governing an entire empire and not suffering anymore

I actually saved these good posts.

Yes. I'm a Christian National Socialist. Fuck Jews. Hail Jesus, the deity of exposing and BTFOing jewry. Also hail Kek the minor God of Chaos under neath the Lord God Almighty.
>none of that is ironic btw

I'm here.

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I wish I could explain in words why exactly I believe, but it would be a very long story and I'm not a very eloquent speaker. Long story short: the blind will never be able to see. I'm a shitty apologist, sorry user. D:

Life is much better since I started believing though. Not without its ups and downs, but all in all much better.

Codreanu > Hitler

>christian
>national socialist
pick one.

I already pointed numerous examples of how Christian Morality itself sabotages white survival

Do you really believe that USA would be better off with twice as many blacks as it has now?

Abortion alone has split black birthrate in a half, otherwise we would be talking about african levels of black birthrates

What do i recommend instead of Christianity? Simple: Pragmatism

To recognize that what matters is the here and now. That Gods won't come to save us

That we are alone

That only ourselves can save us

Otherwise, it is game over

And Jesus is not going to cry about it, why would he? All he wants is to abolish the Earth and create a paralel dimension where everyone worships him 24 / 7

Our desires of this world, our need to fly and colonize the stars: Gone

I find it interesting that for something "divinely inspired" Christianity does not give us any insight into the Universe. If the Bible had mentioned there are 8 planets in this System, that there are worlds beyond that we can actually inhabit, that Stars are made of Hydrogen, which is part of what water is composed... May be then I would be believe "holy fuck it really is God-inspired!!!"

If Paul had made some huge scientific discovery thanks to this "revelation from the creator of the Universe", I would actually give this pharisee some credit

But all we got is endless pages of social critique, about how rich is evil, strong is evil, resisting evil is evil


I can guarantee you, there isn't a single chapter of the Gospel that I can quote that you would not call left-wing nonsense if it was said by a modern leftist instead of Jesus

(with the probable exception of some of the very trippy chapters of the Revelation)

Lets all hold hands and pray the gay away

Another Christian here, Your not alone brother..

Jesus-following Biblical Christian, reporting in.

Makes me feel really happy and encouraged that there are so many others here. God bless, Christ-anons.

No. We hate Church and Western civ and you are in fact on a Jewish pedophiles board.

I'm a deist, but I love you nonetheless.

lmao go away and shut the fuck up about your shit jew religion

Come home white man.

I go to church every Sunday and try my best to live a life that I think is pleasing to God.

>that one atheist that comes in to screech at everyone

May God bless you too, user

God bless you too user

>lmao go away and shut the fuck up about your shit jew religion

Hi ahmed welcome to Western civ. Hope you had a merry Christmas. Must suck living around so many pork eaters.

You're not even subtle about the fact that you clearly don't know shit about jews, heathen fag.

post more.

*squish*
*squish*
*squish*

Oh, didn't notice you there, Drumpfkin. What's that squishing sound, you ask. Oh, just the sound of the teeny, tiny brains of MAGAnts being squashed once their pathetic orange gets impeached.

You know what they say, Humpty Drumpfty sat on a wall, Humpty Drumpfty had a great fall!

Tick

Tock

Drumpfkins...

You clearly don't worshiping a jew and all.

christmas is a pagan holiday better rethink your existance

No, I'm pro-white, so I cannot in good conscience support the religion that is currently contributing the most to destroying the race.

>Celebrating the birth of Christ is a pagan holiday
wew

Post-modernism/Neo-marxism?

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>Christ's Mass is pagan
Keep up your butthurt.

Of course I technically worship a jew: Jesus is the King of them. GTFO and go hug a tree.

Reporting in with TP memes and Jewish Hate Against Christianity. Shall I proceed to dump?

of course you are a retard

HAHAHAHAHA you cant be this fucking stupid

Well at least you admit it.

No we dont believe in fairytales

Catholic

Real Presence of the Eucharist
Apostolic Succession
Scriptrue & Tradition

No but I am a Muslim. I don't worship three gods but one. You idolatrous kuffar are going straight to hell and Shaytan will torture you for a thousand years. Inshallah many of you are listening to the dawa and converting, to save yourselves and submit to Allah. Just this week alone I saw three hijabi in Chicago and one of them was pale and white, like you.

There is only one God and He is our LORD!

The digits confirm this truth, it seems. Very well then, let us begin.

I feel no shame about it.

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Christian checking in.

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>If one cut off his fellow he must pay him a selah. If he slapped him he must pay him two hundred zuz if he hit him with the back of his hand he must pay him FOUR HUNDRED zuz."
One Jewish commentator called Yom - Tov Lippman Heller from the 1600s called this because of "extreme humilation.

>If one has struck another with one's backhand with paper, a pinux, with untanned hides, with a roll of documents that are in one's hands then one pays FOUR HUNDRED zuz, NOT because it is a blow of pain but because it is a blow of SHAME.
Also HAMMURABI

204. If a freed man strike the body of another freed man, he shall pay ten shekels in money.

205. If the slave of a freed man strike the body of a freed man, his ear shall be cut off.

>Muh citation needed
HL Strack and G Stemberger on Introduction to the Talmud and Midrash
C Albeck (ed) Sisha Sidre Mishnah ( in Hebrew) (3 vols; Jeruslaem: Eshkol)
t. B. Qam 9.31 Liberman edition, Tosefta
(5 vols; New York: Jewish Theological Seminary)
J.J Wittstein Noveum Testamentum Graecum Cul Variis Lectionibus et commentario duobus tomis

You're right about that. But you are.

Deus vult brother
Don't let the constant Blasphemy get to you,its all talk no bite

Every fucking time EVERY FUCKING TMIE REE

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