How does Re:Zero compare with Utsuro no Hako?

How does Re:Zero compare with Utsuro no Hako?

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re zero is meh as fuck, and I don't know the other one

Beats me, still not a hero's journey.

Like complete trash.

Re Zero is shit, at least Hakomari is enjoyable.

Hakomari is far better

Writing? Maybe? You're wearing nostalgia glasses.

Hakomari only has time-loops on the first novel, and it's also better overall.

Yuuri best girl.

>Re:Zero
>World building
> Hero's journey
> Time reset.
> A flawed character that is the mc and even fans recognize it.
> Psychological to a degree on the protagonist and have him fall and rise as a hero.
> Relies on the power of avoiding and struggling to survive while dealing with the mistakes the mc have with himself.
> Hakomari
>Not really world building but rather reality.
>Not really a hero's journey.
> Relies on mental psychology to make characters go crazy.
> Time resets.
> Relies on the power of feelings most of the time to break out of loops and reality.

For starters, I actually give a fuck about the characters in Hakomari. Also has far better scenarios.

Haven't read the first one. But just finished the 1st volume of hakomari and it changed my life.

> All these people saying that Hakomari is better.
Wait a minute, has anyone read both sources at least before coming to a conclusion?

It's pretty shit, especially the dialogue and characters. Everything else is well done but so unoriginal that I can't bring myself to care.

Hakomari 1000x

> Characters.
I don't know about you, but aside from the dialogue, have you ACTUALLY read Re:Zero?

Only I've seen of Re:Zero is the anime, but I can't imagine the LN being a lot better, especially since most of the problems in Re:Zero come from the fact that most characters are either really unlikable or moe shit.

> Relies on mental psychology to make characters go crazy.
Yeah, I can see you're an idiot.

Do you guys realize the REAL series that comes out on top?

The reality and situation is what I meant as mental psychology that made them go crazy.

I've watched it, and everyone is claiming it's a fantastic adaptation.

Hakomari is superior. Is this even a question? Besides the point, it didn't just have loop gimmicks in its story so I don't see the need for comparison.

Eh, you're kinda seeing it from a different set of glasses I suppose. You are not really able to read it, that's why.

> Watched
There's the problem.

> Didn't just have loop gimmicks
Neither did Re:Zero. Seriously, how are we to compare if we haven't read the both sources?

Does it really need to be said? Re:Zero is garbage in comparison.

>power of feelings
yeah, this was pretty bullshit. typical japs yelling and being hot blooded to solve problems. I like Re:Zero more on this point for the psychological aspect of the hero's journey through terrible circumstances.

>mental psychology
pic related, user

How do you know? We are only on the second arc.

You do realize the anime is an adaptation of a light novel that's on its 8th volume with a couple of side content correct?

Repeating loop 400 000 times, I doubt Subaru does that so many.

Where do they sell "impresionable teenager" glasses?

Everyone had brain problems. Aya had multiple personalities, Mogi went insane from loops, Kazuki went yandere, I don't remember some details about Daiya so I can't say much, and Kokone was desperate.

Pure fucking shit.

Hakomari characters >>>>>> Re zero

And you can't seem to understand subtlety of a personality unless you read or get spoonfed by it.

From what I've seen of Re:Zero, Hakomari is better. Of course my opinion is going to be biased as Hakomari as it's actually finished and Re:Zero isn't. Although I don't need to have to finish something in order to deem whether it's good or not, so I think I'll stick to my opinion of Hakomari being better than Re:Zero. I really liked the progression of Kazuki and I doubt Subaru will actually go full yandere, so that's a key reason.

Again, how? Also, read this if you want to understand REAL characters.

Nice backpedaling, you thought I was judging the anime only but I read ahead since I wanted to give it a chance after even staunched readers dropped it by the fourth arc.

>Forth arc
Are you talking about the forth volume?

> Yandere
> Being the key reason.
What?

>moe shit
Oxymoron. They're just shit and boring, not moe at all.

> Impresionable
And that is why you are blind.

One is getting an adaptation; the other one never will

> Shit and boring.
Subjective to your eyes.

Fair point, I should've said that they are trying to make them moe, but fail.

It was pretty much in one of those back section books that people barely look, I suppose. I don't know about this series though.

Well I meant I like them more, not that they're "deeper" or anything.

Hold on, all you guys want are some gimmick to a personality without looking at the depth.

>you missed an s, therefore your point automatically invalid.

What come off to you readers as to why you all like the characters is due to some weird quirk that stands out or something bombastic; when in reality, you people don't seem to look at other characters that have depth but no particular distinction by your eyes.

I only proved my point as to why you are blind.

> Fourth arc.
They gave up because they pussied out.

He's kinda almost there, he's within a insufferable reality of the choices he's made. Even in the most painful way.

Well we've only got 1/4 of the main characters so far, unless you've read ahead them disregard this.

Rather, the way Kazuki developed into a yandere was interesting to me.

Hakomari is simply better in every way.

>Re:Zero
> Hero's journey
>have him fall and rise as a hero.

I'm not so sure about that.

Its fourth volume, not fourth arc.

LN? Not really, as it was WN.

Re:Zero fanboys in full force I see.

You criticize the series obviously were going to argue against it. Unless your original goal was to have a circle jerk of nay sayers.

With one giant autist about eyes and lens in every thread that mentions it.

The fourth arc isn't even out on LN yet, the LN has only ever caught up to the third arc.

Re zero is kinda meh.

In hakamori that loop shit was basically only relevant and used in the first and last volume.

We had shit like having your body share another soul with someone in specific times of the day to that kingdom royale danganronpa shit to Daiya and Kazuki mind games for 2 volumes.

Basically had more different things going for it while Re Zero we all know it's just Subaru getting stuck in a loop in each arc and getting fucked over by either the witch or people around him all until he dies enough to escape it for a while.

>Poor mans All you need is kill getting shilled on Sup Forums this much

Kill yourself.

I don't think so.

>shill
>use capitalize on greentext

I agree though, Re:Zero is poor man's All You Need is Kill.

All you need is kill never gave out a clearer idea about the time travel.

Its sad really.

No, it is their own series. The only thing that is similar is the idea of return by death but All You Need is Killed never bothered to explore further.

More ways than one.

Well, that's why you're a moron.

Well, I see that you are incorrect. Every way? No.

This.

This should have been a VN or a short manga like AYNIK, you can't keep dragging the timeloop shit for several volumes.

Shilled? More like shitted on. There is ever only one thread in the catalouge that isn't shitting on this show.

I don't believe it is a poor man's All You Need is Kill. The only idea you are connecting is return by death. Fundamentally, the setting, story, characters, as well as the system of the loops are different by a long shot. Don't make this out to be a degraded version of another.

No no no, you are asking to leave out world building of a world as well as psychological pacing (AYNIK did this badly with its psychological aspect). You have a hero's journey that starts from zero and you build yourself up while failing and to keep trying. You are fundamentally making it seem like it should be shorter to leave out its development.

That was the series that came to mind after seeing this show. Gonna have to agree.

You mean disagree. See this .

No, I mean agree, fuck off.

It pains me how much this is true. It's either a thread that tries to rile up other anons into a devolved shitflinging contest or a thread where people can actually discuss that gets ruined by that damn memeboy poster and those bait copy-pastas. People are extremely dedicated to hating on this series for some reason.

Even the dedicated fans say to fuck off to the generalizing of the threads.

And I see that you are wrong, fuck off.

No wonder threads of this show get shit on when they're overrun by retards like you.

He is a rare case let it be.

I should say the same about you. And no wonder the threads of shitposting gets shit on when they're overrun by retards like you. And you people make more of them than us. Just look at the stalker threads. And the recent shitpost of "comparing to SAO thread" when it is a hell lot better.

Dude, calm down. For fuck sakes you're the reason why people think we are so cancerous.

I loved hakomari far more, so I was excited when the anime for re:zero came out.
I dropped re:zero by the fourth episode.

That's a mistake. Arcs 1 & 2 is just the prologue. The real story starts when arc 3 hits. Even then episode 7 got quite alot of attention.

Why did you drop it on episode 4 in the first place?

What happens in arc 3? The prologue just bored me to death.

>You have a hero's journey that starts from zero and you build yourself up while failing and to keep trying.

And yeah this will get boring several arcs later when he keeps doing the same shit with the time loops to fix his problems.

The only thing that could keep it interesting is if he had some set limit before facing a penalty of some kind.

Well depends, do you want the spoiler or non-spoiler version?

Go ahead, spoiler me. I might pick it up if it's that interesting.

The shitposting base is even more cancerous. You suddenly accuse us of being the cancerous ones when we have no say in the idiot that spams the Photoshop of Subaru and copypastas. We constantly have to ward off the idiots that constantly shit on the series. You have any idea how many threads were made AGAINST Re:Zero? And you call us the stigma. That is called being a hypocrite.

There's always a penalty to his death if you haven't noticed, and that is not just the pain of death. And the penalty to his power can sometimes work to his advantage.

For his sake, I hope he's just false flagging.

Should we link him the arc 3 details (I'm pretty sure it is the web novel version though)?

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We have had people like you come across our thread multiple times so we basically made a pastebin for this kind of situation at this point, forgive the bad grammar.
We also omitted alot of things such as chracter development/dialogue etc. etc. as we tried to summarize the entirety of the third arc which is 90 chapters worth of content to a couple of pages.

Unless he can read moon we really can't show him the WN.

I think that's the web novel so alot of that may be ommitted.