And whats with the parents are bad message? In the 90s parents were always wanting good despite being oblivious. The parents in this movie are just plain evil.
Not only this but the only man who wants his daughter to cover up and be modest is a child molester who gets killed for trying to discipline her.
Plus the girls defeats everyone from her dad to Pennywise.
The only religious character is a jew and he isn't depicted as a sinister person using religion to gain power as hollywood loves to portray the believers.
The pre pubescent lead gets kissed by two boys, implied to have had sex with the villian and gets assaulted by her father.
Why cant I enjoy movies anymore? I didn't asl to have my eyes opened to this unfathomable pit of degeneracy manipulated by an ancient middpe eastern tribe.
Bad parents trope was active in the 80s. See Nightmare on Elm Street 1984.
The parents were bad in IT 1990 too. Fuck your post is retarded. Typical for a paki.
Jose Bell
Predictive programming.
Ryan Martin
I meant to say that the trope wasn't this painfully obvious before.
Jacob Hughes
>Why is hollywood sexualizing kids so much? They're doing it sure, but in IT's case it was Stephen who put his pedophilia fantasies in the book, it's just that the literal orgy didn't make it into either of the movie versions
Elijah James
>implied to have had sex with the villain
There was no indication that Pennywise stuck his clown cock in her.
William Lewis
they didn't put the pedo sex scene in that remake
Jacob Stewart
>pre-pubescant It's definitely weird but not that weird
Charles Wilson
He understood it wrong, it was kids who had sex to defeat pennywise, not with penny to defeat him
It didn't make it into the original version either
Isaac Lopez
I meant to say the asshole autist who kills his father
Grayson Allen
also go read the fucking book you poof
Jaxson Ross
>Implying Hollywood gives a fuck what the book says
Liam Reed
I never watched the movie, parent's would let me as a kid. Only reason I know about it was because I read the book when they said they were going to make another movie. I hate watching a movie or TV show based off a book before I have read it because it will make me hate both. If I read the book 1st I can hate it or like it before it is tainted by the jew
Bentley Carter
They had sex to get out of the sewers, they already defeated pennywise.
Ian Evans
hey anyone who has watched either of the movies do they address anything to do with them being adult's half of the book or is it all about the children story?
Jayden Reed
Well it was sick either way, acted or not. When Stephen was writing It, he was addicted to drugs and alcohol, and apparently heroin and alcohol when mixed together makes you horny as fuck so that's why he wrote about his fantasies. Sickest thing is, he already had a child when he was writing this book, his father was the pennywise for his kid
remake is kids only, and apparently remake is just part 1. Original TV series had adults in it where they were remembering what happened when they were kids. At least that's the version I watched. I have no interest to watch part 2 remake, this was already enough
Hudson Rogers
In the book the pre pubescent girl gets gangbanged by like 7 boys. Stephen King is fucked up.
Xavier Cooper
This. As dirty as the movies get, they're still toning king's vision way down. It's a spooky horror story, though. Everything is supposed to be dark and dirty. That's the point.
Ian Miller
>implying hollywood isn't a left-over cell of the communist party where many of the producers and writers in hollywood were actual soviet agents.
>implying this isn't the reason there is so much categorical propaganda content in their production.
Ryan Long
The girl was more of the typical "damsel in distress", I thought. She had to be saved and was portrayed as a victim throughout.
I actually didn't mind this movie.
David Green
I found the book interesting because I grew up in small city which was similar to Derry. People love sweeping shit under the rug. Drugs, poofs etc. Seemed like everyone thought they knew everyone but when someone did something fucked up it was just an isolated thing that would never happen again. Even though it would just happened again given time
Adrian Murphy
The only good part in this movie is humour and those teenagers. The bad part is that there was no "preage gangbang". It was in the book.
I don't understand why they had to make a horror out of It. It could be a good psychological thriller.
Connor Miller
I laughed pretty hard when the kids in the book are talking about syphilis. When the kid said the scientific term for cum was jizzum I lost it
Daniel Carter
there was literally nothing wrong with wanting to dick the red head in that movie. Even her own daddy could not stop himself
Noah Russell
Pretty good flick for a modern horror film. Compared to the book the sexual themes were handled very tastefully. The biggest problem with the movie is it only had like 1 or 2 scenes that were actually scary.
Hunter Diaz
Too much cocaine for the King. I hope he don't do this stuff anymore.
Chase Walker
That guy that killed his dad stole a gun and he did not even use it to kill the nigger when he snuck up on him
Aside from that I also felt the movie went on for about 30 minutes too long. Horror movies should be quick and fleeting
Eli Hill
Stop consuming Jewish media. Stop watching black sports and stop listening to rap. Read books and listen to western art music
Evan Wright
trust the jews to turn a knife into a gun
Grayson Long
I think that I'll have to re-read the book. Heh
Jonathan Collins
agreed on the length, they also telegraphed like every scary scene so it ruined the scare
Joshua Nguyen
>Why is hollywood sexualizing kids so much?
any movie that delves into a controversial subject is now degenerate..
just admit your buthurt and you wan't all movies to ingore controversial subjects because the feels over reals.
Carter James
I was at work listening to the audiobook and I got some odd looks because my side flew over japan and I could not explain it without seeming like a fucking nut
Luis Perry
The pre pubescent 15 year old lead who is basically grown
David Baker
Take a closer look at movie star kids in hollywood. They made them cross dress in secret, but now are more open about it. Bruce Willis’, George Lucas’, Sly Stallone’s. And Leiv Schrieber shows his kids off like show ponies and is too close to them.
Luke Taylor
Also the 70s, where that thing wasn't seen as so bad by avant-garde culture.
Leo Harris
>Why is hollywood sexualizing kids so much? SATAN A TAN A NUS
Carter Russell
Bruh in the book the female protgagonist literally fucks every single boy in the group to "get over her fear of her father"
Are all pakis this fucking stupid?
Austin Thompson
>fucking kids is controversial now instead of just flatly rejected Wow the Muslims must be gaining a lot of ground over there
Benjamin Murphy
it's also set in 1950's USA when the kids all fuck
Caleb Sanchez
he is jealous that his prophet only fucked one 9 year old
Kevin Thompson
Its a huge book though, the original miniseries is like 3.5 hours
Zachary Peterson
It didn't have any scary scenes, they made really clear when there was going to be a jump scare
>music gets spookier and voice louder That's how the "scary scenes" were. The dancing scene was supposed to be scary but it made me and the audience fucking laugh
Tyler Johnson
Overall this version was better, but pennywise was just a lame modern jumpscare monstef
Aiden Howard
>Why is hollywood sexualizing kids so much?
Sex sells. The same reason Hollywood has been pushing sex in all their movies for years. Now they are getting smarter about it and targeting the last bastion of taboo sexuality. Hetro hotties, Homo hotties and now finally Teen/Tween hotties.
David Bell
You do realize Hollywood is run by Jews, don't you? They also have ties to the jewish porn industry and silicon valley (facebook, google...)
Kevin Torres
modern horror is shit. I only get scared if you can mess with my mind. Just randomly flashing shit on screen is a shock.It's been done so much I don't even flinch anymore. I have seen a tranny vagina. It's worse than anything jewood can come up with
Cooper Allen
>only fucked one 9 year old Yeah what kind of prophet or leader was he, right? Geez he should have had a whole harem of em. Lightweight.
Charles Wood
if he was such a conqueror he would of fucked every female before his followers could touch them
Jason Young
I got creeped out when he was talking to georgie
Brandon Roberts
Sometimes they get it right. Covenant was the only good alien movie since Aliens. But this felt flat. I get that they needed to distance themselves from the old version, but honestly, Tim Curry's performance was great, it was all of the losers that sucked.
Christian Roberts
Have you ever read the book? The movie leaves out the part where they all have group sex with each other
Read the book you dweeb its not hollywood its stephen king. The movie isnt even a fraction of the wierd child pedophilia shit in the book. This boys run a train on the girl for fucksake
Jace Mitchell
I think covenant was alright, liked how it explained david was an insane android that made the perfect predator. I wouldn't say it ever scared me
Jace Hughes
It's a shitty movie based on a shitty book written by a shitty pervert.
Luis Cruz
I think king must have been molested or just abused as a child. Lost of his work is fucked up
Asher Allen
In the movie, they have a orgy.
On top of that, it's VERY easy for libtards that makes ton of fetishes in their book to become popular.
Try writing a book with degenerate shit in it, and every single publisher will kiss your ass. School will round up to take your work and spread it to kids
Eli Gomez
he wrote the book in the 80's. USSR had not fallen yet. Maybe he was influenced but I think you cunts are having an autistic fit over nothing. They took the pedo shit out of the remake
Caleb Mitchell
>Why is hollywood sexualizing kids so much?
It's not complicated. Hollywood elites are pedophiles, and they want to be able to do it openly without getting in trouble or being shamed, so they're trying to remove the taboo.
Leo Butler
One of the times that Holywood wasn't that bad. The books had the 11 year olds have an orgy
Nathaniel Campbell
in the books*
Anthony Sanders
I agree it didn't have any real gotcha moments, but overall I thought it was creepy enough, and the end was haunting
Ayden Parker
it will have a part II with them being adults, presumably with the orgy
Asher Collins
Alien Covenant is very very good, it's scary but the most powerful scene was when the alien erupted from the back of the guy but that was more of a disgusting scene than a scary one. It isn't about the original android going nuts, it's about the second one being crippled and unable to have free will. The underlying nazist/fascist themes are interesting but the best message to come out of the movie is the Nietzschean one, David attaining godlike status, the Ubermensch, and the life cycle perpetuating itself. In aliens humans and space jokeys are not the good ones, they are species that accomplished their role but refuse to die out of selfishness and illusional superiority complex. Basically the engineers turned into sapient species to the point they could control evolution through engineering, so they created humans, which in turn became sapient and sacrificed natural selection evolution to cultural one. This made them vulnerable and static in physical evolution sense so they turn sick and die, but it turned them into creators of art, science, because of all knowledge being ever accumulated and never lost which led them to create the android who had all that knowledge in him but without the physical fragility, so he was all humanity was without the bad sides. After realising it their creator gets jealous and cripples them into mere servants out of fear. David realises he is better in any standard than his god but he can't reproduce, so he realises his function as a sentient being by creating life using science, thus creating the aliens, perfect in form, almost indestructible so the effective opposite of humans who are physically frail but without any creative ability, because he sees that once a certain point is achieved, no more evolution can be made in terms of knowledge and art without turning redundant, so he creates the best life form possible by giving it a built in way to ever evolve in an unending cycle thus forever perpetuating life.
Jayden Gonzalez
If one more person says BUT IN THE BOOK because they didn't read the fucking thread and don't know it's already been posted 50 fucking times, I will cut the internet down
Plus it's not even a valid comment. Who the fuck cares about the book? Steven King is and always has been a degenerate libtard.
Hunter Cruz
I couldn't even take the movie seriously because i knew about the orgy
Is Stephen King mind so fucked up? I know about the drugs, but even with then it's disturbing to write something like that
Elijah Peterson
Muslims don't fuck kids. They marry them.
A person you percieve as your partner having intercpurse you isn't traumatic. A person of authority (teacher,parent etc.) Taking advantage is. Just ask any old person in one of the more rural areas.
Robert Parker
>Plus it's not even a valid comment. Who the fuck cares about the book?
The book is the entire reason the movie is made, it's the source material. Are you that much of a brainlet?
Jacob Rogers
>King has spoken about the scene numerous times, the most recent being in 2013. “I wasn’t really thinking of the sexual aspect of it,” King noted on an official message board, as confirmed by his manager.
>“The book dealt with childhood and adulthood — 1958 and Grown Ups. The grown ups don’t remember their childhood. None of us remember what we did as children—we think we do, but we don’t remember it as it really happened.
>“Intuitively, the Losers knew they had to be together again. The sexual act connected childhood and adulthood. It’s another version of the glass tunnel that connects the children’s library and the adult library. Times have changed since I wrote that scene and there is now more sensitivity to those issues.”
They leave parts of the source out all the time, often for good reasons. King's pedphilia was something that should not have even been alluded to.
Logan Price
What age did your prophet consummate the marriage again?
Aaron Hill
>Implying having sex within wedlock and outside of wedlock is the same.
Also the word used in the hadith is niqah which is wrobgly translated as "have intercourse with" as it also means "Formalizing marriage".
It simply depends on the context. However it is permitted to have sex at any age within wedlock because it doesn't damage society nor does it traumatoze the child.
Michael Butler
>An 8 year old getting fucked by a dirty epileptic sand nigger who pretends to talk to god isn't traumatizing as long as you call her your wife while fucking her
Kayden Jackson
What physical differences are there between having sex within marriage compared to outside of marriage exactly?
Your original statement was "Muslims don't fuck kids". Then what the fuck are they doing to consummate the marriage? The mental gymnastics by you retards is astounding.
Julian Evans
Husbands have complete authority over their wives in islam
Dominic Russell
how does having sex get one out of a sewer?
I will never read the book or watch the movie, so I am not worried about spoilers.
I am just curious what kind of mental gymnastics King had to go through to shoe horn his pedo fantasy into the story.
Again, I am really curious, how does having sex get one out of a sewer???
Thanks.
Isaac Perry
Which kid did they sexualize?
Kevin Butler
What? the movie didn't even include the gangbang at the end.
2:23 , they laugh at us. Teach your kids , knowledge is only way to win. Fuck these things.
Ryan Reyes
>King has spoken about the scene numerous times, the most recent being in 2013. “I wasn’t really thinking of the sexual aspect of it,” King noted on an official message board, as confirmed by his manager.
>“The book dealt with childhood and adulthood — 1958 and Grown Ups. The grown ups don’t remember their childhood. None of us remember what we did as children—we think we do, but we don’t remember it as it really happened.
>“Intuitively, the Losers knew they had to be together again. The sexual act connected childhood and adulthood. It’s another version of the glass tunnel that connects the children’s library and the adult library. Times have changed since I wrote that scene and there is now more sensitivity to those issues.”
Henry Turner
It was that way for all of our history, if not tacitly accepted. Feminists (I.E. Jews) started the pedo scare.
Jaxson Barnes
Yes, good job posting King's rambling excuses for the second or third time this thread
Leo Mitchell
>excuses You sound like an SJW, you realize that right?
>sensitivity to those issues He has to use SJW language to explain it.
Ethan Reyes
Someone asked "what kind of mental gymnastics SK used"
Are you legitimately retarded?
David Jackson
I'm an SJW because I think kiddie fucking is wrong? Sorry, someone else posted it earlier in defense of the content, and I assumed that was your intent as well
Adam Barnes
Its because you want to shame people for something you dislike and you literally use SJW language to try to do that.
Nathan Lee
When that something is sexualization of chidren, then yes, I will draw that line in the sand
Owen Hall
Exactly the argument used against racism, sexism, etc. Its too bad to allow so we're going to censor it. Line in the sand. You know this. Just admit it.
Ayden Barnes
Your day will come. No matter how much normalization you try, genuine good people hate pedophilia. Try rationalizing this to myself or someones parent in real life. Guaranteed a beating.
Aiden Jenkins
Because you were a small child then and unaware of the adult perspective.
Brandon Watson
>try being racist at me in real life honkey you nazis get beat up on the streets I wish there was a minimum IQ test requirement to post here.
Owen Rogers
Racism is good, kiddie fucking is bad
Ethan Bell
>The grown ups don’t remember their childhood. None of us remember what we did as children—we think we do, but we don’t remember it as it really happened. This is bullshit, or the excuse of a guy who burned his brain to cinders with drug use. I remember every relevant thing that happened to me in my life in pretty good detail.
Anthony Wright
I already know you hold that position, pal. I'm asking you to use some basic reason and see that your desire to censor it is the same as the desire for people to censor racism. Its an emotional reaction and detrimental to a free society.
Carson Butler
Cry about it on the lamppost
Colton Adams
This. Mk ultra shatters memories, personality. A genuine experience especially positive is hard to suppress. Happy children have happy memories.
Bentley Clark
Welcome to the RED ZONE, The pills are red, the rivers run red, and all you see is red.
Ian Miller
>Muslims dont fuck little girls unless theyre married to them, little boys are open season Ftfy
Mason Moore
He's the one crying about it in 11 posts.
Mason Robinson
A free society has us on the brink of social collapse. Why should anyone care to support it?