Kiwi/pol/ General - No Government Edition

>Election is over people, carry on.

>Next Election Date
2020
>Register to Vote
elections.org.nz/voters/enrol-check-or-update-now

>Results:
National - 46% - 58 Seats
Labour - 35.8% - 45 Seats
NZ First - 7.5% - 9 Seats
Greens - 5.9% - 7 Seats
>5% Cut Off
TOP - 2.2%
Maori - 1.1%
ACT - 0.5% - 1 Seat (Epsom)
United Future - 0.1%

>Total Votes Cast:
2,179,668 and counting

>Possible Coalitions:
National-NZFirst
National-Green
Labour-Green-NZFirst

>Election Results
interactives.stuff.co.nz/NZ-election-home/

>Parties who died in the line of duty this election:
United Future
Maori Party
The Opportunities Party

>Top Story - Winston Peters toys with media, gives no clues about next government
stuff.co.nz/national/politics/97182543/winston-peters-toys-with-media-gives-no-clues-about-next-government

>News
>The coalitions that could form NZ's 52nd Government and how likely they are
stuff.co.nz/national/politics/97180977/the-coalitions-that-could-form-nzs-52nd-government-and-how-likely-they-are

>Alison Mau: National stuck to the 'fiscal hole' all the way, because they had to
stuff.co.nz/national/politics/97166912/a03-alison-mau-we-will-have-a-steadyasshegoes-government-one-which-has-the-fiscal-chops-to-keep-on-keeping-on-if-nats-in-lead

>Party 'for a fairer New Zealand' falls flat, as Gareth Morgan's TOP falls far short of 5 per cent
stuff.co.nz/national/politics/97173822/gareth-morgan-concedes-defeat

>Special votes could be key to how Winston Peters' considers Labour option
stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/97181238/special-votes-could-be-key-to-how-winston-peters-considers-labour-option

Other urls found in this thread:

nzfirst.org.nz/foreign_affairs_and_trade
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Airways_Flight_2279
twitter.com/AnonBabble

Feels like his party could go either way.

But I wonder if it's the kiss of death for NZfirst if they side with National, just like happened to the Maori party.

How national is this national party?

They are:
>pro-immigration (70,000 per year in a country of 4 million people)
>economically right-wing

Basically their policy is to sell out the country to wealthy immigrants for a tonne of cash.

Title it /nzpol/ for more posters.

I don't hold out great hopes, but it's better than if National had just got their own way. If they had been able to govern alone, we would most definitely be in for more record immigration. Now at least there's a chance the brakes can be put on. It's probably a few years too late at this point anyway unfortunately.

It depends on whether they get meaningful concessions from National, especially a reduction to 10k immigrants a year. The Maori party were too low IQ and greedy to be able to negotiate effectively with National, and their voters only want gibs and will always be mad because the gibs are never enough. National needs NZ First to form a government, so it is possible they will get a lot of what they want.

>Possible Coalitions:
>National-Green
Not a chance.

NZF voter here, never would I want to see those green red commie cucks in power.

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Winnie will definitely atleast try to negotiate for PM with Labour-Greens, he already has deputy PM secured with the Nats. An user late last night mentioned something that there was a poll a few weeks ago that said two thirds of NZF voters would prefer going with National in a coalition, so we'll see.

Even if it would be the "kiss of death" for NZF, you have to remember that Winnie is 74 and will likely retire from politics after this government. I firmly believe he will go with Jewcinda.

Post post election salt

>Legalise Cannabis got more votes than the Cons
btfo

Where do we find salt? It seems like even on Stuff every comment is right wing.

goodbye $125k of Colins money

I wonder how much money Gareth Morgan wasted

DISCUSS THE ELECTION YOU FUCKING SHEEPY CUNTS

>have to remember that Winnie is 74 and will likely retire from politics after this government

This is the thing that makes me think he possibly might go labour greens because he has nothing to lose, he might want to send a big "fuck you" to the national party for the mass immigration and economic policies. Also he seemed to mention the special votes in his post-election interview, so he's perhaps considering the possible size and strength of a left wing + nz first block.

Either way he's in power. I think he'll retire in a year or two before the next election.

Like 3 million. That's almost $100 a vote. Kind of feel bad for him desu, I liked most of his policies but it was just gonna be a wasted vote.

I voted Greens and would get hard for a National-Green coalition.
Not holding my breath though, most Green voters are hysterical hard left turbofaggots and James Shaw knows this.
Not the best option for sending Chang home but it ticks all my other boxes.

>I voted Greens
neck yourself

>who are still voting for act?

Unless special votes add another seat for Labour, Greens or NZF it could be a precarious combination as they'd have only the barest minimum 61 seats.

It'll all come down to what Winston is able to get out of either side. Labour is probably more desperate to get in after 9 years out, but National is better-placed with a larger number of seats.

funnily enough the chick the screenshot is from is nz chinese

>Speaking to the Rotorua Chamber of Commerce on Friday, the New Zealand First leader said they would only consider forming a coalition Government with parties that backed his call for "economic nationalism".

>"We are not going to go with any party that wants to run the economy the way it has been now," he said.

English and Joyce will never do the u-turn on the economy that Winston is looking for.

What do you want winnie to do?

I don't like either lab or nat but I think the nats need to be punished for selling out the country

I just hope with winnie goes with lab he can keep the sjw shit in line

>joyce
Is there a more punchable looking face in politics? That permanent smirk though.

>Is there a more punchable looking face in politics?
Paula Bennett.

I would agree. No way will national turn their backs on their chinkpoofarmer voterbase. It's a sad day when labour and the greens are the most viable option.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Gareth Morgan. The policy is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of peer reviewed evidence most of the policy will go over a typical voters head. There's also Morgan's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from communist literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these policies, to realize that they're not just great- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike TOP truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the evidence based in his catchphrase "Evidence based policy," which itself is a cryptic reference to John Maynard Keynes epic The economic consequences of the peace I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Gareth Morgans genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a TOP tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

I hate what National has done to the country, so by default I guess it's Labour. They are like an undercooked cake currently though, and the Greens are a fucking shambles.

Honestly it might be best if he went with National, but only if he's able to force major changes and concessions out of them. The changes that are required would put off their farmer/big-business supporters though, so I'm not sure how willing they'd be to fix their ways.

I'd hate-fuck her throat if you know what I mean

Green being a shambles is good, it would make it easy for winnie to dominate them in negotiations

GREENS + NZ FIRST + LABOUR PARTY

NEW ZEALAND ECO-FASCIST NATIONAL SOCIALISM NOW

DEPORT THE GOOKS

PUT SOLAR PANEL ON ROOF

A grape looking slut if ever there was one


She's just a mess

Ironically this copypasta is so niche it will fade into obscurity much like TOP.

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fuck off cunt. your bants, as they were yesterday, are just shit

I unironcially support being tough for the environment even at the cost of some economic benefits but I have the greens because instead of pushing for real environmental polices they just go for carbon tax and the shittiest of sjw crap

The 2020 election is going to be of real concern. Assuming winnie doesn't contest it NZF will cease to be relevant. There will be room for a new party to take on populist policies while being vaguely anti-immigrantion.

>DEPORT THE GOOKS
>PUT SOLAR PANEL ON ROOF

Hope to see this on a party billboard in 2020.

nzfirst.org.nz/foreign_affairs_and_trade
>Oppose the National-led government’s sponsorship of UNSC2334.

>United Nations Security Council Resolution 2334 was adopted on 23 December 2016. It concerns the Israeli settlements in "Palestinian territories occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem".
>The resolution states that Israel's settlement activity constitutes a "flagrant violation" of international law and has "no legal validity". It demands that Israel stop such activity and fulfill its obligations as an occupying power under the Fourth Geneva Convention.

What did Winston mean by this?

That's actually disappointing. I don't really care about the palestinians but anything which causes israel to engage in autistic screeching is a good thing.

good goy winnie

F

I've thought about that, too. NZF will just be irrelevant, as Ron Mark is no where near popular enough to actually be a viable replacement.

Maybe us lads should form our own party?

Let's be honest, if Israel was somehow handed over to the palestinians it would just become another muslim run shithole

>Maybe us lads should form our own party?

I have unironically been considering this

>bants

no bants here lad

preventing immigration to New Zealand and deporting the gooks under the guise of protecting the environment is unironically a good thing and the perfect troll for greens. It's also a huge wedge issue on the left if you can get them fighting over it.

Also socialism works wonders on small, sustainable, homogenous white nations like New Zealand. A Labour economic platform slowing down migration and preventing foreign ownership would be fantastic for your house prices and young people wanting to buy a home.

I wish the Australian Greens and Labor were beta enough to bend the knee to our anti-immigration parties. Unfortunately they are full on commie.

Id argue National is more desperate. This would be English's second lost election he'd be a laughing stock. Ardern has time on her side

Start the New Zealand eco-fascist party lad.

NO POOFS

NO GOOKS

SOLAR PANEL ON ROOF

I also forgot

NO JOOS

>Jewcinda
True, their coalition is more likely to capitulate to Winnie's demands.

And backlash is mitigated by him retiring.

Pretend to want to legalize cannabis and to ban 1080 and you can capture the voters from both of those fringe parties.

Shane Jones is the planned replacement, it might be good for the party to be less focused on one person.

Shane Jones is good for banter but he is no winston unfortunately.

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MUMMY + WINNIE

LETS DO THIS

>New Zealand
>homogenous white nation
kek, when? theres always been atleast 10% maori here.

But desu, establishing a political party in the center of the political spectrum would give us great leniency on issues. Also, what you said on preventing immigration under the guise of environmental protection is spot-on. We'd be a "Softer Greens" party which would cater to the middle and older demographics (lets face it, the young will always be attracted to the commiefucks in Labour)

Anyone have any vandalized billboard images from this election? I've only got some from the last one.

Giving women the right to vote was a huge mistake

That's... not the worst idea

Holy shit, too right mate. We're actually on to something here

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So what about Labour? I hope they're not like British Labour

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>Nats/Green coalition
Hahha you're fuckig delusional mate.
You do realise that Bill English is a FUCKING WHITE MALE

It would completely destroy the greens by the end of the term

Labour are a bit more anti immigration, they want to lower it a little. They're to the right of Corbyn and not retarded commies like him but still left of centre.

hearing all day yesterday on communist channel:

"NZ is on the knife edge it's going to be a close cliffhanger, scan and email your ballots, etc etc"

turns out it wasn't even close, fake news at it again

I'm half tempted for that reason alone I'm in favor of Nats+Greens

It'd be a lot of collateral damage over 3 years though. 250k immigrants + refos

They want to increase our quota of people who try to hijack aircraft (aka terrorists) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Airways_Flight_2279

So they want 'a bit less' migration but are worse than national in every other way?

But said they want (a bit) less migration

Now I am confuddled

Pretty much. Her anti-immigration stance was pretty much just a ploy to steal votes from Winston.

>10% maori

You get along a lot better with this indigenous population far better than any other anglosphere nation has and less burden of guilt to them. Maoris are far more functional than Australian Aborigines for example. Maoris aren't going anywhere anytime soon, maybe except to Australia (seriously they won't stop fucking coming here).

You can also leverage the maoris by saying, why should we continue and flood NZ with Chinese and further demographically displace the maoris like we did in the past?

It would also gut nationals farmer support
Altho they're fucked either way because NZFirst coalition would gut their chink support

It's complicated. National are basically glorified accountants - if the financial numbers look good they are pleased, even if they are propped up by immigration like a ponzi scheme. Unfortunately aspects such as level of healthcare and the amount of homeless aren't considered by them as determinants of success.

>Libby Shaw

HOLY FUCK IT'S LIZ SHAW

I still have her nudes and was about to format that drive

Maori are genetically more chinks than nogs

>why should we continue and flood NZ with Chinese and further demographically displace the maoris like we did in the past?
It wouldn't work. Their numbers are the highest they have ever been and will continue to explode because they keep fucking their cousins.

So what's the general consensus? Would we want Labour/Greens/NZF coalition with Winnie as PM?

>Winnie will retire before he gets to be PM (bar the extremely unlikely nzf+greens+lab with him as PM)
It wasn't meant to end like this...

In theory:
National: let in unlimited chinks and poos, limited rapefugees
Labour: slightly less chinks and poos, increased rapefugees
I still remember when liz shaw first burst onto the scene. Man so many laughs were had at her expense.

Post pls

1 year free tertiary education, ban foreign speculators from buying houses, cut immigration, medicinal cannabis, increase minimum wage, stop selling state houses, remove tax loopholes and stop multinationals avoiding taxes, extend paid parental leave, start charging water bottlers a royalty.

I was surprised that no one spray painted "Anal sex" above the Labour slogan of "Let's Do This"

You mean like Iran? Oh wait, literally no countries in the region were Mudslime until israel/usa shitted them up to weaken them. Face it, Israel is cancer and the main reason muslims are relevant.

Can't tell you. I'm still torn between him being Deputy PM with Nats, or PM with Labour-Greens, since I know the latter will try to make things worse by inviting Somali pirates and spending out of their own asses.

>bar the extremely unlikely nzf+greens+lab with him as PM
It's likely as, what are you on about?

They want less Chinks.

They do want the same amount of Islanders and more refuges (we take fuck all in but give way, way too much to those we do).

oh boy

I'm glad that in the UK the choice was
>A fucking marxist
or
>Not a maxist
That made things pretty easy for me

70k a year is alot of people for a pop of 4million though, thats the region Britain wants to aim for and obviously we have ~65million
What KIND of migrants are you getting? Religion of peace? Or are they not destroying your society in every way?

Unless National is willing to fully cuck themselves and purge their ranks yeah.

I've given the thought of vandalizing Jewcinda's "Let's Do This" street ads to "Let's Tax This".

>What KIND of migrants are you getting?
Chinks and poos.

Maybe. Getting national out of power would be beneficial for the country as there might be a chance of immigration being reigned in. Labour is an unknown however and there will most likely be a a large SJW price to pay if they are in power.

>establishing a political party in the center of the political spectrum


Eco-fascism is not on the center of the political spectrum, it's on the far-fringes of the right, adopting environmentalism. Environmentalism is not just a phenomenon on the left of the political spectrum. Environmentalism was a platform in many national socialist and fascist parties of the 20th centuries.

Jews would have you believe that to be right-wing, you have to advocate for economic development at the expense of destroying the beautiful natural environment so they can empty out your country of its natural resources for every bit of shekel.

Fascists and nazis instead believe that humans should be modest and respectful in their influence on the environment so that it maintains its beauty and aesthetic. This beauty uplifts and fosters pride in the people that live in that nation. It also encourages people to share wide open spaces and parklands so they remain fit, healthy and strong.

Stop buying into Jewish framing of the political spectrum please.

Just write 我们开工吧 overtop of it. The chinks will know what's up.

Because it's not funny

whats the damage anons? any good news?

>"free" education
>
>stop selling state houses
You mean stop people from buying homes
>Remove tax loopholes
Never heard that before
>Raising mininum wage
Hurts everyone - big businesses bring in automation, small bisunesses cant afford to employ as many people

the rest is meh