If Yamcha had continued his training could he have atleast been strong enough to fight cell or buu...

If Yamcha had continued his training could he have atleast been strong enough to fight cell or buu? Or atleast be more competent in his fighting skills?

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Somehow very fitting.

Is Yamucha the definition of JUST?

No, Tenshinhan barely managed to be useful against Buu and he always got bigger gains than Yamcha and he also has the haxxed attack that is the Shin Kikoho

What if Yamucha and Son Goku had switched places?

Yamcha is always the first caw I make

>Yamcha
>Fighting Cell or Buu
Ahahaahahahaahaha yeah no. He's probably somewhere around Ginyu force level and I honestly believe Krillin or Tenshinhan who not like him even continued to train are not even Freezer level. Talking about good old Freezer here, not the shit we got today.

No because with Yamcha the problem is not the lack of power but his incompetence.

The reason he stopped training is the same reason he can't beat boo.

I don't know what to make of the fact that I know what a caw is without any context

Isn't he a baseball player? Why should he continue fighting?

No
Tien trains all the fucking time and he's barely stronger than Krillin apparently.

The point is that he, along with Yamcha are just humans, and once Super SAIYANS became a thing, there's a genetic lock out, so fuck these characters. They physically cannot become any stronger than a Saiyan, no matter how hard they try

Hell, DB Super doesn't even bother with the fucking half-breeds anymore.

We need a súper human. Is not like The humans are The same as us humans.

Krillin was strongest human with highest potential. Possibly excluding uub

Why doesn't anyone with to be stronk like san gacku?

If Bulma is so worried about her appearance, why doesn't she just ask Shenlong to make her young again?

Sounds like a good dragonball wish, the defenders of the fucking universe need more peeps so a small wish like uncapping the limitations on human power levels should be justifiable.

Wouldn't there be an issue regarding this? During the Saiyan arc, shenron is incapable of removing the saiyans Vegeta and Nappa and they were between 4k and 9k in power levels... for the humans, they must be in the hundreds of thousands maybe even in the millions, could Shelton actually make the humans stronger or even remove whatever limitations they face regarding their power limits?

Wasn't there a fan comic where Yamcha from an alternate universe became a cyborg and kicked ass?

>Shelton

I didn't notice that... stupid phone, it changes every name.

I just tried to type shenron and it changed it to both Shelton and Denton....

He can make people immortal, there is no reason why he couldn't remove the power limitations on humans. The humans would still have to make themselves stronger.

Something has always bothered me about DBZ.

>Gohan is strong enough to beat Perfect Cell
>Perfect Cell shits on the androids
>In AU, the androids destroy a Gohan that's been training for years

Well, I don't think that Gohan ascended to SSJ2. I guess.

Power levels are bullshit okay?!

I've always wondered why one of these morons have never even once thought to just wish themselves saiyan. It's the only way to keep up and Shenlongs granted dumber wishes.

Because toriyama is a moron and the fan base loves goku too much.

Create A Wrestler

I once written a story of Yamcha going to planet Namek and wishing to of become a saiya-jin who is super. I got a B-

A couple reasons. First no hyperbolic time chamber training that actually put them above the androids in that timeline. Two, I believe they were stated to be stronger and bigger assholes because Gero completed them instead of working on himself and the fat mimedroid.

Yamucha deserves his own mini saga where he redeems himself.

Why dont they just let Krillin sneak attack everyone with destructo discs?

Why doesnt anyone else even try to put that move to use? I can imagine after some training you'd be able to fucking do a barrage of the fucking things or something.

I never understood why Yamcha and the other humans did ever learn or use Kaio-ken. It seemed like a way to help them stay a little more relevant.

No we don't there are plenty of other stories were humans end up defeating or even slaving aliens, angels, demons, monsters, ancient horrors, more advanced civilization for bullshit reasons.

Earth would have been fucked the second piccolo tried to take over it.

Kienzan stopped being useful after the cell saga

cell stopped it easily and even if it had managed to hit him cell can just regenerate, same for buu

beerus at a whole other level and knows a lot of stuff about ki, he can even compress goku's kamehameha so he can obviously do the same with a kienzan

>Hey guys do you want to learn this borderline suicide technique? It hurts like hell it and burs your ki like crazy but it makes you temporally stronger.

You have to be stupid and 100% dedicated to martial arts to be interested in such a thing. The only one besides Goku that might be interest would be Tenshinhan but he already has a life risking move and he mellowed before DBZ started.

Maybe they don't want to turn into evil bastards?

All Tien did was train though all through DBZ and eve after. Plus he has an ability that allows him to copy techniques only after seeing them once. It's how he used the Kamehameha.

The only reason I've seen that sort of makes sense why humans couldn't or didn't use it was because their bodies couldn't withstand it, but that seems like a cheap excuse. Especially when they were far stronger and durable than what Goku was when he trained there first.

When Piccolo fought Gero he said that he could multiply his power in short bursts. I interpreted that to mean he learned some variation of the Kaioken that isn't visible but is less likely to destroy your body.

When Tenshinhan is training with Kaio he says something like "Just learning from him won't be enough, I'll have to put my own spin on his techniques" so it kind of fits.

Gohan was trained by his father for approximately 4 years. Goku isn't good for much but the dude is a fighting prodigy.

>Kienzan stopped being useful after the cell saga, cell stopped it easily

Not canon, that only happened in the anime. According to Toriyama himself, the kienzan cuts tru anything and bypasses ki level. Still as you said it wouldn't have been effective since Cell could just regenerate.

>Yamcha and the other humans did ever learn or use Kaio-ken.
Fuck off stop whoring out Goku's moveset to other characters let them get their own moves.

Gohan is all but useless without having someone hold his hand.

But they trained under the same master. So it would make sense they would know the same moves.

Don't care, why would anyone want to have a series where the majority of characters have the same moveset?

Also people act like Kaio-ken is easy to learn.

I wonder if he could have used residual Ki to revive after one of his many deaths.

I forgot how gigantic gokus ears were

Well all of Goku's moves are learned from other characters. They aren't really his own. I mean it isn't like the Kaio-ken was used much after Freeza anyway. So it wouldn't have stepped on Goku's toes.

Well they didn't need to master all of what King Kai taught Goku. Just the Kaio-ken. Goku could have kept the spirit bomb himself as his marquee finishing movie.

Tien is passed Freiza level.

No I mean like in terms of battle power and competency too.

I don't understand, if his race is all about transformation how could his poison spike be cheating? Is it a natural transformation or fake implant?

It was an artificial implant.

Not in his lifetime. Olibu had to be dead for hundreds of years before he could be at a lower Pikon level.

>He can make people immortal
The fact that the creator of the Dragonballs isn't immortal himself, is proof that it isn't a valid wish.

1.Grow up as an Orphan in a desert wasteland with a cat as only your friend.
2.Dream Of becoming a husband despite being terrified of women
3.Save a girl and monkey boy.
4.Move to the city for the girl you're in love with.
5.Stay loyal to her despite mistreatment.
6.Die fighting for her and Earth.
7.Girl leaves you for the guy responsible for your death.
8.Get killed multiple times despite constant training as you live in a world where race matters.
9.Douchebag "friends" show no sympathy
10.DIe alone never finding love.
11.Memory tarnished in bad fan fiction

But hey, least he never complained.

The point is that even as a kid Goku was able to do things that only expert martial artist were capable of do. Remember that Bulma headshot him in chapter one? He was bullet and fire proof since day one.

It doest matter how memorable the Goku Vs Tenshihan was. When you think about it was a battle between an short kid against a tall, buff, flying guy with three eyes. So a guy with big muscles is struggling to defeat a kid you can only assume that the adult is a pussy or the kid is an monster.

Gohan got stronger by sparring against another Goku, both as Super Saiyans, and training with the method Goku developed. Time Chamber also had increased gravity for bigger gains.

Future Gohan got neither of those things.

What bad fan fiction?

Every DBZ fanfic ever.

Bullma married Nappa?

Saibaman. Yamcha was killed by a Saibaman

You're missing the point

>Be martial arts enthusiast with deathly fear of women
>Overcome fear and become boyfriend of richest girl on the planet
>Train with greatest martial arts master
>Train with the greatest martial arts cat
>Train with god
>Train with super god
>Girlfriend breaks up with you because you're too attractive
>Sleep around
>Hang out with your weird martial arts friends every time the world is in danger

Yamcha is living the dream. He's a handsome super-powered bachelor with no responsibilities. He's close friends with the richest person in the world. He has nothing but free time, and he's not so autistic that he has to spend it all training.

According to the referee, there were clear signals of body modification.

I suppose Joe Chill didn't kill Batman's parents, it was the bullet that killed them.

Either way it was not Vegeta.

He should just wish to be an android. At least that would make him stronger than a generic super saiyan. Works pretty well for 17 and 18.

Goku wasn't really a kid then. Wasn't he like 14 or 15? Tien was only 4 years older than him.

"I wish to be as strong as goku!"

Simple as that.

Would that mean he'd get to be as strong as Goku at the time he made the wish or he will always be as strong as Goku even if he don't train himself?

ShenLong's a cunt, and won't do that.

Before you mention Dragon Ball Online, that was only for Gameplay, and the Humans were actually saiyans.

Honestly?
If DB Super made some asspulls to make Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo and Tien the new team, I'd take it. I'd take it in a heartbeat.

But no. Fuck everyone who isn't Goku and Vegeta. Everyone who isn't Goku and Vegeta, fuck them for not fighting endlessly

>Fuck off stop whoring out Goku's moveset to other characters let them get their own moves.
This series has characters stealing other people's moves all the fucking time. Goku avoids getting killed by Vegeta by using Taiyoken.
Piccolo could hearn it.

Shit, if anyone should be using it, it should be Piccolo!

>Watching a shonen even though the MC is not your favorite characters.

Are you a masochist?,

Basically this.
Yamcha is the alpha who took Bulmas V-card, enjoyed their relationship during the prime years of their lives

and

Vegeta is the beta schlub who married her and settled when she was starting to get old and her titties were first starting to sag.

That would be glorious!

>Is not fair! He suffers and his girlfriend dumped him.

I am starting to see what kind of people feel identified with Yamcha.

You think? Just look at this projection

I used to like Goku a lot.
But Super is really making him into an irresponsible jackass.

And I'm just sick and tired of Vegeta, he doesn't deserve to get his dick sucked this hard.

Don't worry, the dub will make him the noble superman you're more familiar with.

>Taiyoken
What?

Solar Flare.

>Bulma's V-card

Making a lot of assumptions there.

Damn, honestly the dub names are more fitting.

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This is how anime Goku has always acted.

That's just because you're used with it. The dub I grew up with kept the technique original names so I find the english translated names very weird and unfitting sometimes.
Not really in Solar Flare's case because it keeps the original name's idea, and sounds cool. It's a good translation for a technique.
Stuff like Special Beam Cannon, on the other hand, are just cringeworthy to me.

Yeah, but the literal translation is a mouthful, and Makankosapo is hard to pronounce.

Destructo Disk kind of works, but it's pretty cheesy.

Being a sayian dosen't matter nearly as much as people think it does. Yamcha has far surpassed raditz in every way.

I think all that dao stuff is just really overthinking it. I don't think that thecnique's name is meant to convey more that the "Sun Fist" idea. I just don't see Toriyama putting a lot of thought about martial arts phylosophy as he wrote DB.

>Solar Flare.

>What is One Piece
It's not like only the main protagonist and his "rival" have to be the only ones who can have good battles and win against major antagonists.
Hell, Brook and Franky aren't even that popular in Japan but they still get to do cool shit every now and then.
These days Dragonball just shoves the humans and other side characters into our faces just to say "Hey remember these old characters? They're still around!"

Not to mention the whole part about "I'll educate your about what a Solar Flare is so you'll see the name makes no sense" is really obnoxious. That text as a whole comes off as obnoxious.
It's more about the image the name "Solar Flare" evokes than what an actual solar flare is.

Hercules is cool.

>Bulmas V-card

im sure bulma lost her v-card even before dragon ball started

I bet if Tien got a powerup he would be rekting shit. He has a superior fighting style.

At least he has an identity outside of a realdoll wife

Now that is a serious accusation user

>Yea is just like she dumped him is more she was not good enough for him anymore man.

Nevermind they are cucks.

SameFag alert

guaren pls