In a 2014 interview, Miyazaki criticized the current state of the anime industry...

>In a 2014 interview, Miyazaki criticized the current state of the anime industry, saying that animators are not being realistic when it comes to people. According to Miyazaki, this is a problem because in order to produce content worthy of the industry, one's work must be based off lived experience and observation of people. He goes on to say that the reason why the industry is full of otaku is because anime is produced by "humans who can’t stand looking at other humans".
Is he right?

I doubt he knows much about the inner workings of the social lives of people he doesn't even personally know. He was just being a petty dick

No, it's just due to the industry producing schlock that moefags eat up especially on Sup Forums with retarded threads like "Would you do her?" rather than actually talking about anime leaving a select few shows even minutely worth looking into surrounded by seas and vast oceans of filth.

Sorry that's just my rant on the whole situation, I kinda hate Miyazaki's work but there's something definitely wrong with the new age of anime and he probably caught, or he's just a bitter old man who only likes his kind of work. Either or.

It was a very broad statement but I still like him for endorsing English dubs and putting weebshits in their place.

People are pretty simple.

>English dubs
He endorses accurate English dubs.

Hes right, and Sup Forums is butthurt about it.

I love how otakus in general respond to his criticism. You can feel the conflict when you see that they just can't say he's shit, but they definitely don't agree with him because he's basically telling them that their taste is shit, so they come with phrases like "I don't personally like his work" or "I think he's taking things out of context".
Based Miyazaki. Giving no fucks about the hordes of tasteless otakus.

Miyazaki is no different from the rest of the anime industry he criticizes.

All of his movies are populated by the same archetype characters:
- Genki lolicon fantasy preteen that satisfies his personal tastes
- Strong older woman who provides maternal support
- Younger male who has some romantic interest in the girl

It's the same copy/paste story building that populates the all those identical school battle love comedies that he hates.

The only difference is he gets to make stories that fit his own preferences, no the preferences of the consumers.

It's a good example of what and said.

I like his films a lot, but he just comes off as a pretentious, bitter asshole who cant accept that the industry will never be what he wants it to be.

Do you?

>makes the argument about the industry being filled with delusional otakus who doesn't make the effort to portrait any real human traits and prefer cute girls doing cute things because they're a bunch of insecure virgins
>somehow that's a bad thing which makes him a bitter, pretentious asshole
Have you ever entertained the thought that perhaps the industry is fucked up?

But then he says something idiotic like

>Miyazaki also expressed his opinion about the terrorist attack at the offices of the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo and gave his opinion about the magazine's decision to publish the content cited as the trigger for the incident. He said, "I think it's a mistake to caricaturize the figures venerated by another culture. You shouldn't do it." He asserts, "Instead of doing something like that, you should first make caricatures of your own country's politicians."

Don't make fun of the muzzies guys, you should only criticize your own culture, not the ones that mutilate gentiles and kill their wives.

> Play stupid games get stupid prizes

>if his opinions about free speech and terrorism aren't spot on then his opinions about the japanese anime industry, in which he has been working his entire life, aren't spot on either
Nice reasoning there, buddy.

I actually agree with what he said in the OP.

With that said, he's an idiot because of his opinions on free speech.

Well hes still attributing a cultural problem to anime like some dumb news fundie. If anime is produced for people who hate looking at humans and there is a substantial world wide market of these people who hate looking at humans in the post industrial world. Then it is hardly animes fault for exploiting it, rather a symptom of modern living.

He's right though. Making fun of someone isn't restricted, but that doesn't mean they won't punch your lights out for talking shit.

There's nothing wrong with modern anime. Anime today is better than ever.

Read what he says you idiot.

>"I think it's a mistake to caricaturize the figures venerated by another culture."

If you agree with this, your opinion is utterly worthless.

When will this faggot die already so we can forget about his meme quote?

Violent responses to speech are done by barbaric cultures who should be culled, not respected or appreciated.

Nice opinion there little jimmy. What presents did you get for your 13th birthday last week?

So your free speech should be limited by the violent reactions of others?

Thats the opposite of what he said. Anime didnt make otaku but otaku made anime shit

He's completely right and everyone knows it.
Your favorite anime is shit but you prefer to watch that comfy but pointless shit that makes you feel warm and fuzzy than watching something that actually makes you think.

>this thread
>>>/MAL/
>>>/reddit/
>>>/ANN/
>>>/Tvtropes/

think mr. anime will live to his 100's?

I can picture this old man still ranting on about how modern anime sucks way into the far future and still somehow be alive.

The people are realistic. Anyone can be anyone. The problem is the interactions and reactions. For example, when someone does dumb shit, they will shrug it off and make it a joke when in reality someone would be like "Is this guy fucking serious? What a dumbass. Is he autistic?" Which is why you see these "Is X autistic" threads all the fucking time.

It's the same shit as ever, more like.

Their violent reactions are already limited. Murder is already illegal, but just because it's illegal doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

> Talk shit about an icon venerated by religious extremists that are known to behead people on the internet
> Don't expect repercussions

Nobody said they should be respected or appreciated, but this is akin to visiting slapping a bull and then expecting to get away with it by waving a piece of paper in front of their face.

I personally don't like moeshit however anime nowadays is more popular than before
:^)

Miyazaki is still salty that he'll never be as good of a director as Takahata. He'll die being salty about it.

>being realistic

Neither were his characters.

I watched spirited away earlier today and it was pretty good I liked it a lot

Fuck off Sup Forums.

It's more akin to teasing a bull and not putting it down because of animal rights activists as it gores innocent civilians.

>muh free speech

Calling the genocide of Muslims doesn't sound like freedom to me.

Oh hey, it's edgelord fag

Just because you turned 18 doesn't mean you aren't a newfag, newfag. You still need to earn your user card and quit being a pent up fucked cunt of an eager to prove bitch.

Now get the fuck out of your high seat and get to crawling.

This.

>mr Popo

>- Genki lolicon fantasy preteen that satisfies his personal tastes
Well his tastes aren't that bad.

Miyazaki's not really wrong; 99.99% of anime these days is absolute trash, and the stuff that isn't is still usually pretty flawed. All the good manga have been animated already, which is why we're mostly getting cookie cutter crap, LN based stuff, remakes and shoddy originals. Long running series are usually no better since they're mostly kids shows, save a one or two good exceptions. The best shows are usually those based off good manga, and the difference in the rate of production of new manga and anime seasons ensures that the seasons that get a truly excellent show (good writing, animation, voice acting, pacing & proper adaptation) are few and far between.

He made some good films but he's just a bitter old man now. He acts like he has a pedestal to stand on when in reality he's hasn't pushed the medium forward at all since the 90's. The fact that Kon died and not this guy is one of the greatest tragedies of the anime industry.

>All the good manga have been animated already
Your weak powerlevel is showing.

Out of touch? I'm sorry Miyazaki, have you ever been outside of that fucking snotwipe small of a country you live in? No, outside of your fucking house, rather.

I get your nation has shit problems but don't get all asshurt on us when your society is built upon school mommas and attempting to recapture the economic glory of the late 1980's all while it turns kids apathetic about life and when nobody in Japan really even likes anime (that shit is fact, everyone loves Disney overseas) other than nerds and outcasts.

Best of all, what did you do with your career while you rode the high life?

Your successor died, your sons can't compare, and Only Yesterday is the examples of what kind of garbage your studio will be making if you can't get your shit together, you fucktard green tree hugging hippie.

Fuck, YOU.

He also said to think about criticizing your own culture before taking shit about others. It's more like "Remove the log in your eye before telling others to remove the speck in theirs" than "oh don't ever say anything about muslins".

>Being this mad he got told he's enjoying his medium incorrectly

There is an incorrect way to enjoy mongolian moving pictures?

Most manga that people think is brilliant would not translate to anime well at all.

That's not my tears, shitwipe. That's my piss. Do you enjoy it, you greentexting pussyfoot empty shell of a human being?

Yeah, whatever the way you're enjoying it now is the incorrect method to enjoy Siamese slideshows.

Otaku loved anime. Then the Otaku become the anime creators.

Otaku are not people.

With animation, you are quite literally able to creatively express an infinite variety of stories and images, including those whose premises and characterizations aren't commonly (or else at all) instantiated in reality. And you want to use it... to copy exactly what's already there.
Brilliant.

>Most manga that people think is brilliant would not translate to anime well at all.
That's because good directors are rare.

I for one welcome the current state of anime
the shit anime comes and goes, but good anime still springs up, it just isn't the same kind of anime as in the 20th century. And this is for the better, new ideas and concepts must always grow in order that the industry not become stale because it tried not to change.

The real world's shit man.

Tonight's Sup Forums is like the unholy spawn of when dudebro anime hardcores meets self hating weeaboo high school teenagers when their forums go down during the summer.

Not that I have a problem with it. It's not like anyone's going to Japanland anytime soon to do anything about what they're bitching about.

Who cares? Miyazaki made glorified western cartoon movies under the guise of anime. Normalfags always think any cartoon made by Japan is anime. Miyazaki has no say on anime. If it's no moe, it's not anime.

had a good chuckle, thanks mate

totally legit

I go there every Comiket though.

>good anime still springs up

Name one this season.

Avatar is my fav anime bro.

This argument always boils down to normals being upset it doesn't rehash and pander to their tastes instead of the current audience

So, a friday then.

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Miyasaki criticizing the industry is nothing new though. He was bitter before he got old.

Normals? I thought normals were faggots that don't like anime and just come to Sup Forums to fuck with people

No they're people on non anime boards like /o/.

/o/ is anime though.

He isn't really wrong.
I like moe SoL and I don't mind characters being unrealistic there, but when I watch something with serious plot or drama themed, I prefer characters to resemble a bit of human behaviour, because I can't empathise with them otherwise.
I doubt you will deny that when some random battle harem tries to be serious it ends up being really bad because characters are nothing but a bunch of overused cliches

Yeah, didn't he flip his shit over doujinshi in the 1990's about his work?

Macross Delta

I feel like if you took the zaniness of anime that comes from fantasy garbage whether it be living in a gaming world or being surrounded by 5 hot girls, we'd lose most of why watching anime is even fun.

Would things have been different if he had a prodigy pupil/team?

>No, it's just due to the industry producing schlock that moefags eat up especially on Sup Forums with retarded threads like "Would you do her?"
The creators talk like that, though.

>Your favorite anime is shit but you prefer to watch that comfy but pointless shit that makes you feel warm and fuzzy than watching something that actually makes you think.
I honestly feel good that this isn't the case. I'm really excited about joining a community of artists who take criticism seriously, like Miyazaki and Alan Moore, and I'm pumped to push people to improve themselves in that way.

Based Miyazaki and his studio keeping that pastoral magic alive.

Holy shit kill yourself blogging faggot

Haikyuu seems to use a lot of real-world references in its work. Though I'm not much a fan, it warms my heart to see that.

He's been to europe a bunch of times to get inspiration for his movies.
Kiki's delivery service is heavily inspired by the architecture of Stockholm and Visby while Laputa took inspiration from the industrial communities of Britain.

The problem is that people ARE trying to do "life" and are doing it badly.

He's right in the sense of how anime as an art form has fallen.
He's wrong in the sense that anime is still an industry that exists for the financial benefit of those who work in it, and they produce what people buy.

As far as not portraying people realistically or whatever that's just fucking retarded. Most anime tell fantastical stories that could never actually occur, sometimes it turns out well, most of the time the failings of the writers creates issues in the quality and the depth of the characters, this is usually seen as a lack of talent on the writers part in other industries such as fictional novels.

Miyazaki in this case is just being bitter because he sees himself as a foundational architect of anime, and it obviously frustrates him that anime has become more heavily populated by people who aren't performing at his level. Rather than considering this an effect of the industry being easier to access and the spread of cheaper computerized mediums that allow for more room for error as well as enabling a wider spread of content through both legal and illegal mediums which increases the funding for the industry resulting in significantly more production since costs went down and funding went up, He seems to attribute it to people in the industry essentially lacking the personal experience to give their characters and stories the depth they need to create impactful stories.

I'm not saying that this isn't at least partially correct, but it is a small part of a much larger set of events leading to what we know as anime today compared to when Miyazaki would have been making his mark.

TL;DR Using a single quote to sum up how different the anime industry is today in comparison to Miyazaki's time is stupid, and if Miyazaki really thinks that anime is objectively worse now just because of Otaku's then he's stupid.

>mutilate gentiles

I like that there are so many good critics out there despite artists fighting against that noble pursuit. I get this impression from my own experience as an artist.
Blog where?

He looks like the fucking jap version of Colonel Sanders from KFC

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Miyazaki is basically talking about how animators need to observe people to be able to draw them, and that the industry is full of otaku who don't like doing that. He's not complaining about the state of anime in general.

Sorta.

The real issues with the anime industry have been around for decades and include:

1) Dispersed talent across a multitude of studios, ultimately watering down most projects.
2) Japan's shitty economy, which has hammered in two decades worth of conservative business practices into management
3) An increasingly shrinking target audience on which to draw (Otaku aged 25+)
4) Outdated advertising practices and perverse merchandizing incentives that negatively impact storytelling
5) Fucked up production schedules and general slavelike pay and working conditions

What is the best Miyazaki movie?

He's hack and a pedo
Nobody gives a shit about what this old fart thinks

Beauty and the Beast

Fucking this
This faggot is no different
And he's the biggest hack ever who hasn't changed his art style since the days of Heidi

Somebody's cereal got shat on this morning.

Nothing Miyazaki ever produced made me think...unless you count "is Miyazaki a pedo?" thinking

>Comparing Miyazaki's shit to Glorious Western Cartoons
Kill yourself heathen

Miyazaki's shit is some of the most soulless garbage I've ever seen in my life

>Alan Moore
lol