FASCISM is a form of SOCIALISM

As you can see from this more accurate political spectrum, facism belong and is in fact on the far left.

Fascism is a form of socialism.
Communism is a form of socialism.

In general, Communism kills or exiles the wealthy bourgeois where Fascism finds it more efficient to leave the wealthy bourgeois in control of the factories and controls them instead.

NAZI literally means National Socialist German Workers Party. Hitler SOCIALIZED Germany.

Nobody really had any private property rights in Nazi Germany. People were scared as fuck of the Hitler regime because they had to total power.

I cringe every time a normie tells me fascism is right wing extremist. How the fuck could you have extreme socialism on the right, but then extreme socialism on the left? Both are near or at 100% government control over everything.

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Your chart is wrong and your post is a bunch of inane drivel. Your opinions aren't useful or valuable so fuck off.

>Fascism is a form of socialism
wrong you stupid faggot, its an ideology.

>doesnt know why Hitler had adopt National Socialism
>doesn't understand WWI and its political fallout on Germany

FUCK OFF YOU STUPID FOX NEWS "le nazis are liberal XD and antifa de real facsists XDD" NIGGER. YOU SOUND LIKE A BOOMER FUCKING MORON WITH A TYPICAL KIKE EDUCATION

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Nice argument. Fascism is still socialist and is a far left political system.

Politics is a triangle, not a line.

Aww, you mad because the truth shattered your already solidified worldview? Don't worry, just keep telling yourself I'm wrong.

Tomorrow from OP
'Arseholes are a form of vagina'

>because the political spectrum can be simplified down to a line
kys

If right is left and left is left what's left for up, is it down or inside out?
My belly button is an inny
What's yours?

>authoritarianism is the only qualification for tyranny
truly the spoiled child's political compass, when being told what to do at all is the greatest cruelty

Could have shortened that post to
>I'm wrong

If I draw a map that shows a route to Narnia does it become a real place?

listen faggot you are conflating two entirely different political spectrums

Left and Right or Liberal/Conservative come from the French Revolution where those who wanted to preserve the current order broke off to the right side of the room and those who wanted to dismantle the current government went off to the left. this is before fascims or communism where even ideas

the OTHER spectrum is the Communist --- Fascist spectrum on the one end you have Total government control to oversee that resources are distributed to the masses in Communism and the other you have total government control to consolidate resources to the state. the middle you have 0 control and that is where anarchy comes into play

>it's another laffypole makes a stupid thread and gets btfo within five seconds because literally everyone under the sun is aware of the dirty little secret that Marxian Socialists want to collectivize private property

Change the anarchy sign to McDonalds arches and the mob rule pic to isis, and then it'd be far more accurate.

Let me simplify this for you babby: all political ideologies can be set on a scale that measures the amount of direct government control over the society.

You may have encountered a scale at some point in your life. When you saw it, you saw it measured between two extremes such as 0-350lbs.

The same is true here young babby, except now we're measuring 0% government contro (anarchy)l vs 100% government control (communism). No political system can ever achieve beyond 100% total control over a society. Anarchy takes 0% because thats just what it is, a total lack of government.

Urragh!
Someone's smeared poo on the board

So by your stupid chart, Louis XIV was a leftist?

>anti egalitarian
>entirely based around hierarchy
"fascism is left wing"

lol
Stop posting here, Sargon.

>The two extremes of weight... 0 and 350 lbs
Hahahahahaha
Now say bwekfast

Fascism is Nationalism. Nationalism means loving and caring for the men and women of your nation. Socialism means being willing to work and toil for the well being of your Race (Nation).

If caring for my brothers and sisters makes me a dirty Socialist. Then I am a SOCIALIST!

LONG LIVE NATIONALISM!

LONG LIVE SOCIALISM!

Sup Forums puts Incorrect in Politically Incorrect way too often.

Duh... and I thought I was gunna win
Dah George can I tend da wabbits

>using one dimension for political ideologies

What exactly is "strength"? Strength of what? Military? Economy? Physical strength of its citizens? Every political ideology thinks they are promoting "strength" but in different ways. Also unity in what sense? Doesn't communism also promote unity through the working class or some garbage? This just seems retarded.

Here's the real horseshoe, btw.

Yes, and?

Americans don't understand what left and right are, you confuse the economical with the social aspect

Communism is indeed left wing but economical left wing, there are some communist governments who are left wing in the social aspect, see trotskyism, and right wing, see stalinism

Same with populism, you have left wing and right wing
Same with anarchy, a completely sindicalist nation would be left wing, but a neo-liberal is right wing; and bot tend to anarchy

The political spectrum isn't based on freedom vs government. Your entire post reeks of boomer.

And you put your finger up your ass far to often

Feels good, man

Socialism is the stepping stone to communism, communism does not have private property, everything is collectivized. It does not matter if you are an AnCom or a Soviet-style communist. It makes no difference, this is an immutable feature of communism. Anybody calling themselves a Marxist is a communist, and Marxian Socialism is merely a transitional phase between capitalism and communism (in their minds). This is absolutely correct, and is word for word what you laffypole retards state in every thread about the topic. You are not fooling anyone by pretending to backpedal in this issue you fucking retard.

Objectively true. The commies and fascists have got to lie about there close relationship because it hurts their feelings. Sometimes brothers fight the bitterest.

kek

And finger poo

Wow couldn't be more braindead there friend. Caring for your brothers and sisters does not mean a tyrannical authoritarian regime ruling every aspect of society with an iron fist. I don't care what reason you say its for, I'm still going to call it what it is: a tyranny.

Most of human history is filled with dictatorial regimes that ruled with an iron fist and in every single case the common person always suffered greatly.

Strength of the nation.

>Doesn't communism also promote unity through the working class or some garbage?
They pit the working class against the capitalists, which is division and not unity. Fascism seeks to unite the capitalists and the working class under the nation.

Stupid nazis always go like "we're not socialist we were only pretending" "national (((socialism))) is not really (((socialism))) It's super duper special meth head hitler (((socialism)))".

I mean it's in the freaking name.

Look at that spacing

Anarchy is closer to communism than nazis. You're confusing a bunch of separate things and then comparing them all.
Roads.

Government in general is a form of socialism. Anything other than 100% pure anarchial libertarianist hunter gathering is socialism. Stop being such a faggot

Just a PSA really. In highschool in north America the pic related is taught. It is inaccurate and confuses more than it explains anything. In reality the more right wing you go the less government you want until you advocate for a total absence of government which, just like total government (communism) will never work.

I refer you to this, faggot.

Where would you say absolute monarchists sit on the political spectrum?

Fascists are cuckolds, we know.

>Be Libertarian
>Have Daughter
>Daughter starts dating Black guy
>Becomes a Pornographer
>Becomes a literal whore
>gets addicted to Heroin
>46 years old sucking dicks on the side of the road for a 5 dollar hit of smack
>"It's her choice, isn't freedom great lads"

Kill the Libertarian wherever you may find him.

You clearly have no idea.

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Kike

>lemme fit all different combinations of policies on a straight line

No party is "left" or "right", these concepts are stupid.
They have some policies that trend towards individual freedom, some towards collective security, etc.
If you think that a single word like "freedom" can determine each and every policy in your state and be used as root of every law, you are retarded.

>muh freedom to shit on the street
>muh freedom to murder and eat people
>muh freedom to fuck my children

The word "strength" is still being used pretty vaguely. Also, I'm not really too familiar with communist ideology, but isn't the basic idea that there's some retarded revolution of workers and capitalists, and afterwards it's an eternal utopia of everyone being equal in unity and holding hands?

Left Wing = Collective > Individual
Right Wing = Individual > Collective

Fascism derives from the Italian word for a bundle of sticks therefore

Fascism = Collective

therefore

Fascism = Left

"Democracy is indispensable to socialism." - Vladimir Lenin

Lenin understood actual democracy evolves into Socialism, and Socialism always leads to Communism.

>Equality&Safety
>Communism/Socialism
Choose one.

Everything could be considered socialism, if everyone accepts it.

>In reality the more right wing you go the less government you want until you advocate for a total absence of government
You know that's not true right? The original term comes from the French (around the revolution era I think), the right are traditionalists and groups that believe in hierarchy and the left are revolutionists/egalitarians.

How does it feel being so wrong?

>a bundle of sticks
Also known as a faggot

Nah, Hitler himself lamented the word "socialism" in National Socialism, because it couldn't be any more divorced from Marxism.

I think he said that, if he could go back, he would have renamed it the "Social Revolutionary" party.

First, stop dividing
Second. What is the problem with Socialism

Instead of spacing use your brain
It's the little things that count

>The word "strength" is still being used pretty vaguely
Think of it as relative to other nations. For example, while free trade does strengthen the economy thanks to comparative advantage, it also gives the other nations leverage over your economy, so a fascist nation would not have free trade with nations that are hostile to it.

>Also, I'm not really too familiar with communist ideology, but isn't the basic idea that there's some retarded revolution of workers and capitalists, and afterwards it's an eternal utopia of everyone being equal in unity and holding hands?
Yes, but that's after you've killed off all the capitalists. I guess in the end you have unity, but Marxist socialism has never gotten that far so they've always remain focused on the class division part.

> In reality the more right wing you go the less government you want until you advocate for a total absence of government which, just like total government (communism) will never work.

You're laughably wrong, and speaking from a place of utter ignorance. Go look up where the terms left and right actually come from in regards to politics.

The term "right" absolutely not is synonymous with small government. Not in any way, shape, or form. The minuscule realm of mainstream American politics is not the entirety of the political spectrum, and the notions of authoritarianism or libertarianism do not factor in at all.
The left v right spectrum describes one singular thing. One paradigm, and that is anarchy v hierarchy.

Monarchism is extremely right wing, far more than any Conservative government in US history.

Wew lad you have anarchism and fascism in the wrong place.

>democracy evolves into Socialism, and Socialism always leads to Communism.

This is the Marxist theory, yes. But you need to understand that the Marxists use an a priori method of analyzing the world. They presume a conclusion, and work backwards. This is why their interpretation of current events and geopolitics is in general wildly inaccurate.

The problem is, that socialism will only work for white people because we're better, and more evolved.

> Socialists want to collectivize private property
Just like nazis and fascists.
Only difference is, communists will collectivize everything down to toothbrush and your wife, while nazis and fascists will collectivize only medium and large business, letting small/home segment staying private.

>liberal on the side of tyranny
>conservative on the side of liberty
that's not how it works

people need to stop trying to make politics one dimensional

You idiot.

Socialists trust the government more then the family. Families are patriarchic structures. Families can collect wealth and cause systematic injustice.

No you should care about what your sister is doing, the government will look out for her, no you don't need to worry about your parents, the government will spoon feed them and wash them for you. Your family is not your friend, not in socialism.
Right wing values, meaning less government, means you need to look after you family.

>Right Wing Values

enjoy your gay tranny pulse nighclub

Your scale is wrong so your conclusion is wrong.

means faggots can only be faggots at home.

>Just like nazis and fascists.

They nationalized certain private enterprises like the central bank, but the citizens could buy and sell land or run companies for profit. Communists are anti-property in general. I understand this is what you more or less said but I thought I should clarify that there is a difference between turning certain specific enterprises into a public utility, and being against private property.

People like OP need to realize that they're actually more left than they like to admit, but only claim to be right because they like that brand of PR better.

>memeflag

Enjoy being a retard

Fucking idiot commies in this thread
Didn't realise they were saying they were fascists until they read this post
Hahahahahahahaha! Now get out.

Well at least you've got the autism spectrum right.
Why are you trying to divide us? Let the "right" work together to fix what's currently wrong with the world (Marxists/"True" Communists)

>while nazis and fascists will collectivize only medium and large business
Collectivize is a strong word, they are made to serve the interests of the nation but they still remain in private hands to retain the efficiency that competition provides. Kind of like the Military Industrial Complex, if they weren't allowed to bribe our politicians.

Swiss flag
Enjoy being a gnome
Literally Jews

The interaction between the MIC and the US gov't is hilarious. Nobody in the US regime bats an eye when Lockheed-Martin spends 5x over budget on R&D because it's not their money and they're probably trading in Lockheed-Martin stocks on their down time anyway

The plotline OP posted was an older model, which maps authoritarianism. The problem is 1D lines are most often not labeled, so most people assume it's "right vs left", when that's a newer term to describe the right and left wing dichotomy.

>more meme flags

I can only imagine the shithole you're posting from

According to his logic it's far left. Like a good simple minded American he only can think under binary terms.

>a newer term
nigger, right vs left goes back to the french revolution

This is the reason why the US is a Constitutional Republic and why we have an Electoral College. It is the only country in the world that is organized this way. Only Japan is similar because we forced their constitution after WW2.
2 against a sea of idiots and fuckery.

fascism is a reactionary ideology to communism
anarcho capitalism is closer to communism than fascism
op is a double nigger

You've shown no evidence of that.
I can imagine Narnia but you are still a (((gnome)))

>a newer term
Not a great choice of words, I'll cede that, but you get the idea. OP's pic is accurate for what it measures, which is authoritarianism.

He doesn't respond because he knows this and he's shitposting.

That's actually not an argument, even if i disagree with OP

>The left v right spectrum describes one singular thing. One paradigm, and that is anarchy v hierarchy.

So communism with it's workers sitting under local organisers sitting under government officials sitting under party leaders sitting under the party leader is therefore right wing while a minimal government libertarian system is left wing?

You know Marx was a Jew, right?

Look at that arugment

Far left for sure, I mean think about it. If ultra-left is 100% control, an absolute monarch is not far off from communist style control. Instead of a political committee its just one man.

>Be 25
>Become nazi because you couldn't get laid
>Its not your fault, its niggers
>Yeah fuck X race they're ruining my race
>Suddenly you're not responsible for your own failures, its everyone elses fault (or the system)

Anarchy today means an absence of the state. Don't know what else to tell ya buddy.

Even if it weren't named that, the results of his policies would still be socialist. The name is just icing on the cake really to drive it in to deluded facsists.

The problem with socialism is everything. Ultimately property is owned by the community and not the individuals. It dates back thousands of years. Read Plato's The Republic. In it Socrates builds a theoretical city where everyone is everyone elses brother, mother, sister, son etc. Everyone belongs to each other. In essence socialism goes directly against observable human nature: that is self-interest, self-survival, personal accumulation of resources etc. Man by nature is a very self-interested individual. It is only to produce & offspring that man evolved into tribal culture which forced him to work with other small families to increase survival. But it was always self interest. One cave-family patriarch didn't really give a fuck if other tribe patriarchs died insofar as to how it would affect his own and his own familys survival.

Socialism goes against all this and says actually human nature says the group and the tribe is the primary focus. Just not the case.

That's not an argument either
Communism is reactionary to not communism
Political terms are just bollocks aren't they?
Everything is a reaction to something

fascism is statism dumbfuck. in terms of economics, nazis were socialists, but "national" socialists as opposed to international socialism subscribed by marx

I use right and left wing loosely in accordance with the original OP picture. I don't really give a ratfuck of the origin of the actual term. Right Wing means to the right from the center of the line in the OP pic.

It's not a collectivist-individualist spectrum, it's an egalitarian-hierarchical spectrum.

>observable human nature: that is self-interest, self-survival, personal accumulation of resources

literally nigger-tier

Stalin was also a nationalist
The American founding fathers were nationalists

Nationalism has nothing to do with whether you support free-market capitalism or centrally controlled economy (socialism/communism)

govcuck needs big brother to help him be a good person
no better than globalists