Can someone give me a good non-religious argument against it? Haven't really heard any good one.
Arguments for being against homosexuality
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Why does it matter what faggots do? You even said it yourself, the rational position in homosexuality is to not give a fuck and let people do whatever shit they want. You are acting like are christkike by being actively against something for NO RATIONAL reason
>non-religious argument against it?
i'm not into dudes.
that's my personal reason for not being gay.
be gay amongst yourselves as much as you like, but I am strongly against gay couples raising children
Yes, I agree with you. It's just that most of the board is fucking stupid and I want to see if there is any rationality behind it, as twisted as it may be.
Homosexuals are more prone to mental health problems, STDs, and domestic violence.
It is a deeply unhealthy lifestyle that shouldn't be normalised and enabled.
There literally isn't one.
Homosexuality is perfectly fine. Embrace your inner faggot.
TBQH, I dislike blatant faggotry but not gay people, act like a normal upstanding guy or gall, don't act like a stereotype, don't be a whiny bitchboy/bitchgal and I don't care much.
Im catholic and what not but I realize that while its dumb as fuck for gay people to indulge illogical sex appeal to non breeding things, that I cant change their minds, I never will and I wont be able to deny their movement since people as a whole get their lives ruined for oposing these sorts of things, much less here, but still.
My arguments would at best be that it really aint logical on a biological standpoint to fuck a dude as a guy, or try to fuck a girl as a girl, that the verry blatant alpha beta dynamic is beyond obvious there and that it might be a sign that something isnt quite right or just that the gays and lgb whatever tend to be batshit insane. Not all of em, but a lot of em, and encouraging it might backfire and establish a a-okay mentality to what likely isnt logical or natural, inb4 gays use ducks, a notoriously rapey and fucked in the head animal or other animals drenched in mating hormones to explain how its totaly normal because dumb wild animals with no culture do it.
where do you draw your line at people doing whatever they want, goyim?
this
also no marriage or tax breaks from marriage because marriage is a religious institution or a government program to foster children in healthy living arrangements.
can you give a good non-religions argument for it?
Aids and gibs.
Well, I think that people should have the right to do whatever they want if they are not doing anything prejudicial to others. If a guy wants to fuck a guy that wants to be fucked by a guy, I see nothing wrong with it.
I voted no because people were harassing me to vote yes.
If it goes through it will be interesting to see what kids will be like in a few generations.
It literally goes against the laws of biology. They are mentally ill and while I shouldn't give a fuck what these idiots are up to, I am forced to pick a side. Every day, they push more and more for "acceptance". Kids in school are being encouraged to come out as gay and genderless. Trannys running around demanding they shit next to 9-year-old girls. Children being adopted by faggots who bring them up as degenerates, that's if they don't molest them first.
Fuck that shit. Gas chambers for everybody.
I see nothing wrong with it either as long as I don't get punished for my prejudices about gays being pedophiles at a rate much higher than straight folks.
I also should be able to tell my children it's not normal and to watch out for gays because they may or may not be rapists.
I should also be able to not hire gays if I choose not to for no other reason than I don't want to employ them.
I also believe that they shouldn't get married or be allowed to adopt children and that those children should be given to homes with more nuclear families.
There is literally nothing wrong with being gay.
There is literally nothing wrong with being prejudiced and allowing freedom of association.
What is your limit for that user?
If its non harmful, would a full blown orgy of people at a mall be accepted? Would you condone acts of what most people would consider grotesque or horrific mutilation if both parties are in full agreement in a public space seeing as it is non harmfull? Would public beastiality, degradation and so on be permitted because it is non harmfull to the ones around them?
You see nothing wrong in closed doors but what about public? Do you condone the pride parades that are essentially just people dressing like hookers half naked, showing off since it doesn't harm anyone?
1. Science can't prove it's an immutable characteristic.
2. Homosexuals have more STDs which hurt everyone in the environment around us.
3. Children being raised by homosexuals have more problems.
4. The Slippery Slope: Allowing one degeneracy makes it harder to disallow more degeneracy.
5. Confusion: Increasing variables in a society (which usually isn't natural irrespective of some animals showing some homosexual behavior) only leads to complexity. Complexity often leads to problems
5. The glorification of mental disabilities.
>goyim
says the idiot who wants to control everything people should be able to do whatever shit they want I don't give a fuck
step aside fagets, it was thoroughly researched
Here's my reason: it's gay
It's a mental disease that spreads pestilence. The only sensible solution is in the Bible. All faggots should be put to death.
Unnecessary
>People have been cured of it and lived functional fulfilling lives.
Harmful to self
>homosexuals are the number one at risk group for STDs
Harmful to partners
>homosexuals are much more likely to be promiscuous and only 15% of them report showing fidelity in a relationship
Harmful to wider society
>It's strongly correlated with paedophillia.
>not knowing that our sun is a pulsar and only shines light in a cone shape on certain parts of the earth at one time
lmaoing at your life.
Well, I think there should be a sort of common sense regarding public spaces and what others are or are not comfortable with. I don't think there is anything wrong with a gay orgy behind closed doors tho.
About the parades, I think they are mostly stupid and don't really make any kind of progress, but people should have the right to do them.
Homosexuality is literally a mental illness, and has been proven to be multiple times. Why the fuck aren't we locking those kind of people up in some mental ward where they belong? All they do is trying to convert straight people into becoming gay. This is worse than goddamn sandniggers coming to europe
Because liberalism is normalizing illnesses.
I worked at a Casino where Gays, Lesbians and Trans people were. Not one Lesbian didn't have some form of Mental issue. The Gays were caricatures. And ALL Traps were suicidal.
that's kinda tl;dr for me
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hairy turds on your cock?
If the name of this discord isnt Rohmance you messed up
go home sissy - and get Aids. Anarchist? You loose first in anarchy.
1- No procriation, no rise in population
2-Since they dont have children they save less money which is technically bad for economic advance
3-Sexually promiscuous, contact with gay people make children sexualised in an earlier age (which is bad)
4-Anal sex and promiscuity, more likely to spread aids
5-Gays overrepresented on pedophilia statistics and some of them are actually victims of it
Statistics on gays and marriage:
Netherlands gay divorce rate comparable to heterosexuals:
AMSTERDAM, Netherlands — According to statistics released by the Dutch government on Monday, the divorce rate of gay and lesbian couples in the Netherlands, where same-sex marriage has been legal since 2001, is nearly identical to that of heterosexual couples.
Of the 5,751 same-sex marriages performed between April 2001 and December 2003, approximately 1-percent, or 63 couples, ended in divorce. During the same period, 243,000 heterosexual couples were married, with 2,800 filing for divorce.
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STDs in homosexuals:
Partners National Survey of Lesbian & Gay Couples 1988:
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The study, titled “Choices: Perspectives of Younger Gay Men on Monogamy, Non-monogamy and Marriage,” was conduced by researchersBlake Spears and Lanz Lowen. They surveyed over 800 single, monogamously-coupled, and non-monogamously coupled gay menages 18-40 years about their relationships. A handful of “monogamish” men were also interviewed.
“The most striking finding of this study is younger gay men’s greater inclination toward monogamy,” the researchers report. “We see this in the overwhelming number of relationships that are monogamous (86percent). In addition, 90percentof the single younger gay men were seeking monogamy. This is a sea change compared to older generations of gay men.”
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7% of millennials are gay:
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Millennials draw no distinctions between discrimination protections that should be afforded gay and lesbian people, on the one hand, and transgender people on the other. More than seven in ten (73%) millennials support legal protections against discrimination in jobs, public accommodations, and housing for gay and lesbian people. A nearly identical number (72%) of millennials say they favor these same protections for transgender people.
While no significant racial or gender differences exist on either question, there are large religious divides in support for expanding nondiscrimination legislation. Roughly eight in ten black Protestant (80%), white Catholic (82%), Hispanic Catholic (81%), religiously unaffiliated (83%), and white mainline Protestant millennials (78%) favor laws that would protect gay and lesbian people against discrimination in jobs, public accommodations, and housing. About two-thirds (66%) of Hispanic Protestant millennials also favor such laws. White evangelical Protestants are closely divided on this issue, with a slim majority (51%) favoring laws that would protect gay and lesbian people against discrimination, and 47% opposing them. Among religious groups, the pattern of opinion about non-discrimination legislation protecting transgender individuals is nearly identical.
A majority of Americans support publicly open commercial vendors being required to serve gay customers:
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I like the idea of amending the 1964 Civil Rights Act to include a ban of discrimination based on sexual orientation. It would be simple. It would be straightforward. We don’t need to rewrite the laws currently on the books, although I do think we need to address hate-crimes legislation. But amending the Civil Rights Act would grant the same protection to gay people that we give to other Americans — it’s only fair.
-Donald Trump
Heterosexual men are aroused by gay porn more than homosexual men are by females in porn:
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Science on gays as parents:
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www.asanet.org/documents/ASA/pdfs/12-144_307_Amicus_%20(C_%20Gottlieb)_ASA_Same-Sex_Marriage.pdf
Farr, R. H. (2017). Does parental sexual orientation matter? A longitudinal follow-up of adoptive families with school-age children. Developmental Psychology, 53(2), 252-264.
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How Does the Gender of Parents Matter?
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Australia gay parenting survey:
Genetic Evidence of Homosexuality:
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doi: 10.1038/ng1195-248
doi: 10.1017/S0033291714002451
Hamer 1993:
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Straight males carry gay genes:
Fecundity increases in female relatives of male homosexuals:
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Scientists find DNA differences between gay men and their straight twin brothers:
A novel predictive model of sexual orientation using epigenetic markers.
Authors: T. C. Ngun [1]; W. Guo [2]; N. M. Ghahramani [3]; K. Purkayastha [1]; D. Conn [4]; F. J. Sanchez [5]; S. Bocklandt [1]; M. Zhang [2,6]; C. M. Ramirez [4]; M. Pellegrini [7]; E. Vilain [1]
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Female relatives of gay men have 1.3x as many children:
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Androgen receptor gene linked to XQ28
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The benefits of gay marriage:
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A majority (37) states had already legalized gay marriage when the Supreme Court decided to legalize it:
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HIV information:
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White gays experience a dramatic decline in new HIV infections:
We don’t know who Patient Zero for HIV was:
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HIV infection rate in the US falls by a third in a decade
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UK HIV decrease:
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AU HIV decease:
HIV came from Haiti to New York
Are gays more likely to be pedophiles?
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About 60% of the male survivors sampled report at least one of their perpetrators to be female.
-Mendel, 1993.
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3/4 victims of molestation are female:
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"A 2015 study (linked above) looked at virtually every substantiated child sexual abuse case reported to child protective services in the United States in 2010. It concluded more than 20% of child sexual abuse cases reviewed involved a primary female perpetrator – so estimates vary significantly."
Is being gay a mental illness?
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Some people believe marriage is for the purpose of having a normal family which is the backbone of any strong nation and don't support marriage used for any other reason.
Some people think its a piece of paper and means nothing.
Some people believe marriage is what you do with the person you love.
So there you go.
because gays are icky
Businesses cannot be coerced into producing anti-gay messages:
It encourages, within the young, who often fear the opposite sex. A lifestyle that promotes selfishness and lack of self control. Resulting in a philosophy of living for today and hang the future we have no investment in it. Many homosexuals are not homosexual by nature just by habit.
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> man x man => no child
> woman x woman => no child
Nature doesn't like it and has made a firewall of impossibility of reproduction.
The end.
COME TO THREAD
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Good list, also prone to support increases in the power of the state and also prone to being letists.
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It's disgusting.
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I'm for it but it is technically a mental disorder.
You won't be able to pass your genes to your offspring.
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Try this experiment. By a torch that shines a beam of light. Switch it on in a dark room. Notice how even though concentrated on the "spot", the whole room is now bright enough to see?
Why wouldn't the same effect be noticeable If the sun behaved as such?
Because it creates a breeding ground for degeneracy. It's not even that hard to understand this. Fags molest children far more than any demographic in the US, yet they make up around 10% of the population. They instigate the slippery slope, which in turn creates more degeneracy because at this point, anyone who says anything bad about homosexuality is treated like the devil so speaking up against anything else is out of the question. All in all, it's a perversion that is used as a sick, political and social bludgeon to beat others to death with so that they accept the crumbling of the nuclear family and society. And I haven't even touched on health risks and overall cost of taking care of fags.
>there are walls in space for light to bounce off of
lmaoing at your inability to critical thinking
>7% of millennials are gay
7% of millennials THINK they are gay or claim to be because it's trendy.
In the room, the light reflects off walls. In a Flat-Earth Hypothesis, what does the light reflect off of? Don't say "Clouds' because they're refractive.
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This proves my point.
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>your shit study had a pool of 2,000 people you dumb fucking faggot
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What are you trying to acomplish here. either way they are all headed for the rope
Faggots are digusting aids ridden shitcock cumfarting cocksuckers. Prove me wrong. Protip: You can't.
In countries where gay marriage is the law, it is the conservative position politically.
Here's a bump.
Look up Ryan Sorba
If you become a homosexual there is a 78% chance you'll get an STD. The life expectancy for a homosexual is 30 years shorter then a non homo.
>still doesnt say how the sample was obtained.
>if you called 2000 people in NYC that will vary from 2000 people in Charleston.
>there's something wrong with raping babies
defend your claims
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Homosexuality itself is a sexually transmitted disease.
Obviously notot him, but thanks for actually posting sources and pointing out the bad and the good user, its effort few people take these days.
What faggot?
Imagine having that as a son
Like the fact that he's gay aside he's clearly just an absolute faggot
How about the categorical imperative? You should act in a way that you can will to become a universal law. If everyone were gay humanity would go extinct, so you can only support homosexuality if you want all humans to be dead.
It's a genetic dead end and ultimately anti social cohesion. Social cohesion is greatly helped by religion, having an objective infallible set of morality with a draconian punishment
system does wonders, it creates Idealists, which is what you want. The Egoist, self centered, only evaluates his current position and decides on actions that benefit him only. If the free association
he's in is not working he'll move out. The Idealist would martyr himself to keep the association going. That's what makes social cohesion, selflessness. To put others' needs first before yourself.
Now, religion and mentality are all part of identity, which is what helps with unity, which is what helps with cohesion. You cannot have a good union without a good identity. People need a greater goal.
Christianity as an institution is very effective at this. (cont.)
Shaping your life, lifestyle, and identity almost exclusively around who/what you fuck isn't healthy and will lead to extreme depression issues and the like when that aspect of life fails you in some way. The same can be said to furries and other people who take their fetishes to the next level
A problem them stems from homosexuality is the promiscuity. In straight promiscuity if a woman even has increments of one pre-marriage partner she'll have drastic effects to her divorce chance. Homosexual
-s are extreme in the practice. This hedonistic, materialistic egotistical attitude has no place in society. Stable marriages create effective children, which is the main point of marriage. So homosexuals
don't really have a reason for marriage at all. Nature created 'love' so we can make children, so homosexual love does not exist, which explains their insane promiscuity rate. Citing homosexuality in animals
is a non-argument. What non-animals do is irrevelant to us. So we can establish that homosexuality has no good reasons for marriage, so what about the promiscuity? Should we tolerate it?
Well of course not. Non-oxytocin releasing sexual activity I believe, is something akin to masturbation. A genetic dead end that doesn't improve you as a whole. It's addictive, you're releasing dopamine, not
oxytocin. You'll require more and more sex to release these chemicals. You are lustful, materialistic, therefore, ineffective. You need discipline to properly fulfill a social contract. You have to be free from
desires, don't let emotion cloud your decisions. I think we can establish that allowing homosexuality is an appeal to emotion.
Natural law theory you dumb fuck. Read this blog post on prop 8; edwardfeser.blogspot.com.au
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read here homo