As you can see from this more accurate political spectrum, facism belong and is in fact on the far left.
Fascism is a form of socialism. Communism is a form of socialism.
In general, Communism kills or exiles the wealthy bourgeois where Fascism finds it more efficient to leave the wealthy bourgeois in control of the factories and controls them instead.
NAZI literally means National Socialist German Workers Party. Hitler SOCIALIZED Germany.
Nobody really had any private property rights in Nazi Germany. People were scared as fuck of the Hitler regime because they had to total power.
I cringe every time a normie tells me fascism is right wing extremist. How the fuck could you have extreme socialism on the right, but then extreme socialism on the left? Both are near or at 100% government control over everything.
Well, "right" just means "inequality is good". Hitler thought that inequality between ethnic groups is good, but economic inequality between Germans is not, so it is kind of vague and meaningless to discuss.
Angel King
Politics is a triangle, not a line. People using "right wing" and "left wing" are retarded.
Isaac Bailey
this is some horseshoe theory tier retardation, do you even know what a political dimension is?
John Sanchez
inb4 American propaganda meme'd "totalitarianism" into being a thing in the post-war Cold War because Hitler=evil and if Hitler=evil=totalitarian=Soviets=evil.
Leo Harris
w theory is better
Jason Reyes
Kek confirms triangle
Xavier Roberts
>there are shills on this board that think national socialism is leftwing.
Aaron Martin
what in the ever loving fuck
Ryan White
Fasicism is left-wing economically, and in regards to social policies it's a mixed bag.
Isaac Scott
The chart is depending on the number of dimensions used.
For instance you compare classical right and left"-wing with authoritarianism and end up with two dimensions instead of the typical one dimension.
Personally I think that 3 or 4 dimensions are better.
The typical 3 dimensions would be these: Economic freedom Personal freedom Nationalism vs globalism
fourth.. maybe environment vs currently living humans
Anthony Hughes
Now this makes sense.
Thomas Adams
>High Taxes >Spend billions on Welfare >""""""""""Private""""""""" Property >Obey Daddy Govt or Die >Socialized Markets By Modern Standards, they are left wing.
Jason Barnes
what the fuck are you talking about burger boy ...
Angel Ward
What _exactly_ do you hope to accomplish here by trying to continue this dead in the water conversation. Let's put aside your left right arguing for a sec. Fascism is a form of conservatism, in that it promotes preservation of tradition in a nations societal institutions, economic and civilian relationships within the state and abroad, and the cultural standards of the nation. Hitler was a socialist inasmuch as he opposed the idea of globalism. His socialism was not left wing socialism=globalism, which he was against.
>How the f*ck could you have extreme socialist on the right and left. Well to put it simply socialism on the right is not the same as socialism on the left. I believe Hitler is responsible for this.
You're welcome. You can stop posting this nonsense now.
Dylan Perry
Not really. There's nothing in natsoc literature that says you have to have a socialist economic policy, on the contrary. It's more of a philosophy or social policy than anything else.
Fascism is right-wing, but Nazism is not full right-wing, it's more a mix
Henry Watson
>nationalist conservatism is NAZISM >wrong The floor is still open to support your unsubstantiated claim that this isnt correct.
Spoiler: you cant.
William Wilson
Correct. Thanks for being open and not sperging out about 'muh national SOCIALIST' like the other libertarians and anarcho capitalists on this board.
Kevin Moore
>FASCISM IS NOT RIGHT WING Ok, what's your point?
William Davis
fascists never claimed to ve right wing
Dylan Williams
All right wingers are under permanent suspicion to be fascists by the media and the left in general. Maybe he wanted to point out that this is ridiculous because it is not really a right-wing thing. I don't know.
Blake White
this was a good haul son, shelling out an extra 59 cents on bait was a choice idea. we gonna eat fishies tonight champ! :DD
Lucas Johnson
Fascism is almost the definition of "le enlightened centrist" government, except actually cool because they had a sense of aesthetics and were cool as fuck.
Fascism isn't left wing, it isn't right wing, it's basically just ultra-authoritarianism where the guy in charge decides what he feels like doing on each individual issue.
>fug war >Nationalize all the factories so that we can fight it
>faggots >Kill them.
>taxes >I dunno raise them if we need money but don't be stupid about it we need an economy dude
Fascism is what happens when you completely disregard the left/right axis and just do whatever you think will work at the moment. Pinochet actually falls to this definition because he was willing to go with the whole "free markets" shtick but had no compunctions about being utterly authoritarian on other subjects.
You know who else is like this? The United States.
Ryan Garcia
way to simplistic view. Pinoshit was nothing but a serf
Robert Hall
>Nazi conservatism >wrong >op posts diagram to support a claim he denies to be truth You can't literally be this retarded.
Parker Wilson
Discussing what's left/right is pretty useless without defining the axes. In your picture it's defined through government control (which is a pretty good way to look at it), but in modern politics the left/right distinction is quite a mess of different traditions and ideas.
Joshua Wilson
>As you can see from this more accurate political spectrum This is literally MS paint tier, not some "accurate spectrum". It is shit tier, just like you OP.
Mason Hall
I think the Nazis were more of a Oligarchy, werent they? I mean, Hitler was basically king, right?
Robert Jones
>that chart This has always been my intuitive understanding.
Jaxon Fisher
>right and left are authoritarian and libertarian what the fuck is even happening in this thread
Evan Moore
And btw that argues against the diagram in the op you're reeing is the correct way to look at left right constructs of political idology. Wow you _are_ literally retarded.
David Morgan
except you dont understand politics Thats how things work Progressivisim = authoritarian in nature Conservatism = libertarian in nature Believing in the binaray poltical compass is what the jews want you to think, the bigger picture is explained here As Democratic Socialism, Centrism, and Republicanism are all highly authoritarian in nautre than your average Radical Centrist
Gavin Morgan
do you think monarchy is progressive, you retarded commie nigger?
Ayden Jenkins
It worked to serve to create better men. The next lowest person in the hierarchy taking his superior's place upon his passing.
Nicholas Brown
pure retardation >Conservatism = libertarian in nature actually kill yourself
Jeremiah Perez
You are a intuitively a retard then
Parker Price
>NAZI literally means National Socialist German Workers Party. Hitler SOCIALIZED Germany.
What does the "ZI" in NAZI stand for? Anyone know?
Dominic Sanchez
>do you think monarchy is progressive, you retarded commie nigger? Nice adhoc retard
Also depends on the monarch, what you don't get that Progressivism is like a spring, the more you pull progressive, the less the limit of conservertism will be, see pic related This is why "classical" liberals are linked with todays modern day conservatives
Keep swallowing the jewpill faggot
Nathaniel Evans
No it doesn't doesnt explain how people can Radically change from being an Authoritarian to Libertarian and Back to Authoritarian again, this is a better theory Nice Jewpilled politics chart, the bigger picture isnt explain nor does many politcal ideologies can fit in it intuitively see
Hunter Johnson
NAtionalsoZIalismus
Nazi as a term existed before the acronym though. It was used for someone who is dumb, ignorant or a pleb. An insult the upper class might often use for the working class.
Mason Brown
individualism and traditionalism are antithesis. Both communism and libertarianism are revolutionary ideologies, and ofcourse heavily jewish
Nathan Green
Yeah, I know, thats why they are heavily mirrored in this, see
Nathaniel Evans
libertarian party believes in global warming shit. they're as authoritarian as anybody else.
there's no solution to global warming other than global government and total authoritarianism so libertarian party is just kike shit. it always was, but they took off their mask with global warming
Daniel Russell
>libertarian party believes in global warming shit. they're as authoritarian as anybody else. So? being an environmentalist is libertarian the difference between inherent libertarian parties and green parties is that one is a watermelon, green on the outside and commie on the inside and the other is against big government and more economic freedoms.
Jaxson Lee
Get away from history Go with philosophy
Anthony Campbell
read john locke's essay on government
Brandon Watson
You are high. Hopefully you brought enough to share.
Cameron Murphy
Keep shilling shlomo
Jackson Long
Dude you can stop whenever you'd like because all you're doing now is talking in circles. Here you are calling yourself redpilling before giving yourself time to properly understand what it is you are trying to say. That you can't dispute user. Also gtfo.
Adrian Adams
the key is Tyranny and Liberty or Good and Evil. those are the main characteristics. Look for the Good in people >>>>> Right Wing and the antithesis, Evil >>>>> Leftist
James King
Yeah nice argument mate, literally brought nothing to the table whatsoever, if you have anything informative to say, spill it, otherwise you know nothing.
This
Nathan Ross
I have modified my spectrum to show where the BOR would be, the evil 16th amend, ObamaCare,etc...
Justin Baker
Where did you find this definition?
Ian Powell
This pisses Leftists off!! #Triggered
Zachary Davis
Nice, thank you very much
Justin Jackson
Why do WE exist?
Juan Murphy
Oh look, a commie Jew!
Lucas Bailey
>nice argument That wasn't an argument at all. >he don't know know the difference between an argument and a declaration If you aren't op you've no business sliding yourself in conversations unaddressed to you. Fuck off white knight.
Jack Jones
URSS was socially conservative too do you guys think that they liked gays,feminists and SJW?
Eli Fisher
>That wasn't an argument at all. Yet your constant attacks to my character is an indication of severe shilling
Alright faggot, do you honestly believe you know politics more than me? No, you don't I've worked for many political campaigns, advertisements and wrote up many legislations after 30 years in public server, not to mention I've worked in many in Liberal and Conservatism think tanks and we've had these types of discussions of the dichotomy of politics many times over. Your view on politics is extremely one sided and is also tunnel visioned, Why don't you take a look at the bigger fucking picture for once instead of living in your own stupid bubble, but alas, the jews have conditioned you to Think "HURR HURR REPUBLICANS ARE NAZIS COZ THERE RIGHT WING AND DURR DURR DEMOCRATS ARE THE REAL RACISTS / FASCIST"
No nigger, they're not, they're essentially 2 sides of the same coin and people do, consider suicide
>If you aren't op you've no business sliding yourself in conversations unaddressed to you. Fuck off white knight.
Except I am OP retard, nice reading comprehension you've got there you brainwashed burger
Oh look a shill
Tyler Brown
Did you notice where the legalization of vice crime are located? and media?
Cameron Perry
The media is all jews
Jeremiah Wilson
Fascism isnt right nor left you fucking idiot Its called third position for a reason Fascism and NatSoc arent Socialist systems Socialism in "National Socialism" is an adopted term, Hitler changed its meaning when he took over the party and literally rewrote their political manifesto Private property and markets still existed under fascism, which is literally the opposite of socialism Read a god damn book and stop "learning" from internet memes and dumbass youtubers
Julian Edwards
But national socialism IS left wing. If you look at the horse shoe theory it clearly puts NS/Communism side by side.
I never understood why Leftypol wasnt full of nazis.
William Allen
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Easton Fisher
Nazism=/=Fascism you moron Fascism doesn't employ that retarded antisemitist bullshit
Asher Turner
oh Christ can we agree there are Leftist and Right wing Jews?
Hunter Thomas
This board is so retarded now its gone beyond funny Has anyone in this thread actually read gottfried feder, mussolini, giovanni gentile, adolf hitler, goebbels?
Michael Ortiz
Existed but was regulated
Zachary Price
>Fascism isnt right nor left you fucking idiot
Ok not only are you a naive idealogue your also a fucking retard
HURR DURR THIRD POSITION LOOK ME IM SUCH AN INDIVIDUALIST KEK XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>Fascism and Natsoc arent Scoailist system Nation Socialism implies Social Nationalism which empowers workers rights within a nation. The same reason why Stalin killed off trotsky who was a "Globalist" Commie than a "Nationallist Commie" unlike stalin
WEW LOOK AT ME, DONT USE SWASTIKAS GOYYYY
Thomas James
>National Socialist more economically right than ancaps >classical center not being near libertarians >egoist on the map This image literally hurts to stare at
Wyatt Flores
>right >left
What did he mean by this??
Daniel Rodriguez
And so was every other economy during war time you fucking mongoloid
Aaron Butler
classical liberals
Wyatt Perez
f the term Nazi existed before then it could mean anything they wanted it to mean. So therefore NA-ZI could mean NA-tional socialist / ZI-onist.
Because I actually understand what fascism is? Okay.. And you havent even read Mein Kampf so why are you fucking talking like you have even and inkling of knowledge on this subject Go read a book I'll recommend some
>Wages Of Destruction >The War Path >Hitlers Revolution >The Origin and Doctrine of Fascism
Jason Jones
>Regulated market is righ wing Any retard can see that in WW2 everyone is a potential fascist,Vargas was a fascist and fight against the axis
Anthony Scott
Why is it barbed wire? Is it a wall?
Cameron Green
Commies also suport him because he was doing basically what a commie do
Jacob Perez
Thats just how politics works
>WAH WAH GO READ A BOOK XDDDDD If it takes a book to understand the fundamentals of a politcal idealogy thats extremely outdated then you're an autist and a LARPER, not to mention reading a book will only just lead to further confirmation bias than actually understanding and learning the concepts of an idealogy
Go back to listening shitty fascist marching songs on fascist ball 4 and browsing the ironmarch and LARPING AS A FASCIST FUCK THE GAY GERMINS NATSOC ARENT TRUE FASCIST :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
Also go read SEIGE faggot
no its a spring
Jackson Garcia
It also places Nazis on the right in direct contradiction to OP's original claim >OP is confirmed retarded
Jeremiah Watson
W theory > Horseshoe theory > Circle Theory
Angel Thompson
Such a basic truth that "the red pill" really is different for yanks and proper whites (i. e. whites by culture, not only race). White person's "red pill": there is a world of Forms (eidoi, "ideas") more true than this one of time and matter; it is the source and now that I've realised it, "I know that I know nothing" and it's time to look at the world anew, with full acknowledgement of my being blind/deceived prior to this, and to revise my basic beliefs, convictions, perceptual habits, etc. Example: quantum physics, foundations of logic, modern anthropology (post-Human Genome Project) etc. etc. etc. etc.
Yank "red pill": "we must" vote Trump and say edgy things to redpill the SJWs and unite everyone against Muslims!!! Deus Vult! Let's pussy-chase our whore yank roasties and tell them that we're ready to impregnate them.
Parker Morales
This desu
Julian Morris
politics is a davidstar
Christian Evans
Thanks satan, Not only that, Redpill is also synonymous with women hating and misogyny. The original pol redpill is realising that jews control the world
Noah Cook
Rothschild control the word
Gavin Powell
>shills! >by my own definition shills are anyone who disagree with me >muh power level >I'm 30 yr polifag secretary >this means my knowledge is based >yet is decidedly self serving >cos Sup Forums is too fucking stupid to understand my around the bush politically enlightened think tank speech >fuck Sup Forums not understanding me >t. OP That basically sums up what you're saying here. You aren't trying to stir up any kind of public debate. It's obvious now. Fuck yr power level broseph. >B-but muh schools. Yeah keep believing yr some kind of God sent scholar here to teach us the err in our ways. Fuck the fuck off. You're no better than the jews you're dismissing.
Adrian Scott
>7 posts by this id
David Peterson
>falling for the (((socialism))) meme
Fukn plebbit in here
Julian Smith
Jesus you lefty/pol/ kike shills are not even trying to hide or use a different meme flag
Lucas Scott
You were supposed to use the lolbertarian or kekistan flag you retard
Grayson Cox
National socialism is traditionalist, not conservative you dumbass. It's also anti-capitalist
Caleb Torres
Lol Funny post total bullshit tho
Evan Collins
>ah say muh autism reckons participats to argue muh flaccid point of view with number 7 suggests jew shill I'm done with you conspiripolfag. I've got yr number.