ITT: Ways to spot a pleb

>their criticism of an anime is "literally nothing happens"
>they judge an anime solely on its entertainment value
>they think the source material is better than the adaptation without question

>>they judge an anime solely on its entertainment value
Well... isn't that kind of the point?

Thinks K-On! improved the anime industry.

>he is so insecure his friends don't approve his taste he makes a thread on Sup Forums

this is the biggest red flag

They hate Shield Lad.

>pleb
Go back summerfag

>They use Kyoani reaction images
>Their answer to a show where nothing happens is "Fun things are fun"

>summerfag
Hello summer

I see you felt as though Sup Forums needed yet another mindless template thread. Feelings can be misleading.

>Summer
Hello earthling

triggered pleb

>judging anime on any other merit than the entertainment value

Bait/10

People are still going to bite though.

>It's another "my opinions are shit because I can't argue and I need to spread my truly autistic views on the interwebs" episode

This faggot at my work has a gurren laggen vynl on his car

>they judge an anime solely on its entertainment value
2/10 made me reply

>he downloads anime

pleb, buying is the only true way to be a anime fan.

>not paying for CR
Get on this decade, gramps.

plebs-a-plenty

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Are you a lit major?

>they judge an anime solely on its entertainment value

That's the point, you fucking retard. You watch things for entertainment.

>watching something you don't enjoy to make yourself feel smart
why

"Where are all the fights?" "This is just them talking" "I'm not gonna say the anime with the most action is the best, but it'd be really high up there"

>giving him (You)s

>>they judge an anime solely on its entertainment value
What's wrong with that? Fun things are fun.

There's more to enjoyment than being entertained. If entertainment value is all you can see in something then you're a brainlet.

No. Art can achieve more than entertainment philistine.

>they disagree with me on anime
biggest red flag desu

What does being entertained mean then?

What if you get everything that's going on under the surface but it doesn't move you in any way?

If you still say it's good on principle you're just lying to yourself.

>>they judge an anime solely on its entertainment value
Do you mean to say "they judge all anime solely on their entertainment value"? Because that would actually make sense. I'm fine with watching fun trash like Nyaruko as well as 2deep4u shit like Angel's Egg. True aficionavocados can appreciate different anime in different ways.

Fuck off to your undergrad lit seminar with this shit, no one in the real world cares.

Neither entertainment or enjoyment are the important parts. A work can be neither of these and be great.

Thinks K-on is bad.

Sorry all you want is escapist fantasy for manchildren.

What is important then? Just ideas? If ideas are all you want art isn't what you're looking for, you're looking for pure philosophy.

I'm sorry you've been so brainwashed that you think entertainment is for manchildren.

Literally kill yourself.

This is why you shouldn't watch K-On and only enjoy the porn.

How ideas are presented. I'm not saying there is any thing wrong with wanting joy, not at all, but it's diminutive to art to only look for joy.

>equating joy and entertainment

>people are falling for the "anime is art" meme

i'm not, but both would work there.

>both would work there.
No.

If ideas are presented badly, they're boring, ie not entertaining.
If ideas are presented well, they are entertaining.

Now stop being a faggot.

>implying boredom isn't a valid method of expression
some ideas can't be presented in an entertaining way.

This. Your DEEP themes can be good if they entertain me. If they don't entertain me then they're shit. Fiction isn't a fucking lecture - I'm not going to sit through something I hate and hope that it'll somehow help me on the test next week. \

Anything can achieve the status of art nowadays. Not really something to be proud of to be honest.

>some ideas can't be presented in an entertaining way.
Then you shouldn't make an anime of them.

Then don't express them? Or if you think they're actually somehow important to convince people of, then you should never have been trying to make fiction out of it in the first place, you should have been writing treatises. Fiction is not how you make a fucking philosophical point in a convincing and logical manner.

>tipping my STEM fedora to you good sir
So how would you present your ideas if you're an anime director?

>So how would you present your ideas if you're an anime director?
Assuming you have boring ideas? That would depend on what the idea is,, I suppose. If it's a boring idea about quantum entanglement, I'd write a paper. If it's a boring idea about politics, I'd write an op-ed piece or a blog post or something.

In an entertaining way.

And now you realize why they don't let just any hobo direct.

Okay? You have this weird idea that fiction is about "expressing ideas" and that the audience cares. It's actually a terrible way to express any idea in a rigorous way. It's a good way to express ideas in a way that will make them grab people, but that's entertainment. Fiction is not about how good your ideas are, take that somewhere else.

>plebian detected

You seem to be confusing comedic/fun with entertaining/engaging.

How would you express your ideas if you're a file clerk? Just because you have an idea doesn't mean it magically needs to be expressed through whatever you usually do with your life. Express it in a way that makes sense, or more likely just don't fucking express it.

Why does boring mean it doesn't make sense?

they are Sup Forums, Sup Forums, Sup Forums, and Sup Forums posters

Because the act of understanding something is usually exciting to people.
Not understanding something usually makes you zone out after a while because it's hard work without any pay-off.

That's not what I meant - the idea makes sense (presumably), but it doesn't make sense to express a boring idea in a play or poem or whatever. There are always better ways to express an idea for its own sake than fiction - fiction is good at making it entertaining, that's its value.

You're trying to use a hammer to saw a table in half.

I think OP means the difference between subjective and objective critique.

You do that when you're rating things, not when you're watching them.

Is there anything more pathetic than people who watch/read things that they don't find fun just to make themselves feel smart? Of all the mediums to pick they choose anime too.

>Of all the mediums to pick they choose anime too.
A very valid point. I feel like anime is a TERRIBLE medium for certain things. Take The Wind Rises, as an example. Felt like a documentary, and I hated it. Had it been a film, I might have enjoyed it.

Anime movies can be a little long winded and kind kind of boring, especially older stuff like Jinroh and Akira even though I love the former.

Bullshit.
I don't say manga is solely entertainment and can't be anything else, but if it is not entertaining, why using that medium at all?
If you want for example teach history it still should be funny or interesting. Otherwise you might as well read a history book which deliver necessary informations much faster.

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>they judge an anime solely on its entertainment value
That's like the most important thing. There's no point in watching anime you don't enjoy, retard.

>36 posts
>32 of them are plebs
Will the four non plebs please reply to me so we know not to judge your posts.

In comparison to TV shows/movies with real actors anime somehow manages to be much better.

Shows are almost always filled with actors whose acting is simply abysmal. With animation there is no problem with reading emotions that characters convey.
Secondly. voice actors are actually competent people compared to real actors who often can't speak for shit and only get a pass for their looks.
Thridly, TV shows are painfully formulaic since they are made to appeal to widest audience. Even without watching them you can easily predict half of the shit they will show.

Last one is a bit personal thing. Anime has much better music quality. I can't recall a single TV show with satisfying or memorable soundtrack.

>they value content over form

But K-ON is literally a boring show where nothing happens and where the manga was objectively better

Why the fuck would I watch chinese cartoons for anything other than entertainment.

When you keep your MAL account inactive for too long you get a mail telling you they'll freeze it if you don't add a new title to your watched list in the next 2 weeks.

>I just wish they wouldn't sexualize the girls so much

>says 'moeshit' is meaningless and using it is proof of being an outsider

Is the same thing but with less Yuri/fanservice mister contrarian.


Also you guys get baited so easily. OP comments contradict the fun things are fun theme of the show. Is obvious bait for both sides and yet you people still fell for it.

>using "weaboo" unironically
>on the anime board of a saudi arabian crossword forum

I don't think you understand what weeaboo means.

Here's your reply you filthy weeb.

> they enjoy their functioning professional, social and sexual lives.

You can't go wrong with clues like these.

>they complain about shallow anime but haven't read a book since Fahrenheit 451 in high school
>they can't tell you what Tenshi no Tamago is about but they still think it's a 9/10
>they repeat "moeshit" despite moe existing forever
>they hate CGDCT even though CGDCT makes tons of money for the industry
>they think anime "used to be good" but are under the age of 25
>they think the 3 episode rule is an ironclad law
>they unironically tell people that a show gets good after 10+ episodes
>they refuse to admit that manga and shows like HnK and JoJo are stupid and only get a pass because of their age
>they read machine translations of LNs
>they fuck with machine translations at all

>reading machine translations of an entire novel
N-No one actually does this, right?

The real way to spot an actual pleb is when he uses the "it's boring" argument.

no, plenty of stories are boring because the author has no concept of pacing, not because the reader has any problem.

Pleb detected.

>>they can't tell you what Tenshi no Tamago is about but they still think it's a 9/10
Hey fuck you. Even the creator of it admitted that it isn't about anything.

whatever dude

>it isn't about anything
If it's about something then what is it about?

It isn't about anything. It's basically just interesting imagery, and trying to derive meaning from it is just a Rorschach test.

yes, what makes someone a pleb is trying to derive meaning from it, praising it for artistic complexity and depth and arguing about what it's about even though it's not about anything.

It's not a bad thing to try to derive meaning from it. The only way that those kinds of discussions end up poorly is if people say that "this is what this objectively means". Death of the Author and "the curtains are blue" basically mean that discussing symbolism where there is none is just something to be done for fun, and that's not a bad thing.

too much ass

"The neat thing about art works like this is that they are open. The viewer takes the imagery and mixes it with, hopefully, his deepest preoccupations and constructs the ghost of a narrative. If the imagery is compelling enough, that personally-grounded proto-story will surface and solidify with time, and become very moving to the viewer, if only in memory."

>implying that discussions of symbolism are ever anything other than people trying to push their headcanon as the gospel truth

I'm other words the artist is the assist giver and not the goalscorer.

>They judge a source of entertainment on its entertainment value.
Wow, what idiots

>the weakness of the narrative is the strength of the work

i literally hate this word salad

Nothing in your favorite anime happens. Your favorite anime's entertainment value is low. The source material of your favorite anime is better than the adaption without question.