Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Hey just asking why so many people despise Communism especially Americans?
Jonathan Roberts
Success breeds jealousy.
Evan Morales
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Logan Carter
Mostly people who experienced the soviet union
Nicholas Hill
Funny thing they are still poor and living in squalid conditions in capitalist countries.
Luis Brooks
why has communism never been tried before?
Alexander Williams
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Lucas Mitchell
oh this faggot again kys fag sage
Isaiah James
Better than even poorer and more squalid and indoctrinated countries such as NK
Levi Flores
Fuck off back to your safespace, snowflake.
Carter Wood
You will never achieve the Chinese prosperity level, created due to the Communist economic reforms.
Austin Ross
when will you realize you blokes are just as unquestioning, just as devout, and just as violent as actual Nazis and fascists?
Josiah Cooper
>Success
Top KEK!
Brody Ortiz
They don't understand what communism is.
Cooper Allen
"Communist economic reforms"
KEK!
Nathaniel Jenkins
Communism is inevitable
Colton Reed
Nothing to do with out ideology. don't add things that aren't there
Adrian Fisher
You don't know what capitalism is, so kind of balances out!
John Russell
Privately owned capital = capitalism
wow so hard
Kevin Diaz
Like food in communist countries!
Christian Rivera
Communism is part of human nature.
Matthew Adams
Go on...
Sebastian Jones
fuck, not again
Brayden Hughes
communism is bullshit. Read Mises!!!
Easton Lewis
If your of a slave mind
Carson Bailey
mfw this whole thing is such a meme people in the future will become ironic communists
also sage
Jack Hernandez
(((Mises)))
>into the trash it goes
Jason Martinez
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Landon Foster
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Matthew Martinez
Classless.. First job in Communism, put everyone in to a class.
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Dominic Diaz
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Jace Moore
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Noah Lewis
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Gabriel Young
Communism is wrong and outdated, just like your moms pussy.
Brandon Taylor
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Ryder Cooper
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Joseph Ross
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Liam Gomez
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Brody Johnson
Wrong
Nicholas Sanders
"To each according to his contribution" is a principle of distribution considered to be one of the defining features of socialism.
The principle has its roots in the way that capitalism manages its affairs. That is, each is rewarded according to how much he produces. Remuneration increases as the amount of labor contributed increases. However within capitalism, the means of production are owned by a small minority who do not produce, but rather live off the labor of others. Socialism is said to remedy this by putting the means of production in common hands and rewarding individuals according to their contributions.
Josiah Scott
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Jaxson Scott
VROOM VROOM MOTHERFUCKER
Robert Gray
Funny, it the chart doesn't show the rise and complete and utter failure of Communism.. Funny that,!
depression america was doing better than ussr at any time of its existence
Nolan Jackson
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Nathaniel Stewart
Funny.. They always argue the number.. Not the fact they murdered millions of people.. Tell you want let me know when its sounds better!
10x worse than the Nazi's 9x worse than the Nazi's 8x worse than the Nazi's 7x worse than the Nazi's 6x worse than the Nazi's 5x worse than the Nazi's 4x worse than the Nazi's 3x worse than the Nazi's 2x worse than the Nazi's
Top fuck KEK!
Luis Peterson
Yeah I honestly thought he was admitting communist failure for a second.
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Jack Bailey
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Logan Campbell
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Gavin Collins
Ever encounter one of those college idiots who just finished their first semester of microeconomics but has never read actual economic theory? Ever wonder what to say to them to shake them out of their brainwashing? You can start with Value Theory:
The most damning and critique of Marxism thus far has come from V. K. Dmitriev (1898) and Ladislaus von Bortkiewicz (1906): >Marx's value theory and law of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall are internally inconsistent. In other words, Marx drew conclusions that actually do not follow from his theoretical premises. Once those errors are corrected, Marx's conclusion that aggregate price and profit are determined by, and equal to, aggregate value and surplus value no longer holds true. This result calls into question his theory that the exploitation of workers is the sole source of profit. >Andrew Kliman argues that, since internally inconsistent theories cannot possibly be right, this undermines Marx's critique of political economy and current-day research based upon it, as well as the correction of Marx's alleged inconsistencies.
Basically Marx tried to argue in "Manifesto" that 2+2=7 (7 being the uptopia where a) workers were no longer exploited and b) profits would grow), however when one were to correct his own mathematical mistakes to where 2+2=4 then not only would workers be exploited MORE, but it would be the ONLY source of profit since things like speculation, stock market, investment, capital gains, etc. (which exist in Capitalism) would no longer exist as a means of profit in a communist economic model. It literally would and always has exploited the worker more than Capitalism ever has. The mechanisms of Capitalism have corrected the exploitation of workers far more smoothly than any communist country ever has. >Don't believe me? Read Sedlácek's breakdown of Marxism.
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Lincoln Sanders
Capitalism isn't a form of government! Hence hasn't killed anyone.
And back to me saying you don't know what capitalism is, and this being the proof!
Joshua James
commies believe in this shit lmao.
Joseph Bell
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Adrian Campbell
how tf did capitalism ever cause famine?
Nathaniel Hughes
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Thomas Brooks
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Angel Martin
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim gib gib gib! DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gomfug gommies.gomstarve
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Hudson Collins
When did you find out that Stalin was a child rapist and why would you support an ideology championed by a monster like this?
>At the beginning of the summer of 1956, the chairman of the KGB of the USSR Serov made a report to the Politburo about certain facts of the biography of Joseph Stalin during the stay of the future "leader of the peoples" in the Turukhansk region in exile from 1913 to the winter of 1916-1917. >(The report is dated June 4, 1956. The archive cipher of the following three pages of the report is as follows: RGASPI, F.558, Op.11, D.1288, L.14-16) >In the report, the Chairman of the KGB touched on some issues of the moral character of Stalin. The following lines of the report are most sensational: >"According to PERELYGINA, it was established that JV Stalin, while in Kureika, at the age of fourteen deceived her and began to cohabit. In this connection, I. V. Stalin was called to the gendarme LALETYN for bringing to criminal responsibility for cohabitation with a minor. JV Stalin gave the floor to marry PERELYGINA when she became an adult. >As she told in May this year. PERELYGINA, she had a child born about 1913 who died. In 1914, a second child was born, who was named after Alexander. At the end of the exile, Stalin left and she was forced to marry a local peasant DAVYDOV who adopted a born boy, Alexander. For all of Stalin's life, she >never provided any assistance. Currently, Alexander's son serves in the Soviet Army and is a major. "
Aaron Price
>lists things that have nothing to do with capitalism this is beyond fallacies. this is some advanced mental gymnastics
Colton Morgan
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Henry Smith
But Ancaps aren't against this arrangement, since it's voluntary.
>cooperatives in ancap = ok >employer - employee relation in ancap also ok
>employer - employee relation in commieland = gulag
Gavin Adams
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Grayson Morales
COMMUNISM IS ILLEGAL.
COMMUNISTS ARE NOT PEOPLE.
Oliver Nguyen
And the me murder of about between 40 - 60 million people.
But its totally morally justified!
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Jace Sanchez
If you commie faggots claim to be fighting "evil imperialism", then why are you the same ones promoting it at every turn when you try to re-write history? These are real questions I want answers to.
>During the existence of the Russian SFSR (1918–1991) and the Soviet Union (1922–1991), the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU) attempted to ideologically and politically control the writing of both academic and popular history. These attempts were most successful in 1934–52 period. According to Mehnert, the Soviets attempt to control academic historiography (the writing of history by academic historians) to promote ideological and ethno-racial imperialism by Russians. During the 1928–56 period, modern and contemporary history was generally composed according to the wishes of the CPSU, not the requirements of accepted historiographic method. According to some authors, such as Mehnert, this practice was fundamentally corrupt.
>Control over party history and the legal status of individual ex-party members played a large role in dictating the ideological diversity and thus the faction in power within the CPSU. The history of the Communist Party was revised to delete references to leaders purged from the party, especially during the rule of Joseph Stalin (1922–53).
>In the Historiography of the Cold War, a controversy over negationist historical revisionism exists, where numerous revisionist scholars in the West have been accused of whitewashing the crimes of Stalinism, overlooking the Katyn massacre in Poland and disregarding the validity of the Venona messages with regards to Soviet espionage in the United States.
Kayden Davis
Hitler 'had Jewish and African roots', DNA tests show Adolf Hitler is likely to have had Jewish and African roots, DNA tests have shown.
>Saliva samples taken from 39 relatives of the Nazi leader show he may have had biological links to the “subhuman” races that he tried to exterminate during the Holocaust. >Jean-Paul Mulders, a Belgian journalist, and Marc Vermeeren, a historian, tracked down the >Fuhrer’s relatives, including an Austrian farmer who was his cousin, earlier this year.
Government, again, you don't know what capitalism is.
THIS.
Jacob Cruz
Can any of you socialist/commie bernouts explain to me why you support such a sick and twisted group of child rapists? What's in it for you? Are you okay with them forcibly penetrating innocent children? Don't you claim to stop "the exploitation of the people"? How could you, then, condone the outright and utmost exploitation of the most vulnerable of our people; children?
David Thorstad >Influential Socialist Party Member, pro-pederast, pro-pedophile activist >FOUNDER and member of North American Man/Boy Love Association (which advocates for raping little boys) >Active member of the UWS Socialist Wokers Party >Active Trotskyist communist >Wrote for "The Militant" but left when the paper refused to put a Marxist spin on the gay liberation movement
>Thorstad claims that pedophilia is the MAIN way in which homosexuality has been expressed in modern culture YOUR OWN PEOPLE ADMIT THAT HOMOSEXUALS ARE PEDOPHILES
Why/how can you be uneducated, misinformed, or dumb enough to follow these people into a death spiral of degeneracy? How does your brain deal with these facts? No mentally-fit person can think this shit is alright.
Charles Robinson
1. Why is every communist country past and present also an ethno-state?
2. Why are all communist sympathisers
Aiden Evans
>Implying 95% of the things on that list are the fault of "Capitalism" >Implying those things would have been prevented with Communism >Implying Communism doesn't create a massive humanitarian crisis in the absence of those events.
Wew lad
Jonathan Davis
Stay away from my cops, and my icons.
Cooper Anderson
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Ryder Cruz
literally says people died because of droughts wtf
Kevin Williams
# #
Government, again, you don't know what capitalism is.
THIS.
Lincoln Fisher
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Justin Jackson
kys before you kill millions
Jordan Lopez
E1b1 reaches relatively high frequency in the Balkans and Mediterranean. It's believed to have had a presence since the Neolithic or possibly before.
Jose Cook
When did you find out that socialism/communism was just an evil fraud created for satanic pedophiles, sodomites, and degenerate fucking jews?
>The year was 1904, and the participants were destined to become the intellectual and political leaders of the British Empire.
>Chief of this ring of homosexual revolutionaries was John Maynard Keynes, who eventually became the economic architect of English socialism and gravedigger for the British Empire. The chief American Fabians, acting as carriers of the Keynesian sickness, were Felix (((Frankfurter))) and Walter (((Lippmann))). Covertly, they mobilized their Leftist comrades to spread this pollution in America also.
>Keynes was characterized by his male sweetheart, (((LyttonStrachey))), as “A liberal and a sodomite, an atheist and a statistician.” His particular depravity was the sexual abuse of little boys. In communications to his homosexual friends, Keynes advised that they go to Tunis, “where bed and boy were also not expensive.” As a sodomistic pedophiliac, he ranged throughout the Mediterranean area in search of boys for himself and his fellow socialists. Taking full advantage of the bitter poverty and abysmal ignorance in North Africa, the Middle East, and Italy, he purchased the bodies of children prostituted for English shillings[See Lytton Strachey, A Critical Biography, Michael Holyroyd, Holt, Rinehart and Winston, two volumes].
How could anyone with half a brain not see that these people are evil incarnate and seek nothing but the destruction of the world?
These are irrefutable, historical facts. Time and time again throughout history we see the socialist/communist movement is spear-headed by degenerate, jewish, child-raping, drug-induced lunatics.
Smash a commie when you see a commie.
Jaxon Adams
YAY!
The true path to enlightenment..
Communist BTFO!
The future is Gommunism!
Ian Garcia
They're going to dismiss what you're as capitalist bourgeoisie propaganda like everything else that doesn't fit their world view. Any dissent is an attempt at exploitation in their eyes, and as such must be crushed. Thus the vicious violence of communism.
