How can fascists even compete?
While you complain about interracial couples in soup ads on a chinese cartoon form -- Socialists are out in the real world organising and winning people over.
DSA has grown to over 25,000 members from 6,000 in 2015.
Identity Evropa has what, a couple hundred members tops? Lmao. Your side can't even hold a simple rally without it turning into an embarrassing shitshow, lmao.
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libertarianism the only way. racial nationalism wont win.
liberty.
please.
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Kids also usually outgrow communism. It's as much a fad now as it was with the boomers in the '60s and '70s.
,000 members
>about the population of a one-horse town, but spread across the whole nation with 90% of those faggots concentrated in NY and CA. WEW LAD!!!
LMAO
>How can fascists even compete?
those couple hundred could still kick the shit out of the middle aged women and beta cuck boys.
u kiwi niggers lost a war to emus.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die!
Give them nothing! But take from them ... everything!
your ideal state of libertarianism has certain demographic limitations - it is not feasible in an open borders situation, it requires specific cultural elements and culture is downstream of biology
this is the redpill you need to take to escape from your libertarian memelord timeline
good luck
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>Chinese cartoon forum
>Chinese
You don't belong here
kiwis are new zealanders shithead.
Yes democratic party is dead, vote green party for now! Wee
>Identity Evropa has what, a couple hundred members tops?
And yet they constantly get media attention whereas no average American knows what the fuck the DSA is.
yeah, no. there is no ideal state. there is only the free state. no one get welfare. no one intervenes in each others lives. most things become privatized. spending is limited. taxation is reduced. the fed is audited and eventually destroyed. state power/local power reemerges.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CULTURE.
you were just a racist that hid behind libertarianism for a few months until realizing you would have to share your freedom with brown people.
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Only takes a few hundred rounds of ammo to destroy every single one of these chapters
Not even worried
Fuck off bluepilled commie scum. Sage
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this is clearly a north korean nuclear missle testing incle exchange forum.
quite honestly i thought the Berniebros,which what the DSA most likely is made up of, disbanded after they got BTFO'd in the election.
>world organising and winning people over.
Wrong.
If you haven't noticed, those people just turn people off from democratic positions. Those commies are the best thing to happen to the right in ages; next to hillary clinton.
>boasting about small commie establishments across the U.S.A. on a Ugandan wine & cheese tasting forum
>THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CULTURE.
culture is the result of genetics applied to their environment and since we cannot radically change the natural environment that means genetics is our only real input variable into the chaotic system that is a nation state
there is no magic fairy dust in the air, my lad, it really is as simple as that
this is also why the lefty "social construct" arguments fall flat - social elements are rooted in biology as well as humans are biological constructs
don't be a fucking retard, take the pill
>share your freedom with brown people
Problem that you lolbertarians don't get is, those brown people don't want you to share with them, they're demanding you give them what's yours or be punished for non-compliance.
Many of them are actively plotting how they can just take what you have because, hey, they deserve it since you're an evil white man.
That's why lolbertarianism left the building in my late 20s when I finally had to accept that it still clung to failed notions of equality and "we can all just get along" feelgood hippie bullshit that's been proven to fail time and time again.
>no one get welfare. no one intervenes in each others lives.
Holy fuck, you actually think those "brown people" will give up gibs, become self-sufficient, and stop killing each other (and us) because we abolish the state? Fugg, it'll only turn them into complete savages once they lose their free shit and have to work for it.
Again, lolbertarianism is so devoid of logic, it's practically liberalism 2.0
A libertarian society can only work in an all white nation.
"fascists" on Sup Forums have way more influence than some organization growing 19000 members in 2 years. Sup Forums is a free speech platform where the best ideology wins. Too bad you've lost the argument.
>announce libertarianism
>get told the risks
>ignore them like a retard and defiantly cheer things while they're (barely) working as "hah! see racists!"
>lose more and more ground
>your system breaks
>be retarded
>be replaced
>blame everybody but yourself
You'd literally have to get in a space ship and find another planet to set it up. Or be really restrictive on who you let into your society and have methods in place for if it's headed to disaster.
Neither of these seem likely to happen so you're fucked, at best if you take power you'll just get concern trolled to death.
LMAO
Fascists are a meme. Communists grow out of it and get jobs or become roastie hippies.
you just made no sense.
when you make liberty a priority you change the environment and breed a group of independent earners. your arguments i flawed and i imagine your solution is worse.
you are creating a strawman. i never said i cared about what they do to each other. i have a gun and will protect my property. i dont give a fuck.
i dont give a fuck about their plots. the national guard will do their jobs in the case of racial violence.
your only argument is violence and racial unrest. these are easily solved with gun ownership and a strong national guard. you did not refute any of my economic points.
dont know where you live, but where i live no black person would dare touch my shit and i would not dare touch theirs.
>DSA has grown to over 25,000 members from 6,000 in 2015
In a country of 320 Million
what does race have anything to do with liberty?
a libertarian system cannot break because there is nothing to break. there is no welfare, no fed, no centralized power. nothing CAN break. we all become independent.
buy a gun and mind the dollar.
Everything.
>Identity Evropa has what, a couple hundred members tops?
Much much more if you take into account the entire US.
how so?
i could not give less of a fuck if my neighbor is brown, purple, or green.
just leave my property, my income, and my rights alone.
if that person does not commit a violent act, does not demand a welfare check, and shuts the fuck up at night i dont care.
>exclusively in areas where non-whites live
Hey, what if we remove the non-whites to combat hate?
and if they do i can use legal counterforce and demand help from the national guard.
>i never said i cared about what they do to each other.
Never said you did. You implied that a disdain for brown people came from "not wanting to share freedom" with them, when it's based on their actions, not some arbitrary nonsense you pulled out of your ass.
>i have a gun and will protect my property. i dont give a fuck.
I've got many. Good for you.
>i dont give a fuck about their plots
Only because you still believe that all people are inherently good and capable of living well in polite society, and that given the chance to get rid of government's overreach, people who have zero ambition who never want to do anything of value will rise up and be productive. What a fucking joke.
>dont know where you live, but where i live no black person would dare touch my shit and i would not dare touch theirs.
Do you live within 50 miles of brown people in any significant number? If so, you're at risk, because once there's nothing to be taken in the cities post-sacking, they'll be coming to a neighborhood near you.
See, thing is this - I agree with many points that libertarianism has to offer, but the whole fucking kumbaya the people will all work and live in harmony once we remove 90% of government nonsense is just plain silly. Do we need to remove a shitload of government regulation and overreach? Yes. Will it suddenly bring humanity together once we have more "freedom"? No.
As someone already said, libertarianism only works in a homogenous society of people who want to work by their own hand and who prefer to not rely on gibs. Now that 30% of the USA is comprised of brown people who do NOT want to work and want free shit, along with about 15-20% of whites who feel that way, how do you think things will end up?
>a libertarian system cannot break because there is nothing to break
Sure it can, they just vote for more government control.
>i could not give less of a fuck if my neighbor is brown, purple, or green.
>if that person does not commit a violent act,
That's where you keep fucking up.
There are more guns in this country than there are people.
The vast majority of the military is right-wing as fuck.
You have your work cut out for you.
>if that person does not commit a violent act, does not demand a welfare check
That brown, purple or green person is considerably more likely to commit a violent act and demand a welfare cheque.
Something tells me your a shill, but keep tryin
cringefag I need something to laugh at.
>winning
lel no
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>THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CULTURE
Are you fucking retarded? Even the mere idea that a human being has dignity and rights is a western CULTURAL idea. It stems from western civilization and our roots in Christianity.
You think those Chinese immigrants living down the street from you believe in that? Fuck no, they're insects that want to live a controlled, regimented life, and they will advocate it happening to you. THAT is cultural. Culture serves as a basis for your values, neither just stands in a vacuum.
Thanks for reminding me about this.
They have really updated their image.
I will definitely be joining. Its $40 a year, but they seem to be expanding into community services, which is cool as fuck
>what is population density
Every time lmao.
lol what a bunch of fugly looking chodes
>it costs to join a communist group
i dont believe all people are god. i dont care if the society is not polite. if they dont work they die of starvation.
your last point is shit. you have the right to use counterforce. you are literally admitting that you are giving tax money to black people because you are afraid they might hurt you. the truth is that after a certain period of unrest (in which the national guard will be very busy) things will calm down and life will go on.
local banks will open and fail (good ones will remain).
interest rates will rise.
deflation will kick in as gold standard appears (might cause some trouble but will stabilize)
spending will drop
taxes will drop
slow, ensured growth will replace uncontrolled printing and inflation for the sake of Keynesian bullshit.
i love freedom
i dont mind dying for it
my ancestors did not mind dying for it either
thats why im american
I know one thing from history: if socialism will win, people will lose.
you do realize in Germany commies rapidly rose the right wing fringe rose in response...
How does your average Russian view socialism and the legacy of the USSR?
well that's how it used to be, but you see you lost. so you're wrong
read the second part.
second part.
christianity has nothing to do with. eastern europe was christian. they were slaves to russia for centuries.
the west is different because we separated society and state and endorsed individualism.
hence magna carta. hence american revolution. hence the eu will eventually fail.
the west is meant to be free. christianity has been (often) a force of indoctrination. i believe in the ubermensch.
>DSA has grown to over 25,000 members from 6,000 in 2015.
Yeah, maybe, but how many aren't faggots, LARPing dweebs. or outright nut jobs?
See- we really cut that number down by about 90%.
>what is population density
The cities will become a lot less dense population-wise in a flash in a SHTF scenario once the niggers and spics rape and pillage every white household within those cities, considering that many have 30-70% non-white populations.
Chicago, for example, is now less than 45% white. Take 1.5 million angry vengeful brown people vs. a bunch of weaponry-neutered white people (since you have to be a fucking master to find a way to get a gun legally in Chicago), and watch it all change overnight.
if it was it can be again. all things repeat.
>pic related
I think these guys do great work but seriously, this nigger can't even get pants that fit correctly? A seamstress would charge like 10 bucks a pant to have it fit well. Jesus Christ this pisses me off..
>population density
>20k members
A Few faggy cities vs the rest of the country. Keep living your delusional city fag echo chambers. You are literally trying to recreate Rome, and tell me again, how'd that work out? Oh yea, all the rural folk stormed the city and burned it to the ground, such is the cycle of society in general. Why are liberals this fucking brain dead?
The second part's irrelevant if they don't care about what you want.
>Socialism will win.
That'd be the first time in history. It's always starved itself.
no i meant this:
"and if they do i can use legal counterforce and demand help from the national guard."
Damigo's a midget, you can't blame him for not finding fitting clothes.
>a libertarian system cannot break because there is nothing to break.
It's called voting and you'll find out it's power when you wake up one day to a different set of laws.
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cant vote for something unconstitutional. our constitution was initially designed for a libertarian society. i can vote a man who supports murder into office. dont mean he will make murder legal.
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plus state and local power will greatly diminish that problem.
wrong, the Roman Empire split into Constantinople and The Roman Church and got destroyed by Protestants, Jews and Muslims (same thing really)
Damn user, I used to say I was libertarian to hide my powerlevel in public.
It worked perfectly fine but now you've ruined that, now I don't want to even be remotely connected to this level of cuckoldry.
Thanks for that, user.
>your last point is shit.
Oh, that point about half the populating now receiving some sort of gibs from the government wanting to keep receiving more gibs is false? Show me where I'm wrong, retard, because you know I'm right. The fact that you ACTUALLY ASSUME that taking away the gibs won't lead to race war overnight is comical, but sad. Once you get on the gibs train, 99% stay on that ride, and do not want you to abolish the system that provides for them. Ask a bunch of feral nigs and indigent whites who are on the system how much they'd like it if you "freed them from the government's oppression" at the cost of all the things they receive without working. If you make it back from your polling alive, I'll be amazed.
>you are literally admitting that you are giving tax money to black people because you are afraid they might hurt you
No, I'd like it phased out in a way that makes sense. Nice assumption, tho, since it prevents you from entertaining anything other than your gay beliefs.
>the truth is that after a certain period of unrest
And, after a few million deaths and cities razed to the ground, it'll all magically be okay!
>i love freedom i dont mind dying for it
Well, removing the gibs program overnight will almost certainly give you much better odds of dying over your new freedom.
Like I said, I agree on a need for massive government overhaul/reduction and huge changes to social programs, but the whole "LET'S FLIP THE SWITCH AND IT'LL BE PERFECT!" thing is just so cringey to believe that taking away from the people who gave up on self-sufficiency won't cause millions of deaths from revolt against your new smaller/less effective at crushing an uprising government.
And how much legal counterforce do you want to use?
I would prefer to use none because each time I use some there would be a chance of me being injured or dying.
For example, I don't want to be hit by a car so I walk on the sidewalk where cars are banned. You're wanting to walk on the road with the excuse "I don't care what comes down here so long as they don't hit me and if they do I'll have to dodge".
Then it gets amended.
The fact that you think a piece of paper is immutable shows what a fuckhead you are - look at Europe.
You'll just have parts of the law not being enforced and separate societies forming.
Your ideology dies.
You are responding to facts with theory.
>DSA has grown to over 25,000 members
I guess I need to go buy 25 more cans of ammo.
Democratic Socialists are fucking cucks of the highest order. I can at least respect a hardcore Marxist and the Antifags because they're willing to get rough and do the heavy lifting. DemSocs are basically bouregois academics and middle manager types who believe that when The Revolution comes they'll be getting cushy jobs in academi and teaching and helping to run the ruling party.
> Cant even get Bernie through a primary
> "Fascists" get their candidate into the whitehouse
So they are a group of 25000 losers. Still a group of failures just more failures.
>cant vote for something unconstitutional
You think they care about the constitution? It's not a magical sheet of paper, it just describes rules that they'd like you to follow (under the thread of punishment). Besides, the federal courts have constantly ruled against things that have been explicitly stated in the constitution (like Trump can ban immigration from any country).
>and if they do i can use legal counterforce and demand help from the national guard.
You think you'll be able to just pick up the phone as all major cities are ablaze, dial a few numbers, and say "Hello, National Guard? I need you in my small town about 20 miles from where you're stationed, there are 4 carloads of armed niggers pulling up to my home and I'm afraid I may lack the firepower to fend them off by myself. See you in a minute!"
Man, I was thinking you were serious for a bit, but now, this is just trolling b8 garbage.
Russia is poor nowadays, but it's far no richer than Soviet Union. I can't imagine how could Soviet Union be wheat importer while Russian Empire and Federation are wheat exporter. Toilet paper appeared only in 1970. No worker could own a car, only officials. There was real story when 2 policemen beat to death KGB agent for deficit sausages.
This is hard to imagine, but it was real.
> far more richer
Fix
Enjoy your future.
Socialism needs money
Capitalism is really good at making money, and competition is key, so no central government controlling the market
Our system really is fine the way it is, we just need more accountability for wasted funds and useless, inefficient programs
roman empire spread itself too thin. notice how libertarianism supports non interventionism.
cool. never a libertarian to begin with.
i dont care what they want. its unconstitutional. it should a gradual process. them being violent is still not an argument.
so no counterpoint to second point
it wont be magically okay, but it will be better than it is going to be if you dont do anything
who said overnight? i want politicians that will gradually remove welfare spending over time. if you give me a reason why i shouldnt want a politician that does that i will be impressed. you didint reply to any of my economic points so ill assume you somewhat agree.
forgive me if i made the impression i want to do this in a single night.
fair point. but thats a sacrifice im willing to make. considering the end result will be a society of independent people with actual economic freedom thats a risk im willing to take.
>25,000
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There are probably more KKK members.
>There was real story when 2 policemen beat to death KGB agent for deficit sausages.
What a way to go.
>Toilet paper appeared only in 1970
This better be a joke.
>Ausfag
>Thinks he understands the US Constitution
>Makes inaccurate claim regarding Constitution
>Provides no cite
>Still inacurate
>Shiggy diggy
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If large voting bodies can constitutionally ban alcohol in quantities that make a sponge cake illegal, they can make murder legal. Just as long as people believe it to be right. Remember, much of what Hitler and Nazi Germany did was "legal", and much of what Martin Luther King, Jr and the freedom riders did was illegal.