United States of Europe

One budget. One immigration department. One police force. One army.
One question for any country with dreams of sovereignty. Is your anus lubed?
>archive.is/fwrI3
>Germany's foreign minister is praising French President Emmanuel Macron's speech as a "passionate argument against nationalism" and for European reforms.
>Macron wants to sign a new French-German cooperation treaty next January and proposed that the two aim to share business laws by 2024.
>French President Emmanuel Macron is proposing a European asylum agency and standard EU identity documents to better handle migration flows.
>He suggested the asylum agency to speed up and harmonize migration procedures, after years of EU arguing over how many migrants to take in and where.
>Macron also warned against the dangers of anti-immigrant nationalism, saying it goes against the principles of a shared Europe born from the tragedy of world wars.
>French President Emmanuel Macron has proposed a shared European military intervention force and a shared defense budget.
>He wants to open the French military to European soldiers and proposed other EU member states do the same on a voluntary basis.
>He also proposed the creation of a European intelligence academy to better fight against terrorism, and a shared civil protection force.

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Works for the US, China (both also have vastly different regions) so why not?

At the time of federation America's states held similar values and culture. Now all states are forced into globalist agendas based on the will of elites in Washington and California despite being opposed to those agendas. Muslim immigrants get settled in states that don't want them just like is happening within the EU.

Does anyone have that cartoon of the EU supporter wearing the beret?
he says things like
>I feel more European than anything else
>we should have a super state like the austro-hungarian empire

Whats wrong if federation you dumb cunt?
Each state still retains sovereignty and rule over itself.
We all know how horrible ancient empires were too their people, amirite? not like every empire had people living in prosperity and peace for aeons

>the US and China are examples of """working""" superstates
Wew

>Whats wrong if federation you dumb cunt?
French doesn't speak German and vice versa. Rest of EU doesn't speak either of those. Project like that is bound to fail hard with lots of bloodshed if necessary. Right is on the rise in Europe. More states will leave the EU just like Britain did if they keep pushing shit like that.

The further you remove the mechanics of power away from the people being governed the higher likelyhood of corruption and the less chance of recourse.

Already Europe is legislated by unelected people and you want to put all money, military and border control in their hands?

They all speak english.

French President Emmanuel Macron has proposed a joint budget for countries sharing the euro currency, to allow for investment in European projects and help stabilize the Eurozone in case of economic crisis.
In a speech about Europe's future to students at the Sorbonne university in Paris, he said this budget could at first be financed by tougher taxes on internet giants and climate change-related taxes.
He added the budget would eventually need to come also from the national budgets of countries sharing the euro currency, for instance using domestic taxes on businesses.

TAX IT!

Luigi, Hans and Frog would rather piss on their mothers grave than mumble a single English word.

They really want us to start killing don't they?

Wonderfully succinct, user.

Oy vey looks like it is time for Romanticism ( Polish fanatical nationalism) to be reborn.
Aryans are really not going to like this.
There's nothing better than nationalist Uprising during Sunday evening

that map is false as fuck

no thanks. If this happens I'm moving eastbound towards the Baltics.

Fuck off.

>EU
>Army
Yea, sure, army of arabs.

>goes against german constitution
>would need approval of the german people
>to support this is a death sentence for every established party

Never going to happen, Macron can ask for whatever he wants. EU will never have a common budget / military because germany would have to pay and guarantee debts for other nations.

A superstate definitely needs to be a thing, but not led by leftist morons but by good, centrist, intelligent people. A goddamn nationalist empire.

United Europe is bad under the left, badish under the right but good if center

>climate change-related taxes.
>not even calling it mad made warming anymore!

Just tax the climate changing XD

What the fuck are you even talking about? The EU can never be "nationalistic" empire by design.

It's from a UK (((newspaper))):
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federation would have been a good idea and was possible in the 70's but it didnt happen and that ship has sailed

Dark green is EU members with more people for than against a federated Europe

-Wikipedia

Didn't Poland say that they will pull Brexit 2.0?

I just wanna apply for refugee somewhere outside of this hellhole.

>this level of insanity

the jews really want everything to culminate in a biblical race war

>germany would have to pay and guarantee debts for other nations.
You already do that.

Macron is talking about taxing all members into a shared budget. It will start the same way as the immigration policies you fags have
>France and I are paying into a shared pool the rest of you need to pull your weight don't make me get out the sanctions.
Then the puppets in those countries cave for (((reasons))) and suddenly it's the new normal

The way things are going right now i wouldn't blame them, however -xits aka quitting is not the way to go about it. We need to fix the EU, not abandon it. Open trade and open borders between members are good and have been good.

you dont need an EU for that, only multilateral treaties

Its obvious the EU is headed this way and thats why the Brits try to bail out. Thing is it will not happen during my lifetime so I don't give too much of a fuck about it.

>fieldwork done Spring of 2014, commissioned by the (((EU))) themselves
I think I'll stick with the PEW research.

>We need to fix the EU
Can't reason with communists

>We need to fix the EU, not abandon it.
Why is that exactly so? What do I get out of betraying my nation and people and selling them out to Brussels for some new attempt at making a new "communist utopia". Only allowed unification of Europe is total annexation From the USA. I want my freedom and 2nd amendment not a gulag.

>open borders between members are good
This could have been great. Sadly the opportunity has been squandered by the commies at the top who took the principal so far that it has now morphed into an active purge of all national identities and cultures.

Not to mention the Afrian/Middle East migrant scandal.

It's funny. The people who came up with the EU thought it would make another war in europe impossible. Instead it's just making everyone pissed off and violent.

>this could have been great
ikr
But instead they chose to import shitskins who inadvertantly drove member states far right.

Because its good for trade when borders are open and people can travel wherever in Europe without having to go through 5 hours of border control every fucking border along the way, the problem is those fucking garbage leeches Greece, Spain, Cyprus etc. A big united Europe could help deter all the human garbage coming in from africa. What do you gain? Prosperity is what you gain. EU should never have gotten bigger than western Europe. Benelux, Germany, France, Scandinavia, Swiss, Austria and UK, all it should have stayed at.

Exactly, the idea was great for Europeans traveling, i can go to France, Denmark, Poland wherever no problem, i can order stuff in Germany or France and it will be delivered 1/2 days from now because shit doesn't have to get scanned, trade goes faster and easier making it cheaper thus better.

But indeed they fucking abused it to import human garbage

>good for trade when borders are open and people can travel wherever in Europe without having to go through 5 hours of border control every fucking border along the way
Like German user above has said is all you need for that is multilateral treaties.

Luigi Hans and Frog are right though. English is a quite ugly language and UK wouldn't even be part of europe.

The EU would be a powerhouse today if they'd limited membership to only the countries you listed. Instead they decided that the EU should evolve into Socialism For Nations™ and allow membership to countries that they knew would never contribute anything.

>italy was a founsing member

Is the EU likely to change it's common language now that the Bongs are out? Will you be speaking German soon, Luigi?

Stop trying to undermine a monolithic Europe you stupid kike.

>praising a passionate argument against nationalism
this is extremetly abusrb statement and no wonder because socialists never admit failure in their understanding or rather its in their benefit to not admit it. nationalism is what holds the ground against tyrants, thats how i can remain free, thats why i m independent. i do not desire to be consumed by some damn system, i desire to remain free. a puppet cannot never understand free mans throughts.

oh and i already warned of this, that the officals of different countries are forced to write their names on anti-racist papers and eventually these officals will be replaced with EUs own officials. just watch as your countries and lives taken over by this evil.

do not allow this to happen, tell them simply the words "so you hate x" x being your own people and keep at it, because they cannot retaliate in any way in their way of thinking. you do not give them any other answer than this one. create shitstorms, the socialists benefit from passive and silent people, do not succumb to passive attitude, so learn to be wrong in your own eyes and yet be okay with it, so you can throw arguments right and wrong like its nobodys business. it wont hurt you, you will still be here for months and years to come, there is no such thing as losing if you keep speaking your mind. you are allowed to piss people off, good and bad, because they are not either of those, and they will not achieve anything against you, ever, this i know.

You don't know what you're talking about you obese mulatto mutt

t. american

[oinks in leftpol]

Amen

This is why they seek to erase history.
>we have always been a multicultural society
>islam is German
>life was't better before

Learn the truth so you can speak it

Where's the swastika? Communism killed far more people.

I wonder if I can guess the ideology of the person that created the poster. Hmmm, really gets the noggin joggin.

>tfw Europe will join together into a glorious and prosperous union
>tfw UK will be left outside like a little tumorous growth sticking out of its ass, abandoned by Europe, America and its Commonwealth "allies"
>tfw perpetual decline and irrelevance on a global scale thanks to ignorance
>tfw will always have the stigma of being a "little englander" so can't join together with my European brothers

Brexit is the death of the UK.

most sane europeans support brexit.
EU is shit tier.

>t. butthurt remoaner

I remember being in China and realising how irrelevant not even Germany is, but also Europe. We´re just another remote country that hardly impinges on some places at all. Europe ist the result of countless wars between brothers. A United States of Europe seems to me the only worthwhile political objective today. We must have a European legal system, a European appeal court, a common currency the same weights and measures, the same laws. We must make of all peoples of Europe one people, and Brussle the capital oft he world. I just hope we Unite soon. 1500 years of constant warfare between each other is more than enough for us to understand that we are stronger and undefeatable together, long live Europe! >youtube.com/watch?v=ASVf4DqdDDs&feature=youtu.be

How's that flammable drinking water working for you, 52%?

>letter to a friend

> Sup Forums doesn't know about Altiero Spinelli

Shut up cuck, why don't you sort your own country out before you start trying to control others

I like the talk about helping refugees and controlling the return of Nazi style nationalism but the military stuff is troubling.

most disgusting thing i read all year

>imagine a club where you pay to have your children raped by illiterate, bronze-age welfare parasites
RAALYF MURDS MEH FUNKS

> A club that gives you access to a huge market and allows you to pay minimum taxes
> A club that fucks your labor force because of salarial disparities
> A club where lobbyists can influence laws that affect all its members
> A club where terrorists and criminals are free to cross borders
>WhyEurope
Why, indeed.

I don't understand why the EU would need an army. After all, open borders are great right? So if the Chinese want to drive a thousand tanks into Berlin this should be all good?

Oh wait, that's right. Borders are bad when the people-at-the-top have control of the territory in question. And borders are good when the area is held by a competing group of people-at-the-top.

>>He also proposed the creation of a European intelligence academy to better fight against terrorism, and a shared civil protection force.

Problem Reaction Solution

I'm certain the EU will get its own (((Patriot Act))) soon enough.