Was Berserker armor a mistake?

Was Berserker armor a mistake?

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It was a way to progress the story and the only way to make guts stronger other than turning into him into goku

>turning Guts stronger at all
He didn't need that, he held his own against Zodd without the Berserker armor. Besides, Apostles didn't need to get stronger than what we saw, they're already OP.

Dumbass!

If he wants to lose the brand, he needs to lose the armor as well right?

Rude.

The armor have us Artorias in DS.

No.

I don't like that he looks like batman here, I need the full hound helmet. And nah it's not,it's like people who bitch about haki in One Piece or that Luffy had to come up with creative ways to beat a villain everytime pre haki. Like what kind of mirrors are there that we can use to beat kizaru or maybe they'll use a hose to beat Akainu.

Eventually that would have gotten stale if every fight with Guts is, Guts gets beaten up to pulp than once the apostle least expects it, he gets a face full of arm cannon (Snake Baron, Count, Rosine).

I do wish he was a bit more "savage" with it though.

he got absolutely punked once Zodd transformed though, and he still would get ripped apart by Zodd if he fought him now even with the Berserk armor.

Zodd routinely stalemates Skull Knight and the SK would crush guts like a twig if they fought.

>Post the second most annoying character
>Has decent opinion
Who would have guessed?

Come on, he can't beat Griffith's ass as a human so he'd need a holy power or some sort. The armor is demonic, and darkness can't fight darkness. At least that's my opinion on it

>the SK would crush guts like a twig if they fought.

nice headcanon

>he got absolutely punked once Zodd transformed though
No. He got a hit in that made Zodd bleed, and while Zodd's hits pushed him back, he didn't get touched directly and didn't get hurt.

If anything, Wyald did a better performance against Golden Age Guts than Zodd did against Conviction Guts. Yet Guts beat Wyald 1v1.

Also, Skull Knight is stated to be stronger than Zodd by Rickert, and might be holding back

>Not liking Serpico

he is beautiful.

I guess thematically I can see some issues people might have with The Berserk Armor being that Guts is supposed to be full human and his appeal is that he can go toe to toe with monsters through sheer force of will rather than by shounen power ups. But I'm fine with the Berserk armor cause unlike other powerups (Super Saiyan, Gears, etc) it actually has repercussions and he can't go crazy with it. I'm still confused at some people who think Guts will turn to an apostle though, what are they smoking.

We will probably never find out the full repercussions of the armor.

How do you people remember the names of literally who enemies of a mangas ?

Demonic and holy are pretty much the same thing in the Berserk universe.

Please lurk for two years or fuck off before ever posting on Sup Forums.

The Berserk armor repercussions are boring, Guts being sick for XX chapters is just ... meh.

I would go completely gay for serpico

>a mangas
This is THE mangas

That Helmet is straight fugly, but I enjoy that there are legitimate caveats that comes with the armor usage and not faggy videogames rules such as 'user is temporarily invincible'.

But the Apostles started banding together, which only made sense, and a Godhand materialized in the world and there is no way it would be as easy to beat as an Apostle.

No. Griffith will probably destroy it one way or another because his powers are literally hack

So you just read the manga over and over again ?

You can't ignore that the armor also adds to tension. You wonder when Guts will use the armor and just snap and kill everyone.

Guts should never have the opportunity to be as physically strong/imposing as an apostle. Black Swordsman arc was cool because he was always on the ropes and still able to pull out wins.
Full reprocussions is you go full skull knight
There are maybe 10 memorable villains in Berserk. Snake Baron, Count, and Rosine are among them.
That's what the moon child is for. Griffith's decision to rape Caska is going to be his downfall because the child will allow Guts to strike his corporeal body.

Then don't have Guts face 10 Apostles at once. The Godhand is another matter, it's more mind-time fuckery.

>losing all senses
>get lost in hatred
>the fucking armor devours your body

Yeah, pretty meh. Go back to One Piece, faggot.

Wouldn't the Four Kings of the World be considered as actual holy entities compared to Godhand and such? But yeah Grifith seems to be holy nowadays so it all stopped making sense

In practice it means, during the fight :
>he destroys his enemy by doing flips and sometimes almost friendlyfires but oh surprise he doesn't because he recognizes Casca or because Schierke did something who'd have expected
After the fight :
>he spends 10 chapters in bed, people comment on how bad he looks and there's some foreshadowing he's going to become a cripple

It's not like there's something wrong with the way the Berserker armor was written, but it just doesn't add anything to the story the way it's done. Any fight with good old Guts is more interesting than with the Berserker armor.

>Apostles form an army
>but they still attack the guy who has killed 7+ of them one by one
No. That is stupid even in Shonens.

>mfw all of these Berserk threads

Jesus you newfaggots need to off yourselves. You're so darn annoying.

Thanks for your valuable input, tripfag.

Where is Hawk, noname and the Cascafag? Am I too late? Have they faded away into oblivion?

Plenty of ways to avoid 10 vs 1 situations. It wouldn't be new for Guts to use his brain to pull something hopeless off. Remember when he went pyroman and ambushed Rosine where she wouldn't be able to poison him or fly fast?

Guts would've died at the witch tree house if it weren't for the armor. He was already wearing the armor when he was getting his shit kicked in. So if he just went with his normal gear, he would've just died after the first hit.

Comparing Zodd's old fights doesn't work since he's never serious. He only fights for the thrill of it. He basically just expects Guts to perform at a certain level, then backs off when his expectation is reached. He could've easily stood back up and finish off Guts if he felt like it.

They all live in one city now and there is like a hundred of them. Sure, he could bait 2 or 3 to fight him alone, but the others would realize what is going one.

There's a lot of hype right now with the anime and game. Plus were finally getting more of the manga tomorrow

user, do you honestly think Guts can match SK now or even give him a decent fight. It's obvious what SK's role is, and he's not going to be surpassed by Guts until near the end of the story.

The fight was too short really, but even Griffith in the golden age (who's so far below Guts in the conviction arc) was able to wound Zodd more than Guts here. It's clear that Miura's intent here is to show that while Guts can hang with and stalemate Zodd's human form, he's overwhelmed by his apostle form.

I do think SK is stronger if even by a marginal amount, I don't know if he's holding back, but I do think the fights they have aren't to the death. It's clear they have a friendly rivalry rather than either of them wanting to kill the other. I just think it's a bit weird how we didn't get to see their fight in Conviction or even at Flora's place.

who wouldn't, he is the most magnificent looking character in the series. Second best looking behind Guts.

Don't make me repeat myself, user.

No. It was a logical upgrade that made sense in universe.

He wore armour before, and the armour is not the be all end all. It has major drawbacks and actually doesn't make him stronger.

Which is what people don't get.

It doesn't make him stronger. It makes someone fight at full capacity, but it's still his strength.

So why is there an issue with a full body suit of armour, that doesn't act like a mech suit or some dumb shit, and just makes someone fight to the death and maybe lose themselves in rage.

I love the berserker armour, it wasn't just "LOL THIS MAKES YOU 100X STRONGER".

Damn I've been out of the loop. Shame the videogame is going to have a Japanese equivalent of a T rating (no dismemberment or gore.)

No, here's the first page after they put Guts in the Berserker armor. He's directly in Berserker mode.

We've only seen Guts fight naked/wounded, and in Berserker mode (but still wounded). No regular Guts in that fight.

>It's clear that Miura's intent here is to show that while Guts can hang with and stalemate Zodd's human form, he's overwhelmed by his apostle form.
I don't see why he would show Guts blocking/avoiding Zodd's blows if that was the case. It showed Zodd had more physical strength than Guts but it's the case for every Apostle Guts fought. Actually, Rosine Mk.II overpowered Guts a lot more than Zodd did.

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That's cool and all but could you do us all a favour and stop?

I don't know which helmet is greater: that one or Hound's one.

>favour

Get fucked disgusting europoor. I've been here since before you were born.

Yeah I'm pretty excited. I'll still probably enjoy them even if they are bad. I don't really expect all that much from Berserk outside of the manga anymore senpai

I'm Canadian you fucking cuck. I was trying to be nice and help you; but it's clear your beyond fucking help.

I'm not the only one that hated Guts and Zodd teaming up to fight mist Ganishka?

Skull looks better to me, but the hound one is awesome too

As long as it's similar to Dynasty Warriors or Samurai Warriors it should be cool. I wanna hack and slash people with the dragonslayer.

Even worse.

The game should at least be somewhat enjoyable but I am worried about the anime, I don't like the CGI very much and they made Guts look kind of strange

I didn't like how sudden was the justification for it. That is, right before Zodd fights Ganishka, we have a prophecy from that insufferable bitch. I'd have believed if it had been donde before. Instead it just looked like a cheap device.

Pretty disappointed that they're not animating the best arc in the manga Lost Children arc. At least that's what I heard.

You heard right my friend. We're getting maybe 1 or 2 episodes of Black Swordsman Guts and then we go right into the Conviction Arc.

Yeah just from the trailers it appears that we wont be getting lost children

Why? They had a common enemy, stronger than both of them. It makes sense for them to team up. The prophecy was not needed

I have never liked the hound helmet. I dislike how the mouth bits curl up like hippy elf shoes

God what a disappointment. That arc was very important to Guts' character...

Almost everything after Conviction Arc.was a mistake.

Yeah it sucks. Maybe it'll still be good though.

As long as my little Puck is animated. I'd do lewd things to his butt hole.

fuckin gay

Wanna see something?

If I say no would it stop you?

It will probably get M/18+ in the west. The Fist of the North Star musou game was also rated CERO D, but they increased the gore in the western release

No.

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That's hecked up.

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why?

You like it.

Too late.

Reported.

S-See you in 3 days, user-kun...

>implying we will miss you

I can kind of see why, it might seem cheesy somewhat. I don't have a problem with it though. Zodd is one of the few apostles that I don't think Guts hates, he hasn't really done anything to earn his ire. He didn't participate in the eclipse and even saved his ass against Wyald. So a team up for the moment thing isn't that bad, als it's cool that he's the only other person other than Griffith who he let him use as a flying carpet.

Oh you will. They always do.

>missing tripfags
lmao

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Mine to and I didn't want to report it but we can't give tripfags any breaks.

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A kind user drew it for me many years ago. I normally keep it safe but I thought I should share it and contribute to this thread. It's very rare so take care of it.

Why do you even reply to this loser?

I just got done watching Hellraiser tonight for the first time and holy shit I never realized how much stuff berserk took from hellraiser

>the 4 godhands = Cenobites
>behelit = puzzle box
>Griffith turning into a demon = 2nd hellraiser movie with that guy also transforming into a demon

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>Why do you even reply to this loser?
>Unironically replying to me, probably a bigger loser
kek

Now you shall realize that Guts is just a more intense Ash Williams.

I think it was. It won't stop me from enjoying it however. Golden Age just can't be topped. Conviction is pretty neat as well.

There are lotslots of designs taken fhell raiser. Like hell in second part is the inspiration for hell in berserk

Try and guess what this is from.

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Conan

Just don't reply. He's feeding his need for social interaction from you first timers (not that he's old, 2014 newfag).

Filter and ignore.
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Ash always reminded me of Guts.

Well, Miuara changed a good amount of Guts' character during early drafts because he was too much like Ash. He loves Evil Dead.

Watching Griffith do that farewell ceremony for spirits is incredibly depressing since he knows they're all going to that infinite hell stream in a few moments

hoooollyyyyyy shiiiiitttt you're right!!! I don't know how to feel about this. I thought hellraiser was a good movie and I love berserk so I guess this is pretty awesome.

Yeah, I thought as much. Miura has good taste despite his obsession with idolm@ster and peeing lolis.