MGTOW FAGS: Cutting women out of the picture is retarded. The goal is to raise a healthy, whole family...

MGTOW FAGS: Cutting women out of the picture is retarded. The goal is to raise a healthy, whole family. You'll only ever achieve a portion of that without a waifu. Just because many women are retarded doesn't mean you should never try to find someone. Thats like having a cold and cutting out your nose to stop the congestion. Treat the damn cold. If some of you athiest autists would go to church your realize that Christianity produces very fine men and women who realize the importance of family. Avoided proddies though. They are hopeless in distinguishing degeneracy and loving behaviour.

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I'm fucking tomorrow.

legalize rape

>inb4 muh fake wombs
>inb4 feeding your test tube baby tendies while you both browse Sup Forums all day

No woman wants me though

>Go to church.

I tried. It didn't work. I live in one of America's most Conservative cities. It has a penchant for hardline Evangelism. I bounced around a couple of churches, I integrated myself into the young adult groups, etc.

It was always the same. I'd talk to a girl, get a number, take her out and every single one of those whores would eventually tell me that they weren't virgins. They all had the exact same talking points, too.
>God forgives
>Hate the sin, not the sinner
>Like you haven't sinned?/Muh let he who is without sin...
>I thought I loved him!
>You're not going to find someone better than me, I've only slept with one person and it was a LONG relationship!

Pretty blackpilled on the church at the moment. The women there are just insufferable.

>raising a healthy family
>in 2017
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I can raise a healthy family with my sex robot pony wife and an artificial womb.

>If some of you athiest autists would go to church your realize that Christianity produces very fine men and women

What did I just say? You illiterate quitter... quilliterate? I said avoid protestants/proddies. They have no actually meaningful moral compass. Go to the more conservative and traditional churches in older traditions like high Latin mass or orthodox. You should be able to find someone there. Hell, ask the fathers there to connect you with some seriously uptight folks. Your next best bet would be to move to a rural area and meet farming families, menonites, or amish/hudderite colonies. It seems removed and regressive but it's better than dying alone or marrying an absolute twat.

I'd say rural is too far leaf. Suburbs that my family lives in are great actually, my neighborhood is just not that great due to socio-economics and blah blah. Definitely be smart about your willy though! I don't think it is too hard to see who is bad for you..

Your gut will let you know.

Has anyone drawn pics of Christchan meeting her husband at a church function? That would make sense.

You could even do some super cringy shit like put it to music. Allison Krause singing Down In The River To Pray, or some suitable song. Christ Chan meets her love during the ceremony and they start proper courtship. (If it isn't a little bit cringy, it is not a love scene. They don't have to be X rated but Pol won't care.)

"Catholics I talk to are pretty quick to acknowledge that there are problems, and ofc even one is too many. That being said, I have found that non-Catholics are prone to a lot of deception and mudslinging when it comes to this topic. Kids are abused far more frequently at school and at home than they are at church, and the john Jay report is a very illuminating (if nauseating) exploration of the topic. No question though, the homosexual lobby in the Vatican is real, and forces have been trying to infiltrate the church for decades, including but not limited to Marxists, liberals, Soviets and homosexuals.

More controversially, nobody seems willing to entertain the possibility of false accusations, even though the ratio of convicted:abused is very low."

Says a friend o' mine

The age of roasties is over

>suburbia...
Why didn't you just say, "DEBT that my family lives in is great actually"
Not to mention the fact that most neighbourhoods in modern suburbs are poorly connected, devoid of authentic culture and community and downright ugly.

T. A suburb kid.

Oy, Jay Report? Sauce/Link?

Well THEY lived in an area where the average house was over $500k. Want me to call it gated? They are in an apartment now to move into a better area near a laketown on the north side. As for me, yup, DEBT is my first, middle, last name, and title.

I didn't limit myself to Protestantism, I tried two Catholic ones, as well. Not only were the girls just as bad, the places were filled with Hispanics.

With regard to Orthodox Churches, we have two here. One's a fairly liberal Greek Orthodox one, the other is a deracinated Church that, from the outside looking in, seems like Protestants who want some form of tradition.

If you've got a specific type of Church, feel free to shoot, because I'm at the end of my rope. I'm not marrying if I don't hit it off with a virgin. By the time I find myself in a place financially to relocate to the rural U.S. (Which isn't a guarantee of female virginity, by the way), I'll be far too old to be making demands like that.

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Never seen one in motion before, those titties actually look great.

MGTOW does not mean that you ignore women. It just means that you stop being pussywhipped and do whatever the fuck you deem to be the right path for yourself.

Christian women beyond the age of 20 are so shit, they're often an ex drug addict prostitute

You tradcucks are clueless

Change the laws and maybe you'll see birthrates rise again. But really all you care about is convincing men to cuck themselves, because that's what the laws are designed to do as they are now

>anime
>waifu
Why are you concerned about having children it when it will never be a part of your life?

fuck off we need to ban divorce and alimony, beat the shit out of cheating whores, legalize wife beating, and make girls wear the veil in church

>oh I wasted my youth away being a druggy whore better go ask God's forgiveness now that I've got my fill of degeneracy
There, the modern female church goer.

Are you ugly or poor? I really can't help you. They're making new virgins everyday! Hell Muslims will have 72. Good fucking luck. Or... Good luck fucking. In seriousness though I'd still keep looking in church. It's your best bet because though it's not perfect, it's still a hell of a lot better than anything else this shitshow called the world could offer. Besides are you a virgin?

and?

You can't raise a family with used women. It just doesn't work.

society is too far gone my friendo

just stick your dick in the sexbots if you don't want your soul crushed even more than it already is

Lel. I learned chanspeak to communicate myself to you hopeless fegs. I've seen an episode of attack in titan once though.

You fell for the fucking christcuck meme you god damn retard.

HAHA if you honestly believe that you'll find a fucking virgin christian you are out of your mind there might some in some third world slavic land but sure as fuck isnt any in the first world.

My grandfather on my mothers side was 8 years older than his wife, My grandfather on my mothers side was 12 years older than his wife. There's probably a few christian virgin girls who hold out until 21-23. So according to my calculations, you just need to be financially capable by the age of 29-35.

>ronaldo is a loser
K

>Christ is a loser

No one said you had to marry THAT church goer. If you can actually talk to an women without shitting yourself, which is more than I expect, then you'll be able to court a few suitable qt's. If modern women are the problem, find an old fashioned, butter churnin', goat herdin', dick wrastlin', grill.

How am I supposed to raise a family if I can't attract a woman or provide for one?

Ethan, stop shitposting my texts all over Sup Forums

Fuck off you fag.

You'll attract a woman by having goals. If you focus on your conquest of them, your victory afterward will be short lived. As in a matter of months, maybe a year if you're lucky.

>Are you ugly?
No, like I alluded to in the first post, I have no problem meeting girls. I just haven't met any that are virgins. I'm obviously not Chad, but I look decent enough to avoid dealing with a lack of interest from women.

>Are you poor?
Not poor, but not able to just move at the drop of a hat. I'm still in College.

>In seriousness though I'd still keep looking in church
I'm planning on it, but it's a pretty blackpilling experience. I'm honestly starting to feel the same way about Christians as fedoras do.

>Besides are you a virgin?
Yep. I've had opportunities, but I've abstained. I've actually ended two relationships over the "before marriage issue." The statistics showing just how bad non-virgins are have only cemented my position on premarital sex and marriage. At this point, it's either a virgin wife or involuntary MGTOW.

you both need to FUCK OFF

>You fell for the fucking christcuck meme you god damn retard.
Yeah, of course it's a longshot, but where in the Hell else could you possibly find a virgin?

>inb4 nowhere
If that's the case, I suppose I'll end up as another "childish man who refuses to marry."

I know that I can get away with a minor age gap, but the odds get worse every year.

minor?? nigga I just said 8-12 years what the fuck do you want from me

just fucking focus on yourself until you're at least 25, become a highly attractive man of value. Then you can worry about marriage.

The power of Christ compels you

I know, but I doubt I'll have the kind of money needed to actually swing 8-12 years.

Re-reading all these posts in your voice is hilarious. You still gone until the 30th?
> jealous he doesn't have m8s to shitpost on Sup Forums with
lmaoing at ur lyf

At that point, the odds of finding a virgin drop dramatically, though. They're bad enough right now. There's really no point chasing success when you have to share it with some skank you resent.

donate sperm

YOU FUCKING NIGGER

you're literally just making up excuses so you can be sad little faggots with your 'its all hopeless bawwww' attitude.

If you're fucking 25 you can find a 20 year old virgin at church. You could even find a fucking 18 year old. You don't have to be rich to get a girl with a 12 year age gap faggots, just look for niche 1 in a 1000 girls who won't care. For fucks sake all you need to do is screen girls and constantly be looking for them, you're not going to get a fucking 18 year old virgin fall from the sky onto your dick if you're just sitting around all day. you need to fucking seek it out. You're literally retarded and you can't figure this shit out then you deserve to die alone and afraid quite frankly. Sup Forums is supposed to be enlightened and shit but honestly there are so many fucking idiots with terrible ideas and pathetic losers here. I need a fucking break

Literally the goal of feminism, except it's for both men and women who in turn are to learn to accept each other regardless of whether or not they each follow traditional norms. MGTOW as it has become along with today's "feminism" has been bastardized by misogynists and misandrists alike.

This. Sometimes this kind of approach is also needed!

Yus leaf bru. Then I'm back and we can hunt qt grills at church together.

>Just focus on yourself then find a wife
>You can't just expect a girl to fall from the sky.

Nigger, why do you think I've been wasting my Sundays and Wednesday evenings going to church and doing Young Adult group bullshit? I don't enjoy it. It does nothing for me.

My. Sides.

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>I don't enjoy it. It does nothing for me.
Maybe that's why you fail... God does not bless HEATHENS. Try meaning something sincerely you faaag
>exploiting the beloved church of the king for personal gain.
Kill me if I ever do this.

Seriously.

Daily reminder that since most men are not interesting in wasting their time with women who are saving themselves for marriage it has never been easier to get a virgin bride

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Kek

I'm not a virgin and virgin girls are overrated (feel like they missed out and at risk to cheat) but I don't want someone with more than 3-4 prior sexual partners. Sadly the average western girl has taken at least ten cocks by the time she's 25. Haven't gone totally mgtow, but I will only marry if we bring back slavery, which sadly won't happen.

The church girl/trad woman meme is retarded too.

You want to know how many times I've heard MLK Jr. referenced during sermons? Sure, those were the Protestant ones, but the "brotherhood of man" shit was present in the two Catholic ones, as well. The YA groups are just as bad. People planning parties, and alluding to all sorts of degeneracy.

I like Christianity as a religion, anons. But I'd much prefer to read the Bible alone, or with likeminded people. I am absolutely sick of hearing verses taken out of context, mistranslated or otherwise twisted, in order to push some liberal agenda. It's even more insufferable when they throw in a bit of gaybashing or anti-abortion rhetoric to justify being oh-so-traditional.

The Church is pozzed, and half of the people prancing around today calling themselves Christians deserve Hellfire and brimstone. I'm not a bad person for noting that.

>I'm not a virgin and virgin girls are overrated (feel like they missed out and at risk to cheat)

Literally not supported by any evidence whatsoever. Every study done on likelihood to cheat shows that virgins are the least likely group to cheat.

>spend entire life trying to better myself
>get job
>get house
>get everything I need
>find out woman want worthless niggers and chads
What a waste of time.
So know I just go to work come home play vidja and fap to loli.
Who cares anymore.

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oy vey, another roastie atention-whore bashing about MGTOW......everyday, find a man bitch

Yes, goals like a good jawline, broad shoulders, and being tall.

Why dont you get a nonshit tier woman?

>virgin girls are overrated (feel like they missed out and at risk to cheat)
The only thing retarded here is you. Go spew your poppycock on Reddit.

Hmmm. I will agree on some of those points, but then why would you search in these places for some misguided, "liberal" woman who would probably make you unhappy?

You have to realize that (even referenced in the BIBLE) that this world is owned by Satan. Everything has some sort of corruption, what your character is defines who you are - and the woman you land!

Think of everything you want in a relationship that should be reciprocated, because you should be willing to make those changes as well. I hope you don't give up though, it may be dry for a while but women really love

- Goal oriented, funny men
- Money
- Nice clothes
- Good hygiene
- Similar interests (Opposits attract only in fucking science)
- Capable of leading the family (if you are around that age)

You should take these seriously because if you believe you are lacking in some of these characteristics, more self work may be needed.

Workout. Survival of the fittest. If you lack in body, develop your mind. Study, become more intelligent, meditate, etc.

Meditation helps the most. Too many motherfuckers on here have their thoughts spliced or jumbled up, which isn't really surprising. We are in all of our own echo chambers really, conversing over the net.

These women are less obvious than I would like them to be. How do I find them?

K how do you propose we treat the cold.

O wait, no solution provided.

Hmm......

Could it be?

Could it be that no solution fucking exists you fuckwit?

What if I'm medium-short and like girls taller than me?

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You're fucked.

Honestly... I think we just need to normalize polygamy again... women only really want 20% of the guys, so lets just let them breed with the best males and be done with it... the genepool is suffering.

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That will just cause the other 80% of men to seek out foreign women in different countries.

H U M A
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Best in the opinion of women, which in case you forgot is fucking useless.

So you're saying that we would end up like Muslims?

Explain how this is bad.

Wear elevator shoes manlet.

You can get 3 inches on some good lifts easy.

How tall are you exactly? As long as you're above 5'6 it's not all lost.

You need to be more like this man kek.

Huma Delicia

>The goal is to raise a healthy, whole family.

And women are the foremost obstacle to that end.

I'm 5'9" and wear boots

The church is your best bet. We're not cucked in our truest form. It's just this modern societal climate that makes the weak churches, who have no government and no authority and no tradition, act like their just another facet of this globalist agenda. The protestant church is being corrupted for certain.

I'm not entirely a chad but I am 6"5 and /fit/. I've been looking around my city and there are some churches nearby which are all white and with pretty large YA groups.

What are the odds I can find a virgin waifu? Will I have to have the permission of their parents to ask them out on a date? Could I court girls who are 16 and definitely still virgins (I'm 20)?

>all women, just like all jews, all niggers and all spics.
Feel the sole of my shoe you absolutist brainlet. Not every mother fuckin woman is a sexed, libshat, retarded, bluehaired, feminist sjw. Just like not every man is as stupid, lazy and as cucked as you.

Where you from? You might find someone. You could potentially date someone that young. But it'd be controversial. Why not go for someone your own age? If you can find someone who is still virgin, it's less of a hassle to deal with a woman than a teenage girl.

From Winnipeg.
There are some Mennonite churches. They don't seem completely compromised since they still even have some services in German and they are basically all white. In the pictures on their website they didn't look hardcore like Amish either which seems like the best-case scenario honestly.
The thing about me is I used to be really fat and socially awkward before I became /fit/ so I've never had an actual GF before. I'll look for one similar in age first though.

>The goal is to raise a healthy, whole family.
That might be your goal, it isn't necessarily everyone else's. Every generation has had people who stayed single for some reason or another, the only difference is the internet gives them a platform and a spotlight, which can lead to hysterical people thinking the situation is worse than it actually is.

Humans are biologically programmed to be together, they're social creatures. Most people eventually will find someone, and others will either choose to opt out or have that option forced on them. Either way, don't worry about MGTOW, the problem isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

So are you not saved and telling these women that you are and expecting them to be virgins when you're not even a real Christian?

I go to a Protestant Church and its literally 100% white without exception and everyone has a family or is looking to. Degeneracy is nowhere to be found on the premises unlike Catholic churches that I've seen RAINBOW FLAGS above the US flag at.

>t. incel roastie

>The goal is to raise a healthy, whole family.
Who's goal? Certainly not mine.

WELP OP--reform divorce laws and destroy alimony and I'll consider "regenerating the hwite raze".

Until then, kindly go fuck.

Thanks, fake-Kate.