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What are your thoughts about ADD/ADHD and other learning disabilities? Do you think this stuff actually does affect people's lives or is it just some made up con by doctors and psychologist? I've been told all my life I have ADD along with a couple of learning disabilities like written expression and dyscalculia. Sometimes, I ask myself when will the rope ever come because it seems like some many things are against me in life. Is there a light at the end of the tunnel for people dealing with stuff?

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People think it's lack of focus but it's actually super focus.

Modern life is boring as fuck some people cant handle that level of boredom so they're considered mentally ill

Some cases may be legit, but you Murrifags would diagnose 95% less ADD/ADHD if you just fed your children proper meals instead of sugar.

Psyfag here. Shit is real but overdiagnosed.

Protip: Focus and multitasking ability are things that can be developed, like muscles or skills.

One of the absolute best lawyers is dyslexic, David Boies
-think he said he reads 2/3rd as fast as others, but has quasi-photographic memory
-interesting guy
-had to switch law schools because he was having an affair with his law prof's wife
-wears Lands End suits exclusively
-eats ice cream for his meals

does psychotherapy provide any solid benefits to helping mitigate the negative qualities of failure to maintain attention n etc?

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as someone diagnosed with adhd in the 90s by actual drs and months of studies in a mock class room with other autists and shit........yes it exists and yes i wish it was all just a big meme

i wish it was a made up illness

it basically means kids born with it have an undersized frontal lobe and due to this the brain doesnt produce the right hormone balance,the only way to correct it right now is get them hooked on whizz like medicine,but problem is you need more and more as you build immunity to it

so you wind up munching them like pills just to feel normal and have to wait 2 weeks for your next prescription and then you have a massive comedown and hear laughing coming from the attack and it triggers psychosis

sure you can go cold turkey off them but you will never feel that "normalaity" again...your heart works over time on them also so you are faced with the choice of an earlier death for a higher standard of life or feeling cloudy all the time but live longer

it sucks user,and even worse there is people here that think its all a big meme

ITS FUCKING NOT!

If i failed every single grade and repeated a grade is it likely i have adhd

if its not a meme, how come no one believes its real

caused by overuse of the reward system.

Creates the need for amphetamines in order to sustain interest.

Sad but true.
True and big

you sure they're not just lazy failures with generally low intelligence

no

as someone with it i passed my grades fine i excelled in some of them

attention deficet doesnt mean you cant pay attention to anything

it is hard to explain to normies,its like windows trying to understand how linux works

hard things are easy and easy things are hard

i can remember from memory how to play a song on guitar and i could write it out in tabular form from memory but i cannot read an analog clock lol

its hard to put into words

Its a fucking joke
>look this 10 year old boy can't focus, lets pump him full of drugs
Its called childhood, not ADHD

I have been taking adderall since middle school. I'm almost 30 now. I can make it without the meds but they are so good for crunch time and cramming info that I just prefer using them for activities that require hard work.

I have given them to tons of people that dont have ADD and they immediately fall in love and want more and beg for more because its just THAT GOOD.

>you are not a biological being

It doesn't matter. Their reward system is literally shot and requires ADHD drugs in order to regain normal levels of interest.

...
Unless you're one of those anti-science 'snap out of it' people.

Well i couldn't focus on school work thats why i failed even my fathers beatings couldn't get me to focus

because boomers go around telling people the kids just need a good beating

trust me user,beating them dont do shit other than turn them into little bastards

i got stood in the corner in my underwear as my sisters laughed at me,starved,my gameboy games smashed with a hammer,twatted with snooker ques,locked outside in the cold,i was made to put my megadrive carts in a bucket of water...I was MADE to do it also and this would be for the most minor of things.

twatted with canes belts plug and lead...sisters for a mcdonalds and i got a tin of cold soup etc etc etc

no,smacking the shit out of them dont work it just makes them even more fucked up.

Australian doctors and psychologist dont diagnose adhd in adult, unless its a very expensive specialty doctor, if it was real why would doctors be so keen to not test for it or diagnose

this guy gets it

Also if "doesn't exist" and you are "just being lazy" why do you think its so fucking common?

pls explain without trying to sound like a tin foil conspiracy theorist. Adderall is a fucking tool not a mind control drug. They used to give the Nazis amphetamines so they could work harder.

I've heard it's like not being able to filter unimportant info from important info. Is this true?

i reckon modeern medicine and diet on the fetus in the womb is the cause

it happens in the womb,if its not evolutionary then its deffo chemically.

I would believe it if doctors actually took it seriously Australian doctors consider it a joke and its next to impossible to be diagnosed as an adult, What makes American doctors so much better?

Why did you fail?

Generally no. Therapy is more for emotional issues. Of course if you have difficulty because you're an emotional trainwreck, it might help.

Because you can't get disability support dollars for being a dumbass, so that's why they'll throw the label on people who clearly don't have it..

Punching someone into concentrating doesn't work very well either.

I failed because the work was too boring and just couldn't do it

ADHD fag here. Can confirm. I don't feel cloudy off of it. I take off days and adjust my dose. Doc over prescribes me. I specifically asked for instant release to allow myself to manage it... like if I have a slow work day I may take half or a quarter. Try to take on weekends... my apt is a wreck and I never get to relax like others.. but that's what cleaners are for.

the causes that create a need for ADHD meds are extremely common. TV, internet, and pretty much any pleasureable experience than can be had for an extended period of time create a bias that makes anything else difficult to pay attention to without the use of medication.

It doesn't matter if people are annoyed at the 'too much ice-cream' effect: If you want these kids to pay attention, it is too late and it requires meds. Otherwise they lack the ability to pay attention because they do not get a reward system ding from anything else.

ive read letters for appts and triple read them then failed to attend it on time becuase i read the wrong part

people with it tend to not read left to right,they kind of scan for words and sometimes read the wrong thing and fuck it up

IE

hell user you have a appt on the 1st jan and such and such blah blah blah on the 3rd of jan

once you get to the word appt your eyes skip to the end of the sentence and see 3rd for example and then you wind up going on the wrong day lol

this is just a best example of how i can put it,its alot worse than that.

its just being low in conscientiousness and high in extraversion, not an actual medical disorder. i have all the symptoms of it and i get adderall for it but i just use it for nights i go out drinking.

low in conscientiousness and high in extraversion is a stack that comes with advantages and disadvantages but its not bad if your IQ is relatively high and you can get by with doing less work than other people.

never say you're a victim and wallow in your misery, that's shit for idiot liberals who wear their suicidal tendencies as a badge of honor. i only have sympathy for the truly mentally retarded because they actually can't do anything.

I was diagnosed with ADHD as a child. And they put me on meds. It was the fucking worst. I only ate one meal a day and I felt like a fucking zombie most of the day.

Adhd is completely fake try getting diagnosed as an adult outside America would likely cost 10000 for appointments etc flights, and thats just a test, if it was real the government would put more effort into diagnoses for adults,

i had that slow release shit

they dont do quick release here for adults as people sold them as drugs

and same,cleaning is a choir cause you gotta stay focused and i always feel hyper vigilant and on guard i feel like the sky is about to fall 24/7

i had to psyche myself up just to face paying taxes on the phone which was over due just becuase i fucking hate talking to strangers.

of late ive tried to break out of my bubble by going to the gym.

Everything is important. ADHD mind works like a crime scene cork board. A curse and blessing. You can pull things together with ease on that brain image, but goood luck trying to explain it to anyone else. Adderall helps focus on a few threads o cork board and not the whole picture. Essentially you rabbit hole and subway and then plane ride while playing Peggle and then forget where your phone is.

nah,in the 90s i wasnt allowed sugar and i only had books in my bedroom no tv and i didnt have a light bulb either due to having a pull string switch

and i fell out of bed and grabbed it and it fell from the ceiling,so for years i had to read by the light from the streetlamp outside

i had a megadrive in the living room though? hardly stimulating compared to what we have today.

sad. You don't know what you're talking about.

user, open the slow release capsule. Crush insides. Lrn2dosage. XR sucks a dick. I am insanely lucky my docs don't think I'm a druggie.

Medication is usually the first thing people turn to regarding issues with attention.
As mentioned, attention is a skill that can be improved. A psychotherapist could offer some guidance with how to improve attention, but don't think of the therapy as a "cure". If looking for a therapist/counselor to help with attention, you probably want to seek a professional with a cognitive/behavioral orientation. They will probably teach techniques like "reattribution" and "refocusing". You could also talk with them about other concerns in your life, like coping with difficulties associated with attentional issues.

>choice of an earlier death
what do you mean? Because of the increased heart rate i'm gonna die earlier?

Adhd is an American only disorder

Read things backwards while speaking every word aloud, including punctuation. Helps a lot with catching those little mistakes.

but that's the point. You did not endulge in activities that contribute to attention system depletion/sensitivity.

Every other country only diagnoses children unless youre very rich and have the access to the one doctor in the entire country that believes its real

my drs took me off them due to sky high heart rate

shame desu while on them i felt like that guy from that movie limitless when he sorted his act out

There certainly are cultural reasons behind it.
The Japanese don't medicate ADHD but it's why they need to be beaten with a stick to get out their rooms.

Without their TV/internet they cannot feel good so never detach from this activity.

ADHD here, diagnosed by a neuro-shrink when I was a kid. Been on meds ever since.

Tried going off them in college; turns out I actually have it. Honestly, ADHD is really manageable when you take the meds, and in the long run, provided you're able to master the massive amount of input data your brain takes in, you're generally more aware of shit than normies. ADHD can be a fucking huge tool once you get a handle on it, but until then, it's like trying to sip from a fire hose.

if your heart is 40 bpm over average constantly for years it puts wear and tear on it along with other organs

either put up with that but feel "normal and alert" like normal people do or go back to mind fog and the disorganized thoughts but live longer

its a sick joke

The fact that doctors around the world are extremely reluctant to even test for it makes me think its fake

When I was born, the doctors thought I was female because of how fast my heartbeat was.

Life sure is a hoot.

i wish it was fake user

>be me
>diagnosed with ADHD at age 8/9
>teacher told parents that I would likely have significant difficulty with public school if I didnt get meds
>based dad tells teacher to suck a penis
>got a J.D. a year ago and now have a good legal job as an attorney.

moral: its bullshit. kids who take the drugs as children develop dependencies. most adhd drugs are stimulants - not good to give to a developing child. Not medicating my children unless they are severely fucked up.

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Fucking this shit. Only time I ever think about it as being different is when the kike FAA won't let me fly airplanes because I'm on stimulants. The same kike FAA that lets air force pilots pop dexedrine like candy to fly 36 hour missions. I don't want your fucking special treatment, managed to pull out the equivalent of a 1530 on the new GRE, anyone who tells me it's a disorder can fuck right off. I don't want to be some gay ass minority, just give me my pills and let me fly planes.

You can take a brain scan of a person with it and a brain scan of a person without and there are noticeable structural differences. It's quite real, but I won't pretend it isn't overdiagnosed as hell.

>the problem with ADHD is that it is akin to treating obesity with methamphetamine. Doctors feel like they're doing more harm than good.
>The options are: have child that becomes a NEET or have normal kid that studies and may become addicted to amphetamines. Furthermore, there are a lot of diseases associated with dopamine system overuse (alzheimer's is one)

From what ive read untreated adhd results in increased car accidents depression anxiety drug addiction huge gaps in employment, general neetdom, seems like something the government would be addressing if it were real

kids with it need extra strict parenting i agree,kids with it find it harder to socialize and have bad anxiety

if these aint tackled early on the kid will regress the second he gets the chance and avoid stressful situations like not being able to handle rejection by a potential employer or handle a social life thus not being able to be social and spend too much time alone

best thing you can do with a kid with it is force them to socialize and keep kicking them in the deep end,becuase if you dont they seldom never try diving in on their own in later life.

Doctors around the world used to think autism was fake but now it's recognized everywhere so autists like yourself can get services

law is a good job for adhd kids,i find many of us love to argue and its fun to get your enemy in a corner

i think thats why many of us are on this site.

When was the last time the government worried about mental health in general? Depression is obviously real, but you only ever hear about it when people shoot up a school or fly a plane into a mountain. Everyone agrees that we need better mental healthcare, then nothing happens.

We aren't even taking care of the dangerous head cases like schizophrenia from a government angle, why would we be worried about ones that arguably aren't even that big of an issue, other than just needing small, simple tasks to manage?

Humanity is evolving. ((they)) want to slow the process with drugs to try and control it. ((they)) will fail. It's as simple as that. Watch the movie Dune.

It's not evolution if you don't fuck.

Now that you mention it...Fuck. That makes a lot of sense. Don't forget entrepreneurship; I get a huge rush out of selling people ideas by bending my pitch around their subtle tells. Rush like no other.

haha i would find a career in law terrible. too much paperwork, too much school, too many hours. you can argue and get your enemy in a corner in finance or any field with a hierarchical promotion structure too, the competition is just less overt and less fair

How the fuck is not being able to focus an evolution that would be going backwards

i got 2 kids 1 with a german girl 1 with a scottish milf

Final post: ADHD is very real and is an epidemic. It is a modern disease caused by overuse of the reward system. Videogame, TV, internet, and gambling addictions are more and more common and prevent a seemingly normal person from paying attention to unrewarding but important reading assignments.

It's basically an untreated addiction
>why can't I read my course-work?!
>why can't I do something if I don't think it's fun?

it's an iteration of thought process. repeated iterations leads to variation and adaptation.

If its real then would most doctors and psychiatrists not diagnose it, How would someone who lived in a town of 10000 with 2 doctors that both dont believe in it even have a chance

finance?

im good with electionics repair,guitar coding and many other things but maths is my weak point,its not even funny lol

i should do a test,what if i solitary confine myself and cut my internet for say 3 months and basically bore myself to death?

will that fix it maybe?

it would take more time than that but perhaps. That's part of the problem: doctors are reluctant to tell their clients to change their behavior and resolve only to solve the symptom of inattention.

cdc.gov/ncbddd/adhd/diagnosis.html

autism is not worth diagnosing after childhood by then they're fucked

no games books tv or internet,basically wake up stare at the wall till im tired

if over stimulation is your theory then stimuli starvation is the cure to rebalance the reward centre of the brain?

i guess the reason why we never leave pol is we are addicted to happenings

ADHD medication will probably be extinct the day we have UBI, except maybe for hardcore cases [spoiler]such as mine :([/spoiler].

worse: this website is DESIGNED to make you addicted. It's called an information lottery. The F5 button is the slot machine lever. You get a lot of BS but then feel a rush when you stumble upon legit happening threads.

Doctors claimed I had ADD when I was young, first thing I thought was there's nothing wrong with me. The moment they put me on ritalin I never felt good with that shit in my head
>Spend entire school time being called "special"
>mother didn't care until I took the pills
>dad didn't care
>got picked on a lot
>barely got through school if I wasn't skipping
>thought about suicide even on really good days while on pills
Thank god for alcohol man. School years with those fucking pills sucked

untreated ADHD = NEET. It's not the same as untreated schizophrenia which is 'treated' with jailtime at your local for-profit jail in the US.

you should have been half asian, sorry m8

but that's a nice set of things to be good at. i couldn't even repair my guitar when the jack broke, i fucked it up so badly that i had to buy a new one

Some people just shouldn't have kids. School is like a baby sitter for most people.

Old 50 something here. ADD/ADHD, is that cause of the interwebs or a inability to pay attentions? Oh look a squirrel!

Boring symptom definition for entailment political loose laziness.

its just a few mins job with a soldering iron to put a new jack in lad,there is a few youtube vids on how to do it.

and headaches are caused by demons you must bloodlet out or drill a hole in your skull to vent,piss off boomer

>What are your thoughts about ADD/ADHD and other learning disabilities?

It's a psychiatric term that is used to cover up the chemical warfare plan being used against goy children.

>Oy vey, goyim! It's not OUR fault your childs brain is damaged... you just have "Bad Genetics"

T. Amphetamine addict

not been on ritalin for 2 years m8

forgot trip.

You don't have ADD or any other "ism".
You're just a fucking spaz.
Lower your expectations and enjoy being a semi-functional retard.

it might exist, but i think school is just very boring for boys.

Too true man, if I had offed myself back then they would've just hoped I didn't stain the carpet.
That ritalin shit was the worst though, I don't wish that on anyone

I don't get accelerated heart beat user. Are you overweight? Out of shape? Try lifting in am, cardio in afternoon as your XR is depleting. Be advised, if you speed metabolism the meds can wear off faster. Do not take prior to gym. Normies swear by that, but I'm telling you it will suck long term. If your heart rate is high you need to lower dose or learn to dose. Sucks you can't regulate it and are forced to time release capsule.

really though i have every symptom for adhd starting from preschool to now every report card says i cant focus, actually feels pretty comfy knowing its not fault, although i will never be treated as im an adult

Lol. actually a genXer, and have been diagnosed with AADD a long time ago but don't really care. In my chosen profession it is considered an asset/ multitasking and I have done well with it. Its not what you have or don't have but how you work with it to your own advantage.

Im bipolar 1.

When im manic i do my best work. That is the infamouse weaponized autism.

I have naturally seperated myself from society and deleted every social media page with my real name. I despice other bipolar people, especially female ones. For some strange reason most of them are bat shit insane.

When im not trying to kill my self im most likely shitting all over /leftypol/ or writing letters of outrage to us college campuses posing as transgender.

I really want to die. But i got to outlive my parents atleast.

Adderall kicks dopamine receptors to dump, they dump,
but in actuality depletes them without a rebuild. Sort of like the high people get while doing bdsm or thrill seeking shit. need to work out or be active while taking it as well as monitor diet because let's all be real, it's easy to forget to eat on Adderall

Fuck Ritalin. I came off of it and swear to god I felt my spine was gonna snap. Concerta or whatever gave me limp dick for a month. Never again.

I got it Rx'd at 24. My parents were cucks who said it wasn't real. Got my own insurance, went to psychiatrist. Had RX 20 minutes later.

ADD is vey real.

but youre in america doctors dont like adhd in Australia

Needs to be diagnosed in order to qualify to receive variety of governmental services, at least in the US. Also, not all of them are totally screwed. I have many higher functioning clients who are able to hold full time jobs with the help of job coaches and other behavioral professionals. But yeah, no early intervention usually results in poor outcomes, similar to ADHD

It's a bunch of made up bullshit ddsigned to help stupid people feel better about themselves.

Everyone gets to be special.

I think ADD/ADHD aren't disabilities and are only classified as such because it hinders them in this modern era where in school you
>Sit absolutely still and silent for nearly 6 hours with a 30 minute lunch being your only break since recess ended
>Study 1 subject at a time at great length (some schools it's 1.5 hours per subject) with no deviation
>Learning is done through mostly reading with a little listening, no hands on or application
If you took a bi-polar kid and made education fit their personalities they'd do amazing. Also notice how 95% of ADD/ADHD kids are males? It's an absolute con to say that it's the kids fault not society's.

>I have naturally seperated myself from society and deleted every social media page with my real name. I despice other bipolar people, especially female ones. For some strange reason most of them are bat shit insane.
Are you me? Everytime I deal with another bi-polar person they're either absolute fucking psychopaths or insufferable pieces of shit. Females are always both.

already at the gym mate

i had to take a huge dose as i built up resistance to it if i took a normal dose it did nothing.