America was the true "evil empire". While America was propping up dictators and starting wars everywhere...

America was the true "evil empire". While America was propping up dictators and starting wars everywhere, the Soviet Union maintained a conservative non-interventionist foreign policy.

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>The Soviet union
>Isolationists

>Isolationism => Goodguys.

This is why ancaps are a meme.

America has been the most belligerent country of the last 100 years. The world would be better off without us.

tell this shit to central asia and eastern europe especially czech and Hungarians weak bait but I bit.

You're so silly user, you make me laugh. Ha ha ha.

Factually incorrect, sir.

Our communist (Soviet agent) division of the State Department was doing that.

The Soviet Union needed to occupy Eastern Europe to protect itself from the belligerent West.

Rothbard explains:

>Russia, therefore, governed Eastern Europe as military occupier after winning a war launched against her. Russia’s initial goal was not to communize Eastern Europe on the backs of the Soviet army. Her goal was to gain assurances that Eastern Europe would not be the broad highway for an assault on Russia, as it had been three times in half a century—the last time in a war in which over twenty million Russians had been slaughtered. In short, Russia wanted countries on her border which would not be anti-Communist in a military sense, and which would not be used as a springboard for another invasion. Political conditions in Eastern Europe were such that only in more modernized Finland did non-Communist politicians exist whom Russia could trust to pursue a peaceful line in foreign affairs. And in Finland, this situation was the work of one far-seeing statesman, the agrarian leader Julio Paasikivi. It was because Finland, then and since, has firmly followed the “Paasikivi line” that Russia was willing to pull its troops out of Finland and not to insist on the communization of that country—even though it had fought two wars with Finland in the previous six years.

lols well the west needed to invade other countries and occupy them to protect themselves weak argument. btw ((((((rothbard))))))). the jews union and the united states of jews really is weird eh. also communist killed more russians then anyone else has.

The Soviet Union was non-interventionist. There was no threat to the West, retard.

okay giving nukes to cuba
invading afganistan
invading south korea
invading south vietnam
starting multiple uprisings in africa angola and south africa are big examples.
don't get me started on south america basically a marxist interventionist hell hole.
what with the cognitive dissonance here they are miltary and covert interventionist your just being fucking autistic on things that don't matter. "I promise guys we just want to invade and influence the rest of the world guys just not you lol" look up what troskey and company was [lanning for europe before they got BTFO by poles FUCKING POLS lol they were jokes larping like world conquerors don't get me started on ww2

The Soviets didn't invade South Korea or Vietnam. I don't know whether you just pulled that out of your ass or if you were actually taught such propaganda in your socialist schools.

>Soviet Union was non-interventionist

That's why they trained gook pilots, funneled millions of dollars and arms to Congolese commies, and invaded Afghanistan, right?

Goddamn there are so many fucking retarded commies on this board. Fuck off back to leftypol you shitstain.

china communist and Nkorea communist Nvietnam communist. who invaded who? maybe there not technically soviets but you know. But fine on a technicality I give you those wars for free . Explain Trotsky though what the fuck was that about eh? Afghanistan? Africa? South america? Cuba?

>soviet union

I'm a libertarian. You're seriously uneducated if you don't recognize Murray Rothbard.

Giving nukes to Cuba was a tit for tat response to US putting nukes in Turkey.

Pretty much everything they did was reactionary. It's why they lost. Should have rolled those tanks all the way to the Atlantic in '45

Trotsky they got rid of with an icepick to the head. You'll never see Americans do that to McCain or any of their internationalists.

This.

Soviet Union's foreign policy was conservative in nature. They would have accepted peaceful coexistence if the West weren't so fucking belligerent. They pulled out of Finland and they would have readily pulled out of Eastern Europe if they got assurance that those countries wouldn't provide a staging point for an invasion.

Both Chinese, and Russian pilots were recorded fighting against American pilots in Vietnam. They flew NVA aircraft wearing NVA equipment, but they couldn't speak Vietnamese over the radio.

yea fuck you your full of shit and to be honest I would love MCcain to get an ice pick and his friends but for different reasons........

quit cherry picking Afghanistan?????????

Afghanistan would like a word*

*when they are finished with their daily boy-fucking.

>what is afghanistan
>what is hungary
>what is mongolia
kys faggot commie-lover

not to mention all the stans???????
and in NV the russains flew the plans. You honestly think the fucking ricers that were basically bashing rocks to together could maintain a plan let alone know how to fly one.

We are a capitalist country.
We go where the money is.

Either way our system worked and theirs didn't

>America was the true "evil empire". While America was propping up dictators and starting wars everywhere, the Soviet Union maintained a conservative non-interventionist foreign policy.
Also Poland and France attacked Germany and WW2 was a defensive war by the Germans.

Any more history illiteracy?

This is the unthinking bootlicking empire-worshiping drones they pump out of socialist schools.

America is not a true capitalist country. America taxes its people more than anybody and has the largest government in the history of the world.

Useful idiots.

can't wait for your glorious leaders to kill you on day of the rope.

The soviets purposefully destabilized states bordering them to create a buffer zone against the US -- the effects of this destabilization are apparent even today. It was a perfectly viable strategy, but not in any way a non-interventionist one.

I don't have "glorious leaders", commie. America and the Soviet Union were both different varieties of socialism. The only difference is that America were belligerent warlike socialists and the Soviet Union were non-interventionist in terms of foreign policy.

That was the (((CIA))) not America

You forgot the part there Soviet Union annexed neighboring countries and commited atrocities against their citizens and against Russian populace itself. Oh, i forgot your american and you only remember like last 50years of history.

>Soviet Union maintained a conservative non-interventionist foreign policy.

Is this the real level of american education?

>oh wow i wonder where all these top of the line mig-17's came from

>the Soviet Union maintained a conservative non-interventionist foreign policy.
They did? Hungary didn't belong to the soviet union. Czechoslovakia didn't belong to the soviet union
China didn't belong to the soviet union.
Korea didn't belong to the soviet union.
Cuba didn't belong to the soviet union.
Central America didn't belong to the soviet union.
Syria didn't belong to the soviet union.
Vietnam didn't belong to the soviet union.
Indonesia didn't belong to the soviet union.
Afghanistan didn't belong to the soviet union.
Angola didn't belong to the soviet union.

No, they just provided money, arms, training, "advisors", air support, and intelligence.

Give us enough time and frustration and you might.

>Last 50 years of history
Wew lad, don't overestimate us. We really only remember the last 15 years of movies and tv that were loosely based on history.

this, so we could have nuked them before they stole our tech.

Right because Eastern Europe, Afghanistan, Egypt, North Korea, Africa and Cuba is isolation

>what is Afghanistan
>what are the shithole of proxy wars fought with the US

Even Tom Woods said Rothbard overstated the case about the "non-interventionist" Soviet policies after Michael Malice mocked Rothbard over this piece. (mises.org/library/soviet-foreign-policy-revisionist-perspective)

Remember that Rothbard was always trying to make alliances with the left, so perhaps this was part of the strategy, just like he and the Lew Rockwell gang later tried to appeal to mouth-breathers by heightening racial tension in the infamous Ron Paul newsletters.

America is literally the biggest terrorist organization in the world. And the fact that so few recognize this, that we have normalized their behavior, is fucking atrocious. The amount of pain and suffering America has caused within the last several decades is incomparable to the next such country. And to see that people not only don't speak up against this, but actively support America, is extremely frustrating.

You guys know that there are Russians on proxies pusting pro-Russia shit, right?

>the Soviet Union maintained a conservative non-interventionist foreign policy
Wow, congrats on being THIS stupid OP.

Rothbard wasn't stupid, he was just overstating the case. All revolutionary regimes are fundamentally conservative in the sense that they want to conserve their own grip on power over all other considerations. This is hardly a controversial thesis. Stalin did not want world revolution, which is part of the reason he icepicked the Trots-man!

Also why Che took extended vacations to Africa and Bolivia

I'm an ardent Rothbardian, but this is correct.
Also don't forget the russification of non-russian soviet republics, Rothbard himself said that the state sponsored settlement of Russians in the baltics changed his thinking on immigration.

The Soviet Union foreign policy was shit, but America has been even worse.

Also ITT, people forget that Soviets had fought war on their homeland and lost 25 fucking million men in that war.
There are probably few people as anti-commies as Rothbard, but when he writes in the 60s-70s (generation of leaders in the Party that had lived the whole war) that he understands why the Soviet insist on having constant projection outside the soviet union, this is not unreasonable.

Rothbard didnt talk about "America" but socialist, left-wing warmongers. Also, soviet union didnt intervene in as much conflicts as americans because with the communist economy meme they couldnt afford colonial ambitions.

>Soviet foreign policy
>Non-interventionist
Let's ask the Czechs and Huns

>american foreign policy
>subvert, corrupt, steal anything that wont be missed, blame everyone els for the giant shit they take on everyone

>nordic civilization
>raids, rapes and nigger chimping

Until you didnt swallow christian semen you were just barbarians so stop lecturing western countries on foreign policy, snownigger.

>Soviet Union maintained a conservative non-interventionist foreign policy.
But their invasion of Afghanistan (was it 1979 or 1980?) BTFO's your Commie loving bullshit, FAGGOT

>Satan
Disregard.

Soviets were definitely interventionist.
Westerners, Communists, nazis, they were (are) all the same shit.