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This,achmed and i would like to know what you are burgering about this time.

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>Lockheed Martin gave CNBC a first look at its new spacecraft prototype, which the company will unveil Thursday at this year's International Astronautical Congress in Adelaide, Australia.

>"This is a single-stage, completely reusable lander which will be able to both descend and ascend," said Lockheed Martin's Robert Chambers.

>Chambers is a senior systems engineer at the aerospace and defense giant, helping to lead the Mars Base Camp project. The concept is Lockheed Martin's vision for what may come after NASA's Deep Space Gateway mission, which will begin in the early 2020s.

>Starting with testing near the moon under the NextSTEP program, NASA aims to develop the infrastructure needed to send people to Mars. Lockheed Martin is one of six U.S. companies under NASA contract to build prototypes for NextSTEP.

That looks pretty cool

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>Lockheed Martin unveils fully reusable crewed Martian lander
>Lockheed Martin gave CNBC a first look at its new spacecraft prototype, which the company will unveil Thursday at this year's International Astronautical Congress in Adelaide, Australia.
>tarting with testing near the moon under the NextSTEP program, NASA aims to develop the infrastructure needed to send people to Mars. Lockheed Martin is one of six U.S. companies under NASA contract to build prototypes for NextSTEP.

SpaceXCREMENT

We /hivemind/ now?

buzz

this is what you are all up in arms about?some artists representations of a space ship?and all that masturbation over "we dun figgered it out!" i really do not see what the big deal is.they are lucky if this is only off by a matter of twenty years

>(((prototype)))

Nice science project faggots. It basically means absolutely nothing until it doesn't explode on take of and you usually need a few billion dollars to get to that stage.

How diverse will the crew be?

The only question worth asking here.

What the fuck is the point of going to Mars. Jews destroyed that country and then came to Earth. It's literally worthless.

its gunna blakkk as fuuk mah nyukka

wez marchins now

>This is what we'll make to compete with spacex
>Oh but we'll need a 30 bill contract before we'll even start

>I see you brother

WHY DIDN"T YOU PICK ME!

yeah, i can put up spacecraft in KSP too. lets see when will they get some results.

these

I can't wait for the reddit cucks to shit their pants and make this a good vs evil fight.

This is literally a concept at this stage. SpaceX on the other hand has made unbelievable progress on their ITS.

Also this KEK ship will require an additional "base camp" that is orbiting Mars. Even their concept image shows it would hold less than half the crew and cargo SpaceX ITS could ferry.

we should hurry this process along...i can see the memes already

>we gundam now

>unveiled in Australia
Will ARSE be the first ones to get to test drive it?

This.

Literally deviantart-tier roleplaying at this point by (((them))) to keep us distracted with the "muh space exploration" meme while society goes to shit.

Can't have uncontrollable white males going to Mars goy. Not enough empowered black women in his team. Look at it goy, there's barely any melanin in here! Like another shoah.

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> SpaceX on the other hand has made unbelievable progress on their ITS.
Powerpoint 6.0 is out?

Sorry, but SpaceX is just a taxpayer broomstick.

The fuel tank to hold the super-cooled liquid hydrogen has been made and tested. Plus whatever's coming out in a few hours.

As diverse as it's going to take to prove to Martians that we're good goyim.

i dont think you need to make billion dollar engineering programs soley that keep few autists interested when you have fucking holywood and music industry at your disposal

it just doesnt add up

gays

Look at what gratuitous bullshit this is:
youtube.com/watch?v=vLpZUMfIJX0

"...and most importantly, we have Orion..."

This isn't a serious Mars proposal. They're hellbent on pretending that Orion is relevant to a Mars journey. This is an effort to keep NASA pumping money into SLS/Orion, which is ridiculously profitable for Lockmart.

If they can build a 3-year space habitat and a fully-reusable propulsive-landing stage with crew capability, what the flying fuck is Orion for? It's totally redundant, and absurdly primitive compared to these proposed wondermachines.

Considering that Lockmart is struggling to even make Orion, a modest scale-up of the Apollo capsule, there's no reason to believe they can build these other things.

Who knows ethnically... but gender wise it either has to be all men or all women because NASA is afraid of them having sex in space

You do realize that the SpaceX Dragon capsule is only for low orbit deliver missions, right? And that their rocket system is also only for low orbital deliver systems, right? SpaceX has no deep space craft, and I have not heard or seen any sign of anything being developed. MEANWHILE! NASA has had a rocket capable of going to Mars since the 60s. Saturn V was designed to go there. And currently there are only 2 actually built deep space vessels, Boeing CST 100, and Lockheed's Orion.

I'm tired of the compare SpaceX to NASA meme. Sure, the Falcon 9 is pretty dope, and they have done good things, and will hopefully lower the cost substantially of going into and sending things to orbit. But so far, that's about it.

>super-cooled liquid hydrogen

there is nothing super about it. If you want to use liquid nitrogen, it has to be cooled to its liquid state.

Also, chemical rockets will never make us spacefaring. It is a dead end.

Red Dragon missions are still basically Dragons, coming soon. Falcon Heavy tested in a couple months. Interplanetary Transport development is under way, they've built a huge developmental fuel tank.

>barely any melanin in here
Now you know why it's called the Clean Room

>What the fuck is the point of going to Mars
Open a Central Bank.

Super cooled usually means that the liquid starts having superfluid properties like 0 viscosity and such which allows it to be moved around the tanks in zero-gravity or high-gravity much easier.

Shit.
Space wars between powerful colonial corporation's private armies when?

The kielbasa is right,something is hammy about all of this.What do these pigs have in mind?I can tell you this much...someones check book is gonna get porked

Watch the conference in Adelaide, their going to show a test fire of the ITS's Raptor engine, also stop pretending to yourself that the Orion (which is basically a modernised apollo capsule) is actually capable of the 14 month voyage to Mars.

Hopefully after we invent an ecm that makes homing missles useless.

*and back.

>prototype

I dont see any ulterior motivemotives here.

They just want to lower costs of orbital transport. Musk already achived that.

Manned space exploration like ISS or mars missions are just memes, but our civilizations needs all these unmanned satellites in orbit. Next stage are probably orbital refuelling depots and servicing drones that will repair old or broken satellites.

there is no reason to cool hydrogen lower than required in space. Actually, the lower you cool it, the more energy you need. Hydrogen isn't used for long term space travel exactly for that reason.

Chemical rockets are going to be around for a long time. Anything nuclear is going to produce a lot of radiation, meaning it's going to have to be very big for the people riding on it to be adequately shielded, and we won't want to launch it near any habitable area.

Chemical rockets are quite adequate for getting around the inner solar system.

What SpaceX is doing is subcooled methane and oxygen. It's not superfluid, it's just more dense, as most things get more dense as they cool (water expanding when it freezes is a notable exception). It also has advantages for self-pressurizing and space-stored systems, because it's not already sitting there and boiling.

They aren't using hydrogen, and hydrogen doesn't become superfluid when you cool it to extremely low temperatures. That's helium.

isnt hydrogen not used in deep space because the boil off, no matter how much you cool it?

i was just figuring it was esoteric bullies trying to grasp for straws whilst watching the show get stolen by those with both passion and means not just "fry cook" science like most of the scene has degenerated into.

exactly this

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non-nuclear in space propulsion is the future... it's around already.

For gravity wells like Earth and Mars we have other tech, e.g. airship to orbit.

Subcooled hydrogen is good for the same reasons as subcooled methane and oxygen: it's more dense. Hydrogen in particular has very low density, which is a serious problem because you need very large tanks for it, so this is good. Usually, subcooled hydrogen fuel is referred to as "slush hydrogen", because it has reasonable handling properties when partially frozen and this gives the highest density. Unfortunately, it's hard enough to get and keep hydrogen at liquid temperatures, let alone even lower ones.

The problems you bring up are real, but there would be advantages to slush hydrogen, and it has been thorougly studied (though never used on a real system yet).

what kind of non nuclear propulsion do you mean, em drive? We still dont know if it will ever will be viable or real propulsion.

What else is there, solar sails?

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>non-nuclear in space propulsion
Electric propulsion is indeed useful, but slow and only relevant for very long missions.

>airship to orbit
Let's not get silly.

ion drives

oh yeah, forgot about these

>CHECKED

if only

You're the first one human to ever set foot on Mars. The whole world is watching. This is your Neill Armstrong-moment. What do you say?

"Gas the kikes interplanetary war now"

>"McDonalds, I'm lovin' it"
>Ancap smilie in NASA control room gives thumbs up

>53
>35

>send crew to mars that are successful
>no blacks
>as the years roll by they develope their own culture with laws and no religion
>Earth sends a second ship finally
>has blacks on it
>act like ignorant fucks
>Mars crew tell them to shape up
>white new crew tells off mars crew for being racist
>Mars crew tazes them
>experiment on blacks
>interrogate whites
>conclusion is to make mars independent.

Is there another stream for this? It's coming on in like 10 minutes, and all I can find is this shitty Australian website that doesn't work in my browser:
australiascience.tv/live-from-the-68th-iac-lockheed-martins-mission-to-mars/?linkId=100000001245483

looks like the space shuttle. probably has shitty tiles on the underbelly. they will dub it the 'nasa roaster'

Or is it just failing for everyone because they haven't started the stream yet, and they didn't bother to put a countdown screen?

Never mind, stream's up:
players.brightcove.net/5483960636001/B1l6owAlYZ_default/index.html?videoId=5589363292001

Hear all about Lockheed Martin's fake Mars landing plan that makes it super important to keep shoveling money into overbudget, behind schedule, underperforming SLS/Orion for another decade.

...aaand stream's over. It was 4 minutes and 10 seconds of live elevator music in a dark room.

>Lockheed Martin

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>Atlas
>F35
>Orion

O boy here we go again it's starting to get like Stark industries but if Tony had the downs

I'll start to get excited when they solve the radiation problem.

Send them all back to Africa and leave the white man alone.

Come home, white man

It's already happened from what I've heard.

"Thank fuck there's no niggers here."

They should do a pregnancy experiment.

Best one so far.

Go on

"One small step for man, one giant SHIEEEET for nigkind.

pingas

>forgetting these guys

i was kang

This confirms my theory about the inferiority of the blond male. They truly are the niggers of white men.

Jews did 9-11 search for dancing jews

That's not based on facts.

dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3504070/They-not-dumb-blondes-Women-natural-hair-colour-intelligent-brunettes-red-heads.html

There're just a lot fewer blond men.

Dont let the Turks come. Problem solved.

lockheed martin

Alright Sven, whatever you have to tell yourself to cope, lol.

Just using facts m8. Try it.

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Summary: Lockheed martin unveiled a new 3d CGI image of what a mars spaceship could look like, in related news, reporters still dont know what "prototype" means.

>(seriously, im so fucking tired of reporters referring to CGI fictional illustrations as "prototypes")

hmmmmmm earth lookin p flat from up here

>Oh wow, it's literally just an updated version of the DC-X
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_DC-X

Also fuck NASA for railroading that design, we could've had cheap reusable rockets decades ago, even before the shuttles were retired.

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