Why the fuck am I being robbed of such a huge portion of my paycheck when I don't even make that much. Rent is already high as shit, how the hell am I supposed to save for retirement or buy a house when 1/4 of my income is ripped away from me every pay cycle.
Furthermore, social security is bullshit. I can invest that money better than the government ever could.
We waste billions on sand niggers, mexicans, overpaid faggot bureaucrats. Fuck them.
Nothing worse than going to the damn post office and knowing that fat lazy shit behind the counter is making a nice sum doing jack shit with a golden parachute at my own expense.
Fuck big government and fuck our out of control debt/spending. Goddamn joke
The taxes here are a load of shite, especially when you consider what they are spending it on.
Cooper Cox
Bump for people with jobs
Jace Wright
Exactly its fucked up
They are stealing our money and using it to buy/fund total bullshit. Everything is fucking taxed. You can't even really own anything...not even the land.
Its honesty outrageous
Brayden Torres
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James Johnson
No shit, in California if you own a business the state taxes you at 30-50% of what you make... Im not saying don't help people, you can with charities that people want to contribute to. Social security nets are beyond retarded and don't even do what they are meant to 90% of the time. I have seeing that deducted amount on my spreadsheet for taxes, but i imagine if it were for a charity or private assistance organization i supported i would be fine. Taking from those who have and giving it to those who don't is cucked as fuck.
Hunter Young
I'd be mad too if a third of my tax money went I to the military.
Jayden Smith
Its total fucking bullshit
Im a goddamn teacher. How am I getting taxed this much?
I don't even understand how people can survive on less than 50k its insane. I work in a private school so no cushy pension for me.
Someone needs to go into government with a sledgehammer and crush everything
Andrew Miller
>Why the fuck am I being robbed BECAUSE YOU DIPSHITS JUST HAD TO DESTROY BANK SECRECY, DIDNT YOU??? BURGER!!! >no political asylum for your monies idiots
Jose Scott
Honestly sometimes I wish we could just go full Ron Paul and let the world go fuck itself.
No one even wants American help. We should just take our bat and ball and go home. But before we do that nuke North Korea.
Everyone can have fun getting ripped off by the goddamn chinks. Fuck the middle east too
Easton Scott
were talking about taxes mountain jew.
but you are right on that point. its your money, do whatever the fuck you want with it
Charles Ward
>let the world go fuck itself >implying "muuh freeedom" ever helped anyone what the flying fuck are you talking about, burger?
Kayden Fisher
You haven't seen France. I cost 5500e to my boss and after contributions and income tax, I have 2300e each month in Paris where rent for a 30m2 is around 1200e/month. Top of that is that I have a 20% VAT and I am in the top 15% richest of the country with that situation
Hudson Cox
I hear you OP. I think the most fucked up part is that you can live off the system in such a way that you get free food, housing, and money, AND you don't have to pay any taxes, in fact you get thousands of dollars back if you have kid. Meanwhile those of us who actually work and own our own business get taxed to hell and receive none of the social benefits. Not to mention the amount of taxes is just ridiculous, City tax, State tax, Federal tax, Property tax, Sales tax, etc. The system is fucked and no one cares. The poor love the free gibs, and the rich get out of paying the high taxes and make bank contracting with the government. Meanwhile the middle class is stuck paying for everything.
Alexander James
A brick costs a dollar user. Throw it through the window of the closest SS office.
Alexander Wood
look, burger. It's not very hard. Bank secrecy was designed exactly for the case where your own fucking state is going to rob you. Sure, once upon a time, this was mostly targeted at communist shitholes, but you get the idea (well, actually I'm not so sure you people ever got the idea of bank secrecy to begin with, given all the propaganda you've been bombarded with...). International tax competition is a healthy thing too.
Of course such a thing can not be allowed with all states in heavy debts and need of monies.
Dominic Richardson
pisses me off too OP. I make a lot and they're stealing so much from my paycheck to give to dindus
Thomas Martinez
seriously its totally fucked we are getting raped
fuck taxes world wide revolution we are all wage slaves
Michael Anderson
doesn't work when you're paid by someone who follows the rules. It only works for investments and shit.
Justin Collins
Middle class plebeians can't afford to stash money in your jew vaults you idiot
Nathaniel Campbell
>doesn't work of course it worked. Why do you think people liked to have a bank account with their savings in switzerland? Because it's the most stable currency out there. That's why. It's a failsafe against inflation, or in more extreme cases confiscation.
they could and did just that for many years. Of course, not any longer. I fucking wonder why. : ^)
Mason Phillips
I've worked in public school and now teach in private
Everything that is done by a public school can be done better by a private school and cheaper.
I would fully support every public school in this country getting shut down. We have the internet you could probably homeschool your kid too which people are forgetting
Every federal government program and agency should get a heavy axe blow and these useless pension grubbing faggots should get fired.
Landon Jenkins
Normal people don't have Swiss bank accounts you autistic faggot
Hunter Sanchez
>fuck social security this in particular I know I'll never see anything from SS, stop making me fucking pay for it. It's a tax that gives me nothing at all.
Zachary Ramirez
Yes they all did, once upon a time the middle class could buy cars and houses and stuff, not so long ago, actually. That's no longer the case? OH I FUCKING WONDER WHY??
Josiah Morales
ITT: bitter, pathetic poorfags who resent the pittance the underclass gets while happily forking over for corporate subsidies and a bloated military-industrial complex
Zachary Moore
Exactly I could use that $135 bucks for a chunk of the car payment or food
Furthermore anyone would half a brain can make money on the stock market moreso than what the government is going to give me.
Government Logic >we want you to save pleb >here lets steal your money
But sir now I barely make anything this month >fuck you poorfag you can get it back when your dead at 60 and inflation will make it chump change
yeah fuck your FDR
Austin Long
When did it ever seem like we supported that either you larping crusader faggot
>pittance
Thats not what my last paystub is saying
>middle class American prosperity hinged on Swiss bank accounts
FUCKING LOL
Aaron Allen
Ive never met anyone in the middle class that doesnt agree with you OP. The problem is that the rich buy off the bums with social benefits, then when their cities are run down and crime is up they turn back to the middle class to point the finger. What really needs to happen is what everyone already knows. Impose term limits, campaign finance reform, and go back to electing true republicans. Not neocons, not socialist democrats, but true americans with american values. Our greatest strength is our unique identity through the founding of our country, and the leaders who have upheld it. Most faggots consider the 70s as the true founding of america, social policy tends to agree with them, but our values were created well before marxists poisoned the minds of americans. Perhaps one day things will change, but first the ahe above mentioned steps need to happen, the smaller the government, the more control the people have over it.
Jeremiah Adams
>>middle class American prosperity hinged on Swiss bank accounts Man, you gotta be kidding or stupid as fuck. THAT'S NOT AT ALL WHY I IMPLYIED. No, your own state did just that on its fucking own, to its own people. Switzerland would have been, and was, a safe harbour to put your savings. But your greeds shit state wanted, no, needed that monies, so bank secrecy had to fucking go. Fucking burgers... REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Nolan Fisher
So why don't we all join together and tell the IRS to go fuck itself?
Go old school Sons of Liberty style. Fuck paying taxes and fuck anyone who collects taxes.
Go to neocon/liberal rallies and just start breaking shit.
These savages are literally stealing our money and our future and giving it to illegals and niggers who don't do anything.
And I understand America is a major world power but what has it gotten us. What does Syria mean to anyone? Nothing. Who gives a fuck about the South China Sea? No one.
We are not an Empire but we act like one and its fucking normal people out of the American Dream.
Xavier Powell
>stable
No, the swiss are known as being neutral in every conflict. People keep their money in switzerland for that exact reason. Your currency is not more stable, its safer from foreign governments. The real money is kept in shitty tax havens acrose the globe, particularly those with nice beaches and even nicer whores.
Austin Brooks
Who gives a shit faggot? You are offering nothing to this discussion. We are talking about over taxation. No one cares about your mountain jew bank accounts. Sorry we regulated that out of existence, its a damn shame. But its not really what we are talking about here
Gabriel Morris
because you are a number and you are bred to make money for the state, its unbelievable how people dont realise this, the government doesn't care about you, your a fucking number to them. keep working wagecuck, i'm sure it will get better.
Benjamin Ross
>Who gives a shit faggot? People that get fucking robbed by their own state? maybe? No? Then have fun with your next tax increase >dolend surely is going to lower "middle class" taxes : ^)
Levi Lopez
Everyone is scared of the tax man. The one thing you simply can't do... Not pay the extortion fee. Sure if everyone banded together- but that would require sacrifice, same way a battle requires sacrifice.
But Americans are too comfortable now. Too chicken shit. Get all mad about some losers kneeling during a sports match- but no one gives a shit about paying half your paycheck to uncle, civil asset seizure, all that stuff.
Something has to happen.
Carson Bell
I don't want to sound like a Libertarian faggot but the founding fathers were right about basically everything including nig nogs.
The Middle Class is the heart of this nation. We are constantly being fucked. Enough.
America is about freedom. Freedom isn't nice or cuddly. Its tough. You have to be smart and work hard. But there should be so few regulations that you can climb easily because the restrictions and tax burden is so slight.
How can anyone rise in this nation when the government fucks you out of everything and makes it damn near impossible to even start your own business.
Brody Perry
Government sets the rent prices? Oh well
Samuel Young
Fuck white assholes who didn't study hard enough and blame everyone else for their laziness and lack of success.
Gavin James
Read Thomas Sowell's Basic Economics- he talks about rent controls
Joseph Allen
>How can anyone rise in this nation when the government fucks you out of everything and makes it damn near impossible to even start your own business. You're supposed to inherit something, silly. What do you mean your parents were poor?
Julian Cook
You are probably right about that but people who don't work are niggers and NEETs should all die.
>everyone is scared of the tax man
Very true and I don't think anyone would be willing to make the first move. It would be a battle.
But can you imagine if the middle class just stopped fuckign paying? It would be insane
Austin Morales
>Why the fuck am I being robbed of such a huge portion of my paycheck when I don't even make that much You're not, poorfag. Go look at other country's tax rates and tell me that you are paying a lot again.
>Furthermore, social security is bullshit. I can invest that money better than the government ever could. Like you are doing a good job investing now, right? You're a moron and so is 75% of the population. If we had no social security, you'd have old people dying on the street left and right. Go read a fucking history textbook.
>Nothing worse than going to the damn post office and knowing that fat lazy shit behind the counter is making a nice sum doing jack shit with a golden parachute at my own expense. Post office workers are poorfags too. If you think that fucker is rich, you're definitely a poorfag.
Bootstraps motherfucker. Tired of voting Republican? Because that is what you are voting for.
Leo Perry
Wageslave problems
Aaron Brooks
>paystub Poorfag.
Mason Johnson
This guy gets it.
Dylan Garcia
>everyone needs to be a rich STEM fag
You should be able to be a fucking carpenter and be able to support a family. Everyone shouldn't be required to be some tech faggot or whatever just to make it.
The system is fucked. There is more to life than your job and your value as a man is deeper than a wage.
Jewish capitalism and over taxation needs to die
Zachary Morales
Hey brainlet. Look up loss aversion. Its clouding your economic judgement.
Also if the mailjob is so cushy why don't you work for the mail office?
Justin Phillips
>Exactly I could use that $135 bucks for a chunk of the car payment or food >Thinks that is what social security is for.
Holy shit poorfag. Yes, spend the retirement fund on food. That will surely make you greater returns.
Brody Torres
Well thing is the Feds weren't supposed to be able to directly tax us, because of mankind's tendency to turn into kike3000 once they're able to directly demand payment. Seems like- it was originally gonna be capped at 7-10% , but they didn't want to because that was " too high"
Angel Roberts
>I should be paid how much I want for the work I want to do.
Name an economic system that works like this?
Jordan Foster
>comparing us to faggot EU shitholes makes it okay
LOL
My investments are solid and at least I can control them. Im not saying post office workers i rich but they are totally overpaid. I've never met a federal employee and thought...man what a hard worker.
>Muh bootstraps
Its hard to pull yourself up when the government steals the fucking laces out of your boot and gives it to Jamal and Pablo
I have a salary
Can you honestly say our tax dollars are well spent? Wouldn't you rather keep more of what you earn?
John Brown
>Its hard to pull yourself up when the government steals the fucking laces out of your boot and gives it to Jamal and Pablo Government ain't stealing shit whiny snowflake. Go get a new job.
Evan Ross
A free market economic system not run by the Jews and filled with usury
exactly fuck the feds
Luis Morales
>government takes 1/4th of your money and hands out billlions in welfare everywhere, effectively redistributing your earnings. >"hur dur, gobberment dindu nuffin"
Dylan King
>aint stealing shit
Go look at how much the Feds take off your bottom line. And its even worse the richer you are.
They can fucking tax the property you already paid for and kick you off of it
Leo Brown
>Free market >Thinks he'll be paid more under this LOL, wageslave
Gabriel Butler
Lost 1/3rd of my money to government tyranny last year. Glad to know we'll use that money to pay for a bunch of strung out heroin addicts to relapse for the 10th time and use Obamacare to pay for it.
Daniel Long
We'll a big solution would be getting women out of the workforce.
I guess thats not exactly free market
I generally support free exchange but their should be moral/ethical limits to produce a healthy society.
>laws against usury >get women back in the homes >end oppressive tax burdens for everyone >dramatically limit the size of fed/state governments
I guess you could call it a fascist-esque version of 1950s America
Elijah Bailey
I like this user
Jeremiah Moore
I pay more in taxes than most of the people in this thread make in a year. I know exactly how much the Fed is taking.
Yes, I would like it to be less. But goverment and corporations can't work without cash. Something you conservacucks can't seem to understand.
This is why your states are failing and are dependent on welfare.
Look at which states contribute and which states take.
Levi Sullivan
>lost 1/3
And how is that fair at all? You already know the answer.
We are being robbed by a corrupt and incompetent federal government. The Swamp needs to be drained and purged
The Fed should be put on a leash and fed on a diet of bread and water for the next century.
Jason Barnes
You are a wage slave/cuck. It's time to rise up against the government. If you're too cucked to fight with guns, at least radically defund the govenrment.
Jack Hernandez
Governments don't work at all dipshit. They just steal from people to not solve problems and give their buddies kickbacks. Name one problem that has ever been solved by a government. Go ahead.
Brayden Young
No that's where I pay you a portion of the money people pay me for whatever I pay you to do.
No one decides prices. we all react to prices.
If you want to charge what you think you deserve for your blacksmith tier trade. I get to vote with my wallet if I think your wooden table is worth that fraction of my time wage.
I think your skill is worth 5% of my skill so I pay you accordingly.
Nathaniel Brown
Ozone layer.
Polio .
Taxi fatalities.
Ian Thomas
Military?
OK, let's slash that first if you are against government.
Liam Nelson
The government is bloated and doing things that are blatantly unconstitutional. It should be fucking savagely beaten and starved to death.
Cut taxes Cut benefits Cut spending
Cut it all. Let the bodies hit the floor
America is addicted to materialism and frivolous bullshit.
Let all the Communists leave and the lazy faggots can go to Canada
Jonathan Hill
Not him but I would be fine with that. Let the Russians take Europe and the Chinese can rape Asia. The Muslims can kill the Jews and everything can go to shit.
Or maybe none of that will happen.
Either way, who really gives a shit. No one can conquer America. Maybe they can nuke us from space...but what would be the point of that if we exit the global stage
James Powell
Become a legislator and get that shit done then if you're so convinced.
I strongly disagree.
Ian Allen
There's still a big ass hole in the ozone.
Polio vaccine was invented by a person, not a government.
Thousands of people still die in car accidents every year. That problem is far from solved.
Lucas Johnson
I'm fine with that. Now stop hiding behind MUH MILITARY and look at all the other money we waste. It's trillions per year.
Mason Reyes
>I strongly disagree
With what? You want the government to steal more of your hard earned money? Why?
Do you honestly think they use the money we give them wisely?
CBO analysis and economic indicators as well if you have them.
Mason Reed
>Sup Forums is the perfect place for scholarly analysis
Easy there champ.
An easy start would be to look at every federal agency/bureau and see if it still has value, if it should be done by the states, etc
It would be easy to shitcan a bunch of these
I would start with the Department of Education and kill the liberal propaganda puppet for fun. ATF would obviously have to go ASAP
Luis White
Sounds like we are on the same page then.
I'm all for tearing the government a new asshole and cleaning up wasteful spending.
But the shit you guys complain about most isn't wasteful at all, and if you read a little about the history of these programs you'd find they are needed and actually produce more economic value than they consume.
Too much information for the average Sup Forumstard.
Jace Anderson
Post Office does not receive taxes dickhead.
Jayden Ward
>Thats not what my last paystub is saying
Oh, does your paystub clearly state that your tax contribution goes entirely to social security?
Hunter Flores
Federal, state, social security, health insurance
Obviously if elected we would go through everything with a fine tooth comb and bring on experts to assist but the basic idea is simple. PURGE.
Ryan Collins
An anarchic society is based around the idea that people are able to choose what they spend their money on, instead of Government doing it for them.
And what do you think, for example, federal and state taxes covers and what percentage is distributed to each?
Samuel Hill
Taxes are high because government work has become a form of welfare, giving high paying jobs to people who couldn't hold a shit tier job in the private sector. Top it off with a welfare system that is redistributing wealth at a level that should be called socialism...and i firmly believe america is fully socialist at this point just its people are too fucking stupid to see it....
Also we have a military all over the fucking world for no reason subsidising defense for wealthy nations who should be able to fend for themselves...while they shit on us with trade deals that destroy our economy.
We seriously have one of the worst governments on the planet.
Leo Cooper
Also im sick of paying 33% in income tax, 9% in sales tax, 35% in higher cost of goods/services from the corporate tax...we all probably pay over 50% in taxes its just broken up all over the place, thats not counting the inflation tax.
Kevin Brown
>Also we have a military all over the fucking world for no reason subsidising defense for wealthy nations who should be able to fend for themselves.
No. You have a global military presence to maintain the level of power and global control you want. The resources you control through Halliburton require this.
Austin Cooper
You think that's bad OP? Try "owing" them money on top of everything they already steal. My state's DOR recently started garnishing 25% of my check.
When I called to ask just how in the flying FUCK they can do that without a court order, they simply said "we don't need one, state statute allows it" "State statute overrides the 4th fucking Amendment?" "Yes sir it does" "Yeah, well I don't fucking think so. You'll be hearing from a lawyer soon."