CREATE NEW IDEOLOGY??

I was wondering if /Pol could somehow invent a new type of Ideology that doesn't exist but takes from the best of previously existing ideologies? (Socialism, Capitalism, Communism, Fascism, etc.)
>THERE ARE NO LIMITATIONS!!

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all the ideologies have been thougjt of

A specific brand of American Fascism that will restore a 1950s white utopia

>anti-usury laws
>laws designed to get women back in homes
>small, lean, mean federal government
>whites only citizenship
>freedom of religion only applies to christians

This is it right here, it's an ideology with little to no economic direction so you have to plug in your own. Read the 55 pages to understand.

www.chitrakoot.org/download/IntegralHumanism.pdf

To be honest, anti-usury is the single most important thing an ideology can do. Without jewpower (((they)))'re powerless to impose degeneracy.

Exactly this is how you remove the Jew. You remove their financial power base

I don't think so, but that's why I'm here. To see if we, Sup Forums, can use the power of the internet, autism, and good old conversation to mix the current ones or make a brand new one. :D

>Agree.
>Semi-Agree
>Definitely Agree.
>What? I've met upstanding blacks so why would we need that? Explain pls.
>I'm a Buddhist so where does that leave me?

You clearly stole this idea from

RACIST
MINARCHISM
white people doing whatever they want short of murdering each other

How tf does that have any connection to this??

the ideology can be based on a random number system where digits state what section of each ideology is taken

>>small, lean, mean federal government
in addition to contradicting everything else you said, this in and of itself is an oxymoron
unrelated to that post but i'm pretty sure this is a datamining thread

>immortal AI to rule and uphold constitution for a nation to insure nothing is ever corrupted
>eternal monarchy

this ai has to be programmed by ai, and cannot be programmed by humans as we are inherently flawed

you saw my thread and decided it was an original idea and decided to copycat it. AntifasForTrump.com, sir.

what's data mining? Looked it up on Google and here's what I got: "the practice of examining large databases in order to generate new information." What does that mean exactly though?

Why not just have the best parts of humanity like innovation, preservation and community boosted an cultivated while keeping the bad parts in check instead of completely getting rid of them, it just makes more complications. I hate people who use identity like it exists in a vacuum.
Wouldn't it be better to be an unknown person who actually contributes to society rather than a person well known for doing absolutely nothing.
>Race
Don't matter
>Sex
Don't matter.
>Religion
Anything is fine to practice as long as you don't start giving or expecting special treatment for it.
>Economy
Capitalism forever.

you want us to make a new ideology which you will try to use to get shillay elected, we are onto your tricks shill

An ideology to oppose transhumanism

I am so confused by you. 1. No I did not see your thread until you showed it to me. 2. What does AntifasForTrump have to do with creating a new Ideology from the ideas of on internet?

If you notice several facts/ideas and come to a new conclusion.
Doesn't that make a new fact/idea?

Why would you want to brand your ideas an "ideology"?

Who tf is Shillay?? lmao i'm not even old enough to vote yet

hillary

It's called National Transhumanism

> Anti-urbanization laws to prevent shit holes like LA.
> Transhumanism.
> More ocean exploration. We don't even have the entire ocean floor topography mapped. The rough areas are the ones that got the funding to be scanned.

This! Is! Great! FINALLY! even though um a cuck, beta, pussy lover, dick smeller.

Its good to know that pol/ is starting something new for once!....


Go for it! I know people are taking so much psychology for the fucks...

So put them in a spotlight. Teach them for the ideolgy...


Ideology = centrist

Simply to oppose broken ones such as Communism, Fascism, etc. so people don't have to choose corrupt ideologies when they get frustrated at the way of the world. Antifa goes to Communism, Vanguard America goes to Fascism, etc. Just a new way out ig.

Kekism.

Maximum right wing minarchism.

1 No birthright-citizenship, earn it through public service or land ownership
2 Remove reproductive freedom, create a council of geneticists who's mandate is to eliminate hereditary disease and defects from the population and have final say in procreation
3 Voting rights reserved to citizens only, which as stated would be veterans and land owners
4 Pay all government employees directly at the poverty line, from the mailman to the senator. They are public SERVANTS, not lords able to freely loot the treasury

these alone would murder most problems we have.

We create our own version of Islam to compete against Sunni Islam.

I suggest combining Judaism and Islam since these are the most problematic religions in the world.

>2. What does AntifasForTrump have to do with creating a new Ideology from the ideas of on internet?

Some might say it's a new ideology because until we launched AntifasForTrump.com, it was relatively unknown. But, since anybody can be Antifa, which is something against fascism; and since Donald Trump is not a fascist, we support him. We just chose tonight to reveal AntifasForTrump.com but rest assured, we've been an organization for several months, now.

Just Americanize British Union Fascism

The original American constitution with the bill of rights, the 13th amendment, and an amendment specifying one term limits for politicians. That’s it

Ok but what makes AntifasForTrump.com an ideology? What beliefs do you hold? Labeling yourself Antifa then supporting Trump isn't really an ideology...

fuck off nigger faggot

>Good things
>Communism and Socialism
Pick one

The trap of ideology is a false one, as you have conceived it. Obviously we can't "escape ideology." But that's only because we can't escape ideas, and why would we want to? No one is ever obliged to pick an pre-fabricated ideology; you can have your own ideas.

But you seem to only want to have your own ideas if you can be an ideologue.

I've already told you faggots the answer

Anti-transhumanism is the next big thing. This is going to be fucking huge in the future, and more and more significant as time goes on
People are already starting to grapple with these questions as technology ramps up. What do you think universal basic income is all about?

>implying that socialism is all that bad when you're in a homogeneous high-trust society.
Eat cock desu

fuck off hippy faggot
convert or die whites only

we are trying to recreate the 1950s utopia and it will require government intervention

if you want an all white libertarian paradise you have to make some sacrifices and jewish capitalism and muh total freedumb being one of them

Except transhumanism can't be fought. It is literally the future. We either become like the borg or the wealthy will evolve into higher life forms themselves

Yes it is. We are Anti-fascist. And we support Trump because he is not a fascist and against fascism, too.

Kekism?
EVIDENCE BASED POLITICAL IDEOLOGY

Why? Transhumanism can exist anywhere, humans can only exist on Earth.

Creating a transhumanist society can happen on Mars, on the Moon, on a distant galaxy, on a space station....anywhere. Humans are locked to earth's specific environment.

Having transhumans does not mean we couldn't also have humans. Just as the existence of humans does not mean the end of all animal life

finally a half decent thread

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>Having transhumans does not mean we couldn't also have humans.
No one would destroy the other because and metal beats organics.

That's not how I meant this. What I meant was people prefer to side with some group that share a set of values such as Liberalism or Conservatism even when they have their own ideas. People just like to pick a group they most identify with and think that one will progress the majority of their beliefs the most.On a broader scale, countries prefer to do basically the same thing. They like to choose an ideology that will progress the majority of the people's wants and make the country better. Germany was once Fascist. A lot of people may not have agreed completely with Fascism but as a whole country it was the closest to their beliefs and they thought it would make their country better. (Other examples are American Capitalism, Chinese Communism, Russian Communism, etc.) That's all I'm trying to help create. A set of values and ideas that people as a whole can agree on that will help them in ruling their sovereign nations. I hope I got that across right. I'm bad at explaining things.

>if you want whites and freedom you will have to sacrifice the freedom

The point of our ideology should be, make the transhumans serve the humans

Just as humans protect nature

>Just as humans protect nature
That doesn't happen. Hippies aren't successful in protecting nature.

Being anti-fascist isn't an ideology. It just means you don't agree with that ideology or set of ideas. If you are anti-fascist wouldn't that mean you're Communism since they are opposing ideologies?

It is successful user, wherever white people live, there is respect for nature

For a small federal government that is a bunch of new laws and powers you've granted them.

You sure about that?

High trust and socialism arent compatible.

that was because of a war though. They had to starve the enemy.

Buffalo were preserved. They weren't doing to hot for a while, but their numbers today are as high as they've ever been

>takes from the best of previously existing ideologies
nihilism .nobody needs to do anything. its all pointless. your all going to rot some day and so will your kids. no point in making rich guys money. shut it down. shut it all down. every one just dont go to work . your nations gdp growth will tank and then they will beg for your help. they will plead for all of you stupid fucks to not let it end this way. then we issue demands

first you do nothing. then you get the power. then you get the money. then you get the women

So if white people can learn not to kill buffalo then darkie can also learn.

Point is the transhumans will destroy the humans and no amount of ideology or racial consciousness will change that. Morality? Who says the transhumans will have morality? Maybe they will just eliminate it from their programming?

Look up Sulla pleb

Sometimes when you need to fix things you need to break a few eggs.

America needs a hard reboot and that will require fascist principles being applied. Once the changes have been made the laws (and set into the constitution) it can be relaxed

The founding fathers didn't create America to be a mullatto nation dominated by the Jews

Yeah so

Once those laws are set you have a brand new culture that can sustain itself. Women don't need to be in the workforce. The free market needs to be freed from Jewish control.

Once some basic limits have been put into place you can let the system roll on normally...as America had done for many years before

Its a restoration of the founding ideology

>Who says the transhumans will have morality?
Well since we're the one building them, that's on us

>A specific brand of American Fascism that will restore a 1950s white utopia
You won't gain political power so you can't restore

>Read the 55 pages to understand.
Ideology feeds on emotion not understanding.

>anti-usury
Actually pretty good, lots of people have debt

Maybe.

>Maximum right wing minarchism.
No see So fascism?

>Kekism
Just no

>Once the changes have been made the laws (and set into the constitution) it can be relaxed
biggest crock of shit i've ever read. fascism doesn't just disassemble peacefully, no form of big government does.
the only aspect of big government that is not antithetical to the nation america was founded to be would be heavily enforced borders and potentially deportation squads to keep nonwhites out, anything past that is what the founding fathers ran away from

How are we going to enforce the idea that transhumans have morality? And what kind of morality? Perhaps empathy is a better word. How much empathy?

Want me to redpill you? I've already got this all worked out

sure

America was created by whites for whites. The Founding Fathers thought this was so obviously they didn't even bother writing it into the constitution verbatim because they thought it was so obvious.

Once we establish what it truly means to be an American then we can build our nation up once more.

Originally there were anti-usury laws on the books of every state. Women were culturally expected (and didn't want to) join the workforce like men.

Society has become so fucked up that new laws are required to address issues the founding fathers simply thought were common sense

And yes that will require fascism and yes that is the opposite of a small government. But it is simply a means to an end.

Once the restoration has been completed the laws will simply stand as is and it won't really affect anyone because it will become a part of society.

You have to think long term

New ideology called robertist where all branches of government are comprised of Robert from everyone loves raymand

>Once the restoration has been completed the laws will simply stand as is and it won't really affect anyone because it will become a part of society.
so once fascism is established, it will just continue to be fascism and that's the end? how is this small government in any sense of the word?

Basically it's like this

Whatever nation, person, or organization creates the highest IQ is what will dominate this planet. Whether that's an artificial brain, a computer program, some kind of distributed networked intelligence.

Once you have a 300 IQ brain, you can use that to design your 500 IQ brain. Then you can use that to design your 1000 IQ brain. Then you can use that to design your 5000 IQ brain....etc. to infinity.

Once we have these superintelligences operating on the planet, pretty much all conceivable technology will be within our grasp. Humans at this point would be basically useless as economic entities.

At the end of the day there's going to be one person, or one small group of people, that's in command of this power. They will sit on a golden throne over the entire world. What vision do they have in their mind? They can accomplish it.
>a world where all humans merge their brains?
>a world that returns to primitivism?
>a world that goes to a garden-of-eden scenario?
Or will they let the AI run amok and do it's own thing, whatever is in their hearts is what will happen.

Many people don't realize, but this is essentially how the world already operates. There are a few elite people with the money and the power that create the entire society. Whatever is in their hearts and their minds is what the society will turn out to be like. Social movements, political movements, even economic movements do not come out of the blue. They have a huge infrastructure, political blessing, and organization driving them.

Our goal should be to build up an ideological framework, and get /ourguys/ seated into these important positions. We need to make sure it's /ourguy/ sitting on that golden throne at the end of it all. That way we can implement our vision.

It's a matter of chance to be perfectly honest. But through a process of persuasion, subversion, and recruitment, we can make sure that we win the endgame of humanity

>Once the restoration has been completed
See thats the tricky part.

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ANARCHO
MONARCHISM
>A political ideology in which the monarch is counterposed against state bureaucracy, a representative for the people against the state. A dark messiah.
>Originates from Max Stirner's individualistic interpretation of Wilhelm Hegel's synthesis; and propounded by Friedrich Nietszche's construction of the 'ubermensch' or Superman
>Individualist anarchism.

see

Libertarian Fascist Party
>All citizens have unlimited access all firearm ownership (restricted for those with severe mental health issues or violent criminal record)
>Freedom of speech and press, how ever laws should dictate that the press may only report on factual event and baseless accusations are counted as sedition.
>the state should utilize propaganda clearly marked as such to support the nation (to increase birthrates, health, small business ownership etc)
>Highly nationalistic, believes in the concept of nationhood, state sovereignty and independence.
>The governments main purpose is to ensure the continuation of not only the government, but also and uniquely the nation and the people themselves
>The government should keep regulation to minimum and support the free market while subsidising small businesses and only critical production and projects when needed.
>The tax rate should be kept as low as possible.
>the education system should be totally overhauled to one that is actually and uniquely functional, basic education should be done by 16 years of age after which all students should go through a year of civil labor service followed by conscription.
>6-12 months mandatory military service for all men and women.
>militia and paramilitary organizations (like civil defense organizations) should be supported.
>the judicial system should actually be impartial and do their job
>the state should seek to protect itself and its population against enemies foreign and domestic which attempt to do it harm, violently or non violently by ideological subversion.
>freedom of practice of religion, however religions and cults should be studied and those which may be deemed harmful to national interests should be banned.
>Immigration should be possible, for those of same ethnic and cultural background willing to assimilate.
>social security spending should be minimized and 100% employment rate should the goal.

Fact: democracy is better than autocracy. This is the reason why we have the privilege to shitpost here what we want and why people in the west live better than africans and most of asia. Because for bad or worse, the leaders have accountability.

Fact: capitalism is better than a fully controlled state economy. No one wants to live in fucking NK or Cuba and nations like china have abandoned the model for a reason. This does not mean that the market should be totally unregulated though. Monopolies and cartels only bring misery and stagnation, therefore some control is always required. The US itself kicked Rockefeller in the ass for this reason which was the right thing to do.

From there on it gets tricky.
In my own opinion:
I believe in a minimum wage because businessmen sure as hell dont run on charity principles and to not impose one would result in a significant lowering of all wages and an increase in poverty (this should be made with balance ofc, since if its too high it also destroys the economy).
The very wealthy (megacorps and the alike) should always pay high taxes, decreasing along the brackets down to the middle-high class.
Middle class should have lower taxes and the low close to none, but at the same time, all business ventures from sizes micro to medium, should have very low corporate taxes and starting businesses up to a certain volume should be free of any taxes for a few years in order to foment competition.
Tariffs should be as low as possible. And the fuck with bureaucracy too.
>all politicians, members of the government, secretaries of state, deputies/senators, governors, public managers and everyone in the state apparatus with a high position should have his bank secrecy withdrawn to avoid the corruption cancer, but ONLY THESE!
Im a centrist.

Sulla did it for the Roman Republic

I would call it a small government with increased government protections for white Christians from nonwhites and Jews

How is this hard to understand
>America is a mullatto socialist shithole
>remove nonwhites
>remove dem programs
>lower taxes and regulations
>make Jewish usury illegal (thereby destroying Jewish financial power over the country which they used to destroy us)
>mandate women out of the workforce and into the home (so male providers can earn wages high enough to support a family making socialist concerns irrelevant)

There is literally nothing wrong with this. You make the correction and move on.

You are fixating on a few tumultuous decades when the aftermath would be a glorious white conservative/libertarian paradise worthy of your children

>being unironically this dumb

Ah yes: faggots can marry but not adopt children. The internet is free and net neutrality should be endorsed.
Drugs are illegal included weed, but tobacco and booze cease to pay special taxes.

>birth control methods like condoms, pills, etc should be taxed in 300% out of spite because I cant score shit and since its my government I deserve a little treat

Not bad... better than any of the shit you fags could come up with.

>Our goal should be to build up an ideological framework, and get /ourguys/ seated into these important positions. We need to make sure it's /ourguy/ sitting on that golden throne at the end of it all. That way we can implement our vision.
The problem is that the people in those positions of power are basically selfish psychopaths. They would go along with our ideology as long as it serves them and no further. They would backstab us and betray our ideology. I think we need to have nations competing against each other. Anti-globalism is important for this reason. Nations must compete with each other to ensure honesty in leadership. If one ideology/leader screws over its people the other ideology/leader will take over.

If we are to exert influence it is important that we are democratic. It is important that the people remain in control of the government.

It is very important that the people have democratic control over the means of production. We are going to have communism of consumption (welfare/UBI) so we must also have communism of production. The wealthy must not be allowed to own all the robots.

I like yours so far

>Libertarian Fascist Party
The problem is gaining power. Few would join your party.

has flaws though

>The tax rate should be kept as low as possible

No such thing. Either flat or different by brackets. Someone always loses.

radical centrist is a Sup Forums ideology that really needs to be embraced. reverse the clock by 16 years and tell people they don’t need to have an opinion on everything. ban political discussion from the public and workplace

now imagine what you have

but where is the smallness of the government? in your list you have
>neither big nor small government
>big government removal
>neither big nor small government
>neither big nor small government
>big government
>big government
where are the personal freedoms and the individualism in this ideology? what makes the government small and focused on liberty? it's just fascism, i'm not seeing any libertarian aspects of it.

>radical centrist
The problem with centrism is that you aren't radical enough for people to respect you.

Animalism
accept human nature
accept nature
accept survival of th fittest
laws exist, but only to BTFO antisocial sociopaths
society can still exist, but must be based on natural theory

>accept survival of th fittest
>antisocial sociopaths
What if antisocial sociopaths are the fittest?

This is still a pipe dream. Our biohack abilities are shit. Just look at GMO's and implants. They are worse than the original.

You take a chip from a credit card and put it in your head and some MIT asshole spoofs your brain.

The only thing you gain from transhumanism is the ability to be hacked at leisure.

>I think we need to have nations competing against each other.
No definitely not. You don't realize, a single small asteroid nudged from orbit from the asteroid belt is enough to wipe out all life on earth. We already have weapons capable of destroying the world, in the future it will get even worse. If nations fight and compete with an endlessly escalating technology, humans will be phased out simply out of the need to produce a superior organism to defeat the opponent.

>muh means of production
Mate, you don't understand that scarcity is going to be completely erased. We are going to have to impose scarcity artificially so that our people don't end up looking like pic related.

Free breeding will shred your genome faster than radiation. You need selection pressures to keep people fit, healthy, and strong. Life will always necessarily be a competition.

Well for starters its not socialist.

Its a white Christian male dominated system that rests on traditional social values for stability.

The freedom is this...
>low taxes
>lean and efficient bureaucracy
>freedom from usury and Jews
>freedom from nonwhites
>freedom from dumb women getting involved in politics and ruining the economy
>right to bear arms
>right to own property and keep it, no property tax
>small scale military, heavy reliance on local/state militias for national defense

The biggest problem is obvious creating the government in the first place and then following through with the plans. Once that can be done its just an update to the constitution and we can go back to having the Republic the founders intended

that’s why the government punishes corporations who allow employees to discuss politics in the workplace. just put it under attempt to overthrow the government or something, it doesn’t matter. if politician discussion was banned from public areas, you would solve all problems

we got this way by having everyone feeling the need to develop a public opinion on every little topic. a single digit percentage cared about gay marriage, but teenagers felt the need to bring it up around friends. then it was trans, white people, now it’s literal communism. it goes so much further.

people care about very little until they’re strong armed into an opinion. usually right learners aren’t the strong arms

You got to be fucking kidding me.

Sounds like Saudi Arabia/every other worthless shithole
No thanks, ill die peacefully fighting against this edgy nightmare

>Raise the cost of capital to infinity.
>Good idea

There's a reason anti-semites are always losers.