Elon Musk completely BTFO by Lockheed Martin

Why did Elon not know Lockheed was doing their powerpoint presentation first? I mean, in the war of powerpoint presentations, I thought Elon was King?

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literally fake news, fuck off nigger sage

haha at least that idiot didn't marry the roastie he was dating earlier this year though

still a cuck who only got rich because of gibs and money laundering though

why is it fake news?

the shills learned that that phrase is powerful and now they're trying to use it

they're affirmative action hires

Elon Musk is a scam artist

Mars is inevitable and we should have been there decades ago. It's not like he's attempting to reverse aging or create a time machine.

Space marines when? Trump I'm not tired of winning yet!!!!

do you really think anything he does will get us to mars?

Difference between SpaceX and Lockheed Martin is that SpaceX has already achieved necessary cost decreases already.

It's fake news because Lockheed Martin presented some CGI and pretended that proves anything. While the ITS is still also CGI, the difference is that the first stage reusability technology is already being used in actual missions - a technology which LM doesn't have, btw, and will take years to accomplish just as it took Elon years.

The shills were the ones that introduced it last time I checked (as part of muh Russia hax), and since then both sides have used it.

Price decreases in rocket launches and reusable first stages are real. If he's a scam artist, Lockheed Martin, Boeing etc are also, and they abused taxpayer money way more than he has.

After the last press conference he gave, yes. Getting a human on mars isn't a huge deal. We were on the moon in the 1960s with that stone age technology. There just hasn't been much of an incentive to do it given the cost.

>this amount of delusional shilling
Have you ever seen the books for space x? It’s basically a giant slush fund for free gibs

I can get up on a stage and claim a bunch of shit but it doesn't mean it will happen

the fuck is the point of going to that shit planet?

I don't think getting us there is that much of an insurmountable challenge.
The problem is rather that the reward is more or less non-existent. There needs to be some incentive to do it and in this case there isn't really any apart from being able to say that you shot someone to Mars.

Also, at the end he discussed using the technology for earth travel. So already the research toward getting us to mars has yielded other benefits. This will interest (((investors))). Ultimately, the whole thing hinges on money.

who gives a shit about mars, we should be making robots that mine asteroids

he just stole shit out of the man in the high castle

>who gives a shit about mars
That was exactly what I said. Going to Mars should be doable, we just don't have any reason to do so because who gives a shit about Mars?

this. Mars is dead and there's not enough fission material in our solar system to kickstart its core.
Maybe if it were under a giant magnifying glass used to boil it slowly.

He should focus on fixing Earf instead

I'm no expert user, but the benefits must exist or else they wouldn't be doing it. Most are probably long-term and super risky. This isn't about some nationalistic space race. It's a business venture. The passage about "making us a planetary species" is just rhetoric for the masses.

>The shills were the ones that introduced it last time I checked (as part of muh Russia hax), and since then both sides have used it.
actually it was due to pizzagate and spirit cooking taking off shortly before the election

they aren't going to mars dipshit it's just a scam to get money

It's their hook to get more funding.
It's a pretty wide spread strategy, you promise something that sounds cool but stay very vague and just let the audience project their own wishes onto all those holes you had in your presentation. A bunch of them will be clever enough to realize that you didn't actually say anything and can't provide a reason why this would be a good idea, but a lot of other dumbfucks will throw their money at you.

That's basically how the whole softskill trainer industry works and those people get your monthly wage for a single seminar.

Because the article states that he did no presentation but It literally happened a few hours ago

To not succumb to the Fermi Paradox

>we just don't have any reason to do so because who gives a shit about Mars?

I want you to imagine, for an instant, a Giant meteor impacting on Earth, and wiping out all life.

Now, I want you to imagine that humanity doesn't have any colonies or populations outside of Earth.

Just let that sink in for a minute.

And you could replace "Earth destroying meteor" with practically any "End of the world" scenario that suits your fancy.

The benefit is humanity has a chance of becoming a Kardashev 1.3 or higher civilization.

oh screw you,
Elon Musk is a visionaire, he's going to turn us into space traveling (done with free energy ofc) transhuman immortals that are connected to a skynet/collective subconciouse AI via neuralink.
If it wasn't for visionaire like him we would still be in caves, you fucking straya redneck, go fuck an emo, faggot.

i'll paypal you a you

plus, no niggers

a whole planet that's never had one nigger on it

Its purely to figure out the tech needed and then be forced to develop it. When I say technology, I don't just mean "water purifier" e.g. but the actual hardware, working for long periods of time, adapted to the conditions.

Even landing anything larger than a big dog on mars is a ballache and requires special tech to do so, i.e. curiositys skycrane.

the only reason to go to mars is so we can send all the niggers into space and then let them die in a terrible accident

That's not a very good motivator for people because if they remained on Earth they'll be dead no matter what and why should they care about the continued survival of the species afterwards? They and their whole bloodline will be gone.

If we are talking about abstract motivations I could come up with some other stuff like national pride too, but that's no hard motivation for people to go along with it.
Also the topic was rather on why they are obsessing over Mars specifically, not if space colonization in general makes sense. Mars is a dead planet and any technology that could change that would have to be so far advanced that a meteorite is no threat anymore.

>I want you to imagine, for an instant, a Giant meteor impacting on Earth, and wiping out all life.
Humanity is more dangerous to Earth than Meteors.
Meteors are the least threatening solution to the Fermi Paradox. Bigger threats are a stagnant AI and intellectual devolution of humanity, dramatic climate change after a nuclear war or a plague.

>And you could replace "Earth destroying meteor" with practically any "End of the world" scenario that suits your fancy.
Zombie apocalypse is more likely than a large enough meteor hitting the earth.

what did Lockheed Martin mean by this?

niggers and dune coons are a bigger threat than a zombie apocalypse

>tfw no white ethno planet

Only because we are pussies and still cling to this "everyone is equal" bullshit.
They wouldn't be a problem if we didn't let them.

We need a base point in which to start galactic wars

Retrograde landings on Earth are more difficult than retrograde landings on Mars. The biggest problem we currently have is that our rockets are too small to transport a significant payload to MTO
The reason to colonize Mars is because fuck it, it's easier than Venus and it's hard enough to be a challenge.

>> mfw we come into the age where space travel dosent matter anymore

holy shit that sucks. literally no one can or want to go in space and do cool space stuff.
We need definitely new engines or technology that brings us faster to other planets

Vacuum decay is the scariest threat

yeah I need to replace my vacuum cleaner it just doesn't suck like it used to

use a dyson, hell that shit suck your brain out

Current technology is enough to colonize the Milky way, humans just lack the ambition to do it.

Musk is such a child holy shit!

>Vacuum cleaner doesn't suck properly
How to even masturbate?

source?

>why should they care about the continued survival of the species afterwards?

Not everyone is a self centered nihilist like you.

Merckel.

because there is oxygen and water in that planet.

fuck off dyson shill

But why?
Wasn't it since the beginning of the star race the target destination to go to the stars ASAP?

When did the page turn? Whats the matter now?
I work with rocket scientists a bit, the only thing they do is super boring shit or build new communication satellites

If Alien taught me anything one baby nigger will survive and still manage to rob whites

just go down to the milk bar, plenty of milky ways there

>tripfag calls me self-centered
lel

Exactly.

But I think I see a change incoming. The 21st century is a testbed for multiculti fail project, future generations will learn from this and remove the weaklings.

>Lockheed Martin
>Martin
>Martian
Wake up sheeple.

>land on moon with duct tape and tin foil
>can't land on Mars
I smell conspiracy.

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I wouldn't be surprised. He's the founder of paypal after all, scumbag company.

Ahh yes yes the "Elon Musk" is a scam artist meme again.
So let me guess he wouldnt be a scam artist if he were republican right ?
Despite saving the white race while fucking super hot aryan women on daily basis and pumping out white children every year he is finally advancing on something humanity ignored for decades:

Space travel
SpaceX development and the advance they made with reusable rockets ( and please dont come here with shit like :Space shuttles were reused!!!" because the space shuttle engine was so shit it was incredible costly to get it in shape after 1! flight)

And everybody saying : B..But why do we need space hurr we should focus on da earth sound like niggers in the 70s when the Apollo program was shut down because people complained there wasnt gibs me dat for da children

So please fuck off with your narrow vision

did he just buy it off someone else?

F

go watch rick and morty faggot

idk I thought he was part of the founding group, the entire group of them that created paypal are called the "paypal mafia" because they all went on to found other major tech companies
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal_Mafia

Aren't you the one who is flooding europe with millions of refugees in the desperate hope that one of them will eventually fuck you?

>Wasn't it since the beginning of the star race the target destination to go to the stars ASAP?
Space race kicked off with Kennedy saying
> We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard

>When did the page turn? Whats the matter now?
The leadership realized it's harder and more expensive then they thought it would be.
The next logical step a colony on Mars would be significantly more expensive than the Saturn V program. The leadership prefers to steal from the people than to dream big.

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>So let me guess he wouldnt be a scam artist if he were republican right ?
What?

it wasn't his idea he merged his company with the company that was developing what paypal ended up becoming

>But why?
Missing social coherence thanks to all the failed social engineering projects.
Something like that would require the resources of a country in the tens to hundreds of millions - and you need to give them a reason why they should be willing to contribute to it.
The easiest way to do that would be national pride, but that was the first thing they axed when they started their globalism shit.

You need to be at least 18 to visit this website.

Can't even make a practical electric car.
Fuck this guy.

Tbf. Curiosity was the size of an SUV and only needed a skycrane to avoid being ruined by all the dust kicked up from the landing
A landing module will be a lot more durable

The page turned few months/years after the moon mission.
The moon was conquered by Americans the space race was over Ameria has own.

You know what happened after Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins arrived on earth?
People didnt care anymore. Every Apollo mission after the first one was seen by less and less people.
In the end the NaSA had to pay the networks to fucking show Astronauts.
And you know why?

Because people said:
>We should rather look for the problems on earth like programms for dat children to get better education

People stopped dreaming because they thought this was it, the moon as peak of human willpower to reach the stars.
People said why should we waste dollars on something such useless as fucking rockets?

These people had children and now America is spending so much money on fucking wars nobody needs that they could have spent this money to conquer every planet in our solar system.
Apple could invest in space travel and we would see Mars coloization in a few years but this wouldnt generate a short therm profit so nobody fucking does it.

We are trapped in a system that just thinks about benefits for themselves and not humanity

Thats what happened Norway bro dreams dissapeared and only greed remained

Dead astronauts these days would be a PR disaster. So why actually do it when you could just talk about it forever? That's the extent of the conspiracy I think. People obsessed with popular science will throw money at anything whether it will happen or not.

teslas are like 90% toyota parts but with tons of spyware

anybody who buys one is a cuck even if they're quick

Go watch Alex Jonas screaming about child slave colonies on Mars nigger

i didn't know he was a member of the Jonas brothers

>You need to be at least 18 to visit this website.

And?

>geologist friend thinks humans should not go to Mars because we'd fuck up hypothetical exotic ecosystems of single celled extremophiles

This is your mind on green socialism.
It's like saying don't leave your bed because you might step on a bug.

Kill your friend because hs is a faggot

A lot of people are fucking retarded when it comes to that. I do think that we shouldn't needlessly wipe out other species through indifference, but then you also have retards who artificially keep some specific horse breeds alive that shit don't even manage to get half of their offspring out of the womb alive and then suffer from tons of genetic defects that make their lives very painful fast. Because "it would be sad if they were gone forever".

im pretty sure space is fake news. the stars in the sky are just lights ... we live in a dome and the heavely spheres rotate around us.

would it be sad if jews were gone forever because I for one would not be sad

Wait, there are people here who seriously think space tech and colonising the solar system is a bad idea?

what the fuck?

mars is just step 1.

the legacy of the human race is to dominate the stars, cucks.

Nice try Mr. Maas, but you won't arrest me today!

no there are people here who think Elon Musk is full of fucking shit

>So why actually do it when you could just talk about it forever?
Musk estimated the mission would launch in 2022. That's a shorter estimate than what he made at last year's press conference (10 years or so I think). 5 years goes by quick. We won't need to wait long to see if he's full of shit.

damn the goyim are getting smarter, time to import more niggers to germany

waahh , im an atheist.... science is my religion, neil de greasy tyson is my priest... i come from stardust... im so insignificant....... man youre a fucking gullible idiot

if we want to get those asteroid resources we need a station on mars to reach the belt m8

oh, well, that's pretty stupid, too.

Musk pretty muck kickstarted the new ZOMG SPACE!!!! craze, and i have a hard-on watching every single Dragon rocket landing.

do you stick your dragon dildo up your arsehole while you watch it?

>Wait, there are people here who seriously think space tech and colonising the solar system is a bad idea?
There's nothing wrong with that. If anything those who spurn Technology should just be left behind to live a primitive existence. No need to force them to come or exterminate them.

all fake.... we should explore the oceans before the galaxy. we should drill to the core before mars, we should explore the arctics, before venus.

>The African turtle boats lay their eggs on the Italian beaches, where they hatch and migrate north to feed on mutti's left teat.

>all fake.... we should explore the oceans before the galaxy. we should drill to the core before mars, we should explore the arctics, before venus.

Why?

You know a lot, Gypsy, and I agree with you.
The tone of Musk dick-sucking indicates you are compromised, though. Probably a Tesla investor or Musk Industries hopeful?
>Lockheed, Boeing worse than Musk
What is your point on that moral equivalency?
Why is morality the fallback?
These are questions one must ask when reading Musk dick-sucking as you posted.
The dick-sucking is fact enough to NOT like Musk and his industries.
Of course Sup Forums knows that as Musk hires numales and feminists to cheerlead his relatively prosaic accomplishments.