Should she rot in jail?

At what age should it be legal to leave your kids unsupervised home alone overnight?

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Erin Lee Macke, a 30-year-old from Johnston, Iowa, allegedly left the United States on Sept. 20, planning to return nearly two weeks later on Oct 1, according to the Des Moines Register. In the meantime, police say she left her children — one six- and seven-year-old and two 12-year-olds — alone at their house with no one to watch over them.

Police received a tip about Macke leaving her children alone and checked on her house on Sept. 21 to see what was going on.

That’s when police say they found the four children. The kids told police that their mother didn’t arrange for someone to watch over them while she would be gone.

Macke was contacted by police over the phone while in Germany and was told to return to the states, according to Fox News. She told authorities that none of her babysitters could watch the kids, so she just decided to leave her two pre-teens in charge, police say.

>white nationalists will defend this

>paying child support for a two week vacation in Europe.

I don't blame her. Europe is so much better than America.

12 is a little young. She should be fined, but not jailed. She should also lose primary custody, especially if the father is trying to get custody. Judge should be hanged as well.

It's a little ironic because she will be punished for abandoning her kids with forced abandonment of the kids.

They're fucking 12, they can take care of themselves.

chances are if their mother thought it was a good idea to go to Europe without them, she hasn't taught them anything useful

>They're fucking 12, they can take care of themselves.
You'd think so, but she had her first two at 18 years old. Do you really think these children were raised in an environment that fostered skills in self reliance and proper decision making?

And your brethren even in their 20s and 30s can't.
Really makes you think

Yeah, but 12 year olds who were raised by a mother like this shouldnt be in charge of a 6 and 7 year old. That's endangerment.

Her body her choice

why do bitches always want to travel? Was this women driven to seek Chad's cock in Europe. They seem to just piss money away on traveling all the time.

She should lose custody of her children for being a total failure of a mother and spend some time in jail for endangering them. What if her house had been robbed while she was out cockhopping and someone killed her kids? Stupid cunt.

Also the judge who gave her custody in the first place should be castrated.

What is the ethnicity of the kids?

No.
This is extremely inconsiderate,she should be jailed.

I don't understand what the big deal is...

When I was 12 and my sister was 10 my parents left us at home while they went to go on vacation in Pheonix for two weeks. It was during the school year too (November), they left me in charge to take care of us both. They left enough money for 3 weeks worth of groceries, to which I took care of both weeks. It was honestly fucking awesome because we got to do whatever we wanted for 2 weeks. I pretty much played video games after school for 2 weeks straight while my sister would either invite friends over or have sleepovers at friends houses.

People seem to think kids are incapable of taking care of themselves and being responsible...

Just because you could at age 12 doesn't mean other 12 years old could do that. Not every kids would act like a fucking Home Alone movie

You don't leave kids alone, especially with strangers

Maybe they had family nearby? My grandparents lived next door which enabled certain perks most parents don't have with their kids.
>tfw 12 and comfy at home alone all night with a loaded firearm in every room and the knowledge to know how to use them

>while in Germany
Good thing she didn't get to enjoy it at least

Sounds like a fun party, why wasn't I invited?

Bitches always think they are missing out on something. Dudes learn from an early age that its the same shit no matter where you go. Basically, women are stupid.

This.

I just know she is a coal burner

Show your real flag aussie

That's why you're on white nationalist board instead of having a job,fucking you gf and going places.

American women, the finest cunts on earth

american Family Court is the best invention by Humanity ever

The absolute state of western white women. Probably wanted to ride the jamal cock carousel over there

Are you going to trust your two able 12 year olds to handle the household while you're away, or some pedophile babysitter?

>One 6 and one 7

That's pretty nuts for 2 weeks, lad

sleuthing power level

>Think I'm somewhat of a failure of a human being
>Realize I've never abandoned four children in my care to take a Eurocuck vacation

>magapedes in charge of adult understanding of the world

she wont get any jail time, just a fine and ticket process

>short anwser: yes
>long anwser: yeeeeeeeeesss

A 12 year old could probably take care of themselves, but I wouldn't trust them taking care of other people.

I have the day off and am waiting for water to boil to make coffee. This was the first thread that I saw where, for once, I can relate instead of lurk. You're right about the lack of GF though haha.

I was a latch-key kid in 80s as both my parents worked in the city. As a 11yo I got home from school at about 4pm. My mother got home at 5.30 by the time I had already had a shower, changed, cooked and eaten my meal, fed the cat, watched TV for a bit and started my homework. My Dad then got home at around 7pm.

Nothing happened to me, no-one died.

My brother watched me when I was 7 and he was 12. But my parents didn’t have us in their teens and taught us the basics of self preservation.

Two weeks actually is pretty ad now that I think about it. Maybe the kids knew how to cook.

Shoot her once in the gut and leave her to die.

>Life is too short for this shit
Probably that woman

>We could do whatever we wanted

Hence why it's a bad idea

This is a non issue desu. Mother is a cunt and im glad of her punishment. But jail is retarded sentence

Damn I was really hoping the story ended with you dying.

well....I do think a couple of 12 year olds should be perfectly capable of taking care of a 6 and 7 year old over night....but 2 weeks?
Nah...bitch can rot in jail for all I care....

You have to put yourself in the perspective of a 12 year old, this would be: playing video games for more than a couple hours, using the telephone whenever we wanted, using the (at the time shit) internet whenever we wanted, staying up super late etc etc.

I mere speak for myself and my sister in that situation, however.

Anybody who fantasizes about dumping their kids off so they can go on vacation and pretend to me single is a shitty parent. They're basically confessing to themselves their kids are shitty little brats. Family vacations are supposed to be fun. You're supposed to look forward to doing things with your kids.

anonymous tip was probably the dad.

Kids should be old enough at 12 to take care of themselves and their younger siblings, though obviously most kids these days aren't mature enough to be trusted with that sort of responsibility.
But even in a society that permitted this, anyone with half a brain would still ask neighbors to keep an eye on their kids and check in every once in a while. She likely wouldn't have done this because she would have been telling people that she was doing something illegal.

America is really strict about these things. There was some woman 3 years ago that left her 9 year old kid in the park across the street while she went to work at McDonalds, she got arrested for abandoning her kid.

Most kids of white trash are pretty self reliant. Drunk parents, high parents, and parents who go away for 2-5 days without notice is pretty common in these situations.

They kids were, sadly, probably fine and perhaps better without her there.

>anyone with half a brain would still ask neighbors
Welcome to our new and improved low-trust society.

25% chance they'll tell you to fuck off
25% chance they'll call CPS
25% chance they'll molest your kids
25% chance they'll kindly keep an eye on your kids

They're not really "self reliant", they're being made to do with less. No proper meals, wearing dirty clothes, nobody reading to them at night. These are the kids that end up on drugs, dropping out of high school, etc

Pretty much this. A roll of the dice.

Leaving a 12yo home alone with her younger siblings for a couple hours: good, teaching responsibility.
Leaving them alone a couple weeks: serious neglect.
Not complicated.

>Alone for 2 weeks and in charge of a 6 and 7 year old for 2 weeks is the same as being alone for an hour and a half

>left her 9 year old kid in the park across the street while she went to work at McDonalds

that's literally abandoning a child. at a fucking park of all places.

I know it was fun for you. I get that. But that doesn't mean it was a strong decision on your parents part.

>Oldest kids are 12 year olds
Eh... basically babysitting age already. If the kids are mature, you're fine. (I doubt it given the decisions of this mother though)

I would have been fine with it if she did the bare fucking minimum and arranged to have a neighbour swing by regularly to check up on them. And also had a real reason to disappear for 2 weeks.

This is really wrong, I rode my bike to the park to the park when i was 4 y/ o. Sad the next generation can never be left alone,

>4 children
>no husband around?
>unsure if all kids even have same father
>leaving 12 year olds to care for a 6 year old
>not having any relative stay with them or check in on them

This degenerate thot literally abandoned her children and went to a complete other continent so she could get some of that tourist muslim cock. She shouldn't be jailed, she should be executed.

>30 - 12 = 18 - 1 = 17
>no father
what a complete surprise

$100 her faceberg/dating profile says "family is the most important thing to me"

>2 12 year olds

i'd be willing to let them stay unsupervised for 48 hours before needing a check-in, and they'd both have phone access in case they need help or whatever

but leaving a 6 and 7 year old in their care is just flat out a no-no

>Why do millennials refuse to grow up? Why are kids these days so soft and effeminate?
Must be the tap water. Surely it has nothing to do with the reactions to this story.

you're retarded, dice have 6 sides generally, not 4...

your a pussy

No the state will take care of them. Foster home programs show how successful that is lmao kys commie

Hahaha. You are assuming that there is only 1 father for 4 children. More likely 4 different father's & probably none of them want custody anyway.

I'd be surprised if she even knew who any of them were.

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I took care of my younger brothers and sisters when I was 12 it's not a big deal as long as you don't live in niggerville

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>Having friday off
Get a real job

>Should she rot in jail?
No that would be too nice just let her go back to caring for her children with child protective services checking in everyday till they grow up that is punishment enough for her.

This

>12

nigga thats a grown ass man in most cultures, and even 80 years ago 12year olds were working and making a living.

Benito juarez was fucking 11 when he left home and went to mexico city to become the president of mexico

when i was 12 i knew what the fuck was up

>nobody reading to them at night
you must think are Disney cartoons are historically accurate

Wouldn't leave kids unattended until theyre 16 at a mininum. In a family situation like this the youngest would have to be 16.

They seek fulfillment through accomplishment. For some reason they think flying in a plane is something worth praise.

i live with a 55y/o that was put in foster care as a kid, he was raped by the foster parent & ran away. when he got in contact with the state authorities, they beat him and sent him back.

you really think child care, cares about your kid

Why is this a problem? If they had food or money to buy food, and emergency numbers to call in case something happens, how is this in any way bad?

>They seek fulfillment through accomplishment.
You give them far too much credit. They simply want to mimic behavior they've seen. TV and movies established the trope of women traveling the globe to feel free and happy. So now women look to this as if its a real thing. No different from how weddings came to be enormous elaborate affairs that cost six figures.

its monkey see, monkey do.

There's a big difference between getting home before your parents or staying home while they go out to dinner and being alone for two weeks.

>probably none of them want custody anyway
forget custody, nobody wanted them for 2 weeks

>No proper meals,

I'd wager mom can't cook anyway

>wearing dirty clothes,

I can't remember my mom doing my laundry

>nobody reading to them at night.

She'd rather watch tv than do that anyway.

lol! Having weekends off is a sure sign you have a fake job

>Plebbit spacing

Bad parenting, but probably shouldn't put her in jail... just take the kids away/ sterilize her.

No, I had old fashioned parenting technique known as a "dad"

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12? If prepubescent she needs to go to prison.

6 year olds need to a parented, otherwise they will eat chips for dinner, horde chocolate frosting under their bed, play on the stairs, get a mouth full of cavities, watch 10 hours of talmudvision a day, etc.

This isn't the problem.

This is. Where's daddy? More importantly, where's all his money going? She went to GERMANY because MIGRANT COCK.

In all honesty, a 12 year old during school break periods with a well stocked pantry/fridge can watch after themselves all they want. Especially if they are law abiding whites.

year olds need to a parented, otherwise they will eat chips for dinner, horde chocolate frosting under their bed, play on the stairs, get a mouth full of cavities, watch 10 hours of talmudvision a day, etc.
Yeah, but two of them were twelve, clearly you can tell them how to handle the other two? It's not like the mom was gone for 2 years or something.

Let's be honest though. The bitch who thinks leaving her kids on their own for two weeks is cool was never doing that kinda stuff to begin with.

Not for two weeks you fucking nigger.

not your kids, kids arent slave to the state

go fuck yourself

rainbow flag, go figures someone who expects to enforce their beliefs on other people

people reach mental maturing at different ages, the more evolved of us, such as myself, are way ahead of the curve, we are genetically superior

people who try to procreate my ramming their dick up someones ass wouldnt understand, then demand that the state provide them someone else's kid

funny, that Jewish think 13 year olds are adults, and that 100 years ago, 15 was middle age, 13 year old adults used to make the world go round

That isn't a big deal if farm country. My farming cousins were driving, welding and running the overflow flower and produce stand when they were 10-11.