Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Always be aware of your surroundings. Nothing is by accident:
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Jeremiah Ortiz
communism
Blake Gonzalez
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Blake Lee
>bread
Hudson Thompson
KEK
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Jason Hernandez
Cuck.
Grayson Powell
(((Communism)))
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Kevin Stewart
*communism and wtf is that flag?
Angel Long
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism. Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society. Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies: Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/gommies.gom/starve/ GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here: gommies.gom/ohfugme/ It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving. Resources: gommies.gom/ohshid/gommies.gom/1984/gommies.gom/guck/gommies.gom/probaganda/gommies.gom/XDDDD/gommies.gom/wheresfood/gommies.gom/benis/
Ethan Jones
Your ideology is bad and you should feel bad
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Aaron Russell
>realcurrencies.wordpress. If the Jews lie constantly about the holocaust, 9/11, and more, what stops them from lying in their own webpage, why are communists so retarded? Only idiots would make fast conclusions with only one source.
Alexander Cook
classic pol right here
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Hunter Fisher
>enemey Nazis confirmed illiterate.
Cameron Miller
A least this commie is honest about wanting to murder several million people.
Most try to deny it.
Jason Walker
Socialism and Communism means the following: >Worthless currency do to non-resource backing and often excessive printing >To prop up unsustainable government budgets taxation of worker's wages often is above 40% to 60%, meaning the actually working week and day for the average person is extremely high as they still must pay for their food and living but now must prop up the government >Means of production is owned by the 'people' which is just government bureaucrats. All means are not managed efficiently, without a market system the allotment of means to where they're needed are arbitrary and dictated by connection to government >People not owning anything leads to things breaking down large scale >Growing portion of the population does not work or barely works, is sustained by the dwindling middle class >A massive state bureaucracy is necessary just to direct the planned economy, leading to never ending growth of the state, meaning a stateless society is impossible.
This entire graph is either misleading or outright false. I could go through how it's parts on Capitalism are wrong but it's either talking about socialist systems (bread and circuses) or the effects of socialist systems on capitalism (workers being replaced by machines due to regulation and minimum wage laws). As usual, commies are retarded.
Jeremiah Flores
Nazism was competing with capitalism and communism for the global hegemony, thus an enemy to communism and capitalism, since the US was capitalist during that time, it is a logical argument to say both (((communists)) and Nazis were America's enemy... do I really had to explain that? You faggs are literal brainlets.
Gavin Anderson
The US is capitalist now, Jewish capitalism will always win it seems
Jayden Gray
when this guy still cared more for his people than any commie since ...
Jason Jackson
That's more of a plutocracy or oligarchy..... something in between maybe, I'm not the one to define it. Capitalism in itself is the most effective economic system.
Colton Green
Lol he cared about his people as much as any commie which is not at all
Andrew Moore
OP is a faggot sitting in a warm puddle of nigger's spunk and brown KY jelly. KYS, Commie pedo fagot.
James Turner
>I wonder why he decided to stop the war with Japan and lose humiliatingly because he all the resources to win the war despite early setbacks
Blake Anderson
>capitalism is the most effective economics systems Not even close
Leo Morales
This gets better every time I read it, I unironically think this is majestically ebin as fuck
Jayden Gomez
1. Monarchists, of various shades, Octobrists, etc. These once-powerful factions no longer existed openly; they either worked underground, or their members joined the Cadets, as the Cadets came by degrees to stand for their political programme. Representatives in this book, Rodzianko, Shulgin.
2. Cadets. So-called from the initials of its name, Constitutional Democrats. Its official name is “Party of the People’s Freedom.” Under the Tsar composed of Liberals from the propertied classes, the Cadets were the great party of political reform, roughly corresponding to the Progressive Party in America. When the Revolution broke out in March, 1917, the Cadets formed the first Provisional Government. The Cadet Ministry was overthrown in April because it declared itself in favour of Allied imperialistic aims, including the imperialistic aims of the Tsar’s Government. As the Revolution became more and more a social economic Revolution, the Cadets grew more and more conservative. Its representatives in this book are: Miliukov, Vinaver, Shatsky.
2a. Group of Public Men. After the Cadets had become unpopular through their relations with the Kornilov counter-revolution, the Group of Public Men was formed in Moscow. Delegates from the Group of Public Men were given portfolios in the last Kerensky Cabinet. The Group declared itself non-partisan, although its intellectual leaders were men like Rodzianko and Shulgin. It was composed of the more “modern” bankers, merchants and manufacturers, who were intelligent enough to realise that the Soviets must be fought by their own weapon—economic organisation. Typical of the Group: Lianozov, Konovalov.
Zachary Nelson
begone commie
you destroyed our faith, our culture, and our people. burn in hell forever
James Gutierrez
3. Populist Socialists, or Trudoviki (Labour Group). Numerically a small party, composed of cautious intellectuals, the leaders of the Cooperative societies, and conservative peasants. Professing to be Socialists, the Populists really supported the interests of the petty bourgeoisie—clerks, shopkeepers, etc. By direct descent, inheritors of the compromising tradition of the Labour Group in the Fourth Imperial Duma, which was composed largely of peasant representatives. Kerensky was the leader of the Trudoviki in the Imperial Duma when the Revolution of March, 1917, broke out. The Populist Socialists are a nationalistic party. Their representatives in this book are: Peshekhanov, Tchaikovsky.
4. Russian Social Democratic Labour Party. Originally Marxian Socialists. At a party congress held in 1903, the party split, on the question of tactics, into two factions—the Majority (Bolshinstvo), and the Minority (Menshinstvo). From this sprang the names “Bolsheviki” and “Mensheviki”—“members of the majority” and “members of the minority.” These two wings became two separate parties, both calling themselves “Russian Social Democratic Labour Party,” and both professing to be Marxians. Since the Revolution of 1905 the Bolsheviki were really the minority, becoming again the majority in September, 1917.
a. Mensheviki. This party includes all shades of Socialists who believe that society must progress by natural evolution toward Socialism, and that the working-class must conquer political power first. Also a nationalistic party. This was the party of the Socialist intellectuals, which means: all the means of education having been in the hands of the propertied classes, the intellectuals instinctively reacted to their training, and took the side of the propertied classes. Among their representatives in this book are: Dan, Lieber, Tseretelli.
Daniel Nelson
b. Mensheviki Internationalists. The radical wing of the Mensheviki, internationalists and opposed to all coalition with the propertied classes; yet unwilling to break loose from the conservative Mensheviki, and opposed to the dictatorship of the working-class advocated by the Bolsheviki. Trotzky was long a member of this group. Among their leaders: Martov, Martinov.
c. Bolsheviki. Now call themselves the Communist Party, in order to emphasise their complete separation from the tradition of “moderate” or “parliamentary” Socialism, which dominates the Mensheviki and the so-called Majority Socialists in all countries. The Bolsheviki proposed immediate proletarian insurrection, and seizure of the reins of Government, in order to hasten the coming of Socialism by forcibly taking over industry, land, natural resources and financial institutions. This party expresses the desires chiefly of the factory workers, but also of a large section of the poor peasants. The name “Bolshevik” can not be translated by “Maximalist.” The Maximalists are a separate group. Among the leaders: Lenin, Trotzky, Lunatcharsky.
d. United Social Democrats Internationalists. Also called the Novaya Zhizn (New Life) group, from the name of the very influential newspaper which was its organ. A little group of intellectuals with a very small following among the working-class, except the personal following of Maxim Gorky, its leader. Intellectuals, with almost the same programme as the Mensheviki Internationalists, except that the Novaya Zhizn group refused to be tied to either of the two great factions. Opposed the Bolshevik tactics, but remained in the Soviet Government. Other representatives in this book: Avilov, Kramarov.
Isaiah Johnson
Do you trust me?
Logan Jones
>suffers numerous defeats against japs >annihilation of Baltic fleet >gets Russia into ww1 a war they were not able to fight adequately >mass mutiny of soldiers >gets overthrown What a great leader
Jeremiah Lee
e. Yedinstvo. A very small and dwindling group, composed almost entirely of the personal following of Plekhanov, one of the pioneers of the Russian Social Democratic movement in the 80’s, and its greatest theoretician. Now an old man, Plekhanov was extremely patriotic, too conservative even for the Mensheviki. After the Bolshevik coup d’etat, Yedinstvo disappeared.
5. Socialist Revolutionary party. Called Essaires from the initials of their name. Originally the revolutionary party of the peasants, the party of the Fighting Organisations—the Terrorists. After the March Revolution, it was joined by many who had never been Socialists. At that time it stood for the abolition of private property in land only, the owners to be compensated in some fashion. Finally the increasing revolutionary feeling of peasants forced the Essaires to abandon the “compensation” clause, and led to the younger and more fiery intellectuals breaking off from the main party in the fall of 1917 and forming a new party, the Left Socialist Revolutionary party. The Essaires, who were afterward always called by the radical groups “Right Socialist Revolutionaries,” adopted the political attitude of the Mensheviki, and worked together with them. They finally came to represent the wealthier peasants, the intellectuals, and the politically uneducated populations of remote rural districts. Among them there was, however, a wider difference of shades of political and economic opinion than among the Mensheviki. Among their leaders mentioned in these pages: Avksentiev, Gotz, Kerensky, Tchernov, “Babuschka” Breshkovskaya.
Adam Nelson
Well, mixed economy, but Capitalist based. Perfect competition, is the best way to keep businesses flourishing.
Landon Cruz
>Peace! >Land! >Bread!
All things that soviet citizens ended up not having
Ryan Rogers
>Hitler was actually a Jew and fighting for Jewish interests >But he totally killed 6,000,000 Jews because he loved them so much
I would ask you why Commies are such retards, but I genuinely don't believe I could dumb myself down to a Commie level where it would actually make sense. Every time I see Commies with that smug look on their face, after someone doesn't understand what it is their trying to stammer out, they always seem to think it's because they're too intelligent for the other person to understand. In truth it's because you're legitimate retards who just constantly use doublespeak so you're disregarded.
Luke Perry
b. Maximalists. An off-shoot of the Socialist Revolutionary party in the Revolution of 1905, when it was a powerful peasant movement, demanding the immediate application of the maximum Socialist programme. Now an insignificant group of peasant anarchists.(1919)
Connor Green
You see the problem is everything in life is not about business and money making, which is the issue with capitalism
Samuel Flores
Sounds like utter garbage, that when put into practice it starves it's population. The communist manifesto should be classified as a WMD, next to "Niggers."
Leo Sullivan
Oh how ironic that poster is
>Peace USSR was the biggest starter of wars
>Bread When there was any, they had to wait in interminable lines for it
>Land Lmfao they confiscated it all
Alexander Green
did he make mistakes? probably was he a genocidal tyrant that did not care for his people in the slightest? no
he was actually very principled. He exited the russo-japanese war to save russian lives. Do you really think he could not have transported the massive amount of troops that Russia had to the east and just stomp over the japs? he totally could have. But he didn't.
Why do you think Russia entered the war with serbia? Do you think Russia had any inherent interest in Austria-Hungary? They did have interests in Germany and Prussia but those developed *after* Germany entered the war. In fact, Nicholas wrote multiple times to Kaiser Willhelm to ask him to stay out of the war. So why did he defend Serbia? Because Serbians like Russians are Orthodox. They also just fought a war against the Ottomans to defend Orthodox from the Turks.
So the reasons why he did what he did are much more respectable and moral than the reasons Stalin or Lenin killed millions of their own people not in war but for blind hatred.
Zachary Evans
Soviet union had all these things before Gorbachev came around
John Gonzalez
oh shit my sides
what is Holodomor
what is Kolhoz
what are wars against Poles, Finns, or Germans
Daniel Lee
No they didn't
Hunter Williams
post memes
Henry Nelson
See my flag? Capitalism is just part of the system, Nazis concentrate more in promoting family values for a reason, but people have to work, no matter the system, so at least it can be a system where people can work on what they are capable of, they like, and make enough profit to sustain their family / keep a small part of what they produced plus a base salary. There are many ways around it that are far better, than communism.
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Caleb Perry
When you have no wall to keep the Muslims out.
Wyatt Reyes
>what exactly is communism according to some random jews a slave ideology for them to rule you. >stateless lmao yeah please go on >talking about the russian revolution and capitalist state in the same sentence Nigger, there wasnt any capitalism in Russia. Commies and capitalists are 2 sides of the same international jewry´s coin. both needed to destroy what Europeans had built over 1000+ years
there is no better ally for capitalist dogs than communist filth; where capitalism destroy the social fabric that binds people together, communism destroy the individual and reduce them to a small wheel in a large machinery they are not in control of.
You can keep throwing all the fake slogans you want around, the result of both these disgusting ideologies we have already seen; their goal was to take the power of money creation from our century old monarchies towards jewish owned banks; the exact situation we are in now. Geez, i wonder why commies and capitalist dogs allied against the Spirit of Europe. Disgusting traitors and jewish slaves. you disgust me beyond belief
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Jack Diaz
This whole thread.
Sebastian Evans
Holodomor is a myth.
Stalin forgot to genocide this guy.
Bentley Harris
>Comparing authoritarian systems to libertarian You are fucking retarded, just like any communist.
Hudson Hill
>implying you know what a full plate of food looks like
Cameron Hill
What would you communists replace the structure we have now with? All new ideas seem to be absorbed by the economic interlinked cyber-system at the speed of light, people are put by google and other corporations in their safe bubbles where they talk with people that are just like them and their ideas stay secluded. Politics is a joke and politicians can't do shit without corporations and if they do it's not because they wanted to do it or it's because it's in the best interest of society, rather to advert complete disaster or get mullah.
If revolution happens what do you guys want to put after it? Describe it.
Ryder Jenkins
I'm a monarchist *and* i believe in God.
I'm a real russian, not a jew like all of you commies. Commies killed my *atheist* grandfather for deciding to work instead of coming to Kirov's funeral.
There is very little you can do to convince me of your faggotry. Sorry buddy
Asher Barnes
Post ww2 soviet union did ok and economically was growing faster then the US, I did not mean pre ww2
>what is bloody Sunday >gets country into war because another country shares its religion >keeps Russia a backward peasant country while everyone else is rapidly industrialized He is the whole reason the commies came to power
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James Morgan
Physical borders aren't necessary, without a state that lures foreigners with welfare and constantly criminalizes racial discrimination and prejudice against said people, the such will effectively deter any foreigner from wanting or /and being able to move into the area.
Easton Hall
Your God is Heruur now.
Christopher Jones
> when communist asked to show food they show paintings because forcing people to draw propaganda was way easier than getting people to plant seeds under communism
Caleb Sanchez
lol it's like he didn't try.
Stolypin made some awesome agricultural reforms that actually helped, and if not for the war and commies Russia would be an agricultural powerhouse.
>post ww2 it was alright If you think waiting in line for sausage for 4 hours just to learn that they are out of stock already is "economic success" then yeah
Also u should start using the commie flag when posting, it fits you well.
Jordan Reed
>With the passing of communism into history as an ideological alternative to democracy it is time to do some accounting of its human costs. >Few would deny any longer that communism--Marxism-Leninism and its variants--meant in practice bloody terrorism, deadly purges, lethal gulags and forced labor, fatal deportations, man-made famines, extrajudicial executions and show trials, and genocide. It is also widely known that as a result millions of innocent people have been murdered in cold blood. Yet there has been virtually no concentrated statistical work on what this total might be. >For about eight years I have been sifting through thousands of sources trying to determine the extent of democide (genocide and mass murder) in this century. As a result of that effort** I am able to give some conservative figures on what is an unrivaled communist hecatomb, and to compare this to overall world totals. >First, however, I should clarify the term democide. It means for governments what murder means for an individual under municipal law. It is the premeditated killing of a person in cold blood, or causing the death of a person through reckless and wanton disregard for their life. Thus, a government incarcerating people in a prison under such deadly conditions that they die in a few years is murder by the state--democide--as would parents letting a child die from malnutrition and exposure be murder. So would government forced labor that kills a person within months or a couple of years be murder.
>mfw when some kind user makes communism generals each day in order to 1) give Sup Forumsacks a rhetorical tool to demonstrate to the normies that Sup Forums is not a NatSoc platform, even though it is, and 2) redpill normies who come here on the retardation that is communism.
Bless you OP. You are doing God's work.
Kayden Lopez
#soon
Jacob Wright
>[Continued] >So would government created famines that then are ignored or knowingly aggravated by government action be murder of those who starve to death. And obviously, extrajudicial executions, death by torture, government massacres, and all genocidal killing be murder. However, judicial executions for crimes that internationally would be considered capital offenses, such as for murder or treason (as long as it is clear that these are not fabricated for the purpose of executing the accused, as in communist show trials), are not democide. Nor is democide the killing of enemy soldiers in combat or of armed rebels, nor of noncombatants as a result of military action against military targets. >With this understanding of democide, Table 1 lists all communist governments that have committed any form of democide and gives their estimated total domestic and foreign democide and its annual rate (the percent of a government's domestic population murdered per year). It also shows the total for communist guerrillas (including quasi-governments, as of the Mao soviets in China prior to the communist victory in 1949) and the world total for all governments and guerillas (including such quasi-governments as of the White Armies during the Russian civil war in 1917-1922). Figure 1 graphs the communist megamurderers and compares this to the communist and world totals.
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Jackson Harris
>[continued] >With this understood, the Soviet Union appears the greatest megamurderer of all, apparently killing near 61,000,000 people. Stalin himself is responsible for almost 43,000,000 of these. Most of the deaths, perhaps around 39,000,000 are due to lethal forced labor in gulag and transit thereto. Communist China up to 1987, but mainly from 1949 through the cultural revolution, which alone may have seen over 1,000,000 murdered, is the second worst megamurderer. Then there are the lesser megamurderers, such as North Korea and Tito's Yugoslavia. >Obviously the population that is available to kill will make a big difference in the total democide, and thus the annual percentage rate of democide is revealing. By far, the most deadly of all communist countries and, indeed, in this century by far, has been Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. Pol Pot and his crew likely killed some 2,000,000 Cambodians from April 1975 through December 1978 out of a population of around 7,000,000. This is an annual rate of over 8 percent of the population murdered, or odds of an average Cambodian surviving Pol Pot's rule of slightly over just over 2 to 1. >In sum the communist probably have murdered something like 110,000,000, or near two-thirds of all those killed by all governments, quasi-governments, and guerrillas from 1900 to 1987. Of course, the world total itself it shocking. It is several times the 38,000,000 battle-dead that have been killed in all this century's international and domestic wars. Yet the probable number of murders by the Soviet Union alone--one communist country-- well surpasses this cost of war. And those murders of communist China almost equal it
Brayden Myers
>[continued] >How can we understand all this killing by communists? It is the marriage of an absolutist ideology with the absolute power. Communists believed that they knew the truth, absolutely. They believed that they knew through Marxism what would bring about the greatest human welfare and happiness. And they believed that power, the dictatorship of the proletariat, must be used to tear down the old feudal or capitalist order and rebuild society and culture to realize this utopia. Nothing must stand in the way of its achievement. Government--the Communist Party--was thus above any law. All institutions, cultural norms, traditions, and sentiments were expendable. And the people were as though lumber and bricks, to be used in building the new world. >Constructing this utopia was seen as though a war on poverty, exploitation, imperialism, and inequality. And for the greater good, as in a real war, people are killed. And thus this war for the communist utopia had its necessary enemy casualties, the clergy, bourgeoisie, capitalists, wreckers, counterrevolutionaries, rightists, tyrants, rich, landlords, and noncombatants that unfortunately got caught in the battle. In a war millions may die, but the cause may be well justified.
Liam Gonzalez
>The irony is that communism in practice, even after decades of total control, did not improve the lot of the average person, but usually made their living conditions worse than before the revolution. It is not by chance that the greatest famines have occurred within the Soviet Union (about 5,000,000 dead during 1921-23 and 7,000,000 from 1932-3) and communist China (about 27,000,000 dead from 1959-61). In total almost 55,000,000 people died in various communist famines and associated diseases, a little over 10,000,000 of them from democidal famine. This is as though the total population of Turkey, Iran, or Thailand had been completely wiped out. And that something like 35,000,000 people fled communist countries as refugees, as though the countries of Argentina or Columbia had been totally emptied of all their people, was an unparalleled vote against the utopian pretensions of Marxism-Leninism. >But communists could not be wrong (sarcasm). After all, their knowledge was scientific, based on historical materialism, an understanding of the dialectical process in nature and human society, and a materialist (and thus realistic) view of nature. Marx has shown empirically where society has been and why, and he and his interpreters proved that it was destined for a communist end.
>1. Socialism is the Big Lie of the twentieth century. While it promised prosperity, equality, and security, it delivered poverty, misery, and tyranny. Equality was achieved only in the sense that everyone was equal in his or her misery. >In the same way that a Ponzi scheme or chain letter initially succeeds but eventually collapses, socialism may show early signs of success. But any accomplishments quickly fade as the fundamental deficiencies of central planning emerge. It is the initial illusion of success that gives government intervention its pernicious, seductive appeal. In the long run, socialism has always proven to be a formula for tyranny and misery. >A pyramid scheme is ultimately unsustainable because it is based on faulty principles. Likewise, collectivism is unsustainable in the long run because it is a flawed theory. Socialism does not work because it is not consistent with fundamental principles of human behavior. The failure of socialism in countries around the world can be traced to one critical defect: it is a system that ignores incentives.
Jace Lewis
How many gorillion pulled out of your ass?
David Green
>In a capitalist economy, incentives are of the utmost importance. Market prices, the profit-and-loss system of accounting, and private property rights provide an efficient, interrelated system of incentives to guide and direct economic behavior. Capitalism is based on the theory that incentives matter! >Under socialism, incentives either play a minimal role or are ignored totally. A centrally planned economy without market prices or profits, where property is owned by the state, is a system without an effective incentive mechanism to direct economic activity. By failing to emphasize incentives, socialism is a theory inconsistent with human nature and is therefore doomed to fail. Socialism is based on the theory that incentives don’t matter! >2. The strength of capitalism can be attributed to an incentive structure based upon the three Ps: (1) prices determined by market forces, (2) a profit-and-loss system of accounting and (3) private property rights. The failure of socialism can be traced to its neglect of these three incentive-enhancing components. >3. By their failure to foster, promote, and nurture the potential of their people through incentive-enhancing institutions, centrally planned economies deprive the human spirit of full development. Socialism fails because it kills and destroys the human spirit–just ask the people leaving Cuba in homemade rafts and boats [and those waiting in long lines today in Venezuela struggling, and often failing, to buy food].
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Matthew Walker
It is like he didn't try because he didn't. Stalin's industrialization actually turned Russia into a super power, and food lines were only prevalent during the stagnation that Gorbachev caused due to reforms, you hate commies but you should hate the tsar for creating a need for revolution in the first place. The only Russians he cared about was the wealthy elite
Gabriel Lewis
>4. The temptress of socialism is constantly luring us with the offer: “give up a little of your freedom and I will give you a little more security.” As the experience of this century has demonstrated, the bargain is tempting but never pays off. We end up losing both our freedom and our security. >Socialism will remain a constant temptation. We must be vigilant in our fight against socialism not only around the globe but also here in the United States. >The failure of socialism inspired a worldwide renaissance of freedom and liberty. For the first time in the history of the world, the day is coming very soon when a majority of the people in the world will live in free societies or societies rapidly moving toward freedom.
Henry Cruz
That's capitalism you are thinking of.
Blake Lopez
Can communist ideologists here answer instead of meme posting mountains of pictures?
Ian Richardson
Gommie.com/benis gets me everytime I swear
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Landon Wilson
The most damning critique of Marxism thus far has come from V. K. Dmitriev (1898) and Ladislaus von Bortkiewicz (1906): >Marx's value theory and law of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall are internally inconsistent. In other words, Marx drew conclusions that actually do not follow from his theoretical premises. Once those errors are corrected, Marx's conclusion that aggregate price and profit are determined by, and equal to, aggregate value and surplus value no longer holds true. This result calls into question his theory that the exploitation of workers is the sole source of profit. >Andrew Kliman argues that, since internally inconsistent theories cannot possibly be right, this undermines Marx's critique of political economy and current-day research based upon it, as well as the correction of Marx's alleged inconsistencies.
Basically Marx tried to argue in "Manifesto" and "Kapital" that 2+2=7 (7 being the uptopia where a) workers were no longer exploited and b) profits would grow), however when you correct his mathematical mistakes to where 2+2=4 then not only would workers be exploited MORE, but it would be the ONLY source of profit since things like speculation, stock market, investment, capital gains, etc. (which exist in Capitalism) would no longer exist as a means of profit in a communist economic model. It literally would and always has exploited the worker more than Capitalism ever has. The mechanisms of Capitalism have corrected the exploitation of workers far more smoothly than any communist country ever has. >Don't believe me? Read Sedlácek's breakdown of Marxism and it's role in improving Capitalism rather than hurting it.
