How come spaniards are so afraid of catalan independence?

how come spaniards are so afraid of catalan independence?

Other urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_Switzerland#Secession_from_European_Union_states_to_Switzerland
youtube.com/watch?v=lFkrEN3Fpis
bild.de/politik/inland/bundesland/umfrage-bundeslaender-wollen-raus-aus-deutschland-52565436.bild.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francoist_Spain
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Adenauer
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Germany
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_German_general_election,_1990
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law_for_the_Federal_Republic_of_Germany
hooktube.com/watch?v=RGrVuDGOt1M
twitter.com/AnonBabble

#freeTexas

How would you like your backyard permanently taken for public use?

texans share the same ancestry as americans

catalonians are literally a different ethnic group than spaniards with their own language and customs

nice try bong

Because they have other regions who also want independence. A Catalan independence could trigger other separatist regions to also start the proces to independence. Same reason the EU is keeping it's mouth shut so far. Europa is full of separatist regions.

Why are you so affraid of Texan independence?

>texans share the same ancestry as americans

>americans have a common ancestry

Really makes me think, retard.

Because they fear independence anywhere in life. Spain king is cucking them with niggers and Catalonia has a lot of money they want.
When you are a monarchy in EU there's really something wrong with you.

How are they any different from Spaniards any more than having a borderline dead language?

Different ethnic group?

American education at its best.

Sad, goy, very sad.

Does the Spanish Royal family have any actual power?

most of Spanish Muslims are living in Catalonia...

CATALARPERS

>let me tell you about your country

most americans have germanic and anglo ancestry, retarded bong

NATO goes like this: Merkel and Spanish king are military high commanders when somebody attacks them, but they can't say who they going to attack, that's NATO call, they also are in EU, therefore EU dictates who goes in, but i guess they could say terms under which you get citizenship. Germany and Spain don't want to sharpen citizenship laws.

The power of leeching. Less people in the realm means less taxmoney.

Fucking welfare kings and queens

But Texas has unique culture and they speak Spanish.

People mustn't be able to govern over themselves or the whole jewish trick of (((unions))) fails. Which is why you won't see EU support for an illegal seperatist movement ever. Scotland was legal.

Because Spanish government put them there and historic reasons, like Spanish government decides how to slice up tax.

...

oh look more spaniards shilling for muh commie catalonia

how come such a multiculti commie shithole is literally a quarter of your gdp

The power of pissing of the people yeah.

>implying Franco wasn't a British agent that try to mix every race/culture together
It was Franco who wanted globalism. He reduced military and fooled Hitler by not helping him, since he made a deal with England for money. Franco didn't care about your racial purity.

Spaniards really hate the fact that there are people questioning the communist, authoriatrian (((federal state))).

Heil'd
The commie boogeyman meme is strong, it's kinda stupid however. Catalonia is more than just Barcelona.

The U.S. needs to do the same thing and fragment along similar lines tbqh.

Germany too

So Communist Catalonia wants to break free from Communist Spanish government? You really thought this through, didn't you?

I hope the Catalonians get their independence. All other spaniards are basically nigger tier.

1. I think it will be bad for Catalunya and Spain.
2. Your grievances are basically jus muh feelings. I don't condone being fucked over those.

Spaniards are muslim inbreds, Catalonians are pure

See you fool. It's not a meme.
>how come such a multiculti commie shithole is literally a quarter of your gdp
Do you want to know how much of your GDP California is? Tl;dr: Spain spent decades industrializing Catalonia (because of strategic zone, next to France and sea access) and Basque Country and not the rest of the country.

If you idiots check the image you'll see it's the LE CASTILLIAN FILLED ZONES which contribute to the higher GDP zones of Catalonia.

>muh commie catalonia meme
If you think Spain is a conservative nation you fell for the jewish propaganda. The EU is a communist super state and Spain gladly is part of it.

>Franco
>Falangist
Are you retarded?

>40 million niggers
>more than actual african countries
>most americans have germanic and anglo ancestry

Keep licking the jewish boot, kike-enabler. The EU must fall and every secession is a step to a free Europe made up of many microstates.

EU is not Communist, it's literally the most anti-Communist. EU is free trade, capitalism modeled after USA, the country that occupied West Germany who started EU. If you had any historic knowledge whatsoever you would know this, even if you had any knowledge of laws you would know that, but you know nothing, dumbass.

BW only 19%?

>Another online poll by the South German Südkurier newspaper found that almost 70% of respondents replied "yes, the Swiss are closer to us in outlook" to a question whether the state of Baden-Württemberg should join Switzerland. The paper noted that seldom had a topic generated so much activity by its readership

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_Switzerland#Secession_from_European_Union_states_to_Switzerland

Not an argument, fuck off kike.

If you ever needed confirmation Spain are the ones to support, the fucking Scotcucks are supporting Cuckalonia

youtube.com/watch?v=lFkrEN3Fpis

>NRW
>14%
They want to join their homecountry turkey instead?

They're afraid of the Catalan warrior.

Catalans and Basques are the only producers in Spain. When they separate the rest of Spain will be like Yemen.

They have no money

If Catalonia leaves, they are utterly fucked.

Funny how Spain NEEDS Catalonia more than they need Spain. Yet, you moron hicks and dumb slavs here on Sup Forums just think its about communism, leftism, or fucking immigrants.

Why does the media even come here is a mystery to me.

#freeUSAfromCOMMIEFORNIA

You statists are truly disgusting creatures.

(OP)
We in our vast majority are fucking kiked.
BBC doesn't help either

Interesting. The numbers in the map are from bild.de/politik/inland/bundesland/umfrage-bundeslaender-wollen-raus-aus-deutschland-52565436.bild.html (I know, BILD sucks cock but they paid for
>How are they any different from Spaniards any more than having a borderline dead language?
the poll)
>EU anti-communist
bluepilled faggot

because they'll bring in millions of refugees

Spain isnt a conservative nation, but it isnt nearly as liberal as Cuckalonia.

I can't wait for the international brigades to flood in and fight fascism.

>think its about communism, leftism, or fucking immigrants.
i dont give a fuck what it is about i just want happening

>catalonians are a different ethnic group
The stupidest shit i have read this thread.

mind to answer this then?

Same can be said for colombia without Peru and Bolivica

communists hate independence, even against other communists

If they won't bring em in, the EU will find another way to get them in.


Might as well go to sleep then because nothing is going to happen in Spain at 20:16PM anymore. They're either sleeping or having a late siesta.

>free trade agreements are anti-communist
kek
Schengen was the death of the nation state. The union must be killed.

You have been visited by the Cagner of Catalonian independence. Referendum votes will come to you without violence but only if you reply "poop little Cagner poop!"

This. We've never said Spain is conservative or something, but it's WAY LESS liberal than Catalonia. Spain is the lesser evil.

daily reminder that schleswig is Danish clay

>borderline dead
Nigger are you serious?

>american education

so god damn stupid

I'd take left wing nationalist white catalunyans over centrist globalist cuck spainyard mongrels any day

Catalonia makes a large chunk of the GDP of Spain. The rest of Spain is dependent on the tax dollars of Catalonia.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco
>At the end of World War II, Spain's fascist dealings made it an international pariah and the country was kept out of the United Nations, the Marshall Plan and NATO. In the 1950s
>General Franco was a loyal friend and ally of the United States." American military facilities in Spain built during this era included Naval Station Rota, Morón Air Base, and Torrejón Air Base.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francoist_Spain
>During the Second World War, its entry into the war on the Axis side was prevented largely, as was much later revealed, by British Secret Intelligence Service (MI-6) efforts that included up to $200 million in bribes for Spanish officials to keep the regime from getting involved.
>During the first year of peace, Franco dramatically reduced the size of the Spanish Army; from almost one million at the end of the civil war to 250,000 in early 1940, with most soldiers two-year conscripts.
>Franco also used language politics in an attempt to establish national homogeneity. Despite Franco himself being Galician, the government revoked the official statute and recognition for the Basque, Galician, and Catalan

Franco wasn't Hitler boy, even when Hitler wanted him to be.
Franco was pro-UN, pro-NATO, anti-own military, private army, pro-Anglo capital, pro-melting pot
Hitler was anti-UN, anti-NATO, pro-own military, national army, anti-Anglo capital, anti-melting pot

Franco didn't invole into WW2, because got paid by England, so Hitler would loose. Franco wasn't Communist or Nazi, he was capitalist in fascist cosplaying clothing.

Same ancestry as Mallorca, Castellón and parts of Aragón.

They're not a different ethnic group and in terms of culture and customs they have the same level of differences between any other regions in Spain.

Now, if you argued that knowing this we should change the morphology of the country I would agree that this is a long pending talk we need to have. But just taking such a big piece of land with them and going rogue is not a good solution.

>catalonians are pure
>after centuries of being mixed with the rest of spain since it was the best place to go

Yes it's borderline dead.
For what I've heard from people from Catalan, it's only older and middle age generations who want independence and Catalan is mostly spoken in home while Spanish is used in every relevant issue.

>Catalonians
>White
They're the region with the highest amount of non-European foreigners. Also, Andalusians from the south are closer to Basques (pure Iberians) than Catalonians, and Catalonians, Basques and Andalusians are equally distant to Africans. So fuck off with your divide and conquer shit Ahmed.

I'm aware of all this and the British involvement, however, Franco was NOT a Falangist as I said, he let Primo de Rivera die and etc. I thought you were talking about Franco being a Falangist because the image you were answering to only refers to Falangism, and not to Franco.

You do realize Catalonia also gets the biggest chunk of public fonds right?

Nope.
Spanish Constitution says that it doesn't have effect on Spanish unity, not that is illegal.
It cannot be illegal since it's held with Catalunya according the law of Catalunya, but according Spanish Constitution it cannot affect Spanish unity.
V-E-R-Y different.

The only illegal action is the repression commanded by Rajoy, he's truly incompetent and he should be removed.

this is a hastily slapped together image with no rhyme or reason, and half of it is in fucking spanish. secondly, since you share the same flags, yet catalans are a minority, its hard to get a balanced argument, its mainly just heavy spaniard shilling

i mean, i know this is Sup Forums, but come on, not all of us are retarded enough to glance at a biased image macro and instantly be anti-catalan, especially when spain outed itself as being authoritarian as fuck today

>prussia

kek as if there is even 1 german living there

I wasn't talking about legality though. Although if Spain is composed of several regions and one wants to secede how does that doesn't affect to the unity of Spain? It's literally meant to divide a piece of land from the rest of the country.

Catalonia is a net recipient of federal aid and has a GDP per capita in parity with Basque. They also have exceptionally junk status dept.

They are not some economic savant. They are the Spanish equivilant to California, build on unsustainable memetech wigit industries.

merkel cant grant citizenship, she can command the army and propose laws on her own, and hire ministers, but it doesnt go much further
the president is a bit like a king, althouh he can only require a law to be send to the constitutional court before signing it (which rarely happens), give armistice and represent the state

West Germany had Christian Democrats(CDU) ever since Hitler was defeated and West Germany occupied by USA:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Adenauer
>German statesman who served as the first post-war Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany) from 1949 to 1963.
>He was the first leader of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), a Christian Democratic party
Who banned Communist party:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Germany
>a minor party in West Germany in the postwar period until it was banned in 1956

East Germany ended when they also elected Christian Democrats(CDU) in 1990
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_German_general_election,_1990
After that East Germany joined with West Germany, where both were run by CDU and they joined into Germany, where East German law was deleted and replaced by West German law from 1949:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law_for_the_Federal_Republic_of_Germany
>The Basic Law was approved on 8 May 1949 in Bonn, and, with the signature of the western Allies of World War II on 12 May
>During reunification, the two states discussed the possibility of drafting a new common constitution followed by a plebiscite, as envisioned in Art. 146 (1990), but this path was ultimately not taken.

So no, there are no Communist laws, they are all Christian capitalistic free trade laws.

Fuck separatists

this

>catalonians
>flooded by inmigrants
>white
The fuck dude. I live here and niggers are common as heck, even in small villages

There's translations in the image you autist. And it's Catalonian, not Spanish.
>biased image macro
Catalonians are objectively communists.
Watch this, just watch, you don't need to understand what they say to understand what it is about, it's an independentist ad
hooktube.com/watch?v=RGrVuDGOt1M

>Says with a straight face
>not being retarded

Thanks for the explanation.
Are people tempted to let them go just to watch them collapse?

so dump the f*ckers.

It's spoken by over 80 percent of the Catalan population you retard

>catalunyans
>white

its probably all fellow rhinish dudes that cant stand the berlin imerialism and want the good ol captial back
if you were from here you know how much people hate the east germany shithole, sucking all of our money and power to reestablish the preußisch colonial regieme

Which is less than half of the populace in the Province itself you nut wit

Because of all the catholic heritage sites they'll destroy if they take Catalan.

Scared of that Big Catalan Cock

> East-G, Bayern and BW separate from Bundesrepublik
> heavily push for Catholic culture to area
would be a paradise, the best Germany

The EU may consider the Catalans to be seceding from them.
That's why the media spins this so negatively.

I for one would love to see this happen because fuck the EU.

And they are not even different from rest of the Spaniards

Also
>Wessex
>Mercia

The fuck? Do people still identify with 1000 year old countries?

Hey nig-brain. America is gigantic, niggers make up less than 14% of America pop. Way, way more whites, armed and rightwing, then fucking niggers.

thats one of the most quality post i have ever seen on Sup Forums

I can't wait for it to have the same ending.

fuck off back to your socialist shit hole, before Sup Forums gets banned by your government for being anti islam.

It sure went well for you last time

Spain is saving Catalonia from itself.

If it gets independence, they will flood Barcelona with Africans and Muslims. In three decades the Catalan identity they used to justify independence won't even exist anymore.