Why does Catalonia want independence? Why are muzzies always doing stupid shit like this?

Why does Catalonia want independence? Why are muzzies always doing stupid shit like this?

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Hey guys I just got back from the polling station here in Catalonia and it doesn't look good for No...

Everyone in line was wearing Si hats and Si t-shirts and I even witnessed two No voters standing in line trash talk two Si voters within the span about 5 minutes. Luckily a gang of about 10 of us overheard it so we beat the shit out of them before they could vote and they high tailed it out of there.

We have assigned a couple of big guys to stand around and make sure they don't come back but overall everything looks good for Si

Weak larp

Can someone genuinely give me a run down of this Spain situation? The news, Sup Forums and reddit are complete 50/50 shilling threads

preliminary results

OVERWHELMINGLY "yes"

>Catalonians want independence
>Spaniards want to keep the making money for them

plenty of beatings handed out by Spanish police, inlcuding elderly and handicap

Told you

best photos of the event are the Catalonian firefighters protecting the people. Spanish police beating firefighters.

Twitter is overwhelmingly in support of Catalonia. A lot of people getting redpilled about the (((EU))) today.

a bit of backstory. Merkel clearly anti-secession.

This is such a weird referendum. If you're against the independence you won't go out to vote anyway cause the government you support has called the referendum illegal.

Spanish police beating a man in a wheelchair

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I feel like there has to be more context to that article he just quoted
otherwise putting down a riot would trigger that article

jewish tweets are generally anti-secession and they stick out like a sore thumb

Soros founded shit desu.

voltairenet.org/article198106.html

>Suspension of any Member State that uses military force on its own population

ok so NOW they are spanish population? get your shit together.

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"Spain" is an artificial construction of a state, Catalonia is an ancient land whose roots go back to the time of the ancient Greeks. One might just as well call Sicily and Italy "rightful Catalonian territory" on the basis that they were part of the Catalan Empire once, as to say that Catalonia "belongs to Spain."

youtube.com/watch?v=JzPT72kv-vE

FAKE NEWS.
First, this was YEARS ago.
Second, he is beating people hiding behind the wheelchair.

That's Aragon, not Catalonia you retard.

That's Aragon, eternal anglo

> hello fellow polyps muh false (((EU))) """facists""" vs based (((communist))) """people""" dilemma

Help me understand . Catalans are communists, right?

Really confused if I should be in a favor of the secession or not..

>Catalan empire
>Catalonia is an ancient land

Yes, we need to respect the opinions of the neo-nazi stooges and shitheads. Fuck you.

If people want self determination and have historical claim to the land they live in, I say let them have it. If the Sami people wanted to segregate and create their own state in northern scandinavia, that would be fine by me.

good thing I played some EUIV to know that's aragon

good point

that is correct.
they are the most pro-refugee area in Spain.

huge flags is a key for march/protest without a lot of pple.

Skinheads were a mistake.

ok then fuck the catalonians because they are communist so they don't get their own land
do you see now why this is a bad idea?

this one is being pushed hard. I'm assuming it's been faked, otherwise why would he have taken pictures of him performing vote fraud??? really makes me think

>Spanish
>Nazis
You cucked faggots will call anyone a nazi now lol

Why does it matter if they are communists? Is not the point of self determination that they may decide their own form of government?

>twitter supports catalonia
>this means we should support catalonia

more polling results overwhelmingly favoring SI

He is just proving the whole votation is fraud. Also, a journalist from Madrid has proved he voted. The vote has no guarantees.

Shame the meme referendum means fuck all

thanks for your paid input shill, here's your (you)

MSM is now finally covering the referendum, surprisingly mostly condemning the actions of Spanish government

Communists don't get rights

Spain's so fucked, 92% vote for independence. Waiting for turnout numbers.

Have the Catacucks announced the voter turnout for their meme referendum yet?

more MSM

Fucking Euro-spics better fucking deliver!!!
Were over due for a major happening!!!

score? just want to see it for my self

Spanish """"""leadership"""""" denying reality

The Guardian supporting leftist-led coups - is this supposed to be surprising to anyone? Have you ever bothered to read The Guardian?

this i think?
lavanguardia.com/referendum/index.html

Everyone knows "SI" is going to win overwhelmingly. The opposition hasn't voted because there are no guarantees. See

Those are some North Korea numbers

Bravo Cats

So they can be refugees and get gibs

There's a lot of reports of people voting two or more times. The voting polls has no way of knowing if you voted in another voting poll before.
The referendum and the voting itself is seen as ilegal, the fraud is the least of their problems

CNN supporting leftist-led coups - is this supposed to be surprising to anyone? Have you ever watched CNN before, you normie faggot?

>Kings descended from Catalan monarchs and spoke in Catalan
>Some kings like James the Conqueror even wrote autobiographical books entirely in Catalan
>majority of the population was Catalan
>economy was driven by Catalonia and catalan regions
>merchant fleet and navy was Catalan
>recolonizations of conquered lands done by Catalans
>even foreign nations called people of the Crown of Aragon "Catalans"
>most famous Almogavar mercenary company, used to succesfully defeat the Seljuk Turks by the Byzantine Empire was called the "Catalan Company", only to be betrayed later by those same Byzantines thus causing the so called "Catalan Revenge", which eventually conquered parts of Greece to the fucking Byzantine Empire (like Athens and Neopatria) and gave them to the Crown.

The Crown of Aragon was a multinational empire driven by Catalan might and superior economic foresight. Aragon only decayed after being integrated into "Spain" when they united with Castile.

Communism and Islam is a match made in heaven

results from another district. You can thank the Spanish police response for these landslides.

fuck off jordi

Why is that a problem? Fucking hypocrites in this thread.

>meaningless landslides.
ftfy

Eu and neolib bankers are against the referendum. Why are we not supporting it?

The EU is definitely for it just like they were for Scotxit

>Why are we not supporting it?
Because they have a leftist government and Sup Forums is full of idiots that don't understand the dynamics of global politics.

EU made statements supporting the Spanish government before the election.

No, retard the EU wants to break up the nation states, (just like the communists do) of course they support Catalonia Independence

>Police= Military force

Do these people ever think ?

Can't wait for one of the my least favourite people in the world to lose their most industrious and hard-working region.

Stop walking slowly in our streets.

>meaningless
>huge police response
pick one faggot

An amusing perversity of language. "In the 12th century, Ramon Berenguer III gained the Crown of Provence and his son Ramon Berenguer IV became Prince of Aragón. The House of Barcelona became Kings of Aragón in the next generation under Alfons I and, from the 11th to 15th century, a total of thirteen Catalan Count-Kings presided over the largest empire in the Mediterranean from Plaça de Sant Jaume."

barcelonas.com/roman-and-gothic-barcelona.html

Around 3,000 years ago, in 1000 BC, the land mass now known as the Iberian peninsula was occupied by various peoples including Celts, Phoenicians, Vascons, Tartessians and Iberians. None of them were aware they belonged to a country called Spain. In fact, the term Iberia was first used by the Ancient Greeks, who arrived on the northern coast of what is now Catalonia in around 600 BC and founded Emporion, modern Empúries.

The Greeks didn't come to conquer the surrounding territory but rather founded Emporion, which translates as market, as a trading station with the locals. Having named the main river in the region the Iber, which is the modern River Ebro, they used the name Ibers or Iberians to refer to the people who inhabited the area between the Pyrenees and the river. Consequently, it is reasonable to claim that the original Iberians were actually very early Catalans.

The Greeks used Emporion as a trading base for the next four centuries and it is the Greek influence that lays the foundation for the commercial culture that the Catalans were to develop in later periods. This is obviously also due the territory's location in an accessible corner of the Mediterranean. For this reason, Greek along with the local Iberian languages forms part of the substrata of the language that was to develop into the Catalan language in the early middle ages.

barcelonas.com/nationalist-view-of-spanish-history.html

"The EU"

Which part? There are a dozen different branches of it. it's a giant multi national globalist bureaucracy that by it's very nature hates the concept of a Nation state and state sovereignty.

meaningless in terms of legitimacy or legality, you subhuman leaf. You'll wake up tomorrow and Cuckalonia will still be a part of Spain, no matter what the results. And you'll do the world a favour and neck yourself.

You are a fucking moron and you know it. EU is against anyone getting independence. The whole point of the EU is to merge countries not break them apart. If Catalonia get independence, they would be outside the EU, and Spain would veto against their membership.

>tomorrow.

Plenty of time in the future for los lazyos to lose Catalonia.

Why don't Spaniards wake up before 3pm on a Sunday to vote? No need for the riot police.

Maybe you should do your own research instead of making assumptions based on your flawed understanding of European relations?

Wise North Oil-kun.

The EU doesn't want Catalonia to be independent.

Here is a tl;dr on situation:

Catalan and Basque regions (the most northern ones) har the hardest working and generating most tax money

The lazy Spanish people use all the northerners tax Money on retarded shit

Basque and Catalans want to rule themselves and leave Spain

Spain spergs out dropping spaghetti everywhere

Islam is the final stage of history after Communism.

t. Sayyid Qutb

Why don't the Spanish RIOT police have basic crowd control tools like pepper spray/ tear gas?
Fucking amateur hour

A further tl;dr is this:

Northern (and also whiter) regions make money, Castilians want that money so they can siesta all day.

this guy gets it

either Sup Forums is stupider than I thought or Catalonia threads are attracting historic levels of shills.

Why are they commie tho?

Frustrated Spaniards on their mother's PCs spamming le Francoist Catholic Spain will conquer Jerusalem memes.

meh, they can be whatever they want as long as they have self rule that's all that really matters for a people desu

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Merging populations into fungible corporate products is easier when there is no strong state to oppose you. The EU wants to destroy the nation state and make every citizen on the continent prostrate before the financial and banking corporations. It will be financial rape on a scale unheard of and ironically it will mostly be thanks to communist scum like you

There is a militarised arm to most police forces you dunce. In this case they didn't use the riot police simply for peacekeeping, they actively attacked citizens.

Take your communist propaganda somewhere else, EU shill

>also whiter
irish posters are leaf-tier

So why isn't there an independent Quebec? Don't they deserve self rule?

Are you agreeing with or disagreeing with him? Norway-bro was arguing that the EU does not support countries having their sovereignty.

Dont forget ISIS deserves self rule too!

Absolutely disgusting. Fascism is on the rise, hopefully Catalonia wins and maybe there will be hope for secession movements across Europe.

>Spain considers this vote as fake or not counting
>they could just ignore it like they say they will
>nope
>send in police to literally beat the shit out of voters and make Catalans want Independence even more
Why are Castillians so stupid?

>EU want to destroy nation states by supporting nationalism
Being this stupid.

Someone give me a rundown on what the hell is going on here?

>ISIS recruitment map crops out UK.

>posting Berber nationalists, rather than the Islamist Muslims that infest UK/Castilian Spain whether the hell you come from.

EU supported Scot Independence you are retarded

Why am I bothering to talk to a leaf you're problem a Quebecoise too

socialists fighting communists

>send in police to literally beat the shit out of voters
that was a minority of voters who tried to enter premises they were told they couldn't. don't be such a fruitcake, but I do agree they wouldve looked better to just let the catacucks have their meaningless meme tier illegal referendum without shutting down any polling stations

I don't know much about this one, who are the muzzy/commie/shitskins here so I know who to root for.