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America could learn some things from Australia
Aaron Miller
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Easton Perry
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Brayden Long
>650,000 weapons bought back
>cost hundreds of millions
There's more than hundreds of millions of firearms in civilian hands in the US.
How much will the buy back be?
Camden Fisher
$100 billion easy. Won't fucking happen.
Zachary Butler
Mass US buyback would never happen. Not for guns, ammo, nothing.
Hunter Walker
What is it called when you are incapable of learning and applying what you've learned?
Brody Bell
>going against the will of the people is good
>big brother should rule us and tell us whats right or wrong
The absolute state of australicucks
Dominic Morales
They can buy my used cat litter.
I'll die before I hand over muh funs.
Easton Gonzalez
Imagine living in a country so cucked that it gave up the right to bear arms because one madman shot up a dock. Pathetic.
Noah Mitchell
Doesn't change the fact that 56% of our murders are with firearms, homemade and legit.
Our body counts just don't spike as much as America's do.
Elijah Mitchell
>be australian
>get bit
>die
Carson Lee
Australians can't even own fucking airsoft guns
Lmao not even my country is this kekked
Adrian Thomas
We've had several mass shootings since the buy back. Just not that big.
New Zealand kept there guns and haven't had a single mass shooting.
Noah Davis
They also seem to forget the mass increase in home burglaries because as it turns out, its easier to rob a house when you know you won't get shot by some rando family member when you enter.
Parker Martin
go marry a fucking animal and get charged with hate speech for not using the correct pronoun you stupid faggot. But yes, it is sad about our gun situation.
Nicholas Clark
>just do what your intellectual superiors tell you to do America, gahhhhh
What happens to people that makes them into such bootlickers?
Brandon Morales
Your country unfortunately seems to be going the same path as ours though. I wouldnt be surprised if Australia was as cucked as us in the future
Charles Collins
>you cant stop ((((progress))))
oh and vote YES
Jayden Murphy
I've always wondered how that man obtained the gun. Please explain to me, it couldn't possibly be a mystery all these years later right?
Jacob Richardson
just look at the buy back they did in chicago. people were turing in worthless trash guns and using the money tog o buy new nice guns. There was a picture of a pipe taped to a piece of wood someone turned in for lik $200. the Us government is totally inept at anything except blowing money.
Adrian Wright
Doesn't australia have pretty bad gangland shootings though? And not that infrequently, either?
Nathaniel Ross
FUCK you, and FUCK Australia.
Nolan Mitchell
>really activates my almonds
Cooper Edwards
Never give up your guns you seppos
>tfw no guns
Jaxson Reyes
>really stimulates my senses
Michael Thompson
>Last mass shooting was in 1996
>What is 2014 Sydney hostage crisis
Really activates my emus
Easton Parker
>America could learn some things from Australia
Logan Phillips
When was the one before 1996? It's also a lot easier when you're just a giant fucking island without Mexico to your south.
Cooper Bennett
You can still get guns in Australia according to theage.com.au
...and they're an island continent.
It wouldn't be hard for Americans, especially criminals, to get illegal guns from mexico.
Ryan Hughes
now compare that to the amount of negroes
Nathan Wilson
>really joggs my noggin
Ethan Russell
Yes they could learn some things, like how engineered mass death events are used to curtail rights
>port arthur was one kid
Firing headshots with each bullet even at times from a moving vehicle.
Liam Diaz
Mfw police snipers are equipped with pepper ball guns now.
Dylan Gomez
Fuck off cunt. Keep your guns.
Christian Phillips
Wasn't mass and only 2 people died and that's because of the cops killed them. Anyways guns are good and I want them, also you can get guns just not as easily here.
Caleb Anderson
Haha holy fuck "the elected representatives did it knowing they were not representing those who elected them."
Nicholas Myers
>I wouldnt be surprised if Australia was as cucked as us in the future
How high are you? Theres no way that'd ever happen.
Alexander Mitchell
>It wouldn't be hard for Americans, especially criminals, to get illegal guns from mexico.
Where do you think the Mexicans get their guns?
Joseph Cruz
I wanna fuck you
Henry Thompson
They already are you dumb faggot
Anthony Kelly
That graph is wrong.
It says firearm violence is falling and shows a lowering in firearm deaths as proof. Not a lowering in firearm attacks.
Improved emergency medical care has done more to lower the murder rate than any law or regulation that restricted people's rights.
Ryder Moore
you read my mind
Blake King
You fags keep talking about how muh guns will stop the govt fucking you yet you let PATRIOT through, let homofag marriage through despite every state voting no, let tranny bullshit become mainstream, let shillary and co murder with impunity and contiue to let soros live.
Muh bear arms is fucking meaningless if you dont do anything with it. Your weapons are glorified paperweights for all intents and purposes.
Justin Walker
>They don't manufacture guns outside of America
>if you ban guns all guns dissapear
Liam Ross
>Wasn't mass and only 2 people died and that's because of the cops killed them. Anyways guns are good and I want them, also you can get guns just not as easily here.
Define a mass shooting then.
Jason Baker
>mass shooting
>mass
Does America even know the definition of "en mass"
Caleb Gutierrez
no guns sure helped in london
Jeremiah Morris
>I don't understand the voting process: The Post
Cooper Robinson
Howard did that solely to win the next election. The idea that it was an unpopular decision and politicians "sacrificed" themselves is ludicrous.
Daniel Walker
I ask OP when doe it end?
Restrict/control the 2nd Amendent will lead to suddenly getting rid of the 2nd Amendment.
Then it all comes falling down. You rights given to you by the 1st Amendment will be controlled and taken away. Before you know the Bill of Rights is taken apart.
Again OP where does it end?
Use your head. 2nd Amendment is the guardian that guards your house and everything you hold dear in your life. If that is gone...you are truly alone.
Don't be like the rest of the world OP, America. You are free.
Coming from a Bong. Stay free you Yanks.
Andrew Bailey
En mass meas as a whole.
Mass shooting means 2 or more people shot.
Kevin Russell
No, you're bad at reading. It says FATAL firearm violence is falling, nice try faggot. Emergency medical care did not radically transform it's gunshot healing process over the past 30 years, stop looking for bullshit excuses.
Dominic James
No guns and they have to pay a fine for running on the beach. No thanks, they are pacified.
Connor Carter
>what is population
>what is millions of niggers, spics and mentally ill
>what is hundreds of millions of firearms
Lincoln Cook
>every state votes no to homofags getting married
>nah fuck you guys homofags can get married
???
Colton Ramirez
Gun Control hasn't worked in Australia though.
thenewdaily.com.au
>• NSW: in 2014-15, there were 3463 firearms charges, up 83 per cent on 2005-06
>• Victoria: in 2014-15, there were 3645 firearms-related charges, up 85 per cent on 2005-06
>• SA: in 2014, charges for possession and trafficking of guns are up 49 per cent on 2010-11
>• Tasmania: in 2014, charges for unlawful gun possession were up 32 per cent on 2005-06
Noah Thomas
>be American criminal
>need to buy a gun (semiauto)
>go to Walmart and get one for couple of hundred.
Now
>be Australian criminal
>want to buy a gun (semiauto)
>have to spend thousands and thousands at the black market
>don't have the money
>can't apply for gun license because I'm a criminal
It's that easy.
And you can't steal any either because of things like safes and lack of people with other, legal guns
Adam Evans
Also tell me more about the election of soros. I'm very interested in the process by which he was voted the power to directly meddle in the affairs of your country despite being a foreign national
Liam Wood
>I get BTFO in threads and just repeat myself: the post
Carson Perry
>not realizing there are atleast 300million guns in the united states alone
>316 million citizens
>thinking you can compare the united states gun dilemma to britbongistan or Emulsia
>Not realizing our gun violence is literally beneath most europeans countries if we fix the black problem
Chase Jenkins
Emergency care improvement has drastically raised the survival of gunshot victims.
Better medical care means less people die from injuries so less people are recorded as dying. The graph says firearm homicide rates, but then add the 'comment' that fatal firearm violence is falling. However when you look at shootings that number has been dropping far slower than the deaths.
Take a look at accidental firearm deaths over the same period of time. Shootings have been static deaths have been dropping.
Jaxon Cooper
Yeah, about Australia...
Justin Bailey
Nope, that's called a double homicide.
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Sebastian Perez
Now imagine if all those people at concert had a gun. None of this wouldn't have happened, check mate atheists :D
Jaxon Adams
factually no correlation between gun ownership and homicide rate. I'd show statistics but i'm kinda sleepy so let's all hit the hay and have a good nap.
Wyatt Martin
>>be American criminal
>>need to buy a gun (semiauto)
>>go to Walmart and get one for couple of hundred.
VS........
>>be Australian criminal
>>want to buy a gun (semiauto)
>>have to spend thousands and thousands at the black market
>>rob countless people to get money for gun
>>laugh at the idea of a gun license because I'm a criminal
That's so much better.
>And you can't steal any either because of things like safes and lack of people with other, legal guns
I bet you dumb fucks actually believe that shit.
Ayden Robinson
Australians are worthless, lazy Beach People.
Absolute scum.
Brandon Gonzalez
God bless you and god bless the United States of America
Easton Brown
>calling us lazy
The irony
Adrian Price
The black market sells for less than the retail market for durable goods.
It's cheaper to illegally buy a pistol than it is to legally buy a similar or exactly the same model pistol in every large US city.
If you can smuggle drugs with their chemical identifiers and distinctive spectral pasterns you can smuggle firearms made out of steel inside steel vehicles, vessels or containers.
Grayson Barnes
(checked)
The solid correlation with homicide is race. Giving niggers firearms was a mistake.
James Jones
Government estimates put something like 30-70% of firearms unaccounted for after the buy backs/amnesty. Our crime rate also stayed the same and our rate of massacres stayed the same, people just started burning and stabbing children instead.
Asher Cooper
No you shouldn't
hold on to your freedom and never let the fucking politicians take it from you
SHALL NOT BE FUCKING INFRINGED
Jeremiah Murphy
>cheaper to illegally buy a pistol than it is to legally buy a similar or exactly the same model pistol
That's not how it works, dude.
You're not taking into account the "finders fees" and risk associated with illegal firearms, which raises the price.
Hunter Sullivan
How many fucking times do we have to explain this to you imbecile yanks?
The buyback was just a knee jerk reaction to the Port Arther Incident because the federal government had to make it look like they were being proactive.
Restricting guns to law abiding citizens just makes crime worse because guess who then has easy access to guns? Oh that's right its FUCKING CRIMINALS and police.
Weapon amnesties, gun licenses don't mean shit to the fucking criminal because the law does not mean a thing to them!
The people who are disadvantaged and downright oppressed by the laws are law abiding citizens. We cannot even buy a gun for self defense in this country. Does not stop a criminal getting one and robbing you or engaging in gang violence with each other.
So what was your point of pointing to Australia as a model of gun control reforms?
Jackson Thomas
When you take the national numbers of the whole world the trends is very slightly negative for firearms to homicides. That is the more firearms a nation has the fewer homicides it has.
Note that homicide is unjustified killing.
Dominic Murphy
remove niggers, and I'll think about it
Nathan Turner
wasn't Rebecca Peters in the employ of one George Schwartz 'Soros' responsible for the law passed after the 1996 Port Arthur event?
Nolan Sanders
Australians have higher time preferences than even some African countries. I don't know if that's from historically being a prison colony or what and passing on impulsive genes, but Nigger-tier patience is not something to be proud of.
Christopher Walker
>robbing people with out a gun
, you don't know how robberies work do you?
aic.gov.au
Success and death rates in knife vs gun robberies are incomparable
Gun robberies have far more deaths and success of cash grabbing.
Adam Carter
it wouldn't work in the USA
> They have too many people
> They are spread out across the country
> There are too many hispanics and blacks
> A huge black market will be born out of the prohibition.
> Too many guns already in the USA
Jaxson Foster
Technically you're not allowed to buy anything for self defence, since selfdefence is pretty much entirely illegal. In my state, a break action shotgun requires the same level of licence as a paintball gun, and both require the same storage. Pepper spray is also illegal.
Taking guns from the people is a slippery slope, this has been shown over and over again.
Thomas Price
show me the Australian violent crime rates over that period.
Kevin Powell
This post gave me cancer
If you think black market is cheaper than retail you use be an alcohol baby or something mate.
It's all about unemployed rates, and Americans are by far the laziest out of the bunch.
Literal African countries have better employment and job security than you guys.
Xavier Baker
More like japan. They hardly have crime.
Juan Smith
Burgers, it's time for a serious thread, no shitposting.
Our ex prime minister john howard got on your tv last night to LIE to your nation that gun control worked down under.
I am here to give you the real facts and dispute every single one of his lies with cited sources. Your job is then to save all these facts and BTFO anyone who tries to lie that aussie gun control worked. You will prevent the tragedy that happened to us happening in your nation and perhaps even redpill a few of my own countrymen as to the lies we've been fed.
>John howard claimed we have not had a mass shooting since port arthur
We have had FOUR since.
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
The hunt family murders
baka.com.au
The recent sydney seige
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Levi Rodriguez
I know mate, I am fully agreeing with you. It just makes my cock bleed when these dickhead yanks think that Australia is some crime free Utopia all thanks to the fuckwit Howard and his convenient 'massacre' in Tassie.
I am getting my firearms license and will fight tooth and nail if the State Govt (QLD) tries to deny it to me because of shit happening in the US.
Easton Flores
>homogeneous society and culture & strict justice system is safe
gee whiz
Nolan Jackson
Now time for some bonus points. Last week in victoria we've had 15 shootings, source below. We also had ANOTHER seige in sydney in the last week.
9news.com.au
abc.net.au
This is the first lie they push about our country. That the violence stopped. It did not stop, it has been brutally supressed due to gag and control orders on our media.
theguardian.com
(OP)
I find it amusing that people who want to ban guns thinking it will reduce gun crime.
Especially when they point to Australia as being a "gun control success story".
Australia is having an increase in crime, and has had one since the gun ban in 1997. Gun crime HAS gone down, yet what anti-gunners will not tell you is that it was dropping BEFORE the ban.
Link: ssaa.org.au
abs.gov.au
reason.com
articles.chicagotribune.com
snopes.com
Nathan Cruz
I take no responsibility for niggers and spics being the laziest fatbodies in America. If we multplied your abos by 6 times their population you'd get the same kind of reputation and high unemployment too.
Jace Nelson
You forgot about that cop who was killed in the Lockyear Valley earlier this year.
Thomas Kelly
>too many guns
not enough guns!
Robert Rivera
Did you know: one in ten of all guns seized by police from criminals in Australia is a DIY submachine gun?
Here are some articles showing the major failures of Australia's "tough" gun laws you won't see on TV-
I found these in less than 10 minutes:
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NEXT POST: THE CRIME STATISTICS RELATING TO HOME INVASIONS, RAPES, ASSAULTS POST BAN
As you can see here:
>Assault rose
aic.gov.au
>Sexual assault rose for 5-6 years following, before dropping off. Kidnapping also rose.
aic.gov.au
Anthony Howard
Japan also doesn't have niggers
Jaxson Nelson
>you don't know how robberies work do you?
Apparently you don't.
abc.net.au
Nicholas Bailey
It was already in a general decline, similar to most western countries.
There was correlation but not causation.
Cooper Young
I can use Saudi Arabia as an example of how prohibition can work but you know that's as bullshit as the Australia comparison.
Jace Murphy
>That's not how it works, dude.
That's exactly how it works. No taxes, no regulations. The market only works when it can sell for less than you can get someone to make a straw purchase. With a nice durable good like a firearm you can reuse and resell firearms over and over. Sell to one person, buy it back for half price, sell it to another person.
The firearms are stolen then sold or traded to drug dealers. Or smuggled in from Mexico as part of the drug trade. This drastically lowers the cost of the firearms.
>You're not taking into account the "finders fees" and risk associated with illegal firearms, which raises the price.
You aren't taking into account market forces.
Blackmarket firearms are cheaper than store bought firearms. Which is why people are always making shady deals for firearms. Buy one otherwise legal pistol from a guy, ask if he has anything else at a good price. Next time you get a brand new Mexican Army issue rifle for a few hundred bucks. That goes into your private collection.
Firearms are vastly easier to smuggle than drugs and carry lesser punishments if caught.
Nicholas Ramirez
>oh no, we have to give away some of the fiat currency to get all the weapons of the dumb goyim, what a pickle!
Angel Thomas
mate, perhaps the Ned Kelly types there should push for laws that make bodyguards for politicians illegal and any form of 'defense' of politicians illegal. When politicians are made vulnerable just like they make the citizens vulnerable then they start to see the light. Take the hedges of protection away from politicians the nanosecond they propose any laws detrimental to the citizens...