Will we ever get another dramatic love triangle or do nips only adapt harems with beta male lead?

Will we ever get another dramatic love triangle or do nips only adapt harems with beta male lead?

Best girl won

>love triangles

into the trash it goes

why dont you grow up and read josei already you pathetic mess

>love triangles

>if it's a harem the mc has to be a beta, just as the memes foretold

reading shoujo rape

It will mostly stay the same because the MC acts how a boy should, you fuckers call him a realfag

and if they design a MC that mirrors your own broken psyche you call him an edgy bastard.

I hope we do. And I hope we get something as good as WA2, as it was the best romance animu out there.

It was more like an anti-romance anime about the dangers of being a normalfag.

We're not talking about School Days here though.

Nobody said anything about School Days.

>anti-romance anime about the dangers of being a normalfag.
Pretty sure you meant School Days with this. WA2 is a tragic yet beautiful story.

TOUMA BEST GIRL

Settling for someone you're not really into and then cheating on her is not romantic, it's anti-romantic normieshit.

You are probably who finds kiddy toradora the best love story ever told. Fuck off

If you want your stories about princes on white horses, read fairy tales or shoujoshit. It's a story about imperfect people, and this is why it is so beautiful.

Are there any good harems where the MC isn't a ginormous beta, or is that only a myth?

>being interested in imperfect people

heres an idea; how about you just get into dating real people, they're all the same uninteresting scumbag shits you like so much

oh wait thats right, you've always been alone so your only interaction with realistic emotion comes from really bad middle school tier drama

oops

Grisaia, but I can't say it is a good harem.

Hi newfag.

Nice projections here, mate.

Why are you so mad? Did you got cucked before?

Love triangles are no better.

>Are there any good harems where the MC isn't a ginormous beta

It shows how much Sup Forums average power level has fallen.

I just like real romance, not anti-romance.

If you want "realism" then why not watch American shows?

He said "good"

They don't exist.

And even when they don't fear pussy they are either blank "chill" self-inserts or edgelords like HotD's MC (yeah Rei a shit but MC-kun is pretty edgy).

Setsuna stole the show. Damn, admit I liked her a lot.

Self-inserts are a meme.

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Oh yeah, that is Oregairu for those who don't know.a

Tfw when no s2

>If you want "realism" then why not watch American shows?
Because they obviously lack romance.

>It's a story about imperfect people, and this is why it is so beautiful
This user gets it right.
They feel and act like real people, that's why it's great.
They're not walking stereotypes.

So does WA2.

False dichotomy. A character isn't a "walking stereotype" just because they aren't "real." And if you're so insistent on "realism" then maybe anime isn't for you.

Well, it's up to you. You may watch your shows about flawless people, 600 year old perfect vampires and Mary Sues. No one makes you watch WA2. It just shows you don't know shit about romance at all.

You do realize that WA2 is a harem right? There's three more girls.

>You may watch your shows about flawless people, 600 year old perfect vampires and Mary Sues.
Nice strawman. Or maybe it's a serious representation of what you think you know about anime.

>No one makes you watch WA2.
I already watched it.

>It just shows you don't know shit about romance at all.
I do, and that's why I don't like WA2.

Tell us then, romance expert, which romance shows you liked.

No, because that's a trap and a red herring.

Mad Saekano fan up in here.

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>good harems

To create a good harem, one would have to:
- write an MC with character strong and interesting enough to justify him being a pussy magnet,
- maintain multiple proper romances at the same time; the "I want to suck his dick because he was nice/he saved me" is a no-no,
- come up with a GOOD reason why a bunch of girls would share a dick (or give MC some godlike cheating skills) to avoid a NICE BOAT,
- not resort to cockblocking or MC running away and let characters get lewd when the time comes,
- have some actual plot,
- sell all above to publisher and shitty audience,
- chain editor in the basement.

That would require writing skills way above an average manga/LN author, audience autism way below an average otaku and ability to fuck off and let writer do his job way beyond an average eleven shekelstein.

Great counter-argument, you sure showed me.

Now fuck off back to Facebook.

The harem genre isn't bad just because you don't like it.

>The harem genre isn't bad just because you don't like it.
Of course, it's bad because the execution of the idea is laughingly awful.

What you just described is not the idea of the genre, it's your personal idea.

Well, what is there to argue with? You only told THATS ANTIROMANCE BECAUSE I SAID THAT ITS FOR NORMALFAGS.

You have to be a normalfag to think WA2 is romantic and what romance anime should aspire to be.

Do we really need one? After Kazusa's glorious victory I think I'm satisfied with the genre and have moved on.

Harems however are not watched because they are good. They are watched because each girl is a hook that appeals to different tastes.

They throw out 3 or more hooks to catch as many people as possible and then they're all stuck watching the series for a single girl who will likely never win, and even if she does win it won't be satisfying. It's a shit genre but it's an effective one.

That MC would be generally considered to be a bad person. Most people would not root for a bad person unless they're the antagonist or it's a redemption story.

>anime is about the "best girl" "winning"
>I'm cynical and 16 years old so that means manga artists are conmen only trying to trick people into reading things
Maybe you should just stop watching anime altogether.

>glorious victory
It was a glorious victory if you ignore everything is in ruins.

Last time I checked, there was no scientific method for measuring quality of writing, so of course any attempt to classify a written work as good or bad is merely an opinion. Including yours.

If the girls were fine with sharing, he wouldn't really hurt anyone. Also MC doesn't have to be a good guy, he has to be interesting to watch.

>Last time I checked, there was no scientific method for measuring quality of writing, so of course any attempt to classify a written work as good or bad is merely an opinion. Including yours.
This has nothing to do with what I said.

>source: me
Well, we heard you already. Any arguments?

>source: me
Source: common sense.

>Any arguments?
Oh you mean like posting reaction images? I guess I haven't reached that level of argumentation ability yet.

I really hope they adapt Closing Chapter and especially Coda, because, oh boy, Introductory Chapter is just the beginning.

I admire the depth and realism of the characters, they're really human: they waver, they hesitate, hurt each other - a fucking lot. It's in no way idealistic, but that's also why it shines in comparison to other romances, I guess. Or at least, I think.

Grisaia no Kajitsu and Trinity seven.
There are only two in existence, so enjoy them.

No, I mean something more that I SAID THAT, THATS WHY

Of course it does. I listed what I believe are requirements for a good harem. And you keep talking about it being my personal idea, as if it could be anything else.
Honestly, I'm not even sure what you are trying to prove.

I want to believe.

There's nothing more that needs to be said.

> I listed what I believe are requirements for a good harem.
You described something that isn't the harem genre and complained that the harem genre is bad because it's not like that.

>White Album 2
There is always the second season of Oregairu for you.

In that case enlighten me, what the "harem genre" is.

If you don't know even what it is then maybe you shouldn't be trying to argue about it. Jesus christ.

It's just that you have you own little world, where words 'harem' and 'romance' mean something else than IRL. So please deifne what it means in your world.

Oh, but I do. I don't think there is anything wrong with my understanding what harem is, so unless you drop that holier-than-thou attitude and provide any argument proving otherwise, I believe you have nothing interesting to say.

Anime isn't IRL, least of all your normalfag IRL.

>Oh, but I do.
Oh, but you just said you don't.

Well I'm sorry if I want characters to act in a believable way.
Now go back to your shitty harem #30215.

>newfag
hes already did

If you want "realism" then anime is not for you. Go watch American shows.

>Now go back to your shitty harem #30215.
What the fuck are you babbling about?

>Oh, but you just said you don't.
If you really though so, it means irony is not something you are accustomed to.
To clarify your confusion - I was asking for definition of harem that YOU keep using but refuse to share, since it seems to be quite different form mine.

Thanks user i like you, show them.

If you've actually watched harem anime then you know exactly what it's like. Don't try to pretend like is what harem anime is supposed to be like.

I watched quite a lot of harems, so I know what they are like.
Also, you keep telling me that I'm wrong, but still don't provide any arguments to back it up. I can't wait to see your definition of harem.

>I watched quite a lot of harems, so I know what they are like.
Then I don't need to tell you anything. You know what they're like. Case closed.

>Also, you keep telling me that I'm wrong, but still don't provide any arguments to back it up.
Oh, so you HAVEN'T watched harem anime?

Best romance ever made.

Also Touma is god tier wife material.

>participates in cheating
>wife material
Pick one.

Pure love trascends cheating

As if normalfags would know what pure love is.

Jesus, Sup Forums.

W-Well I don't know what love is I can only guess
Touma's my best guess

>love triangles
"tfw no gf" tier genre.

So, you have no arguments. Case closed.

The only requirement for story to be considered a harem is to have multiple girls romantically and/or sexually interested in one guy as one of the major focus points. That's all.

Setsuna is too. Though I like Kazusa better.

>So, you have no arguments.
So you're trying to argue about harem anime without having watched it.

Yeah, actually Setsuna would be best girl in 97% of every anime series.

The problem is that she ended being against Kazusa who is pretty much perfect.

Yeah pretty much perfect except for having no morals.

Nice strawman you have found.

How about you say what is wrong with
>The only requirement for story to be considered a harem is to have multiple girls romantically and/or sexually interested in one guy as one of the major focus points.
Because none of the series labeled as harem that I have watched/read contradicts it.

Right now your argumentation is
>user's definition of harem is not the same as mine
>thus he haven't watched harem anime
which is a major fallacy. Nothing about what harem is or isn't. So if you are going to repeat it once more, just stay silent.

Something something love overcomes everything

It's not a strawman when you keep clearly indicating you haven't watched harem anime.

>How about you say what is wrong with
I never said there's anything wrong with it.

>user's definition of harem is not the same as mine
Your definition is simply wrong.

>Sup Forums talking bout morals

I'm not a spokesperson for Sup Forums.

>I never said there's anything wrong with it.
Maybe, but a moment later:
>Your definition is simply wrong.
So, what is wrong with it?

I didn't say there's anything wrong with it.

If you think there's some kind of discrepancy here, it might be because you've forgotten a post you made earlier. What do you think it could be?

This is the dumbest argument I've seen in a long time.

You are not the most communicative person I have ever met. Maybe you should try making your own point more often and focus less on repeating "you are wrong".

Here's the original post. You claim it doesn't fit "harem genre". I claim that yes, it does, because
>The only requirement for story to be considered a harem is to have multiple girls romantically and/or sexually interested in one guy as one of the major focus points.
which condition my original post meets.

Now, you keep saying that I'm wrong, without pointing out where exactly I'm wrong or providing any counterarguments. And "you haven't watched harem anime, because I say so" is not even an argument to begin with.
I was hoping you were trolling, but then this discussion would be amusing and it is not.

The day they release CC and Coda adaptation would be the happiest day of my life.

>You claim it doesn't fit "harem genre".
I claim it's not a definition of the genre or what the genre is supposed to be like, and it isn't. If you think otherwise it just means you've never watched harem anime.