Why is Sup Forums against israel?

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for Jewish children.

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I support Israel's right to exist as its own separate state, but it needs to stay the fuck out of American affairs.

But what about the Jewish people in the US (and other countries)? We need representation as well.

Why won't you come to Israel already?

I like it here.

Which state are you in?

new jersey. Why?

Just wondering. How is it there? Do you live next to arelim? Or do you live in a Jewish community?

its okay. I like going to the national parks in New york. But all my family lives here.

>Do you live next to arelim? Or do you live in a Jewish community?
nah, without getting into specifics I live like any other goy american. We're atheist jews

because the jews that control our media control what they think

many liberal western jews hate Israel

Atheism is illogical. Jews are parasites.

Would you say that religion among American Jews isn't strong? Do you know to speak Hebrew/Yiddish?

Sorry for the many questions, I never met a Jew outside of Israel and it interests me

But you just said it yourself. We're not united anymore than any other group of people. Some are pro-israel(me), other jews are not. So what's wrong with us having an "ethnostate" like you Sup Forumstards claim to want?

>us Jews can have an ethnostate
>no goyim you can't have an ethnostate that's rayciss

fuck Jews I hope you all die

Vegemite is unedible, Australians are savages

*inedible you inbred retard

My parents are fluent in it, I can read it but have issues speaking it. I imagine american jews tend to be more atheistic than israeli (i've met quite a few israeli jews) but eastern ashkenzi from east europe are the most I have ever met

just keep hunting Muslims
your ppl are doing humanity a great favor

*The most atheistic

Blow me goy

I don't think that. Why would you wish death on me?

too busy fucking your sisters and not calling them back, schlomo. back in the oven with you.

one bad apple theory.

>Atheism is illogical
elaborate

>one bad apple FALLACY

Would you sat you are more American or more Jewish?

Sure you do goy. Don't forget tongive your yearly taxes, I wanted a 2nd lambo forever now

I don't want the Jewish people to exist though.

see your fellow shithead like fro. Isreal's comments. Dont fool yourself, the average American still hates you.

You're like a filthy, inferior parasitic rat that must be cleansed from this world.

Jewish. People generally pick up that I'm jewish (by my appearance) and always talk politics with me. Some more liberal ones identify as american.

>Dont fool yourself, the average American still hates you.
I know..it's okay I still like the average american

The Zionists did not conquer Palestine
They sent American, British, French and Russian men to die in order for the Allied forces to divide up the Ottoman Empire and make a home for the Jews

Israel has no right to exist for they didn't earn that land through conquest, they stole it by being kikes

But why? I'm not a financial adviser/international banker or whatever.

You 've got it backwards Shlomo, we are not antisemites, we are counter-semites. It's the fucking kikes that hate people of European heritage, not the other way round. The kikes historically went out of their way to actively destroy societies the infiltrated and infested.

You're not of our volk and are an unsightly blemish on our nations.

>Israel has no right to exist for they didn't earn that land through conquest
Are you serious right now? Since the very beginning of the foundation of israel we have been at war with the arab world.

Israel's War for Independence. Israeli infantry make a full assault on Egyptian forces during the Arab-Israeli War in 1948. ...
The Six-Day War. ...
Fighting between Israel and Egypt. ...
The Yom Kippur War. ...
Israel invades southern Lebanon. ...
Israel invades Lebanon. ...
The first Palestinian intifada, or uprising. ...
The second intifada.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

>both of those wars took place after the UN formed Israel
When Israel was formed it completely fucked up the region
That is why those wars occurred

>It's the fucking kikes that hate people of European heritage
No I don't.
>The kikes historically went out of their way to actively destroy societies the infiltrated and infested.
You think I am trying to destroy the USA?

But you said we didn't fight for our land, which is total bullshit. All odds were stacked against us in the 6 day war

Okay, but why target us? You have others who also are not of your "volk"

It's easy to fight for land that was given to you
The Zionists didn't earn that soil
It is rightful Palestinian clay

>our land
Says the atheist Jew with no intention of returning to the Holy Land

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I'm not opposed to Israel but minorities who are more loyal to foreign entity are problematic.

I could make the same arguments about the USA. But I don't.

It's easy to fight for land when the inhabitants are primitive
The europeans didn't earn that soil. They had bow and arrows.
It is rightful native american clay.

And I may in the future return to israel.

>No, I don't

Gratz, you may be one of the absolute minority of your kind. Or totally bulshitting everyone ITT, either way your implied stance is not the norm.

>You think I am trying to destroy the USA?

Yes frankly, pic related

elaborate.
every government has undercover agents

Europe conquered North America
>muh injuns
A bunch of backward savages

They fought for their homeland and were defeated by a superior force

again
>pretending to believe jews are a united power
Wrong.. Just assaid.
>many liberal western jews hate Israel

Jews have arguments and disagreements just like any other people

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The whole point of israel is act as a containment area for jews. If theyre over in the US destroying it from within there's no need for israel.

you goyim are the only people stopping yourself from creating an ethnostate

>A bunch of backward savages
Palestinians

They fought for their homeland and were defeated by a superior force

You see? It seems like we are in an agreement. That's why I'm trying to figure out why Sup Forums is against israel.

yeah let me 'assimilate' my physical features. Christianized jews still get persecuted against

That's wrong but whatever.

You're pro-israel for the wrong reason.

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Their land was divided by outsiders from a negotiating table, not military force
Either exterminate the Palestinians or abandon Israel

They aren't a monolithic hive-mind. I never implied that. But they are tribalstic as fuck and the screenshot on my previous is one of the plethora of proofs of my position.

>many Jews hate Israel
Yeah because they marxism they preach forces them to. Do you genuinely believe that these exact kikes would stick around in a Europe overrun by Muslims and niggers, or they would flee to Israel?

I want honest answers Moishe

I'm sorry, but unlike white europeans. We don't like the idea of genocide as much as you do..

The Jews are the biggest parasites on America throughout it's history, getting the US needlessly involved in multiple wars from WW2 to instigating Iraq, meanwhile they caused the failure of other wars such as Vietnam. The most recent example is the Jewish/Israeli use of wealth and power to influence the entire US government to invade Israel's once-greatest enemy Iraq.
Using wealth from Jewish billionaire Zionists such as Haim Saban or Sheldon Adelson politicians were bought and Zionist neoconservatives were placed in key positions in the government, then removing them before public attention was focused on them. Unfortunately the Jews overplayed their hand and made it too well known.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm

>A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm (commonly known as the "Clean Break" report) is a policy document that was prepared in 1996 by a study group led by Richard Perle for Benjamin Netanyahu, the then Prime Minister of Israel.[1] The report explained a new approach to solving Israel's security problems in the Middle East with an emphasis on "Western values." It has since been criticized for advocating an aggressive new policy including the removal of Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and the containment of Syria by engaging in proxy warfare and highlighting its possession of "weapons of mass destruction".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Perle

>Richard Norman Perle (born September 16, 1941) is an American political advisor, consultant, and lobbyist...2] Later he was heavily involved with the Reagan administration and served as an assistant Secretary of Defense and also worked on the Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee from 1987 to 2004. He was Chairman of the Board in 2001 under the Bush Administration but eventually resigned in 2003 due to conflict of interests.

>But they are tribalstic as fuck
every person is.
>Do you genuinely believe that these exact kikes would stick around in a Europe overrun by Muslims and niggers, or they would flee to Israel?
Just like any other person. We would stay until we felt in danger.

Your copy and pasta is stale. I'd rather talk to you.

The truth is not stale, it exists and will always exist. The only ones who despise how it tastes are those addicted to lies, the more you lie the more you become accustomed to it. And you should not pry, this is merely the smoking gun. I have the entire crime scene available to post you kike.

>every person is

Wrong, most people when they are the majority of the country, are not tribal because they outnumber everyone. The minorities are by default tribal. Within the majority only a handful of people will be openly tribal, because most drink the cool aid of melting pot.

Having established that Jews are tribal, it's time to admit the nepotism that goes along with tribalism, isn't that right Yitzak?

>Just like any other person. We would stay until we felt in danger.

So you don't really hate Israel, you merely trying to appear as intellectually consistent.

Do you get it now Abe?

Not every jew is a bad person. Its flawed to think so and even hitler knew this. But collectively your people have done alot evil in Europe and America. You as a person are just as innocent of this as i am unless you support further zionism as you stated you do. Isreals interests are harming our societies with Isreali groups actively letting in refugees here. Remember Sup Forums isnt one person. Otherwise your views can be immediatly discarded for beeing a retarded Americunt.

>. You as a person are just as innocent of this as i am

What i meant to say by this is, For example Dutch slavery of niggers and the extirmination of jews.

yes. We're are the same. You just said it yourself.

>For example Dutch slavery of niggers and the extirmination of jews.
but we have never done either of those...

so, yeah.

wat???

Dr.Wily from the Mega Man series is based on the evil misdoings of David Bengurion and the zionist conquest of Palestine and eventually NWO.

They get all the money from the goyim, if it weren't for goyim, there would be no Israel

>most people when they are the majority of the country, are not tribal because they outnumber everyone. The minorities are by default tribal
when europeans become minorities you will be the same as us.

>bases his political opinions off of mega man

Fuck it.

Dick Cheney was the fall guy, he knew he would be the one fingered as the "mastermind" as to hide the Jewish control and motives

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_Energy

>Genie was part of IDT Corporation but was spun off on October 31, 2011, at which point Class B common stock of Genie Energy Ltd. began trading on the NYSE under the ticker symbol "GNE". [1]

>Genie's founder, chairman, controlling shareholder and CEO is Howard Jonas. Avi Goldin serves as the company's CFO, Michael Stein is the company's COO and Geoffrey Rochwarger serves as Vice Chairman. The president of its Israeli subsidiary is Effie Eitam. Genie Energy's Strategic advisory board is composed of: Dick Cheney (former vice president of the United States), Rupert Murdoch (media mogul and chairman of News Corp), James Woolsey( former CIA director), Larry Summers (former head of the US Treasury), and Bill Richardson, former Governor of New Mexico, an ex-ambassador to the United Nations and United States Energy Secretary.[2]

Lets consider this list
>Dick Cheney
Shabbos Goy, fall guy and face of the Bush Administration while being merely a puppet
>Fox News owner Ruper Murdoch
Provided the yellow journalism for Iraq
>James Woolsey
Works for the Jews at Gatestone Institute which works to defame and destabilize Middle Eastern countries. He also was one of the first government officials to implicate Iraq after 9/11
>Larry Summers
Jew, helped "restructure" Russia's economy causing the birth of the Jewish oligarchs

>Genie previously announced a strategic advisory board whose members provide strategic direction and council- former Vice President Dick Cheney, Michael Steinhardt, Jacob Rothschild, Rupert Murdoch,[3] R. James Woolsey, Jr., Lawrence Summers and Bill Richardson.[2] Mary Landrieu Former United States Senator from Louisiana from 2006 till 2014. She sponsored the US Israel energy bill, therefore allowing the start of the complete Annexation of the Golan Heiights

Wrong. You get all your money from jews

You're misunderstanding me. What im saying is, You cannot be held accountable for what your forefathers did or what others jews currently do. Like how i could not be held responsible for my countries past crimes. Still because alot of jews nowadays still meddle in the affairs of America and try to expand into foreign territory in the middle east. Aswell as unleash a reign of terror on our countries in Europe, Jews are still a problem. Is this more clear for you?

And how is any of this bad? Powerful jews are on both sides of the spectrum with different motives...

How are we a problem?

Because if you say we have a bad history, I can just throw this line right back at you
>You cannot be held accountable for what your forefathers did

>You get all your money from jews
What is a loan.

Because it is an unholy attempt to force God's hand.

A necessary transaction of any high functioning society. Without them you have something like North Korea

Jews are actively to this day meddeling with US affairs such as attempting to disarm US citizens and to stir up a race war. George Soros for example is to this day causing havoc all across Europe. What im talking about is not past affairs im talking about current. Like how jews fully support the destabilization of Syria and helping the downfall of Libya wich opened the floodgates of shitskins.

The key to the second part and the connection to Perle's "A Clean Break" paper is the last part- the Golan Heights and the gas Genie Energy is drilling there. This is the other reason why Syria is under attack by proxies, not only because it is a supply point for Lebanon and Hezbollah.

businessinsider.com/israel-grants-golan-heights-oil-license-2013-2

>Israel has granted a U.S. company the first license to explore for oil and gas in the occupied Golan Heights, John Reed of the Financial Times reports.

>A local subsidiary of the New York-listed company Genie Energy - which is advised by former vice president Dick Cheney and whose shareholders include Jacob Rothschild and Rupert Murdoch - will now have exclusive rights to a 153-square mile radius in the southern part of the Golan Heights.

>That geographic location will likely prove controversial. Israel seized the Golan Heights in the Six-Day War in 1967 and annexed the territory in 1981. Its administration of the area - which is not recognized by international law - has been mostly peaceful until the Syrian civil war broke out 23 months ago.

This is why Iraq happened. Why the Syrian Civil War is happening. Why the neocons all switched to supporting Hillary when she pledged war against Syria. Israeli security and energy independence.

All it has cost is millions of lives and 1 trillion US dollars.

If we get to the point of becoming minorities in our own countries, then we should nuke israel the moment this happens, just for a good measure.

So to prevent this senseless bloodshed, why don't you get the fuck off to Israel? Seriously, all of your problems and all of ours would actually be solved if you people fucked off to Israel. Why don't you go back? You don't like the countries you inhabit (ranging from indifference to absolute hatred) why don't you go to your own? What is wrong with being with your own people in your own country?

No one forces god's hand. Some people can fulfill holy by actions. You christians would call these people are called prophets.

They are causing numerous wars to secure it, causing the deaths of Americans, Iraqis, Syrians, etc.

Why should I be judged as soros when I disagree with what he is doing?

>They are causing numerous wars to secure it
We are already secure in israel. What are you getting at? These wars are not to secure the existence of israel.

They are for americans (some of them american-jews) to make $ off of war

You're still backing Isreal and you know damn well why we dislike Isreal. So quit pretending youre some sort of saint.

You and I both know Judaism is based on outsmarting and forcing God to return. My religion has no bearing on my telling the truth, khazar.

>then we should nuke israel the moment this happens
Israel has literally done nothing to you.
>why don't you get the fuck off to Israel?
I like it here. Like I said.

lol that pic. They dont even bother hiding it anymore. Why would they? Nobody will ever hold the jews responsible for their crimes.

Because israel has done nothing wrong. The USA was founded the same way israel was.

>The USA was founded the same way israel was.
You are a filthy fucking liar.

>Nobody will ever hold the jews responsible for their crimes
hey you stupid fuck. Tell me what crime I have committed

This is why John McCain has been hammering for war in Syria, he is paying off his debt to the Zionist Kike Sheldon Adelson.

newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/753604

>Las Vegas casino magnate Sheldon Adelson donated $1.2 million to a super PAC supporting Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain.

>Adelson, 83, chairman of the Las Vegas Sands Corp., made the donation to the Arizona Grassroots Action PAC in mid-August, according to ProPublica.

>The super PAC also received $250,000 each from Republican donors Paul Singer and Sam Fox.

Both Jews as well as Adelson

see

How are they gonna stay out of America when they own America

Die in a fire kike, the only thing the two have in common is genocide of the natives.

Palestine was there the entire time. I dont like arab cunts but neither do i like Isrealis. Saying you dindu nuffin is the weakest fucking counter argument there is. Or saying b-but murica. Its about the nation you support. A nation that caused nothing but disharmony. The only reason its there is because England decided to dump the jews there. And ever since Isrealis cannot contain themselves from attempting to create greater Isreal and weakening europe by the puppet EU state.