>00:03 seconds the shots sound like they are right on top of him >00:45 seconds later the shots are clearly off in the distance He didn't move so echos are out of the question. I don't default to conspiracy theories when things like this happen, I look for reasonable explanations. But this has me baffled. Could this obvious c change in the sound be explained by simply moving to the second window? I'm at a loss. Someone tell me I'm a dumbass for not noticing some obvious detail.
The shots fired at 00:45 were not preceded by any of the shots you heard at 00:03. He even comments on how they sound like they are coming from further away
Jackson Bell
spoopy bump
Lucas Rodriguez
The shooting was a textbook group sniper/terror attack that is commonly used in color revolution "Springs" like Arab & Ukraine. It also has similarities with the Dallas Sniper, which was part of a similar operation.
Predictive programming was also used involving Marilyn Manson getting crushed by guns at a concert with a purple(color revolution) background.
If you map out the locations of Yellowstone, Groom Lake & Denver International Airport they form a triangle. Pyramids create triangle shadows, in this case the shadow points to Groom Lake which is near Vegas. In Vegas they have a pyramid, who's shadow casts pointing to/at the kill-zone location. The hotel, pyramid & kill-zone form a triangle.
iirc the AR10 was on a bipod while the 15 wasnt. there couldve been other weapons too that we havent seen
im just speculating. ive been around guns a lot and the sound of them can do some funny things but im by no means an expert.
i would love to see a similar video from the outside of the opposite side of the concert as the hotel to compare. if you could layer two videos and match the shots up it would damn near prove two shooters
Ian Price
nice catch user this correlates the muzzle spotted on lower floors
Matthew Perez
OP, if I point my gun towards your direction the barrel will fire and the sound will carry towards your direction more clearly. If I adjust my aim and move my rifle at the complete opposite direction then the sound will be further away.
Noah Gonzalez
Did you watch the vid. The disparity wouldn't be that great. There are clearly shots coming from a different location. The driver didn't move and it doesn't matter where the weapon was pointed if the sound was coming from the same small opening.
Luke Thompson
You're absolutely right. In order to determine whether or not this is what the video shows, some audio forensics would be good. There are a few ways to approach this: >do the firing patterns match? >do the echo delays match?
Aaron Diaz
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Samuel Butler
This isn't from the video I posted. There's no sign truck at 00:08. What are you even suggesting? Also, why did you sage this thread?
Julian Scott
and wasn't there that guy that tweeted out almost immediately and said there were 3 shooters?
Colton Johnson
I don't know, but this shit needs bumped. The people claiming bullshit like are also saging the thread. Like I said, I'm always looking for the most reasonable explanation.
David Flores
Not broken windows, they don't even correlate to the correct portion of the building from where the reports came from.
Six month old picture of the Hotel. It's not unusual or uncommon for room windows to be blocked out for whatever reason.
Landon King
That's certainly reasonable. The windows may be nothing. The video still has me scratching my head.
Easton Rivera
can't wait until Sup Forums finds actors that look similar to the people who died, and people start saying that there was never a shooter.
Tyler Watson
Yeah the audio certainly is interesting, given the assortment of weapons that were found in the hotel and the break between the two lots of shooting it might be possible that's when he switched windows or even weapons.
Either might account for the change in acoustics.
Evan Peterson
Stop with this shit. There was a shooter. People died. I'm asking whether there were two shooters.
Henry Garcia
You mom's thighs form an inverted triangle, with her pussy at the bottom, which I pounded 'til she screamed last night.
Jackson Evans
They're trying to discredit the point that this event is eerily similar to the Maidan event in Ukraine by attaching a bunch of tinfoil crap to the idea
Nathaniel White
>there couldve been other weapons too that we havent seen OP video really sounds like a 240 or Minimi, that definitely isn't an AR15.
Nicholas Long
There are always more than one shooter, the police are stupid fucks and find anyone they can pin it to and go with that. Case closed. No need to spend time looking for a dangerous individual, there are parking tickets to write!
No, moving 100 feet is not going to change the acoustics nor drop the volune drastically. Distance from the camera is going to stay relatively the same.
Juan Edwards
I'm no audio expert. But would the sound at 00:45 sound that much different and more off in the distance by just switching weapons? At 00;03 the sound is clearly right on top of him. At 00:45 it sounds like it's far of in the distance.
Colton Lopez
There were 3 shooters.
Soros' PMCs
Isaiah Williams
I noticed yesterday's daytime video of the Mandalay showed the 2 broken windows with the curtains blowing out into the wind, like the authorities didn't do the obvious and put up plywood or some other blockage over the smashed openings, to properly secure a crime scene. This was many hours after the incident.
"Look you plebs here are the 2 openings the shooter used look you plebs the curtains are even blowing DUH so don't you even try to claim anything other than the story we've spoonfed to you fucking plebs."
Jordan Sanders
DID YOU JUST ASSUME XEN'S GENDER
Gabriel Sanchez
You might be fucking retarded. The M4/AR whatever floats your goat fires at 800 RPM, the 249 actually fires at a lesser fire rate. I’m not sure where you got a 240 from but you would’ve known from the pure amount of blood shed 7.62 nato causes.
Cooper Foster
>Check drudge >see article about the new future >LV hotels are starting to wand people with metal detectors >whole article sounds a lot like the sept 10 don't go outside in vegas/henderson guy's warning >people don't kill other people to sell metal detectors and ban guns >dont pay attention to the millions that would murder you for 100$ let alone 100 million What the fuggin sheeb, guys...
Jason Gonzalez
I don't know about all that but it's obvious something bigger is going on. If anything, the guy was radicalized by Islam. This is way too professional and done by a guy with zero motive.
Jackson Torres
It depends on what direction the gun is pointing. If it's pointing towards you, it will sound a lot closer than if it was pointing in the opposite direction. I live near a shooting range and my driveway goes towards the front of it, meaning you can maybe hear at most a few cracks here and there when you're in my house, but it's really loud when you reach the end of the driveway despite my house being closer to the range than the end of the driveway.
Alexander Ortiz
samefag
Carter Price
Ok, so people are more interested in the windows acting like it debunks the vids. The windows likely have a reasonable explanation. I wish I wish hadn't posted the windows in this thread. The sound of the gunshots is the baffling part.
Ryder Diaz
>event is eerily similar to the Maidan event in Ukraine
Ironically it was Hillary Clinton and Obama that paid mercs to shoot at people from a building there. The goal being to kick off a major civil war. Coming after a protestor was killed around a month previously.
Kevin Thompson
IT JUST KEEPS GETTING WEIRDER
Connor Robinson
Yeah the elite don't give a shit about you and would do anything to make a buck. You're not a conscious entity to them, you are literally seen as a lesser being.
Luke Scott
>I don't default to conspiracy theories when things like this happen, I look for reasonable explanations.
So you basically use the term, "conspiracy theory" as simply a by-word for made-up bullshit?
And you don't think this is a conspiracy? Your incorrect use of the term?
You don't see how you've been manipulated to think like this?
Brayden Morris
i think your right. he also had multiple guns
Matthew Torres
You're a dumbass who doesn't know what a sonic crack is. The "shots right on top of him" are the sound of bullets passing his position at supersonic speed. The "shots off in the distance" are the sound of actual gunfire.
Dylan Flores
>But would the sound at 00:45 sound that much different and more off in the distance by just switching weapons?
It would depend entirely on the weapons, but it could absolutely make that much of a difference, as could his firing position within the room or from what room he was firing from.
A number of weapons have been shown so far that were allegedly used during the shooting, some had bipods, there have also been reports of tripods, so it's not unreasonable to assume a variety of firing positions were taken up during the incident.
Firing within the room itself would effectively act like a massive suppressor versus shooting at the threshold of the open window etc
Just spend some time watching footage of urban combat, there's absolutely no shortage of it out there these days.
Jordan White
He shot police coming after him in the hotel and went back to shooting
Kayden Anderson
>32nd floor 3+2=5 23 backwards
Blake Robinson
at 4:50 you can see the muzzle of the gun fiiring that surely cannot be on the 32'th floor.
Blake Young
>user, I just don't see why you would need an automatic weapon. wat do?
>it isnt possible that he killed the security coming after him in the hall, as confirmed he did... fucking spiracy tards
Ethan Gomez
Seen this photo posted last night and it had nothing to do with the thread at hand, looks like the shills are out in force.
Nolan Taylor
Doppler effect?
Jack Rogers
That's funny that you called him retarded and then made that post.
Mason Roberts
To be clear, the police met up with a security guard on the 32nd floor that had been shot in the leg. There was a lot of chat about this on the police scanner and you can hear it for yourself
Nathan Lopez
to be clear, that's what the sounds of the muffled gunfire is. him shooting inside
Elijah Smith
>he
Nicholas Powell
at 4:50 you can see the muzzle of the gun fiiring that surely cannot be on the 32'th floor.
Charles Nguyen
ANNUIT COEPTIS Novus Ordo Seclorum
Justin Morris
>3 points form a triangle Hold shit guys, we have a genius among us. We should listen to what he has to say
Christopher James
The windows are fine, if anything they help towards a second shooter. I e, let's say he was running around floor 32 suite using diff windows and weapons but how the hell would he run up and down the hotel floors in a matter of minutes?
Hudson Williams
explain that automatic weapons are already controlled strictly.
Then you SHALL NOT them because legal full autos have been used in crime 3 times since becoming regulated in 1934. They're literally a non-issue.
Blake Kelly
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Kevin Bailey
I'm just looking for a reasonable explanation.
Samuel Myers
The echo theory suggests that only echos are heard by the observer (taxi driver) when fired out of the window directly above her. This would explain why the shots fired from the furthest window do not produce any echo
John Lopez
Yeah the 65 year old boomer with no military background and who was not a gun enthusiast, and therefore likely untrained, was running from room to room, on multiple floors, and managed to hit scores of people. Or the other possibility is that the whole story is bullshit from top to bottom. Stop with the public relations apologetics for this bullshit.
Lucas Robinson
FRANK AND BEANS
Kevin Baker
im going to have to agree with the timbre of it sounds heavier than an ar15. it may be the ar10 though, since it is chambered in the same round as a 240 although im not entirely convinced.
Justin Rodriguez
theblacked out windows shown on instagram are on the back side of the hotel facing away from the venue. Also i would imagine its not uncommon for the odd window to get broken in vegas with all the drunken degens running around
Cooper Lee
>Novus Ordo Seclorum sphinx looking upon massacre. look at photo in front of luxor(pyramid.)
Jose Anderson
Anti-terrorism means terrorism war means peace freedom means slavery
Daniel Mitchell
slow the video down. The shots early in the video (first several seconds) could be echos, the number of shots match. The later shot bursts, around 1 minute in, have no correlation. Also, you hear faint shots before you hear the loud shots, echo's don't work that way. Moreover the change in volume is WAY to drastic to attribute it to a change in the shooters direction or moving a few windiws down, particularly when the driver is presumably almost directly under the shooter.
Angel Bennett
>Also, you hear faint shots before you hear the loud shots (assuming we are talking about the same thing) I believe this is caused by her driving into the mini tunnel thing, muffling the sound of the nearer shots
I agree that the audio could be evidence of two shooters, but I'm still on the fence. Just presenting a counter-argument
Justin Flores
Enjoy, now it's your turn, fuckers. What goes around comes around
Connor Garcia
Problem is in the video the driver doesn't move and the shooter was only supposed to have moved several windows over and shooting in the same general direction. Also the driver says that it sounds like the shots were further away and I would have to agree. Lots of hunting goes on around my house and you definitely can get a sense for distance; a gunshot close up sounds considerably different than one far away, I don't care which direction they are pointing.
Isaiah Perry
I know the part you are talking about, we agree about the tunnel. I'm refering to the last several bursts of shots before she pulls away.
Nicholas Sanders
>What goes around comes around it's "what goes around is all around", fucking moron.
Jacob Bell
I'd have to watch it all and listen again but the theory that the more distant sounds on there own are where he was shooting indoors seems plausible.
Jacob Price
0:47 to 1:13
The only explanation for this is he may be shooting from further inside the room doring the quieter gunshots.
Julian Evans
Inb4 this can driver commits suicide
Colton Hill
This is what realy went down. About 10 assasins were hired to kill this guy for a mob bosses heart transplant. One the tremor brothers showed up it was total bloodbath
Levi Sullivan
The shots around 1:40 sound odd. Like either two shooters or a hiccup with the slidefire stock
Elijah Rogers
Diana coverd up 47s tracks and blamed stephen paddock
Nolan Thomas
The "muzzle flash" everyone sees on lower floors was actually caught on a fox news report well after the shooting. I'd be interested who paid for that room though and if it was a distraction...
Henry Garcia
Doppler effect only changes pitch if something is moving
Lincoln Mitchell
Oh yeah I feel stupid now.
Gabriel Nelson
Don't feel stupid, it's important to think of all possibilities and every thing that makes sense becomes stronger evidence to support a theory.
