So what exactly is going on that causes them to throw out the entire Nanoha aspect of it?
Did Yukarin's falling out with King Records burn so many bridges that even using the old IP name wouldn't be possible?
Did Aniplex and King Records have a large war internally over the IP that screwed things over?
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Calling the show Nanoha even when Nanoha is actually barely more relevant than "MC's mother" in any random anime undermines the focus on the actual starring characters
In the past they were happy to do things that way because the show was being funded by sales of Nanoha's VA anyways.
Vivid was a mistake.
I just want my middle school lolis movie.
Yukarin could go at any moment.
>the entire Nanoha aspect
It has Vivid characters. Also, the girl in the promo is basically Nanoha.
Nanoha was originally a spin off series from a VN character, so making a spin off from another character from Nanoha is fitting.
They know that loli is best. This is why.
enjoy you're timeskip
>implying we won't get a timeskip
She is probably some descendant of Claus or relative of Einhart. That would explain why she has similar barrier jacket elements (those metal things on gloves, the sleeves look like Einhart's stockings, green color). And also why she has a leopard.
With the leopard she could be Einhart too, but the color of Teo is different and of course, hair color.
Still did they really need to make the girl look like Nanoha that much? Really have to wonder why the new girls. Vivio ain't enough of a protag for her own action series?
Could be they are gonna be antagonists?
I want my high school age Nanoha movie.
>Nanoha looking character as an antagonists
That's actually kinda funny.
Vivio is pretty much Nanoha 2.0, with Einhart taking Fate's spot, just much less likable and infinitely shittier.
Man it's all trash it's such fucking garbage. Why the hell did it come to this.
I don't mind Vivio all that much. My biggest issue is that Vivio and Einhart could work if there was actually any tension within the Vivid series. Maybe Vivid Strike will actually rectify that.
So do I need to watch all that nanoha shit to watch this?
KR wants to promote their two new favorites.
Who cares about the fanbase?
Did Nanoha Force ever get finished?
How the fuck would we know? We don't even know what the premise of the show is.
Nope still in limbo (or cancelled whichever you prefer).
I want the old Nanoha and Fate duo shenanigans back.
It sure got "finished".
Teasing obviously. Se might not look that much like Nanoha from front, she just has brown hair and and ponytail. But what do we know, maybe she'll have blue eyes instead of purple.
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RIP in peace.
Weren't we getting a third movie? Whatever happened to that?
Yukarin left King Records remember.
Actually, we just don't know what the hell happened to that plan. Maybe all the shit flinging for the IP put in absolute limbo or whatever. It isn't happening anytime soon that's for sure.
Just watch the two movies and wait warmly
Yeah, she left pretty recently. The third movie was promised ages ago if I remember right.
>Never again
; _ ;
>Vivio is pretty much Nanoha 2.0, with Einhart taking Fate's spot
That's what we thought Vivid was going to be, sure.
The impression is probably that Vivio and Einhart don't sell on their own, and they obviously won't sell CDs or events all that well. (and before anyone bitches Nanoha has always been a CD and event whoring anime)
Vivio and Einhart figures all shelfwarmed hard before all Nanoha series merchandise stopped selling and they won't even take the risk on an adult mode Einhart or white jacket Vivio.
>originally a spin off series from a VN character, so making a spin off from another character from Nanoha is fitting
>a porn game turn into magical girl turn into mecha turn into a sports manga
I wonder what this abomination is going to be about
>We thought
Until Tsuzuki decided that he can handle a weakling MC and still produce a good story(Hint: He can't, he is a shit writer)
how do you guys still remain fans after all this mismanagement
Are they fucking serious? Four years of complete silence from 7arcs in regards to their most beloved franchise, and what they suddenly have to show for it is even more vivid garbage? Laughable at fucking best.
They didn't even bother to put Nanoha in the title. Tsuzuki you baffling madman, I hope some batshit 2ch Nanoha fanatic stabs you.
To love is to suffer
Contract and IP disputes are a bitch.
A new series is basically the only way to get new anime for the Nanoha franchise.
Looks like you haven't paid attention to what has gone on in that 4 years.
I want to rip Tsuzuki apart in the streets of Tokyo to set an example for this fucking industry.
once this bombs maybe they can make sekirei s3
I'm just glad the series is going back to its anime original roots, even if it isn't "Nanoha" in the strictest sense.
I am more and more convinced this is going to be an unmitigated spinoff and the Revinton and Berlinetta characters are the leads. So long Vivio/Enihart, it was fun.
At least lets hope they are lesbian couple.
Is this going to become a thing? Are we going to be replacing the main characters every couple of years?
Damn, that thought feels bad though. I liked Einhart, and Vivio, although she wasn't that strong of a character.
So what has Yukarin even been doing now since she's quit King Records?
She still gets anime roles.
She has been silent on twitter for the last six days.
There's reason to be worried.
>Another StrikerS
It's like they want to kill the franchise. They better introduce a bunch of new lolis and avoid eliminating mahou shouho elements. That's the only way this will be passable.
>MC is Vivio and Einhart's daughter
>Teams up with the other Vivid couples daughters
>Mentored by Tea and Subaru's daughter
This much should be obvious. They have the top two spots in the cast list and their voices sing the OP and ED. Vivio and Einhart are listed next so they'll definitely be in it, but not as the main characters.
That's terrible.
>They know that loli is best.
The character in the teaser image is clearly a teenager, so I don't know what you're going on about.
Given how Nove is listed amongst the cast, I think it is safe to assume there will still be the martial arts element, since her part is being coach.
StrikerS was the best selling TV series of the Nanoha franchise user.
Only because the fanbase was at its peak and was running on inertia thanks to season 1 and season 2. StrikerS was the thing that got the decline rolling.
>Only because the fanbase was at its peak and was running on inertia thanks to season 1 and season 2
The tv series also had a lot of quality troubles that were fixed in the DVDs.
Yeah, fun when people still post screenshots of the tvcaps.
They don't make QUALITY as they used to.
>the thing that got the decline rolling
That was where no new TV series coming out and all manga continuations sucked.
>implying Nanoha going full higurashi on Tea's ass was not the highlight of the season
The decline was because there was no new Nanoha anime content for years. We got fucking Dog Days shit from Seven Arcs instead.
Really have to wonder if they have what it takes for this to stand on its own two feet.
I see. I think this is right.
For the series to grow it must move away from the old characters. We don't want this to be like Dragon Ball. It should be more like Precure.
Precure doesn't change the formula every time though.
this^
>Force
>acknowledged by anyone ever again
pick one
She still has roles.
I think it can be successful if it goes back to its roots. Lesbian mahou shoujo fighting misunderstood bad guys with all their hearts. If this is just more martial arts tournaments, there's no hope left.
I think they are trying to move beyond Nanoha.
Having her name in the title is kind of misleading.
Alternatively, there's some shit going on with the IP(Which also stopped Vivid BDs) and they can't use the Nanoha brand for now.
>yfw vivid strike is a yaoi martial arts anime
Question is how are they going to transition to these girls being the MCs now.
If something serious does happen it isn't like Nanoha and the old co just suddenly stand still doing nothing unless either they retire because timeskip or they got killed off (this will never happen).
It will take place during the Force timeline were Nanoha and co are busy dealing with the Eclipse incident.
Well, they could write a serious plot.
The tagline does seem to imply some seriousness. Then there's the possible ancient belkan links from this new character.
Well alternative universes/timelines is a thing in Nanohaverse so it is possible that Vivio and co get warped somewhere completely foreign to the standard universe.
Assuming they are going with none of the old Nanoha and co showing up and Vivio is still the original one from Vivid and not some alternate version.
nanoha serie ended with A's
fuck strikers and whatever the fuck comes after that.
It's Vivid, it's going to be more martial arts. Nanoha hasn't really been a magical girl series for a while now.
Even only having martial arts would be fine if they go for a plot more like S1 or A's. If it's a tournament or whatever the fuck StrikerS was, I'm going to be upset.
>more martial arts
ah, seems I am a faggot
Strikers 2 then?
I am satisfied
>Vivio, Ein, Corona, Rio, Nove
>full Nakajima Team
Prepare yourself for a new tournament.
>ep1 begins
>reintroduces Team Nakajima
>they're training for a new tournament
>lots of monologuing about new setup, rules, seeding, etc.
>it's time to go to the tournament
>board the ship
>take off
>OH GOD WE'RE UNDER ATTACK
>ship crashes on uninhabited planet
>pan up on shadowy silhouette of Fuuka
>end episode 1
We didn't even finish the old one. Please no.
So, time for a lot of ancient belka?
>Vivio gets worshipped by the locals as the second coming of Olivie
Movies were good, even if you didn't like them as much as the original series, they were excellent eye-candy.
PSP games are great as well.
There is some nice manga like Innocence and Movie 1st Comic.
Lastly, there are tons of hilarious and cute CD dramas with great interaction between the different characters.
There are plenty of good things after A's, just not any great TV anime.
>They know that loli is best
>Nanoha creators
Nice joke.
Nanoha is kinda big pastebin.com
>Vivid Season 2 (when it's done)
Well, there's Vivid Strike.
Honestly I'll just settle for Bardiche getting any lines
That's it. That's all I want out of anything anymore
You'll be lucky if he even shows up.