Berserk episode 2

So let's talk about Serpico.

What does Sup Forums think about him anyways? Personally he's my favorite in the JRPG party

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>What does Sup Forums think of him
It's not like he's a newly introduced character you mongoloid.

literally climb

>It's not like he's a newly introduced character you mongoloid.

And? You can't talk about liking a character because he's not new?

It's like Brock but OP as hell
I think is the only human without any "superpower" able to fight Guts

He's half the reason I enjoy Farnese's character and her role in the party. I want to see him fight an apostle on his own, see how he fares.

He took out a kelpie, which in my opinion is a creature leagues above some of the apostles. Magic is far more dangerous than a bigger mouth with a hundred teeth. I think he'd be able to win against the snake baron with ease.

I figured about the same. He'd probably be able to take on someone like the count or the baron from the early chapters, who were purely brute strength and massive frames. Against someone like Rosine he'd probably struggle or outright die. Anything above that is Guts-only territory, though I'd be surprised if by some cunning trick he somehow managed to push one of Griffith's generals into a disadvantageous position.

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I wouldn't be so sure about that. Keep in mind that Guts is experienced and always prepared for apostle fights. There's a reason his sword is so huge - anything less would barely hurt an apostle.
Considering how apostles can survive having their guts cut out, taking a cannon to the chest, or even having their neck pierced by a knife, I doubt Serpico could harm them in any significant way with his rapier and feather sword.

Sure he's pretty strong, but just not specialised enough to be fighting something like that.

Damage is quite inconsistent. Wyald is worried about dying by injuries that don't even come close to what snake baron and the count suffered through. At the same time Rosine seemed the toughest one we've seen yet, pretty much dying when she literally falls apart mid flight.

>Wyald is worried about dying by injuries that don't even come close to what snake baron and the count suffered through
A sword through the neck, then a knife stab in the heart, then a knife stab right in the eye? Any of thee would kill any normal living thing. And he still had the strength to kill some guards and crawl to the camp to capture Griffith, he was only really killed by Zodd.

The snake baron was shot with a cannon, then cut in half, then shot in the face multiple times with the crossbow, and still only died because a building on fire fell on him, and he was left to burn alive.

The count also got shot by the cannon, and literally got his head cut off, and then stabbed multiple times.

Rosine got shot by the cannon, cut almost in half by the sword, then pierced by the sword, and still had the strength to fly.

There's just no way Serpico could do enough damage to be any problem to an apostle. At least not with his weaponary.

But Serpico has a magic sword.

Yeah that's what I mean, Zodd kills him but he is envisioning the hell void because he is already dying. He's pretty damaged but the count, baron and Rosine suffered damage that was comparable to Wyald being torn up by Zodd. Besides that decapitation seems yo do the trick for most apostles, the count lived through it because of his ability. If Serpico used the sword of the sylph on the baron to decapitate him I think it'd be over.

My point is I doubt the sylph sword has enough cutting power to really damage an apostle, let alone to compare with the dragonslayer, which by itself is often insufficient.

Isn't it the fact you're using a weapon that functions in multiple layers? A dragonslayer that didn't have the magic power would be less effective. At the same time, in the current fusion of the layers any weapon should be able to effectively wound apostles and mythical creatures.

That's not the problem, apostles can die from a normal sword. I'm just saying that Guts uses a huge sword, because his enemies are huge. You couldn't kill an eleohant with a knife you know. I doubt Serpico's weapons just cut deep enough to be any threat to apostles.

At the state they are in now that seems so. Wonder if they'll evolve somehow. Won't be interesting like this forever, even more so for Isidro's glorified lighter.

>pic
why can't teh entire fucking show be like this goddamnit

>no superpower
>literally has a magic cape that lets him fly and a magic sword that can send blades of air slicing through opponents yards away
alright

Its annoying they did not explain why Farnese can't see Puck before showing Serpico's reaction to the demons. It really lessens the impact of realizing Serpico isn't a believer like everyone else.

This is not for non manga readers anyway. No way you can follow this without prior knowledge.

Gundam IGLOO came out in 2004 and had better cgi

I understand that but its laziness. They could have had Puck just state that non believers can't see him to Guts and then the cut to Serpico. It would cause an interest in him as a character for the audience.

Awesome as this is they can't make 3 minute episodes of Berserk.

How the fuck the rating for the episode 02 is lower than episode 01?
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and she says "little rushed"
What the fuck? the pace was fine in the episode 02. In episode 01, they skipped a lot of things and she didn't say that.

don't bother, this is ign.

Why do you care about that shit website anyways?

They were probably only paid to review episode 01.

I like berserk, and while the animation of this adaptation sucks, it's still fun.

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this gets me everytime.

Episode is an original content by Miura apparently.

BOW BOW BOW BOW BOW

Episode 03*

The Berserk PS2 game had cutscenes that were better than this.

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Damn right it did

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Kill yourself memeing crossposter

He wouldn't have a chance against the count. Nigga was huge and he had a regeneration ability. Unless serpico is willing to take a little girl hostage, he just won't beat the count.

>The Berserk PS2 game had cutscenes that were better than this.
Nice meme.

He didn't use either of those things when he fought Guts in the pillar place.

isn't he supposed to be a stupidly great tactician/strategist?

He never straight up fights Gutts but chooses to fight him in locations that give him an edge because otherwise Guts would fucking obliterate him

if he had enough time and gathered enough info on a target Apostle he could probably take it, it's not like Guts ever just fucking murders Apostles, he usually has to work out the best way to eviscerate them, and even then he usually just blows them the fuck away out of desperation

>it's not like Guts ever just fucking murders Apostles

But yeah, maybe with proper preparation Serpico could take an apostle down. He doesn't lack the skill.

He didn't have either of those during his final duel with Guts you dumb bastard. As a matter of fact he didn't have them any of the times he chose to engage him, and every time he was damn close to snatching victory. For a human with no powers or magic equipment that's fucking incredible, the cape and sword merely puts him near or on Guts' level with the berserker armor.

fucking cursed armor doesn't count, I'm talking about using what god gave them

I am so sad that we will never see the count arc and lost children animated. People say that the early chapters are bad and edgy, but imo, those chapters are really important for guts's character development. His redemption and him slowly becoming more human is so much more meaningful if we see him in his lowest point. Once he was ready to kill/use innocents as meat shields, he hated weak people, he trusted nobody and he was basically a madman fuled by hate and the desire for revenge. Sometimes he was even more destructive than the apostles. Now he has started to trust people again, and acts as a wise mentor/ father figure for his team, He is willing to use the lethal berserker armor, to protect his new friends, he has regained a sense of humor and he no longer fights for revenge, Now he fights for love.

Skipping the black swordsman arc takes away all that development. Instead of being the most broken man who still managed to get back on his feet, he now goes from a somewhat angry and very atheistic swordsman, to a slightly better person.

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No wonder Casca didn't get any, all these shotas had each other.

pre-magical items Serpico is stronger and a better tactician than pre-eclpise Griffith. This is fact.

Why do you think that? We've barely seen Griffith fight at all. The only significant ones are the three fights against Guts and that short fight with Zodd. It's just impossible to compare them with that little info.

Serpico wouldn't take old man dick

Oh here we go.

It's simple, Serpico managed to draw with dragonslayer+handcannon Guts, while Griffith lost against pre-eclipse Guts.

He wouldn't need to

Neither would Griffith. He just wanted it.

He is right though. Anyone who would disagree with him it's a retard.
It's just like said

Bump

I haven't read the manga and would like to know why she can't see puck. I've been googling but haven't found any mention of it yet.

>To where they will become one
>Hell is referenced as a swirling mass of dark souls where you lose your consciousness/individuality and just become part of the mass
He's totally sending those souls to Hell isn't he

Look at what he did to become a physical god in the first place, what do you think?

Probably

I wish that never got mentioned at all. The entire concept is too fucked up.
Vargas is in hell, all the hawks, all the kids from Rosine's transformations, Jill will go there too, all the victims of Wyald, and Guts and Casca will too. Depending on the spread of demonic influence do will Rickert, Erica, and Guts' new party.

Firm believes ignore the supernatural. Basically they are dumb adults that don't believe in fairy tales anymore.

I don't remember it exactly, but I think it's because she is too close-minded and religious to accept the reality of magical creatures, so she can't consciously see them.

What the hell is griffiths endgame?
Let's take a quick look at everything he has done.
He became a god hand member.
Then got a real body in the real world.
After that he became a hero and defeated the Kushan invaders.
While doing that he merged the astral world and the normal world, making the normal world uninhabitable.
He also created the only place where humans can be safe, and right now, all of humanity is forced to go there.

What is his plan? Does he intend to sacrifice all of those humans? There won't be another eclipse for a few hundred years. Also, what would he ask for? He can't ask for more power or something like that, because the other God hand members might not agree with his desires. Also, he does not care about anybody, how can he sacrifice the people, if he has no connection to them?

My theory is that he know that guts will come to his city, and he needs that to happen. Maybe guts's presence will help him being forth a new eclipse.

Guts is the Void to Griffith's Gaiseric is what seems to be a popular theory. Falconia gets sacrificed, the cycle completes and restarts. Welcome to Dark Souls.

So, after hearing how awful this show was I picked up the manga. I just got to the part where Guts got his Berserker Armor.

Jesus christ

Also why is Skull Warrior a top tier bro?

He's not such a bro according to his legacy, he's just wise n shit

Am I suppose to like Zodd? The guy seems pretty... "decent" for a demon.

meant for

yes, I think we are supossed to like most of the new band of the hawk commanders. They seem to be honourable at least, unlike low-tier apostles.

Also, I hear people complaining that berserk has been a light hearted shonenshit ever since the troll arc. I think that miura is working really hard to lure us in to a false sense of security. I mean, guts has over 10 companions right now, and everyone is doing well. I am 100% sure that half of them will die before the end of the manga.

It's just another happy shounenshit adventure for the jrpg crew, when suddenly some of griffiths monions pop out off nowhere and kill serpico, isidoro and Azan in one attack. Guts would instantly loose his shit, put on the berserker armor and start running for griffiths little city.

A demon is a demon as will become apparent, but Zodd isn't that bad for one.

He's pretty *clang*

I think he just changed his tone. To be honest I don't think nkre gruesome shit would be effective at all. It happened, we all had the shock, now it's pretty much a darker golden age again. It'll be mystery if anything. I think that's partly the reason for the original episode three in this anime, him writing it tells me he didn't like the horse as much in the first place.

Collecting souls for energy.

i suspected it had something to do with her monotheistic religious background preventing her from seeing supernatural creatures, but I wasn't sure since she makes reference to blasphemy and heresy a lot implying that she might be at least aware of their existence.

Zodd does not harm humans who aren't soliders, he follows a code of honor and he is all around a great guy, although a little blood/battle thirsty (like a true berserker). The thing is, we don't know who he sacrificed to become like this. I hope we never find out, since it would make him more of a villain if we knew who he screwed over to achieve his current power.

It's not really clear. The priest was able to see Puck, but in the manga there are like 16 volumes between that guy and Farnese so it could also be a change in writing.

Oh just boys being boys, it takes me back to the good old days. There's more doujin of guts and griffith then one can possibly imagine, and it might as well be cannon

That's a good theory.

But energy for what? Also, he doesn't even have to sacrifice any of them. People die every day, and he sends them to hell. His city is like a giant battery. New Humans are born, while the old die and get sent to hell.

He was a powerful warrior who was so strong no one could beat him, so he sacrificed his strength. Then became even more powerful. Shitty deal.

>he didn't like the horse as much in the first place.
TRAITOR!

Hang him!

He used Guts and Casca to facilitate him getting that body. They manipulated him into showing up and protected them for the time being.

Perhaps the priest has more experience/hard knowledge? I mean Farnese was an elite holy warrior in training so perhaps she was innocent and learned about them only in theory?

That doesn't make any sense? Then instead of his friends, Griffith could just have sacrificed his ambition to gain what he really wants. No, he had to sacrifice someone he loved.

his kitty Lion-O

Inb4 Zodd had sex with guts's mom and she was hanged because of that. And this is the reason why guys is superhumanly strong and why he and Zodd both look and act alike.

twas a joke, but on a serious note the egg apostle sacrificed his view of the world basically, a concept instead of a person. Could argue he sacrificed himself but description tells otherwise.

>current Griffith is Zodd's grandson
cute

you sound like a total tool

"now he fights for love"

but other than that i agree with you

So why the fuck is Guts' behelit blue?

Egg of the conqueror is the red one, that's a special behelit to become a godhand. Blue ones make apostles.

Who needs old man when you have your sister

It's in their name. They are the God Hand. They serve the God of Evil or whatever its name was. We don't know yet what this god wants.

They don't serve it, it just made it possible for them to exist. Also seems it just wants chaos as it's the manifestation of evil ideas, doesn't seem to be some plot behind it.

They're called the God "HAND" but they don't serve that god? I'm pretty sure they're preparing for something specific, just like they prepared to make Griffith the 5th member. Doesn't seem like they're spreading chaos just for the sake of it.

>managed to draw with dragonslayer+handcannon Guts
While he had the environmental advantage and prep time.
Also I doubt Guts was fighting to kill whereas with Griffith he was

Tis the general idea of what hell is

a place so forsaken that all but the worst of the worst lose themselves and become one with hell itself

>won't be another eclipse for a few hundred years

mark my words this is what the God Hand is counting on, making all their enemies assume they have a few hundred years before their endgame is enacted, but the natural order is so fucked up now and the God Hand's presence is felt so completely around the world that they can probably force an eclipse to happen at their leisure now

Guts wasn't fighting to kill if he was Griffith would be dead. Guttses sword did stop you know? I would say the main difference is the way Serpico parries not how strong he is. Not to mention how they are two different cuts from Gutts.

>What the hell is griffiths endgame?
I guess to become worshiped as The Jesus of the Berserk Universe.
Have Guts show up to be the big bad Black Swordsmen who's up to no good that he'll eventual have to

>he was fighting to kill his best friend in a mock swordfight , but he totally didn't want to kill a random guy who had been pestering him for a while.

No

this is pretty much case closed.
Serpico>Griffith