Honestly I know hindsight can be 20/20 but it seems like having an open air concert overlooked by large hotels where...

Honestly I know hindsight can be 20/20 but it seems like having an open air concert overlooked by large hotels where you would have been free from retaliatory gunfire should have been an idea that occurred to someone. Maybe some metal detectors during the nights leading up to the concert? I doubt any blame will be directed at Department of Homeland Security for this one.

>metal detectors
Think about it. Ever since the shooting began the same dumb fucking question keeps coming up that only a retard would ask...
>"durr how did he get all dem gumz up der?"
Easy answer, bags you fucking moron.
They want you to think about lack of security, metal detectors.
>john was right

Most concerts I've been to don't have large buildings with views overlooking outdoor concerts and I'm going to go on a limb and say they're zoned that way for exactly this kind of eventuality.

You are a shill

The words "metal detectors" gave it away

Some one explain how he broke the windows without anyone noticing?

the mandala bay is shown at exactly the 32 second mark of the route 91 harvest promo vid. coincidence?

Metal detectors is the entire conspiracy you dumbfuck.

He probably only busted them open a very short time before he started shooting. 32 floors up the sound might not be heard, especially at night with a concert going on 1 block away. In one of the pictures from the room, there's a heavy hammer on the floor near the curtains. Even if someone on the ground noticed glass falling, that's all a moot point 30 seconds later when he starts shooting.

what about the falling shards man...

I'm sorry I don't spend all day reading the rantings of schizophrenic NEETs. How exactly is screening for firearms in hotel rooms overlooking large groupings of people a bad thing?

To my knowledge, no one else has done this. We can't conduct city planning and structure our lives around hypothetical situations a terrorist might use against us. If we did, then we would never have built skyscrapers out of fear someone might try to fly a plane into them, or make cars for fear that someone might drive them through a crowd.

You can't terrorist proof everything, trying to do so is an effort in futility. The most effective response is to find and kill the terrorist.

Time to research event organizers. live nation CEO HRC.

I'm not certain about this hotel specifically, but usually these high rises have the first floor extend farther out than the rest of the tower. In part so if glass or anything else should fall off the tower it smacks into an unoccupied gravel roof, rather than a city street of pedestrians.

they are expensive, and all the money we are going to spend on them is going to go strait into some already rich mother fucker's pocket, and it's also another way for the government come in and slip it's cock just a little bit deeper into your everyday life.

>Metal Detectors at a hotel
>In a state where carrying is legal

Not happening.

This has happened once.
You want every hotel patron to be penalised for eternity because of a once off event?

Fuck off.

>To my knowledge, no one else has done this.
JFK and, That guy who climbed a clocktower and just started shooting at people at random. This shit should have been planned for.

You can enact any restrictions you want on private property.

No. Absolutely fucking no. It's a private business and the government has no right to make them install anything.

Literally this. Had to roll my eyes so hard at my coworker saying that Vegas hotels will have to all have security scans now. It's the hospitality industry. Notwithstanding the massive logistical nightmare that would cause, hotel guests do not want to be molested by searches.

You're describing half the Vegas Strip. I want to know why it took 72 minutes for them to bring the guy down. Everyone is praising the cops for their "bravery" in what seemed like a sluggish response that got more people killed.

Sage and gfy

And watch as any hotel that molests their guests with metal detectors and searches goes out of business overnight. Good thing autists don't run casinos.

>muh metal detectors
t. cia shill

Yes, there is a wider base around the first floor or two of the mandalay.

I found some new information guys.

>It's the hospitality industry

If there's any hotel that does decide to go full TSA style anal probe, they're now in the hostiltality business.

>I want to know why it took 72 minutes for them to bring the guy down.

He booked the rooms at the very end of the wing of the hotel. With the cameras he had setup, he could see anybody coming, and had already shot through the door to injure a security guard.

The only thing in hindsight about the vegas incident I dont understand is how do they not keep snipers on the roofs at all times. I've seen events in texas that have a fraction of the regular turn out on the strip keep snipers up n down their own strip. A roof placed sniper could have neutralized him by he end of the first volley

They never should have zoned a concert so close to a major hotel unless they could guarantee the security of the people in the concert.

What a scoop!

WHAT COULD IT MEAN
THE OFFICIAL STORY NEVER MENTIONED ANY "SKY"

This guy had two airplanes.

For pure body count, a plane filled with explosives or combustibles crashing into that crowd of 22,000 at a low angle would have topped 9/11 numbers.

The security guard killed paddock before the shooting, then used him as a false culprit. This dude wasn't smart enough to put up security cameras and obtain weapons. The security guard did the shooting, self injured his leg. The gunshots stop after the security guard is discovered. Why would the dude stop? He had plenty of weapons and ammo.

>tfw you now have to wait ten more fucking minutes for check in

Someone find the identity of this security guard

PUT IN THE SCREENCAP, SOMEONE GET THIS TO REDDIT

Either the hotel or the concert venue has to move then.

You put the TSA at a hotel checkin or cameras in peoples rooms and America would be worse than pretty much everywhere

>How exactly is screening for firearms in hotel rooms overlooking large groupings of people a bad thing?

Designated free music zones?

Carrying a guitar near a group of more than 5 people is now a felony.

still salty that they took your guns after Port Arthur huh

He probably had hotel staff carry them up for him.

Nothing the commerce clause can't handle

You can prevent every conceivable freak occurrence. If there were no buildings, he could have placed bombs around a venue where that would be feasible or something.

Do you know how big the strip is? They would need multiple snipers on EACH casino rooftop to ensure all areas are covered. Trained, police or military snipers don't exactly grow on trees either, and they would need several hundred of them to cover a 24 hour shift.
There's also the fact that nothing like this has ever happened, we can't protect against every eventuality. If a drunk Canadian rides a flaming moose into a mardi gras crowd and then detonates the explosives sequestered in his and the moose's ass killing dozens you can hardly blame the city of New Orleans for not having trained moose hunters on hand to prevent such an event.

Well that one guy did say this was all some plot to install metal detectors everywhere.

I can't tell if you're just making a joke or not but Casino CCTV cameras can probably account for the security guards exact location during the whole shooting

The question should be how did one man bring up 20 guns in cAses, mags/clips, and ammo without drawining any suspicion from other guests or staff?
I find this very hard to believe that you could walk into any hotel with this much firepower with no questions asked

>snipers on the roofs at all times
Militarize the city? Private army? Make the entire downtown a fenced in gaming gulag?

In Vegas it is completely normal to see adults carrying gun cases along with other luggage into hotels and resorts.
>(sluggish response)
You've obliviously never gone to Vegas let alone during a fucking music festival

Do you realize the kinds of security that would be necessary to have prevented this? Essentially metal detectors in every hotel within a mile - every time someone goes in and out. Works at the airport because you only go through once per trip, but in Vegas? Where everyone is shitfaced? Fucking forget it

>The question should be how did one man bring up 20 guns in cAses, mags/clips, and ammo without drawining any suspicion from other guests or staff?

Vegas is the largest convention city in the world.
Guests with large heavy cases would be a normal sight. But still, between weapons and ammo, he could easily have 300 pounds of stuff. That didn't happen in one trip.

>Carrying a guitar near a group of more than 5 people is now a felony.

Ownership of a "high capacity" 12 string guitar now needs an extensive background check, and licensing by the National Endowment for the Arts.

Picture is an example of an instrument to be classified as a "dangerous musical device", only available for military and police purposes.

Not bags, Golf Club bag cases. Vegas is filled with middle aged white guys carrying around giant ass hard case containers that there golf club bag can fit inside. You will see dozens of them every time you enter a hotel, they staff will even assist you in carrying them to the elevator and too your room.
He could have easily got all those guns to his room in those golf case containers, probably in less than half a dozen trips, maybe more depending on how much ammo he brought.

Not to mention full prohibition of assault instruments.

>gee, if only we could do anything other than stop the spread of high powered weapons whose only use is the extinguishing of human life

Yeah I exhibit at NAB, we do this convention every year with trucks full of pelican cases.
I personally bring my camera case, suit case, and backpack to my room every year. Most other guests are in the same boat and they always make me open my camera case because it looks like a gun case or would be holding something illegal or valuable.

>>gee, if only we could do anything other than stop the spread of high powered weapons whose only use is the extinguishing of human life

We did. The Clinton's lost.

>Endowment for the Arts
NPR pls go

Whens the last time someone killed 59 people with a musical instrument? This analogy is such an abortion

Clearly, all weapons of mass distortion are to be forbidden under existing human rights laws.

I've seen it done in texas up n down the entire strip on south padre island.

>Whens the last time someone killed 59 people with a musical instrument? This analogy is such an abortion

Pointing out absurdity by being absurd is not the same as analogy.

The fact that you need to be spoon fed this, means you have no business being here.

Some other user said they would be shilling for these metal detectors lol.

There's a logical reason why people call for guns to be banned, its because of massacres like this. That makes it a far less absurd proposition than banning musical instruments would be, which is just nonsense.

If you can't analyze both sides of the debate and instead write the whole thing off as absurd then you're just a biased faggot with no critical thinking skills

He could have simply parked outside of the concert in his car and sprayed the crowd and probably done nearly as much damage

>There's a logical reason why people call for guns to be banned, its because of massacres like this.

Knee jerk reaction or appeal to emotion is not logical.

If that was the case, autos, bathtubs and bicycles or elective surgery would be banned because statistically each of those is more likely to kill you than a firearm.

(((metal detectors))))

I'd like to see you kill 59 people with a bathtub

>I'd like to see you kill 59 people with a bathtub
Are rental trucks illegal? Is Kool Aid?

Someone wanting to kill people will find a way to do it. Someone wanting to get a weapon when weapons are banned will do it, also.

Pretending more laws will protect people from things already illegal is simplistic and immature.

t. michael chertoff

Last time we stayed at Venetian our luggage had to go through X-ray machine upon checkin