Why do Americans need a CCW permit again...

Why do Americans need a CCW permit again? Most of them hold up the excuse that they can and will use it in the event of a shooting.

Yet in Vegas no CCW holder shot off a single round.

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Those people were on vacation, and likely flew in. The venue was also weapon free zone. And a pistol is ineffective at those distances. Nice bait though.

>dood shootin from 400+ meters
>good thing I allways carry my handgun, accurate to 50m

>starts shooting wildly towards occupied hotel
>dozens of innocent people hit in random ass locations by handgun rounds
>because I forgot my concealed carry fuckin sniper rifle

faggot.

>400+ meters

*1800 meters.

concealed handguns are successfully used 2 million times per year in the US

cherry picking one rare sniper scenario doesn'tdisprove or change those facts

I live in NH.
I don't even need a license to C&C. Just needed to qualify to own a handgun.
I can also bring it to Maine and Vermont and no fucks given.
Oh, and we're 3 of the 5 lowest states for gun violence. Who knew?

>OP doesn't know about the high ground

it was about 400 meters, you retarded piece of dogshit.

>Why do Americans need a CCW permit again?

The jewish gun lobby wants to sell more.

Niggers and liberals who are terrified of guns.

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because no CCW holder was near the shooter when it happened, you fucking idiot.

not even high power rifles took out Charles W.
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I'm gonna be honest with you OP.
It's because of niggers and meth heads.

I CC and don't have a permit.

Feels good when you have a badge.

a better question is why do I even need a permit to have a gun under my shirt when I can carry it openly in a holster without a permit.

This. No one even knew where the shots were coming from.

Are you a cop? How many kangz have you killed?

I agree, CCW permits shouldn't be a thing. You should be able to conceal carry as freely as you can open carry, without needing a license.

SHALL

I think that traditionally, concealing meant that you were intending to commit a crime and didn't want others to know you were carrying.

Maybe nobody there was armed because it was a no gun zone.
Maybe a handgun is useless vs a sniper with an m249.

Yah, I agree, CCW permits really are an infringement. I should be able to conceal without one in all honesty.

Mass shootings account for a tiny fraction of the overall crime in the US. Muggings/burglaries/rapes are much more likely and a concealed firearm is very effective in defending yourself against this. Every year thousands of citizens defend themselves successfully against aggression.

You have to be a total dipshit to advocate this line of argument. Just because CC doesn't render you completely invulnerable doesn't mean it's worthless. Obviously if someone chooses to shoot you with a high powered rifle from a long distance away a concealed pistol is not going to do you much good. That doesn't erase all of the very good reasons people have to concealed carry, not least of which is the natural (or God given if you will) right to defend your own life. You would have to be a simpleton to not understand this. Meanwhile in our draconian shithole of a nation, body armour and pepper spray are totally illegal. Another win for the good goys hey.

It's unfortunate that crime happens so often that we need guns to defend ourselves. It shows me that we have other social or economic issues to tackle to really reduce gun related crime.

Look aussie fag, there has been a hundred threads about this, pulling out your EDC handgun is gonna do you jack shit against someone 600 m away in an elevated position. You'd end up hitting some pregnant lady in the next room over or some shit.

CCW are for self defense, not engaging a marksman firing hundreds of rounds from 200 yards away and 32 stories in the sky dipshit. Handguns don't work like in your Anime.

>Yah, I agree, CCW permits really are an infringement. I should be able to conceal without one in all honesty.

:)

>in Vegas no CCW holder shot off a single round.

It's going to be a bitch carrying this around all the time now, let alone trying to conceal it.

>ccw
>implying a handgun would even be effective at 1500 meters
go back to school you dense faggot

>Yet in Vegas no CCW holder shot off a single round.

Gun free venue, you ignorant fuck.

Second, if anyone had, little shits like you would shit yourselves over that too. "OMG THEY FIRED AT AN OCCUPIED HOTEL!" ...and in this case you would even have a point.

If you are under machine gun fire from an elevated position from 300m+ and all you have is a handgun, you need to fuck off. Not stay there, not fire rounds into god knows what, but fuck off. Like you should from the thread.

>Why do Americans need nukes again? Most of them hold up the excuse that they can and will use it in the event of a NK missile test.

>Yet in NK no nukes were deployed.

400 meters, but you're right about the effectiveness of a handgun at those ranges.

Except it wasn’t. It was 400 yds.- 1,100ft. Now who’s the retard? I’m sure you were only pretending

>sniper
>M249

Fucking hell britain

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I heard 2 or 3 guns.

Quit with goddamn metric shit, boy. We shoot in football fields in Murcia. 400 yards, less actually- 1,100ft. So 370 yds give/take. But yeah.

Firing a handgun back at the shooter you have a pretty good chance of hitting a innocent mainly because the shooter is surrounded by potentially occupied rooms. That would be a very irresponsible thing to do as a gun owner.

surely, you aren't THAT stupid...

IT WAS A GUN FREE ZONE YOU KIKE FUCKING SHILL DEMOCRATS MADE IT ILLEGAL TO CARRY GUNS IN THAT AREA!!! FOR FUCKS SAKE WHY ARE ALL FOREIGNERS SO FUCKING OPINIONATED AND SO STUPID??!!!!

>IT WAS A GUN FREE ZONE

My bullshit dector went off.

>redneck concert
>no guns

Godfuckingdammit would everyone please fucking stop with the 800m, 600m shit? It was 1,100-1,200 FEET. SO 400 YARDS. 4 FUCKING FOOTBALL FIELDS.

>>Yet in Vegas no CCW holder shot off a single round.

OK bitches!

I'm fucking ready now!!!

Governments are far far more dangerous than terrorists, criminals and insane people. In the 20th century governments killed 262,000,000 innocent people. These are not warriors opposing one another but non combatant civilians. Homicides totaled 8.5 million that’s 3% the number killed by governments. The second amendment was not created so we could protect ourselves against intruders it was created so we could defend ourselves against tyrannical governments. Before any government tries to kill off a portion of its population it will try to disarm them first. In America there are about 300 million guns in private hands, more guns than adults. “You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.” Weather or not the quote attributed to Isoroku Yamamoto was genuine the sentiment is valid. Fire arms are deeply ingrained in our culture and heritage. The right to bear arms and form militias is enshrined in our constitution and shall not be infringed. That does not mean you can infringe a little here or there regardless if liberals assert it to be “common sense”.

A^2+B^2=C^2
300 ft height at window. 1,100ft to the center of the square. Fucking hell, burgerbro

retarded cuck

Yet in millions of defensive shootings, CCW holders are there defending themselves.


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>WHY ARE ALL FOREIGNERS SO FUCKING OPINIONATED AND SO STUPID??!!!!
they learn from the best amurican fampai

Those three states also have extremely low melanin content.

Where did you want them to shoot you fucking cunt? They didn't know where the shots were coming from you hobbit.

>Why do Americans need a CCW permit again? Most of them hold up the excuse that they can and will use it in the event of a shooting.
>Yet in Vegas no CCW holder shot off a single round.
how do you propose someone with a pistol shoot at a guy on the 32nd floor of a building across the street?

>Yet in Vegas no CCW holder shot off a single round.
It was a gun free zone, and the dude was in a location where it would be extremely difficult to return fire with a weapon that could be concealed.

Also, I don't need a CCW permit. My state is permitless.

I got you senpai

G8 B8 look at all these replies

Here's that (you)

NOT

>safely engaging what is effectively a sniper from 200+ meters away sitting in a hotel full of people
>with a pistol
not happening

BE

>400 meters
>handgun
>Australia
>he thinks he can give any sort of take on this topic
Why am I not surprised?

>all these jealous down undertards

thats right straylia, you will never know what it's like to wield true independence from tyranny


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Sage

Someone there had a weapon.
Just nothing to shoot at.
But, had the shooter been on the ground, there would have been return fire without a doubt.

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