How depressing is the situation in the west?

How depressing is the situation in the west?
Is there actually a group in the west that protects its countries values without being globalist?
Its interesting to watch the european identitarians but I was kinda triggered that nobody was outraged on youtube that the leader of the austrian identitarian group is now in a relationship with pettibone and making videos from his car embracing the burgers.
Whats up with that. How can you seriously talk about defending your country if you go for a road trip with your american girlfriend while refugees keep swarming in. wtf

That and that they seemed to buy into the whole its just "skin color" thing.
In the past people talked about the "balkanization" etc. Today I guess poles they would be considered fellow whites.
How is a a french guy compatible with italy or germany or sweden for example.

I get that you can blend everything remotely similar together to somehow save "white culture". But its just sad that so much will get lost.
I cant imagine japan melting together with china for example. Its crazy.
Its really only 1 step away from the jews NWO agenda isnt it.

So is there actually a group out there fighting for your countries cultural and ethnical heritage?
I mean it seems really bleak to me. Hope I'm wrong. But it looks like at best you get a melting together of everything thats "white".

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>schnitzeld

We're legitimately fucked until some cataclysm or another. Ride the tiger with a knife to his throat for when he's tired of running

Why do peor follow Pettibon/Southern like they're actually smart and their opinion matters or makes a difference?

They're just attention grabbing whores who know the onlg reason people watch them os because of their looks, not the red pills they cant even dish.

>two white people get together
>REEEE globalism

kill yourself retard

The harsh truth is no. All groups Sup Forums accepts as 'fighting for our interests' are cucked at some level, complete with their various legions of shills and detractors. Not to mention what they are is little more than a new political elite networking in their youth and using their internet popularity to screw each other in hotel rooms while they travel the world and wax philosophic.

The black pill is not a choice.

I tried to explain it in the first post but my english isnt good so it might have been hard to understand.

I try again:
I think americans have a real problem with their identity. You dont have a ethnical history.
So all you do is seperate people according to color. White,black,yellow,brown.
How is that not a loss of culture?

How is american and austrian history even remotely comparable?
Dont you see how crazy that is.
Sure there might be a similar origin because many imigrants to america were germans, but you can keep going further back and end up with the "one race".

I really only see that thinking only with americans or west europeans.
East-europeans are suprisingly different.
This thinking is a real cancer.

A consequence of the identity politics pushed by the left - which put all whites into one corner - is that there now we really see a global white identity emerging. Sup Forums is the best proof of that.

You think there might be a way to turn this around after a collapse? At least I see people becoming more anti-liberal.

Knew a german guy from work who complains about abe and how japanese tv is so right-wing. Even though in my opinion its too lefty.
Anyway, 2 years ago when I asked him if he minded a majority islam he said "its a democrazy here, so be it".
Same with sharia law. Guy is married.

So now 2 years have passed and he is training martial arts and says he is afraid of the refugees in trains. They are everywhere. His wife cant go outside alone.
Mind you, he lives countryside.

But I just dont think there is enough time.
My german is not good so I dont know the details, but there is an german author who says islam doubles every 20 years.
So if you stop all immigration now in 40 years almost all of europe will be islam anyway.

Douglas murray, trump, etc. they all talk about "slowing down" immmigration.
But it doesnt just need to be slowed down or stopped.
It needs to be reversed and there are not that many choices.
Most humanre might be paying them to leave or practice birth control like the nurnberg laws with hitler.
But that would probably only lead to violence anyway.

Thats just so watered down though.
Why not fight together but be seperate. With that you are playing into the judens hands. Wouldnt be suprised if they are rubbing their hands at this.

When invaded by brown hordes we of course need to band together with people who might have been enemies before, like slavs, on the basis of at least a common skin color and somewhat common culture. We have bigger fish to fry than fighting each other now.

>So if you stop all immigration now in 40 years almost all of europe will be islam anyway.
You seem to forgot Europeans have tendencies to sperg out every once in a while.

>inb4 some Amerishart comes in with his usual bullshit non-arguments
Europeans have it too good atm to go complete Hitler. Give it time.

Every public figure, "spreading awareness" kind of individual is in it for their own reasons, not to actually save their culture. Sellner is an e-celeb who exploits patriots for money.

The only thing that matters in this world is sexual intercourse. The shit skins want to invade our lands to fuck our women. The white trash want to prevent immigration because they'd have less women to fuck. The women want tankte immigration because they want more exotic men to fuck. The sceptics, identitarians and YouTube patreon whores are all into this business to find fuck partners. The woman's vagina controls the world, user. Honorable men in the past tried to stop this by promoting traditionalism and family and elevating the position of a woman to a mother. But the world is far too degenerate and filthy to embrace such ideals. The third Reich was the last rampart against this demonic world. All is lost.

I'm not talking about fighing each other.
Fight together, but accept that you are not the same.

>on the basis of at least a common skin color and somewhat common culture
That sounds just really sad really...
So anybody with white enough skin and barley related culture can join?
So what are you proud of exactly. Serious question.What do you want to protect.

You might be right.
But didnt hitler himself say that with the war also germany will be over? Because all the good men died fighting.
That and the massive rape of russia afterwards.
I'm not sure the germans today are capable of doing that.
They all seem to have that "at least as it doesnt go worse" attitude. But even if it get worse they still use it!

East europe is different though.I dont think islam can fuck with them.

Hmm, maybe.
Did he actually release the logbook of the ship and the details where the money went like he said?
Never saw that happening even though he promised it multiple times.

>How is a a french guy compatible with italy or germany or sweden for example.

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>The white trash want to prevent immigration because they'd have less women to fuck.
Well I'm not so sure.
I think many woke up because their standart of living really declined and they dont have much freedom anymore.
Actually the most germans I talked with have no problem that their women get laid with black people or turks.
They dont seem to care at all so TV really fucked their brain. Most of them dont even want children but they seem to mind the overall loss in quality of life and their entertainment bubble threatened.

>Honorable men in the past tried to stop this by promoting traditionalism and family and elevating the position of a woman to a mother.
I think thats absolutely true.
Being a mother was something very powerfull too.
Hitler realized that as well when he said if you want to change a society you need to start with women. Because they shape the children and with that the next generation of men.

No need for financial transcripts. It's common practise. You have to understand that the average European is a lot more, put plainly, selfish, than the Japanese. Even Romanians, who in some aspects tend more toward the group-focused mentality of the Japanese are extremely individualistic. The basic rule is "I got mine, so fuck everyone else". To cooperate we have to see a way to profit individually from it. Hence Sellner's primary objective is his own well-being.

This way of thinking about things has its plusses and minuses.

>hitler himself say
Only Sup Forums fucktards care what some loser said. Hitler made several critically stupid decisions which costed his whole nation it's pride and victory.

Thanks for the map. Thats really interesting!
Its obvious though that an italian is more close to french than a turk.
I mean I get it.
Still thats a pretty big red area that would all blend together. Its really sad. And thats only the dna part right.

Thanks, that was interesting to read.

>>This way of thinking about things has its plusses and minuses.
Yes thats true. I think group-focused mentality works if there is also a balance and you have boundaries of the group.
Cant take care of everybody.

>No need for financial transcripts. It's common practise.
I think its really deeply ingrained in japanese that if you do not good it will be returned to you.
Its really rare that you would make a scam of this scale here.
Even a thief is really rare.

Why?
>Hitler made several critically stupid decisions which costed his whole nation it's pride and victory.
Sure, thats true. I dont think he is a god or something.
I think he had alot of good things to say though, I like his speeches.
Definitely an impressive man if you look how he uplifted germany of a huge depression and degeneracy that got the juden upset.

Also
>Because all the good men died fighting.
This is also very stupid thing to say. Most of those 'good men' most likely had kids and the offspring of those is alive today.

>Sellner

HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>thats only the dna part right
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixation_index
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This is the unfortunate reality of globalization. Even if we manage to defend the West, we will have a hard time defending local identities.
It's still better than getting mixed to hell with niggers and arabs, but still quite sad.

Sorry but what is your picture supposed to show?

Y-chromosome haplogroups
Nothing concerning Fst really, but useful if you want to look at the ancestry of a group of peoples.

>but useful if you want to look at the ancestry of a group of peoples.
Got it. I wasnt sure if you wanted to make a statement with the picture.
Thanks for explaining.

>Its really rare that you would make a scam of this scale here.
It's not a scam though. No one expects Sellner to fight immigrants or form civil militia deportation forces. He's a marketeer, and everyone only expects that from him, which is why they donate money to him.

Business, not theft.

I dont really get that. So its like entertainment?
What do people expect of sellner.

>I cant imagine japan melting together with china for example. Its crazy.
You're already all the same to us anyway.

its aight

>So its like entertainment?
Yes.
>What do people expect of sellner.
Publicity stunts. Dressing Maria Theresia's statue in a burka. Stuff like that. We expect him to make noise about the issue. What he does in his private time who his girlfriend is and so on, all that is his own business.

Cause they're retards. This cunt has added nothing to any discussion and is a "traditionalist" larper. That said, she isnt retarded, she knows lonely losers will be good goys and donate and defend her. Just wait and see these broads in the future. Hopefully we all dont have to see that time come.

>asks a question
>answers it
The perfect woman indulges in literature just as she indulges in a small sin: as an experiment, in passing, looking around to see if anybody notices it — and to make sure that somebody does.

Even the thing with the volunteer ship in the Mediterranean was a massive publicity stunt. You cannot seriously expect one ship to make a dent in the human trafficking that was going on. The NGOs had tens of ships available. But it did its job. It drew attention to the issue in the media, people started to talk about it, and politicians could not ignore the issue any more.

That was part of the reason why the Italian government decreed that every NGO must be accompanied by a state official.

Sellner can be in it for selfish reasons. But as long as it's working, no one will care.

Also, here's another thing Jap bro:
Europeans have always been very cosmopolitan. People in Europe have moved between each other's countries all the time. The hard nationalism did not exist before the 19th century. In Romania there used to live Germans, Italians, Serbs, Russians etc.
Even today there are still a lot of Hungarians living in Romania.

The only Japanese-style homogenous countries in Europe were in Scandinavia. Sweden, Norway, Denmark. The rest of Europe has been multi-ethnic since Roman times.

That's an aspect that complicates matters. We are very open to foreigners. Unless you're a criminal, people will welcome anyone with open arms. The Japanese are not like that in my experience.

Fuck off gypsy

>Republic of the Seven United Netherlands
>multi ethnic
ok

>coward hiding behind a meme flag
Lick my balls slave.

What? Europeans only shifted to urban centers after the industrial revolution, until then europe had been a rural continent since the many invasions after the roman empire fell
For many their village was literally their world

>what is Frisia
There's also that little tidbit of history where you used to be a part of Spain, lowlands faggot.

White nationalism is stupid

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You are wrong. Northern Italy for example has ALWAYS been highly urbanised. But that doesn't matter regardless, since I was not talking about urbanisation. Mitteleuropa has been extremely multiethnic for over 1000 years. Even countries with central governments that were stronger than the norm in Europe, like France, have been multi-ethnic (see Bretons, Occitans, Normans, Germans in Alsace and Lorraine etc).

>comparing Europeans mixing to China/Japan

I mean you faggots were killing each other for years just like they were and only in the past few years have you done this whole peace and love unity we are all the same race bullshit.

A Pole is not an Englishman, yet under white nationalism he would be considered equal to one. Fuck off. If you think an Albanian and a Nord are the same, I don't know what to say.

Sardinians confirmed not whites?

Also Austro-Hungarian empire, for example, was pretty much "little EU", lots of people moved to different countries for work, study, and other reasons, even to the shitty little countries since art, architecture, engineering, various technical and cultural professions, etc. were all viable (and people spoke multiple languages).

i'll put this for you into perspective ...

to us you JP, KOR, NK, and even some Chinese
look all the same to us

... similar with whites - does it even matter?

Russian, Austrian, German, Hungarian whatever - if their white they're alright.

^ Once that off the table - ideology ...

oh, right ... as for culture - too late for that ... only culture will be to keep sand/niggers and their warring ideology - islam at bay, whilte having to struggle with the less pure and niggish "europeans"

North Italy is an exeption on it's own due to their rich history
Europe after the fall of Rome has seen many of those ethnicities, now divided, joining up and forming governaments, eventually joining forces or conquering others (like the castilans did to basques and catalans), but it was in separate kingdoms back then without the fisical presence of the new countrymen on their villages due to mass immigrantion, wich was more reserved to certain towns and more as a consequence of rural-urban immigrantion (in times of agricultural surplus) than some sort of colonization
Spain might have been formed in 1475, but castile still was castilan untill 1700, like catalunya was also catalan..
France was the sime, despite having bretons, ocitans, french.. only around the 18-19 century you had the mix up into a sole national identity
Portugal is an example to of a millenia old country whose most notable minority are gypsies making around 0.5% of our population, thats why we claim the status of oldest nation-state of europe

Not just the Habsburg empire. The Same was true in the Russian empire (even the European side was multiethnic, and Russia still is very multi-ethnic). the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. The Holy Roman Empire.

For me at least they don't. They have way more overlapping trades but still they don't look all the same.

can you tell Poles from Hungarians or Russians or Germans apart?

unless their wearing clothes and have if any few distinct stereotypical traits "Benzinkanister-Rübe"

I don't disagree. But keep in mind that Portugal is the exception that proves the rule. Twice exceptional, since Portugal has maintained remarkably constant borders over the centuries.

I don't agree about the physical separation thing. It was not true even in Spain, and it was very pronounced in Mitteleuropa. Also keep in mind that language =/= ethnicity. Sure, lnguages usually maintained regional stickiness, but people moved about. The degree varied between countries, sure, but on a global scale, like I said, Europe has always been very cosmopolitan.

There hasn't been a time in Europe, ever, without some form of transnational organisation, be it political, military, or commercial (like the Hanseatic League, for example).

I agree, but i think it was something that grew in to us progressively
Usually at first you only want the best moving in to your land, and you would have to dispute them with the nobles and local clergy that owned them as serfs, i think that it was with higger centralization in a central authority that it shifted to higger mobility

I can. Sometimes I confuse Russians with Poles but mostly I can. But Hungarians look totally different.

For me Chinks don't look like Nippons

yeah i'm sure it depends ...

putting that aside anyone with white or better iq (Asians) can be taught to appreciate or at least respect a given set of values ...

Finnish almost outside the red circle