Thoughts on Aldous Huxley?

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So based it’s kind of scary.

did he ever share his political views?

Not that I know of but I think he wouldn’t support any governments therefore wouldn’t care about political solutions.
Perfectly understandable. There just used to control people for votes to remain in power. Like the old American saying goes “no matter who you vote for the government always get in”

Wikipedia had a quote from one of the Nazis about how it was easy to take a nation to war by using fear and maybe something else. Anyone know who that was?

This one?

Maybe (hopefully not) anarchist, or monacrhist, anarcho-monarchist?

I doubt he was a monarchist tho. He just seems apolitical

this seems like the most obvious sentiment ever but blown up

thinking about that quote just makes me sad

The Perenneial Philosophy is 10/10

See why I said he’s so based it’s kind of scary?
He probably was an anarchist but you can’t really put a label on a man who is free.

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The future will likely be more brave new world than 1984 but it will still be both. He is correct on media and distractions that keep people in control.

Huxley and Orwell were pretty much wrong about everything they predicted yet they are viewed as prophets by intellectual lightweights.

hahah i see it now

the huxley family were high ranking elites
he knew, he was an insider

by releasing the plan you think people are warned and now know to avoid it? of course not, if anything people now expect it. and when you expect something to happen you're more likely to give in to it as an inevitable. the idea of successful resistance will seem more and more a pipe dream as the full details of the plan are layed out for you.

brave new world and brave new world revisted are pretty redpilled reads

Right, fear and patriotism, that was the other thing. In the runup to the Iraq War you could tell even then they were having to try too hard to justify it. People are herd creatures sometimes.

The only good thing he wrote was brave new world.

Started as a nationalist, became a leftist later in life.

More people need to read Kant's political writings (just get the Cambridge version)
Role theory is probably the best explanation of how societal elites have, will and always did attempt to control human beings
We're all stuck in the Great World-Drama, but it is possible to change the script

have you read some of his other stuff? i have not so idk

Do you have source on his political views

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What did he or his brother mean by this

How so?

read this

>muh intellectual lightweights
>t. literalist dipshit who thinks that cautionary tales are predictions

Well, he certainly saw it coming.

>So based it’s kind of scary.
he's not fucking based lol his family was part of the elite, his brother was the first head of UNESCO

Aldous Huxley was an evil satan worshipping son of a bitch like the rest of them. he was one of the engineers of the system, hence "Brave New World"

oh and his brother wrote a book about Transhumanism

They were right about pretty much everything. Their vision just took a while longer to materialize. Getting there though. Very soon, too.

>Huxley and Orwell were pretty much wrong about everything they predicted yet they are viewed as prophets by intellectual lightweights.
no, you don't understand. Huxley's book is a blueprint. it's not a prediction, it's a design

Orwell, not so much, although he was in the same circles. I think he actually wanted to fight back against the system, as opposed to creating it

prob wont but thanks

His brother headed up the UN for a while, he supported this kind of shit, the Huxleys are one of the elite families.

And more trinkets for less economic freedom, lest we forget. Sure you're financially tracked behind closed doors by collusion all your life, sure a select cabal of corporations own 80% of your economy, but look at this new phone they made for you.

do it

saved, thanks user

heard of most of them but that's a nice list and a basic gestalt too

>Aldous Huxley was an evil satan worshipping son of a bitch like the rest of them. he was one of the engineers of the system, hence "Brave New World"

what in gods name are you talking about

>His brother headed up the UN for a while, he supported this kind of shit, the Huxleys are one of the elite families.
DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER

i will look into it for sure

He was actually smarter than George Orwell.

Can't recommend Propaganda by Edward Bernays enough.

Gulag Archipelago has suddenly become pressingly relevant, as well. It's basically an inside look into the mindset of every street leftist, and details their future reaction to being eaten by the system they're cheering for now. It was exactly the same in 1920.

Inflaming the passions is the best way to keep a population peacefully subjugated, it was a common observation of the ancient Greeks
Augustine also observed that it's ultimately self destructive to a society and blamed the fall of Rome on this way of thinking

Aldous Huxley's father was known as "Darwin's bulldog", their family was super tied into the eugenics movement. Julian Huxley, his brother, was the first of the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) and wrote a book about how transhumanism was the future

and Huxley of course wrote Brave New World and other books, and once actually gave a speech in like '61 to a group of college kids talking about how none of them would see the revolution coming even as he told them abou tit

throughout his life he adjusted his world views, sometimes quite drastically
before WW2 he was strong advocate of pacifism, disillusioned with what happend he moved on to mysticism
keep in mind he had encounter with (((Hollywood))), his brother was the first dIrector of Unesco..etc..
At the end he was heavilly influenced by (((leftist science))) and world view - notably Margaret Meads work had impact on his last utopian novel "Island" where he tried to show what would ideal savage society open to free love and drugs would look like...it's quite a garbage ,leftist intellectuals still praise it.Apart from that he is still one of the greatest thinkers of 20th century

must watch for any1 with few working brain cells
youtube.com/watch?v=3TQZ-2iMUR0

Orwell wasn't prophesying a life in western democracy. He was critiquing the Soviet Union.

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What I'm getting at is that hard totalitarianism like the Soviet Union tends to collapse as it runs against human nature and economics. Soft totalitarianism like western democracies are insidious because most people don't even realize they're being hosed.

>He was part of the elite
I think writing a book about how the elite want to manipulate the masses isn’t the best idea in the world if you want to keep it a secret. If he was apart of the elite he clearly rebelled against them in the end didn’t he?

>coincidence theories
Wrong.

I like Brave New World. 1984 is good I agree, but Brave New World was a little more with the times. Progress isnt always progress. The savage man was the most civilized.

Why keep it a secret? The globalist cabal running the world is an open secret today, it's not hard to find evidence for it yet the common pleb gives no shits.

Right, sometimes I wonder if we are getting whipped into hyper patriotism again and how that energy is going to be used.

>Sup Forums
>read Kant
You have Great Expectations.

Nice digits.

There's a great refutation of 1984 here:
newcriterion.com/issues/2015/1/a-lesson-in-newspeak

>Alarmed, I tried to explain that the world was an altogether cheerier place than Orwell, writing in 1948, could have imagined. Unrepentant socialist as he was, he never overcame his belief that the free market was doomed. He would have been stunned by the way that seventy years of exchange and specialization have served not only to make us wealthier, but to make us more autonomous.

>Instead of being watched by the state through telescreens, we carry our own screens—ones that put more information at our fingertips than an entire government department could have compiled in Orwell’s day. Big Brother has been defeated by capitalist technology.

Nice digits, my totalitarian friend.

Brave New World Revisited is a nonfictional sequel where Huxley explains how the world is going as he predicted. Sad thing is, he's wrong. See the above quote about Orwell from the New Criterion for a more accurate description of the current state of affairs in the West.

Can you back that up with some proofs?

See my reply to Russki tovarish above. In short, Huxley certainly saw his book as a prediction because he wrote that sequel Brave New World Revisited where he justifies what he wrote.

As for Orwell, be that as it may, he's still overrated as a thinker, which is what most people read him as rather than a novelist and political pamphleteer. We're not going to be reading this stuff as we leave the 20th century behind.

That's probably one of the biggest redpills there is. The NED, PR firms, think tanks, etc all operate openly for the most part. There are very few secrets. The elites hold conference, publish books, and put most of the evidence online. The average citizen is so gaslighted that they think it's paranoid to show a plan that became reality. While secrets exist and do matter enough truth is available for anyone to get the big picture.

>the common pleb gives no shits.
This. We have become used to it, the slaves will only get rid of their chains once its kick out of the lazy, confortable life he lives, he would only fight when their needs are not satisfy

I'm not sure if I indurstand what you are implying, but if you read his work - you will find out he was predicting totalitarian tyrany and collapse of society - his answer to that was decentralization and self sufficiency with proper technologies and local trade.I don't think our (((elites))) would like that. and also was big fan of birth control for 3rd world
I would say he was very close to the (((elite))) to see what might happen,but wasn't conscious part of it, except for Island(where he was just wrong because he trusted sceince which was wrong) none of his works feel like propaganda.

Thanks.

>he's still overrated as a thinker
but when you compare 1984 to reallity we live in, he saw it coming quite clearly with newspeak/doublethink/2minutes of hate/thoughtcrime/thought police/telescreen/pornosec/slogans....
1984 is not overrated, it may be misunderstood, but not overrated.

>Instead of being watched by the state through telescreens, we carry our own screens—ones that put more information at our fingertips than an entire government department could have compiled in Orwell’s day.


That sentence seems a bait a switch to me. Just because the specific method wasn't used does not refute the premise:

Instead of being watched by the state through telescreens, we carry our own screens—through which we willingly and also unknowingly provide more more information to governments and control systems than could ever have hoped to be compiled in Orwell’s day.

Most people are not paying attention whatsoever, they are mentally herded like we humans control animals. And they are controlled willingly. It's worse than could have been dared 70 years ago.

It's not propaganda, it's more like a revelation of the method. People are too domesticated and demoralized anyways, you can just publish these things out in the open, and they do, all the time.

This user is correct

Fan
Although how anyone else can call themselves a fan and not be supporting all pushes to hold police accountable for excessive uses and abuses of force, let alone all the staged body cam videos, boggles my mind.

>The globalist cabal running the world
You're a special kind of stupid, you know that?
The people that think they rule the world are themselves ruled by committee There's no ruling cabal. Just some rich idiots with delusions of grandeur. The world is run and operated in corporate boardrooms across the world, and in the offices of various "intelligence" agencies. It's been this way for a couple hundred years now, and it won't change anytime soon.
Unless, you know...
massive violent revolution.

PS: the whole left-right paradigm is as artificial as it is stupid. There's no left vs right, communism vs fascism... It's just us vs. them, rich vs. poor, humanity vs. capitalism. That's all there is. If we win, that's just fine. If they do, it means exctinction for humanity.

We are also watched by the phone btw

>the people that think they rule the world are themselves ruled by committee
And that committee is the cabal

You're a useful idiot, you fell for the class warfare meme, which is just another divide and conquer tactic.

>there are no power structures above those that are easiliy identifiable
Special kind of retard.

>We are also watched by the phone btw

Yes, that's what I was implying.

included this
>>Instead of being watched by the state through telescreens, we carry our own screens—ones that put more information at our fingertips than an entire government department could have compiled in Orwell’s day. Big Brother has been defeated by capitalist technology.
as a quote from "a great refutation of 1984"

We are watched, we are controlled. Because it is done under the guise of a free capitalist society does not make it any better than under a totalitarian regime. In fact I argue it's worse, because at least in those regimes ppl know they're fucked. In ours people are part of the problem too.

Our problem is our control is so hidden to normies, the MSM gives the illusion of not being control, and so therefore people don't believe it. They just go back to using goggle and facebook and assembling the definitive database of faces, habits, thoughts ever collected.

Data is everything. When how people as a herd can be influenced is known, then those in control can influence in the background without any of the sheep realising.

Not even close. The committees are impersonal and interchangeable, an ever-rotating menagerie of psychopaths that climbed the corpse-hill that is the corporate ladder to the top.

Whenever you read something that cause you fear or anger, remember that someone WANTED to make you feel that, and is trying to control you by making you turn on auto-pilot. The media is tightly controlled, pretty much nothing gets out on accident.

Left-wing extremists really are this stupid.

deep state spook like the rest

WWI proved that class consciousness was a meme. Classical Marxism predicted in a cataclysm that the revolution of the proletariat would occur. It turned out the proletariat had other ideas and instead fought proudly for his bosses. All of this spits in the face of Marxist eschatology.

How is that exactly different from what are we saying?
Yeah we have rich powerfull assholes who treat us like cattle yupi, call them "jew" " cabal " "reptiles " "porky " "comitee " "dinosaurs " "globalist " "niggers"

well, Thomas Henry Huxley was his grandfather:) I am a big fan of Aldous work and I beg to differ: he was warning us what lies ahead - not revealing (((their))) plan...he didn't know it as a part of the cabal..he just put probable scenarios together from pieces lying around next to him.

> muh conspiratorial view of history and society.
You have very little understanding of human nature. Especially of the humans that inhabit the upper strata of the corporate and political hierarchy. It's understandable for an autist, but let me try to enlighten you: those people are absolutely horrible at working together, let alone forming a coherent form of leadership.
If you throw a bunch of sharks in a big ol' bucket of chum they aren't going to be working together anytime soon.

Take the forgotten Deep Root scandal. A GOP consulting firm had detailed files on 200 million Americans that allowed marketing to the individual. IIRC they had 7 different issues examined per person with their views either known or estimated. In East Germany the Stasi had files on 10% of the population. In America private firms had collected detailed files on 66% of the population at least. We only know this because the Amazon servers they used had no password protection. This is the tip of the iceberg.

nydailynews.com/news/politics/200m-voters-exposed-rnc-server-data-breach-article-1.3259873

Free? He is like little baby!

WWI was too close to the golden age of nationalism to ever be relevant to class consciousness.
at least call them by the right name, man.
Nice argument there, fuckhead. Don't you have some jars of piss to sort?

>If they do, it means exctinction for humanity.
4/10 made me chuckle

>Orwell was wrong about authoritarian state socialism

Wtf are you talking about pleb, read Liam Heng's Son of the Revolution, Orwell was eerily correct

To say that in words a Marxist could understand. Marxism and Capitalism achieved a dialectical synthesis. The new marriage between Cultural Marxism and the Managerial Elites turns critical theory into an excellent tool of social control. The Managers derive value from the complexity this forces upon the system. Pink capitalism is the new ideology.

>Newspeak
There's a huge variety of high quality media out there besides shitty television. In Orwell's world there's only one source, the state news. In fact, media has gotten even better than it was in Orwell's day.

>Doublethink
This has been a problem ever since we existed as humans. Orwell just created a neologism that will fade away in time.

>The Two Minutes Hate, from George Orwell's novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, is a daily period in which Party members of the society of Oceania must watch a film depicting the Party's enemies (notably Emmanuel Goldstein and his followers) and express their hatred for them for exactly two minutes.
Does this exist anywhere except maybe North Korea?

>Thought Police
In the West, the only thought police are our own brains. But being punished for having the wrong political opinion is something that has existed for ages. In the Elizabethan era, for example, there were informers all over London that would report overheard conversations to the proper authorities to deal with them. Orwell again coining a cool-sounding neologism.

I'd break down the rest you've mentioned, but I've run out of space. Orwell was a clever journalist and novelist, but not a prophet.

Those people are looking at their phones, making plans and getting places with them better than they would without them. Therefore they are more autonomous due to the wider availability of knowledge. I can't begin to tell you how many articles I have read online while bored waiting somewhere, so having a smartphone has been mostly an edifying experience for me.

>they are mentally herded like we animals control animals
You're basically being a neckbeard because you're implying smartphone users are "sheeple."

The only danger in having a smartphone is if you're doing something subversive in a totalitarian state that has the ability to monitor your activity, in which case there's a simple solution to your problem: don't own a smartphone.

It's interesting how for a long time people thought the world would end up like 1984, but what we're discovering is that it instead much more similar to Brave New World.

Huxley experimented with psychedelics, first mescaline in 1953, then LSD in 1955. This put Huxley at the forefront of the counterculture's experimentation with psychedelic drugs, something he documented in his 1954 book, The Doors of Perception.

Huxley's experimentation continued right through his death in November 1963. When liver cancer brought him to his death bed, he asked his wife to inject him with "LSD, 100 µg, intramuscular." He died later that day tripping balls, just hours after Kennedy's assassination. His last words were recorded, and though I heard the recording years ago the only copy I can find is on YouTube and is blocked.

Three years later, LSD was officially banned in California.

It's not 1984, it's Huxley's nightmare that the Jew World Order went with.

WWI was just after the golden age of class consciousness. Marxism is now divorced from the material conditions that brought it about. Marxism was a response to an industrial and aristocratic Europe. In a diverse, post-industrial society it no longer carries the appeal. Hegelian dialectics have been co-opted by Capital.

>sheeple

his book 'Perennial Philosophy' remains an essential overview of religion required in any Religion 101 class if you want to be really educated and not just an average poltard.

Along with William James 'Varieties of Religious Experience' and Evelyn Underhill's 'Mysticism'

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Perennial_Philosophy_(book)

use hooktube whenever you have trouble

Most of it at least.

i.e. Rupert Murdoch and Fox News

Checked.

Huxley dropped high grade LSD on his death bed. Based as fuck

b-but based T-Trump

Also read Edmund Burke

>>The Two Minutes Hate, from George Orwell's novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, is a daily period in which Party members of the society of Oceania must watch a film depicting the Party's enemies (notably Emmanuel Goldstein and his followers) and express their hatred for them for exactly two minutes.
>Does this exist anywhere except maybe North Korea?

hahahah, it is the model for Fox News, Bill OReilly, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, The Savage-Weiner (tm), et al

all inducing hatred for liberals

watch and learn brainlets

youtube.com/watch?v=3TQZ-2iMUR0

>l

interesting that AA founder Bill W also did LSD many many times. AA is maybe the only real religion alive in America, i.e. that is not just an empty ritual

>Those people are looking at their phones, making plans and getting places with them better than they would without them. Therefore they are more autonomous due to the wider availability of knowledge. I can't begin to tell you how many articles I have read online while bored waiting somewhere, so having a smartphone has been mostly an edifying experience for me.


So? Of course they are, of course you do. I use technology all the time, it's great for that. What's your point? It doesn't refute anything I said.

>You're basically being a neckbeard because you're implying smartphone users are "sheeple."
I'm not and I didn't, I have one too (almost goes without saying). I was using an analogy of herding.


You've ignored my central point, that we have willingly given more control than a big brother screen could ever have hoped for, and you've responded with an irrelevant point about technology bringing good things, and an ad-hominem showing you at best misinterpreted my post.

The reason i was referring to herds is because yes, on the individual level there's no harm using a smartphone and facebook, you get to book dominos and see you friends pretending to be happy.

At the society level, it provides all the data ever needed for (someone) to control the trajectory of society.

>The only danger in having a smartphone is if you're doing something subversive in a totalitarian state that has the ability to monitor your activity, in which case there's a simple solution to your problem: don't own a smartphone.
This mentality is why we're in a worse position. at least there ppl know they have to hide shit. Here, everyone is happy to provide all the information needed so that a huge section society can be controlled without realising they are controlled.

That's not the same. By the way, your bitch lost. Get over it.

Thanks for the info I'll check it out

Nobody is in control. Those who think they are are have deluded themselves. Everything under Heaven is in a constant state of flux, and it all must eventually decay and perish just like the shattered visage of Ozymandias.

"The solemn temples, the great globe itself; the baseless fabric! Are not we such stuff, we
and this world of ours, as Dreams are made of?"