Why do nazi retards think Hitler fixed the economy when:
>Hjalmar Schacht was the one who made the initial decisions about it >the policies for economical recuperation were made by the previous government, Hjalmar Schacht just followed them >the unemployment was reduced by kicking out women from workforce, forcing people into public labor and drafting into the army >when Hitler made his major move on the economy (protectionism), the trade went from a SUBSTANTIAL SURPULUS TO A DEFICIT >the fascist corporatism is proven ineffective (even the national socialism adaption), also it didn't work in Italy (economy crumbled when the war started) and Spain almost went bankrupt an it's people would've starved if Franco didn't abolish his policies (technocrats, USA and IMF saved Spain), and then Spain experienced the Spanish Miracle >Germany spent TWICE as much than it earned >Germany's debt had risen by 400% from 1933 to 1939 >Germany was "stealing" money from it's citizens by various ""charity"" forms >workers earned LESS than they earned before 1929 >the whole GDP rise was financed by taking in endless loans >Germany forced banks and others to buy government bonds >they manipulated the currency >without war Nazi Germany would experience a huge economic collapse (it almost happened in 1938 but Nazi Germany forced the buying of it's bonds)
In short this wasn't an economic recovery, this was an economy that was made for war. Right-wingers are like communists pathetic at anything that has to do with economy.
You forgot about the massive, mind-blowing Africa-tier amounts of corruption.
Jace Hughes
Do you notice the "socialist" in nationalsocialist?
They made Jobs by buying stuff, arms, they actually couldnt afford (dept). Its a well known socialist idea. Its all over europe. How do socialist want to fix the problems? Going in dept and wasting it for short time growth/wealth.
On the other hand Germany was defacto demilitarized. There was somewhat a Point in arming up, to some level.
Daniel Morgan
the dude made an army from 1936 onwards FOR A EUROPE SPANNING WAR, do you think that would be fucking cheap ? The guy wrote in his own book that he is using the "Jew economy" for rearmament and isnt thinking about paying anything back. He wanted to make his Reich self sufficient, and didnt give a shit if he had to crush the pre existing economy since he thought it was 100% corrupt
Isaiah Cox
I know very well what he wrote and what he wanted. He knew he'd go to war before he even rose to power. This pretty much debunks two popular nazi beliefs: 1st that Hitler dindu nuffin he wanted peace 2nd Hitler created a strong economy
Aaron Young
>this was an economy that was made for war like america ?
Asher Young
Politicians fund the projects, divert monetary budgets in their image, employ professionals, legislate the laws.
You are a retard for not thinking that hitler was pivotal in that.
Samuel King
kill yourself shill
Colton Nelson
South African redditor shill detected
Cooper Torres
>I don't have any arguments against the person, must be a shill!!
David Hill
I just don't want to debate against the same retard who shills in /nsg/ and, no matter how much he is BTFO, continues to do it. For example, the debt meme is easily refuted by pic related, yet you still keep spewing untruths saying that they were utterly crushed by it. It doesn't matter whether on not we debate you, because you shill on no matter how hard we crush you in them. Remember to sage.
Gavin Richardson
Google MEFO bills and London Agreement on German External Debts (shows all the debt made by nazis and also has included the WW1 reparations) , imbecile. As I said... nazi retards do not know shit about economy.
Also I've no idea what you're talking about since I don't go to /nsg/ at all.
Liam Richardson
>The Tripartite Commission announced that they were prepared to make important concessions in terms of the amounts and priorities of their claims some referred to post war assistance (1945-1951), making it clear that post war debts were conditioned by satisfactory and equitable agreement on pre-war debt. The amounts owed in 1939 were: 840.7 million dollars, 51.5 million pounds and 2,775.2 million French Francs, to name the debts of the leading three creditors. In 1939 constant US dollars the equivalent would be 206 billion dollars.
Also show real source of your infographic. I do not trust the infographics at all on Sup Forums anymore as when I was backtracking the Holocaust ones, they were vastly fake or misinterpreted.
Cameron Thomas
>google MEFO bills and London Agreement on German External Debts No, because google is very biased against NatSoc and white identity as a whole, so anything I google would obviously turn up in your favor. Wikipedia is known to be run by literal Communists who don't source half of what they say or source it to untrustworthy things. >The amounts owed in 1939 were: 840.7 million dollars, 51.5 million pounds and 2,775.2 million French Francs, to name the debts of the leading three creditors No shit that the Treaty of Versailles asked for a shit ton of money. >Also show real source of your infographic. It's in the infographic, I'm not sending a link to a literal redditor shill. >I do not trust the infographics at all on Sup Forums anymore as when I was backtracking the Holocaust ones, they were vastly fake or misinterpreted. Proof? >inb4 you pick one that only a retard would fall for that is unsourced
Tyler Thomas
>tfw I forgot to sage
Ayden Smith
>No, because google is very biased against NatSoc and white identity as a whole, so anything I google would obviously turn up in your favor. Wikipedia is known to be run by literal Communists who don't source half of what they say or source it to untrustworthy things.
Germany was primarily in debt to it's own banks and citizens because they were forced to buy goverment bonds (MEFO bills)
Your DEBT source says nothing about the information in your infographic. So nice it's fake. Prove otherwise.
>No shit that the Treaty of Versailles asked for a shit ton of money.
This includes the 1933-1945 debts as well.
>Proof?
For example rothschild's quote, churchill's quote about forcing Germany into war, the jew slave trade, those are the ones that I can think of right now.
Xavier Perez
>unemployment was reduced by kicking out women from workforce, forcing people into public labor and drafting into the army good
Justin Hall
>being so new that you think it works
Kevin Gutierrez
>when Hitler made his major move on the economy (protectionism), the trade went from a SUBSTANTIAL SURPULUS TO A DEFICIT Wrong. Germany was embargoed in 1934 because they defaulted on previous loans and introduced their own currency and labor notes in 1933. There was a technical deficit because Germany was not trading in dollars, they were literally doing barter trade with neighboring European countries -- this is what originally set the Jews off against Germany, because Germany and Hitler had disconnected themselves from the Jewish grip on the world economy. Keep in mind that, like most revolutionary movements, the NSDAP were originally funded by the Rothschilds.
>the unemployment was reduced by kicking out women from workforce, forcing people into public labor and drafting into the army Women in the workforce has never helped any economy in world history. It destroyed the Western markets in in the 60's and 70's.
Most of the other stuff is just made-up statistics.
Jose Wright
thanks for making a thread about this op, keynesian socialist larpers like to think that governments can fix economies. 80 iq tier thinking.
Jace Thomas
>Your DEBT source says nothing about the information in your infographic The Bundesbank one? Are you reading the full version or the English one, shill?
No. In 1936 Hjalmar Schact (and some others) lead a free-market faction in the government opposing Hitler's protectionism. Hjalmar Schacht also opposed Hitler's massive re-arment because it was leading to an economical disaster. Meaning: Hitler imposed protectionism.. obviously.
The embargo in 1934 was nothing but words.
>Keep in mind that, like most revolutionary movements, the NSDAP were originally funded by the Rothschilds.
And what happened when you woke up, sweetie?
>Women in the workforce has never helped any economy in world history. It destroyed the Western markets in in the 60's and 70's.
Your opinion and it didn't. Women as work force are irreplacable now.
>Most of the other stuff is just made-up statistics.
Prove me wrong then. Those are official statistics so you're obligated to refute them if you think otherwise.
Jack Brooks
Link it then. Come on.
Cooper James
I was waiting for him to post the "debunk" one so I could post pic related.
Jaxson Garcia
>i was only pretending to be retarded, but here - look at another outdated picture too!!!
Brandon Morgan
>Women as work force are irreplacable now. Irrelevant to my point.
>Prove me wrong then. Why would I engage with fallacious claims? Stupidity.
Connor Rivera
I don't do infographics sweetie, only retards post those. I only post real things.
So I'll post something that was never ever refuted by retarded holocaust deniers even though they think they did.
Also keep in mind that HCN was found on the walls of the (used) gas chambers, bodies were autopsied (on the West - Charles P. Larson's Crime Doctor, cause of death was cyanide and in USSR CO - Kharkov)
UN wasn't founded until '45 my friend, your pic is fake.
Isaiah Sullivan
It would have been a strong economy though. Winning a war makes a country rich!
There would have been no economic problems if The Reich could have expanded into the sparsely populated lands to the east.
The same method any other big empire in history used to fuel its growth.
The Anglosphere did the same in colonial era.
Carson Johnson
Didn't read because your picture is gay. sage.
Ian Hughes
Your link HAS NO INFORMATION ABOUT 1929-1939 DEBT SO as I guessed, fake source. And I can speak and read German.
Also the document is addressed to "THE GOVERNMENTS OF UNITED NATIONS" not to the UN because it didn't exist.
Aiden Flores
>Your link HAS NO INFORMATION ABOUT 1929-1939 DEBT SO as I guessed, fake source. I doubt you read it that quick even if you can read German. >Also the document is addressed to "THE GOVERNMENTS OF UNITED NATIONS" not to the UN because it didn't exist. It clearly says "The United Nations" in your pic, retard.
Evan Young
Also why to fuck would an annual report for 1976 have debt informations of Nazi Germany?
I told you, your infographics are fake shit.
Landon Sanchez
No, it says "...to the Governments of the United Nations..."
I searched the years and alleged debt from your infographics by ctrl + f and showed nothing. Circle me the debt then.
And thanks, I'll add the debunkment of this infographic to my list.
Kevin Peterson
>Also why to fuck would an annual report for 1976 have debt informations of Nazi Germany? I don't know, I don't fucking work there. Probably to see how much they owe for WW1 and WW2. >I told you, your infographics are fake shit. Yours are fake. Mine at least have sources. >No, it says "...to the Governments of the United Nations..." Who are the "United Nations" then, user? >I searched the years and alleged debt from your infographics by ctrl + f and showed nothing. ctrl+f doesn't even work on that document for me, so you obviously won't find it like that dumbfuck. That's why I said "hope you can read German". Any dumbfuck can read a graph and use ctrl+f.
Ryan Jones
>I don't know, I don't fucking work there. Probably to see how much they owe for WW1 and WW2.
Then circle the part out. Otherwise you have no source.
>Yours are fake. Mine at least have sources.
I posted 0 infographics. I posted a document that is a source itself.
>Who are the "United Nations" then, user?
The "Governments of the United Nations" is the international community.
The document was handed over by the Polish Government in exile.
>ctrl+f doesn't even work on that document for me, so you obviously won't find it like that dumbfuck. That's why I said "hope you can read German". Any dumbfuck can read a graph and use ctrl+f.
Don't care if it doesn't work for you, and yes I can read German it's an annual report and only shows the differences (in terms of progress) between last years.
CIRCLE ME OUT THE DEBT INFORMATION OR YOUR SOURCE IS INVALID.
Christopher Allen
BASED BLACK MAN
Hudson Garcia
Tell me, retard. How did Napoleon enrich France?
>Perhaps its related to Hitler enriching Germany
Aaron White
>Then circle the part out. Otherwise you have no source. I can't read German, user. >I posted 0 infographics. I posted a document that is a source itself. No it fucking isn't. What's in the document? How can you prove that it was given to the "United Nations" in 1942? >The document was handed over by the Polish Government in exile. How do they have information about "muh Holocaust" if they're in exile and the supposed gas chambers were just fucking completed? Where did this document come from, what library or archive is it from? For all I know, that document is just blank pages with only a cover. >CIRCLE ME OUT THE DEBT INFORMATION OR YOUR SOURCE IS INVALID. I CAN'T READ GERMAN, user
Logan Butler
>I can't read German, user.
SO YOUR SOURCE IS INVALID, prove me otherwise. I can read German since I was born and lived in Germany and it says NOTHING about nazi germany debt.
>No it fucking isn't. What's in the document? How can you prove that it was given to the "United Nations" in 1942?
Then your source is invalid since you can't defend your source.
Joshua Jenkins
>777
Alexander Adams
Well since you got BTFO-d so hard I guess you don't want to reply anymore. Oh well at least you learned (or should've learned) a lesson not to trust your shitty infographics and always check their sources. They're primarily lies.
Also you're one of the less smart holocaust deniers & nazi I've come across. Others provided better arguments even though I btfo all of you.
Brayden Sanders
Does it not concern you that the only libraries that carry this are jewish? The same library you linked also holds this book about the lampshades which was debunked and never stood in court at a trial. wiener.soutron.net/Portal/Default/en-GB/RecordView/Index/61325 Also seeing as it's only 15 pages can you summarize the contents of your source?
Nicholas Watson
>SO YOUR SOURCE IS INVALID, prove me otherwise. I can read German since I was born and lived in Germany and it says NOTHING about nazi germany debt. You haven't even read it, you just ctrl+f which doesn't work for everything. >wiener.soutron.net/Portal/Default/en-GB/RecordView/Index/27121 >no way to read the document online >document would have had to be written before 1942, before any supposed mass exterminations took place >exiled Polish gov would have somehow needed to get this, if it was true, highly classified information Truly, I have been BTFO >Then your source is invalid since you can't defend your source. Maybe you should read it, retard. Nice try retard. As expected from a redditor shill. Your source isn't even readable, and you haven't even read mine. The pic you posted is blurry and unsourced.
Christian Parker
The plan was to take loans to build an army and roads for supplies and then kill the creditors. Ez. Germany is the most destructive cancer in Europe.
James James
>You haven't even read it, you just ctrl+f which doesn't work for everything.
I read enough to see there is no mention of Nazi Germany debt. If you think otherwise, please circle me the part where it says something about it. There is the english version too.
Here's the translation. You can also google Karski's report if you want to know more about it. Do note that NO holocaust denier HAS EVER refuted it, not even David Irving so I'm 100% sure you won't say anything that I didn't hear about it already.
>Nice try retard. As expected from a redditor shill. Your source isn't even readable, and you haven't even read mine. The pic you posted is blurry and unsourced.
That's the receipt of a shipment of Zyklon B without a warning substance, meaning it can't be smelled, why would they need that hmm? And it's a source itself since it's a document.
I told you, I only post primary sources, I'm not a dumb retard like you.
Do keep in mind you still didn't refute anything of mine whereas I completely refuted your infographic, if you think I didn't refute your infographic circle out the debt part, you have the english version.
Also have fun reading this, also not refuted by dumbo deniers.
It's a report from a Polish resistance fighter about gassings in Auschwitz.
Asher Roberts
>subsequently, however, it is reported that the Germans applied new methods, such as poison gas, by means of which the Jewish population was exterminated in Chelm, or electrocution, for which a camp was organised in Belzec >electrocution Truly a credible source. >That's the receipt of a shipment of Zyklon B without a warning substance, meaning it can't be smelled, why would they need that hmm? More chemicals to add to delousing = more money. They were fighting a war.
Jace Rivera
>Truly a credible source.
You didn't prove it's fake or uncredible.
>More chemicals to add to delousing = more money.
It takes much, much less Zyklon B for killing than delousing also delousing chambers worked for hours yet gas chambers needed only 10-15 minutes to kill everyone inside with 300ppm.
That's also one of the reasons why the concentration of HCN in gas chambers is lower than in delousing chambers.
Why would there be different concentrations then huh?
And no, Gerstein ordered specifically Zyklon B from Dr Gerhardt Peter (Degesch owner and owner of the Zyklon B patent) without a warning substance for executions in 1943.
Even though with and without the warning substance were used for executions.
Kevin Sanders
I'm still waiting for you to circle out the debt, you can't wiggle yourself out of this one, naziboi.
Robert Harris
>Hitler is just one person.
Joshua King
>In the beginning, an intravenous injection was applied but the delinquent lived on after it too long - for several minutes - so, in order to save time, the system was changed and injection was done straight into the heart, then the prisoner lived for several seconds only. The fluttering half-dead corpse was thrown into a neighbouring room by the wall, and a next number came in. Indeed, this way of murder was much more intelligent but horrible in its coulisse. All those standing in the corridor knew what was in store for them. When going along the row, you could see your acquaintances and you told them "Hello Johnny" or "hello Stan, you today, me perhaps tomorrow".
OK bud.
Grayson Gutierrez
All of what you wrote is true. The reason Nazis can't believe it is because they are uneducated idiots.
Joseph Cruz
>You didn't prove it's fake or uncredible. Where is the evidence in the camps that they "electrocuted" people to death, user? >Why would there be different concentrations then huh? Killing other plague bringers besides lice. >I'm still waiting for you to circle out the debt, you can't wiggle yourself out of this one, naziboi. I can't read German. I'm still waiting for you to read it. I've been reading the garbage you've been sending.
Tyler Brown
Cant be any worse than the debt USA is in currently, and UK for that matter. Trillions at this point I'd imagine
Jaxson Young
>>the unemployment was reduced by kicking out women from workforce, forcing people into public labor and drafting into the army So?
Nolan Diaz
Where were you when I became the God of Gets?
Henry Lee
>keeps getting BTFO >starts focusing on his digits as a coping mechanism autism
Juan Nguyen
>bumps an anti-fascist thread >uses fascist flag >keeps thread open without contributing like an autist Shill behavior.
Brayden Nelson
haha fascist btfo once again. they never learn do they