What is it about Islam that's made it the worst religion ever invented on planet earth?
What is it about Islam that causes every society that adopts it to become an uneducated, unproductive, barbaric, artless hellscape (unless it has enough oil money to put a nice polish on all that)?
Why is Islam so terrible?
Pagafagism is actually worse though.
No because paganism is followed by a couple thousand peoples worldwide at most
well it was written by a murdering thieving slave having pedophile who married an old fat bag of shit so he didn't have to work
Gee i wonder
It was basically a justification for plunder and murder, with an "honor [code] among thieves" tacked onto it to keep its followers from killing each other (fat lot of good that did).
Kind of like Communism, actually.
Read this book if you legitimately want to learn. Well-researched, well-cited and free of leftist lies.
It is not the worst. Marxism for example is worse, and yet those cannot compete with those religions that end with all their members dead in a ritual suicide.
indeed, Paganism is nothing, Paganism evolved into Monotheism if anything, because fundamentally the meta-phenomenons that many gods represent are themselves represented fully in a single universal god.
Which is why so many pagans converted very willingly to Christianity. Rome is not the only example of this; the Saxons and Normans invading the UK eventually converted to Christianity of their own accord, giving up their Norse gods, even though they were overwhelmingly the dominant force.
No wonder the two get along so well... Marxist Feminist Commies and Islam...
The unholy alliance indeed.
The Quran was not received from Allah, but dictated to a Rabbi who was forced to write it.
Proof? There is a lot of Midrash and Torah in the Quran which only a Rabbi would know.
The Rabbi was forced to write the Quran under threat of death, so he placed critical errors so any intelligent person would know it is bullshit.
The Koran says Haman was an advisor to pharoah. Wrong. Haman was the persian who tried to get the Jews killed. Read the book of Ruth for the real story.
The Koran makes a major point to say Jesus was not crucified. Even the Romans recorded this as a historical fact.
There are dozens of other examples.
The book is based on the number 19. Think...18 Jewish blessings and number 19 is a curse on the enemies of Israel. Why are the children of Ishmael so miserable and always fighting for evil?
careful with that edge son, mohammad was legit. his teachings are genuine with divine intentions. I can't say the same thing about it's organized religion form though. ar*bs murdered every enlightened person of their own throughout history so their degeneracy overshadowed the actual understanding of the teachings
Thanks senpai
>What is it about Islam that's made it the worst religion ever invented on planet earth?
It's Christianity 2.0. 'nuff said.
>mohammad was legit.
he was a legit barbaric piece of illiterate shit.
And a scam artist no less.
Muhammad was just your average middle eastern dictator and warlord.
the only thing that made him stand out was that he took a page out of constantine's book and claimed that his territorial conquests were orderred by god. just like constantine he took the existing religious beliefs of his new subjects and modified them slightly so that it seemed reasonable that his totalitarian decrees were god's will.
this isn't really hard to understand
>be dictator
>order people what to do
>kill them if they refuse
>eventually people rise up and overthrow you
or
>be dictator
>claim to be messenger of the people's god
>"i am just a messenger, it's [insert god/gods here] that wants you to do all these things, not me"
>people still hate having to do this shit but they do it anyway because they don't want to offend their god.
>no rebellions
>???
>prophet!
Death penalty for apostasy.
Everything just rolls downhill from that. It's a very broad, very, very deep iceberg, but that's the highest tip-top point.
Except 2.0 means it builds on Christianity.
Christianity is arguably Judaism 2.0, but Islam is basically just a filthy fanfic of the other two.
Centuries of jew and catholic fake propaganda destroyed them, they fear the Islamic mind.
en.wikipedia.org
Even when Islam is left alone, everything goes to shit.
>What is it about Islam that's made it the worst religion ever invented on planet earth?
It was invented by Chinese to ruin everything from India to France
other major religions deal with spiritual concerns and generally say the world is kind of shit and you should just try to get along with or ignore it while thinking about more important things
islam says conquer the world and then goes into details about tax codes
That's definitely one of the worst things about Islam.
It aggressively overtakes places, but then has absolutely no idea how to run the shit it overthrows; it just turns the place to shit and then they spread elsewhere.
Just like raiding caravans, but on a country to country scale.
It's literally just Christianity minus the contradictions.
Christianity tells you to kill nonbelievers but "love your neighbor" at the same time, it's a religion that by design is impossible to follow to the letter.
Islam doesn't change the spirit of Christianity, it just clears up the confusion.
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Monotheism without the Trinitarian doctrine means you can't rationally understand Islam. Submit or die
Most important thing to remember about "The Golden Age of Islam": most citizens of the Caliphate where not Muslim. When the 9 year old girls' dad took over and became first Caliph he didn't force Islam on the conquered. Everyone had to pay taxes. Non-Muslims had to pay an extra tax. BUT taxes plus extra tax were still less than what the Byzantines and Sassanids were collecting. So conquered didn't mind their new rulers. Wasn't until around 900 A.D. that these places became majority Muslim
>Christianity tells you to kill nonbelievers
Really, where?
Also i'm not sure how loving your neighbour is any kind of contradiction.
Make friends with the people closest to you, even if you aren't related - that's just common sense.
>Islam doesn't change the spirit of Christianity, it just clears up the confusion.
It's not at all like Christianity, the worst parts of Christianity are the Torah, and even then Islamic doctrine is far, far more harsh and detailed in its prescription of subjugating others, committing horrific acts, and ruining everything good about being human.
Jesus, just look at the amount of art, architecture and good work Christian nations have produced - they ENDED slavery and put a worldwide ban on it.
Meanwhile in places like Islamic Qatar, slavery is big business.
The only Islamic nations that aren't horrificly backwards places are the ones that can afford to whitewash their barbarism with oil money.
The 1400 years of inbreeding retards, really.
And where is it without the Trinitarian doctrine?
>All these christcucks saying the dumbest shit on Islam that even a non-Muslim theologist wouldn't say
>Especially about the Golden Age of Islam
>Ch-christianity is so gud look islam it's bad!!! christianity is nothing like Islam
The funny part is when Jesus tells in the "muh reformed NT" that the Laws of the OT must be followed until the prophecy is fulfilled (this includes the establishment of the kingdom)
The Trinity is actually way less rational than the Tawhid.
>implying 3 in 1 shampoo is "rational"
Clueless retardism
It's a combination of things:
- A fundamental pillar of Islam which they highlight over and over is that the Quran was written by allmighty allpowerful allknowing timeless Allah.
As such, it's extremely hard for any "moderate" person to provide a credible-sounding intellectual basis for rejecting what's said in the Quran.
This is very different from Christianity. Jesus said sufficient ambiguous things that it's possible to form an intellectual base against the Old Testament. The Bible was written by humans, not by gods, hence even if they were virtuous they were fallible and limited in comprehension and lifetime.
- The actions of the "key person":
From what's written down about Muhammad, he did a lot of violent, abusive, genocidal shit. Sure, it wasn't recorded to modern standards, but it's all we have about him. You can't invent new sources saying e.g. he didn't light a fire on someone's chest to torture them, contrary to what a historian wrote about him not long after he lived.
So when people ask "What Would Jesus Do?" and "What Would Muhammad Do?" they come to very different answers.
ISIS is literally just doing what Muhammad did. He killed, waged war, took slaves, tortured.
- The Quran is actually not too bad relative to the rest of Islamic writings. It just prescribes the beating of unruly women and amputation for theft. They also have the Hadith, which are recordings of what Muhammad said and did. The Hadith contain far more terrible things.
God is beyond comprehension, but Jesus Christ I can understand, and the Holy Spirit connects the two. Simple & rational
Read up
Honest answer. It's the religion of satan.
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Or Saturn.
Yeah yet God can't be tempted by Satan yet Jesus is supposed to be the incarnation of God and he was tempted by him at some point
Oh please lmfao this screencap BTFO nothing
Espacially when it deals with the Banu Qurayza "ummm da jews did nothing wrong yet muhammad beheaded dem u_u'" they were beheaded because the constitution of Madinah made by the Muslims and the other tribes stipulated that it was the reward for treason
You're all so easy and you don't even know
Yes, that's very much the point.
Christianity sought to build on the lessons of Judaism.
Judaism made a single god to usurp the paganism around at the time.
Pagan gods are finite descriptions of meta phenomenon (such as Aphrodite the goddess of Love, or Thor the god of thunder - they're personified and anthropomorphised to make them more relatable and tip people into wanting to understand them), so the Jews made a god that was just 'all', as in all of the things, every last one. Love, Hate, War, Thunder, Earthquakes, Plague, Societal dynamics, everything.
And it worked! In doing it, people who practiced it learned a good solid bunch of self-critical lessons about running societies and keeping them going.
But as you said, God with the capital G is hard to relate to, because it's the whole fucking universe personified, and we are but a tiny piece of the universe.
Thus Jesus came into the fray as a character, because he too is canonically a tiny piece of god.
And the Old Testament lessons on how to run societies were reduced to their meta lessons and applied to the individual; What would a kingdom that doesn't sin look like?
The Kingdom of Heaven.
And that's a goal to aim for.
What might a man that doesn't sin look like?
Jesus.
And that's a goal to aim for.
>>Yeah yet God can't be tempted by Satan yet Jesus is supposed to be the incarnation of God and he was tempted by him at some point
God is an anthropomorphic representation of the universe, and the lessons he has to teach are essentially "if you fuck up, this world will come down on you like a ton of bricks, and the foundation of your society will collapse into dust".
God (the universe) is a force you cannot bend or warp, there are no shortcuts, you will break yourself on it, this isn't even a spiritual assumption, this is the principal of Darwinian selection.
Now, the entire universe literally physically cannot fuck itself up (sin against itself), if it can, it would have done so already. It's a bunch of forces collapsing over each other the only way they possibly can in the same way that water flows downhill; it's the path of least resistance and the weight of the entire universe keeps itself in check.
But this isn't at all true for the little things inside the universe (living things, especially humans) - we CAN fuck ourselves up, we've got a lot of room to breathe in that domain, and that's what Jesus is there to represent - that EVEN IF you are a child of God (a product of the universe) that doesn't give you the same kind of infallibility it has.
The lesson is that the very nature of the human form (mind body and soul) lends it entropically towards Sin, even if a perfect being is stuffed inside one of these bodies. So we shouldn't hate ourselves for being tempted, we should simply learn that inside these bodies taking the path of least resistance (sinning) is in fact very often a bad idea. For we lack the all powerful crushing mass and force that is the Universe acting upon itself.
>God is an anthropomorphic representation of the universe, and the lessons he has to teach are essentially "if you fuck up, this world will come down on you like a ton of bricks, and the foundation of your society will collapse into dust".
God (the universe) is a force you cannot bend or warp, there are no shortcuts, you will break yourself on it, this isn't even a spiritual assumption, this is the principal of Darwinian selection.
Now, the entire universe literally physically cannot fuck itself up (sin against itself), if it can, it would have done so already. It's a bunch of forces collapsing over each other the only way they possibly can in the same way that water flows downhill; it's the path of least resistance and the weight of the entire universe keeps itself in check.
You humans always think you're so special, that god looks like you.
Don't you realize that there are exactly 2 gods, chiefmost of them Xan-lak'ktu? It is said he looks like no Recticulan, more creature than man. And yet He created the universe.
You pathetic earth men will learn soon enough.
One huge problem, the worst probably, is that they believe:
(1) you get one lifetime here, then to heaven or hell with you, based on your works here, and
(2) the only way to guarantee you'll get heaven and avoid hell is to die for jihad.
Therefore you get a race of mentally ill fanatics that refuse to back down, cannot be moderated. If you talk of moderation, they're hearing that you want them to risk hell. And of course their book says that you're an infidel for talking that way, so they despise you and react aggressively.
It is impossible to reason with them, impossible to get along with them, because their secret goal is to die for jihad and kill someone like you while doing it. You're the only thing standing between them and heaven, 72 virgins etc.
t. never talked to a Muslim
>think you're so special, that god looks like you.
I think you're missing the point of anthropomorphism.
The purpose is not this childish analysis of "God" as a literal physical personality that walks around and shit, and that our claim is the ridiculous notion that this thing happens to naturally look exactly like us.
Not at all.
The purpose of anthropomorphism is to make meta entities / meta phenomenon (in short, things about the universe that cannot be denied, cannot be killed, cannot end - which in pagan philosophy results in things like the god of war, the god of sunrises, the god of storms/thunder - things that cannot be denied) and it puts a human face on them to make them more understandable / make us more likely to desire to understand them.
At one point in time, long before we were even strictly human, but more like a proto human-ape, the only thing we were fully aware of were other humans; as a thing to be analysed and comprehended, and the rest of the world we sort of just bimbled about in, surviving where we could based on instinct alone.
But then, at some point we truly became sapient and started to realize that all sorts of things in the world warranted just as much analytical attention as each other.
But how to convey this? How to explain to people that physical phenomena is just as important to keep an eye on and watch out for as other humans?
Simple! You draw those phenomena AS humans; but not just any old shifty looking human you want to keep an eye on, this is a META human. A force of nature in human form.
A god.
That is why we draw God (and all the pagan gods) as if they were human beings.
those last 2 lines, wp sir
>Christianity tells you to kill nonbelievers
Filing that under bullshit