The arms deal theory

In every single thread about the Las Vegas massacre I see a bunch of anons spouting this bizarre theory that the shooting was actually part of a CIA/FBI arms deal gone wrong, even though there's not one bit of evidence for this and it sounds more like the script of a plot hole-riddled action flick than than something that could actually happen in real life. So who is pushing this retarded narrative and what are they trying to slide?

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It's fucking obvious, you autist CIA goy

I really want to believe in the arms deal narrative, but I can't. Here's why.

If those guns were brought there to be sold, why the 32nd floor? Why up so high? It makes everything more complicated. If some autistic user can provide building specs that show those rooms were in proximity to staff/freight elevators or stairs, I'd be more likely to buy it. But being up that high makes EVERYTHING more complicated unless there's some reason we're not considering. But what those rooms were particularly good for was having a vantage point to fire on that crowd. That's really all they were good for.

I can't help but believe that when those guns were taken there, they were actually taken there to do what was done with them. Nothing else makes sense if you think about it. In spite of wanting to believe otherwise, I really can't.

Is there more going on with this? Of fucking course. Paddock may not have even been the shooter. This photo looks staged as fuck for a bunch of reasons. There's any number of other things wrong with the whole situation. But even when it's spun as he was the buyer, I just can't get totally on board with it

What does it matter what floor it is when you can use a fast elevator?

Somebody fucking explain to me how an arms deal gone wrong ends up with raining down terror on hundreds of civilians? Please?

The arms dealer theory could work if you believe he was the man providing a specific group with weapons, and he was part of that group as well. Perhaps it's a bunch of muslim looking dudes, and he's the only one who wouldn't arise suspicion buying all the weapons. The group decided the didn't need him anymore, carried out the attack they had planned with Paddock, but left him for dead. Who ever was on the room with him probably thought Paddock was better off dead than getting caught.

There's no evidence for any theory because they won't tell us his fucking motive

If he was selling weapons to a terror group. And he had purchased the weapons, and booked the room for them to carry out the attack. Who ever this group is, decided they didn't need him anymore, carried out the attack, and killed him.

this

The idea is that he was selling guns to terrorists, and they decided to do the attack right then and there for some reason.

It's the sheer number of guns and ammunition he brought that makes it look like an arms deal. You add in the constant time spent in casinos and his rental properties, it looks like a guy washing money.

>why up so high?

Because it's a lot closer to the Helipad...

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Conspiracy theories are getting more stupid, each mass shooting.

What I don't is that people flip and open fire on innocents all the fucking time, but somehow it has to be some kind of super elaborate secret plan by who-ever we disagree with today.

The thing I don't get about the arms deal theory is this:
>if it was an arms deal why is he using civilian firearms? Fast & Furious had legit machine guns
>it's not hard to get guns in the country and we let in all kinds of shitskins so ISIS wouldn't need some random faggot to get guns off of
>there was no backup and supposedly ISIS just got away clean

Yeah it just makes no sense desu.

>Illegal arms deal
>with guns that are legal
>at least one bought from local dealer under his own name
>in a hotel rather than somewhere secure/hidden

you guys are really reaching

What if this was planned from either the S@udis or I$realis. That's my question. I think the manner of attack, he was to use the explosives and perform the shooting alone. He set up multiple rifles, and used many of them in the shooting, this was to make it look like there were many more people in the room to investigators. Their plan would be for him to escape through the Hotel on top, or blend into the crowd evacuating.

He was a contract killer. That's why he has to hide all his money. That's where he could afford gambling and all that shit. They would've (will) do the same thing to a major Black gathering. (((They))) are instigating a race war.

So was this retarded conspiracy theory conceived because Sup Forums can't come to terms with the fact that the now most bloodiest shooting of the USA was committed by a white dude?

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It's probably CIA niggers pushing this theory to muddy the water.

Not to mention the fact there's loads of video's out clearly showing muzzle flashes from around the 5th-7th floor. Even more mad then that is the fact that those windows would have had to have been triple glazed and laminated. No possibility of anyone smashing them as the laminate holds the glass together and the fact that they're fucking triple glazed

Something shady is going on

The most convincing arguments I've heard are 1) the 32nd floor is mostly made up of large suites that would be better for meetings and 2) it's a high roller floor so there are less people coming and going and possibly less surveillance.

But, even assuming both are true...those two rooms in particular (32134 and 32135 I think?) still offer the best vantage point to fire on the crowd. Booking any other rooms on the floor make it harder, if not impossible to shoot at the crowd. If the only criteria were big rooms and secluded floors, there's still only a 25% chance those rooms would have been booked at random. I can't think of anything I've seen here since Sunday that convinces me those particular rooms were booked for any reason other than to open fire on that crowd. And believe me, I've been on here A LOT looking for anything that adds up

>Sup Forums is doing batshit mental gymnastics when a white dude does something wrong
This happens every time. Hell, if this dude was a nigger no one would ever raise this crazy-ass "theory"

>What if this was planned from either the S@udis or I$realis
Por que no los dos?

yes

Paddock didn't book that hotel room someone else did. Paddocks brother said he could walk into and hotel in vegas and stay for free for a week "comp" because he was such a high roller.
>so he would not be booking room s on air BnB
That room was booked by someone else and Paddock was supposed to show up with the guns

Here's a red pill:

Route 91 "Harvest" festival presented by (((Sirius))). On 10/01. So 91101, or 9/11/01. Shooter DOA with no criminal background or political affiliation. Funny coincidence. Seems legit. Nothing strange or occult going on...

Shooter was a patsy. The shooting was a textbook group sniper/terror attack that is commonly used in color revolution "Springs" like Arab & Ukraine. It also has similarities with the Dallas Sniper, which was part of a similar operation.

Trump called it a "miracle" for a reason. There are several reports of multiple shooters at Mandalay Bay. Also reports of gunfire at Bellagio and Caesars. Gunfire was also video recorded at aria.

This was part of a much larger massacre plan that may have been averted by Blackwater or similar. Remember that Trump is friends with Erik Prince

That's because niggers do not plan. You can't have nigger conspiracy theories because niggers are generally incapable of conspiring.

I agree with you there

It started here

Its been days and there’s zero clear motive. When there’s no clear reason for something then conspiracy theories are all we have. Wouldn’t expect a nigger like you to understand though

Theories I've here that make sense are:
>He used casinos to sell weapons and launder the money via slots
>Liked making arrangements during times when festivals were happening, to distract police
>But he was there to buy instead of sell that day
>The weapons were brought DOWN to him
>Sellers got their money
>Offed him
>Shot up crowd
>Got away
>Now everybody thinks he is a lone gunman lunatic, despite several people sharing their stories of shooters and shady characters in other areas
>His brother, who was in on the whole thing, is going absolutely mental. He knows his brother didn't kill those people, but anything he says to exonerate him will land his ass in jail.

The guy was a casino comp grifter.
I've worked in the industry. These guys are a massive headache.
It all makes sense. He really was just a psychopath and casino intelligence indulged his narcissism.

conspiracyception

>So who is pushing this retarded narrative and what are they trying to slide?
same /x/fags that were still running their scripted sandyhook threads every other day prior to this

>wtf why hasn't the investigation on the greatest tragedy of 2017 been finished yet? it's been literally DAYS
You're a reality-denying fact-hating nigger.

the gun shop said he was an avid shooter.

The "muzzle flash" from the lower floor has already been debunked. It was just some jerkoff with a strobe light. It had been going on for days during the concert. witnesses verified that and even the LVPD already touched up on that. That doesnt eliminate multiple shooters and the fact that there was ammonium nitrate found plus shootings in nearby Caesers palace. Im just saying dont focus on the wrong part of the story.

you post in jest but ultimately its 100% true. we can tell by the press briefings that they are reading BOTH chans. why not post to add to the static noise?

I could maybe buy into some of this

except his name is on the room service receipt

Pure mental illness.

These faggots see everything as a sign of conspiracy

it's a planted story to distract us from digging into what really happened there. that thread from user john is a key. we should expose who really did this and not fall for their schemes

Because when people flip and go on mass shooting, they don't bring 20-something guns and a thousand rounds to a hotel room and then just kill themselves with most of those rounds still unused before the cops allegedly arrive at the scene.

> The shooting actually happened
I would ask how gullible you are, but the better response is to congratulat th3 CIA for pulling od the greatest false flag event in history

they throw in red-herrings to tai chi the autism and channel it into fake conspiracies

>mass shooting always go according to plan
>mentally ill grandpas always stick to the plan perfectly and never do anything that would seem strange in hindsight

pic related plain and simple = mossad planned it. that fbi/arms dealing plot is so stupid you're normie tier retarded if you fall for it - loose ends all over the place

same with this new story about Harvey Weinstein - it's all just a distraction

>>He used casinos to sell weapons and launder the money via slots

That would explain his wealth and his brother's strange explanation of how he made money.

Although didn't they say he only started buying weapons recently? If he was a regular gun buyer, wouldn't someone have come forward as him buying a lot of weapons?

that was a kosher conspiracy crafted by some jew at langley and you're a faggot if you believe it

Name the last shooting where the motive wasn’t known in less than three days.

A surprise birthday party for a child is a conspiracy. The shooting, whatever its nature, was a conspiracy.

ISIS Op that was known about and let through to promote the ban on assault weapons. You're forgetting the pretty damning statement from ISIS and the manipulated trends on twitter / kimmel fuckers pushing the narrative whilst people were still lying next to the Mandalay Bay.

>implying it didn't happen
I can tolerate people saying it was a false flag, but don't tell me you're on of those retards who thinks the whole shooting was fake. How many fucking crisis actors would they need to pull off a hoax like this in such a crowded area?

Everybody here is retarded.

Lurk moar newfriend.

um the theory I heard was that he was the buyer buying from a terrorist group.
I personally believe that group is a muslim Filipino terrorist group. apparently paddock did wire 100k to the phillippines shortly before this fiasco. I also know that the Filipino muslim group is probably seeking cash elsewhere because their president duterte has been cracking down hard on them. he's no pussy either his administration has killed a lot of people. also there was a ship seized not too long ago by Filipino police that caused these terrorists a big loss. they are notoriously ruthless.

as to why he's buying the weapons idk. he could have been doing this for a long time time without a problem till maybe he got stupid and fucked with the wrong group.

idk

> Janet planes take off right across street from where incident took place.

Paddock was burning ridiculous amounts of money all of which seemingly appear out of nowhere. Paddock is likely a spook and the CIA is using LV as a hub to fund terrorists around the world.

The amount of guns doesn’t make sense. Even if he brought enough to rotate out hot ones for fresh ones, he must have thought he could shoot for hours. Were they all the same caliber, having to make choices about what gun goes with what magazine in complete chaos sounds like too much trouble. But could possibly explain the long breaks between rounds. The whole thing is wild and no one knows why he did it yet. Why are we to believe he didn’t spend the time between his last round and the door getting blown open to record something. He had this pretty methodically planned out.

What if he was just some crazy guy that snapped?

Serious question. Why hasn't the security guard who played a major role in stopping the massacre been publicly identified? I know we know his name but he should have a 20 min interview on CBS by now.

If you really look at the details it all points to the Serbian and Philippine governments secret experiments on MAGs. Mind Altering Guns. Clearly the guns were in control. How you ask?

>After a regional conflict in between disputed islands in the Philippines which left two fishing boats destroyed, a reported 3 rifles were ex zoomed from the beach head of said Islands.
>In the many efforts to forge deterrents against the filthy chinks the spanish chinks explored other means
>After numerous drug raids as part of a trader deal between Serbia and Philippines. Serbia would gain a portion of the illegal narcotics in exchange for coastal ships.
>During these exchanges between the years 2012-15. Returns of said firearms were made.
>Said firearms were left at dead drops where chinese ships would patrol and collect.

The assault rifle grips were replaced with a steel/mercury mix laced with dusted LSD rendering the man holding it without protection to go fucking insane and highly suggestible. NOW look at what his wife does for a living. It wouldn't be hard to get those stocks now would it? Having been exposed to the mixed mercury over a long period of time it would be easy for him to lose his mind. He was in a room full of those weapons. And let me tell you at this stage he was likely tripping fucking balls and having the weapons talk to him and shit.

>My brother was an arm-

Steve was a textbook bored retired boomer, turned armadillo (illegal legal gunwalker) for the thrill of illegal legal hotel weapons sales. While he was an almost weekly "diller" (slang for armadillo while dealing), what most people don't realize is that Stefan was there to BUY, not sell. He needed to re-up his legal weapons stock, so he delt with another diller. And the dill (a deal with an armadillo) obviously went south. His brother all but spelled it out in the interview. Case closed. His brother explicitly stated the first syllable in the interview, but stopped himself because he knew he'd be dillo roadkill.

Don't you think if a fucking scumbag jihad fuck they would have told us. even if it was fabricated and they knew what was up...they would still say it was ISIS to cover their asses. Would be end of story immediately. The classic radicalized dumbass and does a mass shooting. Everyone would believe it. I think they actually are still trying to figure out what happened.

After planning this for 7 months.....that's a pretty long fucking "snap".

I'm pretty sure he was about to say "army of one".

Another thing that doesnt add up. LVPD says he intended to get out alive. But he expected to shoot for hours?

It could be. Actually I have no fucking idea what the motive is. No theory makes sense to me. I’m leaning most towards the guy just being a psycho, but I wouldn’t be surprised at anything really

Neither the DNC has an interest nor the GOP or Trump. The latter would look weak and the former could forget about getting a good deal for cheap (il)legal aliens

I think they're autists and disinfo agents blowing smoke up our asses to distract us from the fact this guy was a commie Boomer piece of shit. The real "conspiracy" is your liberal Boomer professor neighbor wants you in a concentration camp

Arms deal gone wrong, I know, to cover up I'll murder 60 people and draw a huge amount of attention to my fuck up ---- retarded

What is the budget of the CIA and other deep state agencies? With crisis actors involved you just need to infiltrate the crowd to cause enough confusion ao they can play dead. This false flag isn't as difficult as 9/11.

user did it!

whatever is happening now about Bannon and Milo - also a distraction

they're pulling all this shit out because they know the screwed up *bigly* this time

Have you heard Operation Fast and Furious where the government literally did this and didn't even jail anyone? Not even a stretch knowing that.

>(((feds))) trying to give their ISIS allies weapons so they can carry out a catastrophic attack on US soil
>sand niggers go bananas for whatever shitskin reason they are capable of
>start shooting at degenerates that might have pissed them off
>?????
>profit!

There’s a difference between a somewhat realistic theory and just being retarded. The only thing I am 100% certain of is that a lot of people were shot and wounded or killed. In fact if the cia/whoever wants to false flag something then it would be a better use of resources to actually do the deed instead of fake it

youtube.com/watch?v=wtFsN9mlVHg

HIS FUCKING "BROTHER" SAID "STEVE WAS AN ARMS.... SORRY"

WATCH VIDEO

Guns were legal, no need to "deal" them. You can literally buy them off a private seller you find on craigslist or through word of mouth, no background check

Location is just about the worst in the world, full of high end surveillance, lugging shit through a huge hotel, up and down elevators, presumaby to underground parking garage

This whole is such a shitshow it's like they want it to be outed.

Selling guns to isis cell

Shill detected.

At first the CNN footage of alledged final shots "showed" a barage, no single suicidal shot. Than a video emerged stating last shots, there were two single shots 10 seconds apart. One for Paddock and one for the security guard? As the MSM story goes Jesus(security guard) was hit by one of 170 bullets fired in the hallway. Why two final shots, or CNN a long barage. MSM/police narrative makes no sense.

By the way, Paddock was with another women while in L.V.! Honey Trap?

I think the fact that an user predicted it only 3 weeks before is pretty good evidence to support that user's theory.

>inb4 "He said it would be the next day (9/11)"

He said he wasn't sure it would be that day, and that he just knew there were planning something in Vegas.

>inb4 "Hurr, Nevada is perty big, and I'm totally not a CIA nigger shill."

HE SAID LAS VEGAS SPECIFICALLY

They wouldn't need to do this. There are 100,000s of Muslims LEGALLY here, if not millions.

Find someone sympathetic to your cause, they buy 1 gun every couple weeks from different stores or private sellers

its obviously the jews
1.arm
2.mossad

That could go wrong in far too many ways, it would make a lot more sense to just get a small kill team to shoot up the crowd and then blame it on a patsy afterwards, if you believe they would murder 3,000 people on 9/11 then you shouldn't have trouble believing that they would do this as well.

where can i buy this fucking carpet?

It's a theory so retarded that it has to be disinfo.

>owning carpet

You are unironically children aren't you.

This. Little fucking teeny boppers killing the whole fucking board.

>"I was about to use a colloquial that would besmudge one of the armed forces".
Army of one. This was the US army's official recruiting slogan for a number of years, and it also fits Paddock pretty well. I'm pretty sure he said it in an earlier interview too.

He was at very end of hallway 3 feet away from stairwell w/ exit sign blown off. Also directly above monorail part of hotel. Connects to other hotels in minutes

>But why up so high?

To answer your question you should look into who owns the top floors of the Mandalay Bay casino and resort hotel. It is owned by Four Seasons, however that particular Four Seasons is owned by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia. From the released 28 pages of the 9-11 report it was shown that Saudi Arabia's intelligence networks were highly involved in the acts of 911 to the extent of funding, training and aiding the hijackers themselves.

What does this have to do with the shooting?

This sets the precedent that there may have been Saudi involvement in the entire incident. The owner of the hotel would have much greater access to security, monitoring and other facilities. It would also explain how 23 rifles were able to be brought into the room without any alarms being raised as he was one person staying alone.

This scenario raises two possibilities. The first being that Paddock had in fact become a radicalized Muslim, and was receiving funding from Saudi Arabia directly via the Crown Prince. The second is that Paddock was a patsy left there after the Saudi intelligence shooters had completed their mission of gunning down the masses.

From this theory the important questions which need answering are what are the religious affiliations of his girlfriend Marilou, and who are her other husbands?

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That means most likely the OP failed since they monkeys didnt even use the explosives Paddock brought for them.

To add to this theory his brother mentioned how his brother was often allowed to stay in hotels for free, and that his meals were comped. He also adds that his brother consistently used his same "gold card" to receive comps, because that is how the money goes into his account etc. Would it be far fetched to believe that the Crown Prince who owns the hotel could be providing the funding for his terrorist incident by laundering it through gambling winnings at one of his casinos?

This is actually plausible

this

It could be, but that doesn't mean we have to stop at exploring other possibilities.

But there is NO explanation why they would shoot all those people. "Killing himself" would be perfectly fine. Shooting in the crows one time would be perfectly fine.

Nah, I'm not in..


OK, here's my tinfoil stories:

Version 1)
>Dealing with weapons
>People secretly gave some hard panic introducing drugs, so he would off himself (murder is too obvious and easy to find out)
>Guy got panic and psycho as planned
>Awful music from festival
>WTF, I'M GONNA KILL YOU FOR THIS SHIT MUSIC !!1!


Version 2)
>Hard blackmailed, to the point if being absolutely desperate
>Maybe he had a secret child with the flip gril which was take as hostage?


And here is my best story:
3) What if he didn't pick his victims randomly but wanted to kill SOMEONE in the mass of people?

It defeats the entire point of a terrorist attack if you don't let the victim know who is terrorizing them and why.