So, Sup Forums and especially the infamous Sup Forumsacks are very preoccupied with gender, gender studies...

So, Sup Forums and especially the infamous Sup Forumsacks are very preoccupied with gender, gender studies, point out that gay people, transgendered etc. are the quintessence of degeneracy. But why exactly are so many of you caught up with this stuff? Why does it matter?

Let me bring forth my hypothesis: You guys think that giving these people rights and making them more visible in the public is going to make transgenderism and other degenerate stuff more frequent. But, hey, that would mean that these things are socially constructed, and not determined by birth (by genes/DNA)? But, what the fuck, isn't that precisely what the very same shills criticise the meme about 'gender studies' for?

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Continued argument: It would be socially constructed if more people join the ranks of the degenerates, just because it becomes more tangible and public. Does transgender rights change the DNA of the population?

LOL

Totally backward. If transgenderism had a biological basis it would be legitimate. In reality it's just a bunch of idiots larping and being self-righteous about how oblivious and detached they are from their own bodies.

It's a lie, NOT biological.

So that means that gender studies are right? Gender is socially constructed?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_history

What about this? And also, do you hold the same position when it comes to gay people?

Gender is socially constructed therefore it isn't real. You don't have a real one. The concept of gender has been raped of all concrete meaning except as a social curiosity. Gender studies focusses on that which is made up, on ego.

But, I've got a dick.

That's not a trans, is a male actor interpreting a woman in a brazilian comedy movie.

At least put some effort in the bait.

Everything isn't a bait, user. I am really curious here.

Gays are well established biologically.
Taking the modern definition of a word and applying it backwards to history is classic apologetics. Like if I posted the "history of white people" based on my American definition of white. Modern trans apologists love to appropriate millions of people who did not really fit their narrative.

That's sex idiot. Sex characteristics. Dimorphism. Your corpse is more informational than your opinion, the definition of something biological.

to facilitate is to encourage

most Sup Forumsacks are concerned with the future of the European peoples ...
faggots are useless when you consider the 14 words.

Cuz this shit destroys a loved and choosen by god white race

So there's to relationship between sex and gender?

I buy the argument, but you seem to lack the empirical proof.

But does encourage imply that more people surrender to degeneracy?

*no

I didn't make an argument, i was dismissing your "proof" as totally unsubstantial. I don't have to prove, for example, that there's more to history than white v non-white. Queerness throughout history is NOT restricted to people who think modifying their genitalia will help.

Sex influences gender directly through hormones. Gender itself is behavioral which is how we get nonsensical anomalies like the western world rocketing up to 10% gender dysphoria. Associations (how society reacts to you) and narratives are the main engines of gender.

Technically, dismissing proof through reasoning is making an argument.

Even thought there are obvious differences between the present day transgenderism and the ones found centuries ago, the main point is to illustrate that sexual deviation in all forms is inherent to the human nature -- however statistically insignificant on large scale reproduction rates.

I admit that my original post was a bait, to a certain degree at least. But I am still puzzled on how much time and devotion edgy internet kids spend on bashing these poor sexual minorities; in memes, by attacking an oversimplified version of 'gender studies', and through good old hate speech.

What's all the fuzz about? Why do they care that much? I understand why they are bothered by niggers robbing them in alleys, killing each other, and muslims blowing themselves up. But fucking queers? Who cares?

I just wanna say that I love you all. Can't explain it, but I do. May you all be filled with ecstacy in the end

Hei bror/soster, elsker deg også.

Traps aren't gay there Nonce Magnets

Consider the existence of masculine women and feminine men. Where do they fit? In a less sex-obsessed society, 'misfits' can live productive full lives. However for us, you must have great sex to be fulfilled. Modern transgenderism revolves around having the right sex organs, because we've reduced the idea of man and woman to their roles in bed. In order to seek the best possible sex we have regressed to homunculus theory, everyone is trying to figure out what genitals the little man in their head has, because life and meaning revolve around genitals now.

Normie belief systems are very arrogant and trans is a ruinous, egregious example of that arrogance. Pride goes before the fall. I'm not talking about trans individuals, but trans beatification.

Ok, sure. So the problem is not the trans individuals but the way the political correct mainstream culture embraces transgenderism and sexual deviation in general?

The only reason this distinction between gender and sex exists is because English commonly has multiple words which refer to the same thing and some useless 'educated' person needed to justify their paycheck from a university. This distinction didn't exist even 5 years ago. Most languages do not have multiple words referring to sex, or if they do, one word refers to the gender of the articles of nouns and the other to people.

Language is a REALLY ancient thing and generally recognizes universal truths, especially where you find consistencies among disparate parts of the world. Trying to give words new meanings (sex/gender) obscures truths.

>gay people, transgendered etc.
With Jews, they are heavily involved in advertising and media, from this vantage point they project their anti-white hatred onto the people who they do not represent.

You got it. Theres a politcization which has people choosing sides, that is extremely dangerous for the vulnerable and confused of society. Its also the opposite of what trans advocates want, which is to help people find their individuality. Young people are being hurt. The movement is quite out of hand due to political fervor.

Your reasoning in peculiar. Clearly the two words sex/gender do hold some empirical value, in terms of describing the reality around us more precisely. Whether you like it or not, transgenderism exist, and gender is (even according to biologists and evolutionary psychologists) to some degree learned and acquired in the social milieu. The conceptual pair then provides a refinement, and makes it possible to be more accurate on what we are talking about in the different contexts. This is the strength of scientific inquiry, because we can't know what is true before it has been mapped, explored, tested and sometimes interpreted.

You are clearly heavily reductionistic in your view of truth. If your position were to be the prevailing one, you could just close down all universities, stop critical thinking, and following the true tenets of some kind of scripture.

This. No different words for it in Russian. Funnily enough word for sex/gender is "pol". Basically in the 50s ango sexologists redefined synonymous word into postmodernist garbage in their attempt to deconstruct traditional roles of both sexes.
Sex = gender

But do you think that this position of yours is representative for Sup Forums specifically and the internet culture more generally? Or do some also just hate degenerates?

But that effectively excludes the possibility that part of the way we behave as for instance men is learned and acquired through culture. Do you really think that is true? Is the world that simple?

(to be clear, I do not in any way dispute the fact that sex is primary to gender)

>Funnily enough word for sex/gender is "pol".

Why are modern men becoming more feminine? Why are Swedish men such cucks, when they were real men only a few generations ago?

Did our DNA change that rapidly? No, it was social changes, and our GENDER ROLES changed. This shows how sex/gender dichotomy is useful to avoid reductionism.

Culture has its roots in biology. High culture is a result of high IQ which is mostly genetically determined. Primitive culture is a result of low IQ.

And you don't need a new world to know that some behavior is learned. The only reason why you would need a different world if you trying to completely separate biological imperatives and diminish their proven dominance in determining pattern of behavior.

So Russia is a poor, fucked up, unfree country because most Russians are stupid?

Explain the fact that post mutilation trannies want to go back to being un mutilated. It shouldn't be automatic for a money grubbing Jew doctor to just do the surgery as soon as requested. Gender dysphoria isn't a real affliction except as an abnormal mental state and obsession.

I think most Sup Forums posters are actually underaged or barely of age kids, the rules keep them undercover but it's a silent majority. Those people, the inexperienced in life, are more stringent in their views. I explain this as an adult who's known and empathized with many queer and trans people. I think you'll find most mature Sup Forums users recognize that society is to blame, not individual victims.

Right. I think the two of us agree on most things.

BTW are you the same poster as this:

New IDs all over.

>post mutilation trannies want to go back to being un mutilated
That's what I'm saying. You probably replied to the wrong post.

>Gender dysphoria isn't a real affliction except as an abnormal mental state and obsession.
I wouldn't have used the word "abnormal" because there's nothing deviant about people being wrong, and having stupid ideas. It is definitely an obsession, a largely sexual one as I proposed here

switched to pc

OP here (on another computer). I am off to play League. Thanks for clarifying stuff for me. I will save this thread.

What's that on the horizon? Oh it's just the pedophilia, zoophilia and necrophilia sailing this way.

You really think so? Go back to your sauna.

English is a sloppy language where one word can have many meanings and it takes a lot of words to express a point. There are languages where the speaker knows the gender of the person speaking and being spoken to by the spelling of verbs. The speakers of these languages tend to be less confused about their gender, having literally learned to include gender in language since they learned to speak.

I know it so.

How do you "know it so"?

>let me simplify shit I don't understand and dictate your beliefs to you lol I'm a freedom loving liberal :DDDD
Why are all lefties mentally 12?

I full expect that when we finally get a non retarded neutral pronoun in English, agendersim will blow up and we will be hearing about the long and oppressed history of genderless people, the endless list of famous people who were really agender.

I am in my 30s. If you bothered to read the (relatively short) thread, you would see that the thread starter was bait.

Now, get on with your dick sucking, faggot.