Debunking the belt fed machine gun meme

Where were all the links if they used belt fed weapons?

I was a 249 gunner and those things end up everywhere. Tough to police them up. I scrutinized every picture of the room I can find and never saw any. Did police pick them all up before taking pics? Or did he bump fire using the quad stacked mags as seen attached to one of the weapons in the photos?

Pic related.

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tacticalbrassrecovery.com/m249-saw-mk46-high-rail-position/
thompsonmagnetics.com/magnetic-push-brooms/deluxe-push-broom
youtube.com/watch?v=_mXe9dk77bk
combinent.com/defence-equipment/linking-machines-and-belt-loaders/
liveleak.com/view?i=d57_1507241163
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

woah its almost as if the real shooter wasnt in that room

What makes them hard to clean up? I'd be amazed if there wasn't a way to make a ghetto bag/container that wrapped loosely around the gun such that those links fell into it and not all over the ground.

>Tough to police them up
noguns please go, its easy to pick them all up. if had ever been to a range you would have seen the magnetic "brooms" they use to separate steel cases from brass cases.

If you just put a plastic bag around where they eject then the bullets would get caught too and as the pics show the bullets were all over the floor. Also after awhile the gun would get hot and those pieces would melt the plastic and probably even nylon after awhile

noguns plz go

tacticalbrassrecovery.com/m249-saw-mk46-high-rail-position/

The fuck os noguns?

Someone who doesn't own or know about guns.

go back

t. noguns

Real world application you fool. They end up all over the place. Lolz@ that gear queer attachment
They end up spread out like a mofo.

Oops meant that for you. That attachment is a joke.

I've only ever seen this kind of shit used on helicopters. I'd venture to bet a lot of gun owners don't even know these kinds of things exist.

>Real world application you fool.
It doesnt matter noguns, its trivial to pick up with a magnetic push broom of brass catcher

thompsonmagnetics.com/magnetic-push-brooms/deluxe-push-broom

>I'd venture to bet a lot of gun owners don't even know these kinds of things exist.
They're common if you reload

Hold up...
Are there people here that honestly believe the cops picked up every single piece of link to hide an LMG? What purpose does that serve?

you think that suite was the only place throwing out lead?

I doubt it's what happened, but you don't have to pick up shit if you use a brass/link catcher. Just scatter some fired brass afterward.

Gtfo cancer.

hey penis puller, did you ever consider that they used a superior belt-fed firearm like a Lewis gun that doesn't have this problem?
but maybe you were too busy being a nigger

I don't think it happened either.

I will admit, the sustained fire in a few of those videos really does sound like a M240B. Very similar.

I just don't think any belt fed weapons were used in the "shooters" room.

Didn't he use high capacity drums? Why is everyone assuming belt-feed? He was using ARs ffs.

There was no machinegun and anyone who seriously believes this is retarded.

>Lewis gun
>superior
Maybe superior to throwing handfulls of bullets at the target but not by much.

Could have used an RPD or PK, they all used non-disintegrating belts.

find a single picture of a drum clip anywhere you dumb faggot, all the guns had teflon lined double big banana clips with 100-200 bullet capacitys

Has Marutei Tsurunen been mentioned already?

>Tsurunen was representing the democrats in the upper house of the Japanese parliament during they years 2002-2013 as its first Western-born member.

A fucking major achievement considering how doubtful the Japanese are against foreigners. Of course Finland is an exception of some sort, the older folk knows and appreciates Mannerheim and Finns.

Apparently a very conservative politician and that's exactly what japskies like.

youtube.com/watch?v=_mXe9dk77bk

Has Marutei Tsurunen been mentioned already?

>Tsurunen was representing the democrats in the upper house of the Japanese parliament during they years 2002-2013 as its first Western-born member.

A fucking major achievement considering how doubtful the Japanese are against foreigners. Of course Finland is an exception of some sort, the older folk knows and appreciates Mannerheim and Finns.

Apparently a very conservative politician and that's exactly what japskies like.

he had a bump stock and casket mags

Reloaders are the autists of the gun world for sure. Got a friend of mine who reloads my .416 Wby for me and it wouldn't shock me if he bought a brass catcher.

Could the blue hose be a vacuum? It did take along time to breach the room

>Reloaders are the autists of the gun world for sure
This i can confirm, I have a scale which cost me about $1200 and is accurate to 0.0002 grams so I can meter my powder by individual kernel.

Ive been saying shooter was on the roof top since birth

Because some spergs on /k/ listened to the footage, filmed on literal potatoes with shit tier microphones, and said:
>I know that sound! I served 9000hours in vietganraq and I can say for sure thats an M240
Then some even bigger faggot made a video showing the firing rate of the vegas shooter, the firing rate of an M240 (600rpm) and the firing rate of a bumpfire AR15 (800rpms) - and stupid faggots keep posting it on here!
>nevermind the fact that different M240s have different firing rates
>nevermind the fact that the firing rate of an AR15 bumpfiring depends entirely on the user and is prone to vary considerably
>nevermind the plethora of videos of AR15s bumpfiring at 600rpm

Fuck there's a lot of dumb cunts who post here....

Oh look, right on que - another fucking idiot.

fuck off snow gooks we're full

Wtf is that? I lugged around a ksp58 in the army and fired it quite a bit, never saw anything like that.

I was posting because he asked why you dumb cunt

jeez man

>saving brass
>autistic
Brass is one of the most costly components when it comes to reloading. It's all about saving dem shekels.

are you saying that the bumpstock ar and the 240 have indistinguishable sounds from one another?

its a expensive hobby

What a guy, bought into the best culture and his kids will never need to worry nor want.

I'm saying the audio was captured on a potato.

you could save a lot of money if you switched to reloading caseless

>clip

Non disintegrating belts exist

So the quality of the mic on the phones means you cant hear the similarities?

He's in the left-wing party you know

All the times I have used LMG I have never thought about what happens to the belt. Are those links reusable?

youtube.com/watch?v=_mXe9dk77bk
It's an M240

That is correct.
You can't compare sounds recorded on entirely different devices in entirely difference environments ESPECIALLY if the recording devices are low quality.
It's not scientific.

yes they're reusable
combinent.com/defence-equipment/linking-machines-and-belt-loaders/

Look another idiot!

Ok, disregard that then. But I'm still jelly being stuck here in sharia-Sweden.

Unfortunately the G11 is specifically prohibited in leafland. Apparently politicians considered it a very real concern, so we needed to get all those prototype spaceguns off our streets.

Get you a Lee collet die for .308, they're cheap and neck sizing is the shit.

some people say there were no real rounds being fired, just sounds over the concert sound system

liveleak.com/view?i=d57_1507241163

Are you even listening, you dumb piece of shit?

You're a kangeroo fucker. I wouldn't expect you to know shit about guns since your government cucked its people out of them.

This would not only make picking them up easy it would also pick up the steel casings.

>Get you a Lee collet die for .308, they're cheap and neck sizing is the shit.
I have Redding collet dies, you can see the case of collets on the left. It was expensive as shit, and it is a full body die because i have a autoloader.

Do you keep charts to optimize each of your reloads for powder qty/type, primer, and projectile? Guy who does my rounds has binders full of measurements he's made for the rounds he's tweaked over the years.

Shit can be severe.

240 gunner different location have they showed the other room yet or different hotel possible crossfire into fuel tanks

I have some software called QuickLOAD which simulates internal ballistics. I dont have a pressure gauge yet, and it would be difficult to use one on my rifle due to the unusual barrel profile.

If you think that shot cadence was from a 249 then you are a lop.

I know a lot about low quality audio recordings - I get all sounds of weird sounds out of my guitar when I record it on my phone!

You can use a mag in them. Pain in the ass, but it's possible

it doesn't matter what guns they used, what matters is there were multiple shooters

Ding ding ding

Holy shit, you're retarded. Condolences to your mother.

Just stop. Go back to cnn

Compelling argument friend.

the phenomenon seems to be affecting your keyboard as well

I sent 7 years as a m240 gunner and daydreamed about something like that broom and yet never saw one.

I don't understand, why would he use belts instead of beta mags in a boring old AR?

If you were a 249 gunner you would also mention they can be magazine fed too

jesus how did you guys not have them? they're common as fuck at private ranges because they need to seperate steel from brass cases for recycling.

You seen the video you can hear the bullets coming by?

Riddle me this
..why did he have so many SR-25's sitting around? They were everywhere in that room. One had holo sight? 450yd shooting using eotech holo? Come on

249 here for 3. Same.

Looks like your trying to be an asshole, need some help with that?

Why would they invest in a broom when they've got 120 dudes in a company to pick the shit up? You've got like 14 dudes per lane scouring through gravel to pick that shit up and separate it out.

Because those 120 dudes have more important things to do? I thought they would just make you do that as punishment if you fucked up somehow

Paid disinfo shill detected.

>More important things to do

Holy shit you don't understand the military. We had to download all these duffel bags off a truck one time and we had 2 chains of guys doing it. Not every single person looked busy enough so we had to snake those chains just so everyone would be working.

Snake the fucking chain is a metaphor for the whole military.

>..why did he have so many SR-25's sitting around?
Noguns plz go, there werent any 7.62 NATO chambered weapons. the KAC 5.56 gun would be a SR-15. And he didnt have those either, the only ones identified which i've seen where Daniel Defense rifles.

lol. no clearly i dont understand the military.

7.62 nato steel disintegrating split links...
Unless your swede 240 uses canvas belts like a 1919 30cal you should know what these are

Holy shit i looked it up and looks like it does use different links
My bad

FN Minimi gunner here (it's the original M249 for the uninitiated), that shit does get every fucking where. But I'm pretty sure that the person firing the belt fed weapon was not in that room. He was somewhere else. Probably a roof close by.

The sustained bursts heard in several video can only have come from belt fed weapons. At one point there was like a 9-10 second full auto burst, that's 200 rounds for a slower belt fed MG.

yeah, god only knows why it doesnt use disintegrating links. you'd think it would be a hassle to have this long fucking belt dragging behind you.

Where is all of paddock's brass? That shit goes everywhere.

>There weren't any 7.62 chambered weapons
He had a Daniel Defense DDM5V7 which is a 7.62 NATO rifle. It's in the picture.

>It's in the picture.
post pic because i havent seen it

The army is cheap as fuck man. Why buy some fancy magnet broom when you can get lower enlisted to pick them up for free?

So, inyour COD world he's up there no scoping, dual wielding DMR's with casket mags, and bump stocks. Sounds totally logical. Especially with taxi video of mid-mag cadence speed changes. Totally what a rifle does.

I do. You note all the different loads you make, and then when you test them you pick the best one. Since there's so many variables, it turns into a good deal of testing.

All these guys that have devoted life savings in to fobbit equipment talking shit to the guys who aren't role-playing with their guns for not having specialized gear. How many attachments you think their personal weapons have?

Here ya go.

its not that hard to hit a densely packed crowd the size of a city block.

that looks like a 5.56 gun user.

He thinks ARs are only in 556 and cant be in
762x39
Or 308/762x51