Why is English such a difficult language to learn?

Why is English such a difficult language to learn?

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probably because these third worlders' phone numbers are fucking atrocious

english is babby-tier. i speak it better than most native speakers. i speak another seven languages, excluding my own. what about you, amerilard?

literally shaking
what did he mean by this?

You capitalize 'I'

>what about you, amerilard?
We already speak English. There's no reason to learn anything else, faggot.

>difficult
it's one of the easiest, you're just dumb, try Czech or something

Because it's the most efficient

>implying serbian and croatian are different languages
>if you say you speak dalmatian I'm gonna piss myself

>i speak it better than most native speakers

Can tivers sheer tups?

Oh no, that business card is in perfect english.

He's gonna cock you, your girlfriend... He's gonna cock everybody (at site only).

It's not.

this chart makes no sense. if english has a higher info rate and syllable rate than vietnamese, how can it have a lower information density?

If it's too hard then you're not that smart to learn English.

also, mandarin definitely should have the highest information density, maybe not rate though, because you have to talk a bit slower so people can understand the tones.

It's the easiest language to learn.

I learned by myself. Playing WoW surrounded by Germans, Americans and Cananucks makes it easier desu. Germans were more friendly and helping tho.

I hope you don't think Koreans are any better.
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>slav

I'm surprised you even know how to use a computer

This is why we scam you on holidays

Look at that subtle colouring. The tasteful thickness.

...

lub Polski do cholera!

you actually dont, even if the tone isn't stressed they catch it
>t. linguist
thai and cantonese beat english on some measures, native chinese numerals are so fucking fast it's great, every country around borrowed them.

The paper is titled “A Cross-Language Perspective on Speech Information Rate” from the University of Lyon.

the information density is based on the assumption that vietnamese is "isolating"the words perfectly, eg: dogs in english has a value of 0.5 dog + s, but in vietnamese it's two seperate words. example where english wins out: bus. one word. vietnamese
"đi xe ô tô buýt". so the calculation is really biased against english to begin with, and especially against other "synthetic" languages like spanish or greek.

lol wat... which holidays are you talking about and how are spaniards scamming us? thanksgiving, chistmas, 4th of july?

My whole knowledge of English language is from playing Final Fantasy VIII and Broken Sword 2 with dictionary as a 9-10 years old kid.

I would pretty much just translate everything and hardcode actions with words (okay so "Fire" makes everything burn etc.).

It was excellent method.

>Why is English such a difficult language to learn?

English is easy as fuck. I speak English French Dutch German and Serbian.

Two, to, too. Where, wear, ware. Buy, by, bye.

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

English is just German in easymode

AUS BEI MIT NACH SEIT VON ZU AUßER GEGENÜBER AN...VORBEI BIS...ZU ENTGEGEN

DURCH FÜR GEGEN OHNE UM BIS ENTLANG

VOR HINTER UBER UNTER AN NEBEN ZWISCHEN AUF IN

How does krauts make articles for foreign words?
What is an article for ipad for example and why?

Full stop at the end of a sentence, Amerifat.

Its probably das iPad.

>Full stop

Is Marutei Tsurunen mentioned?

> Tsurunen served as a representative of the Democrats in the House of Lords of Japan in 2002-2013 as her first Western-born member.

It's a hell of a hell of a thing when you think about how dubious Japanese are foreigners. Sure Finland is a kind of exception, the older population knows and values Mannerheim and the Finns.

>Why is English such a difficult language to learn?
English is probably the easiest language to learn, you must ask "Why are people so lazy and dumb to learn english?" OR "Why are Americans so self-entitled and self-centered that they think that everyone should speak their language?".

My fellow American, you'd like to think it is difficult because that's what we've been told and it makes us feel superior.

In truth it's pretty easy. Don't believe me? Ask your bus boy, and he can probably speak English better than you can.

Englisch ist keine Sprache , lediglich ein Mittel um sich zu verständigen ; eigentlich ein Bimbodialekt

On the bright side, if he's in Sweden he'll probably get more "job" offers than he would without the mistake!

Linguists can't statistics.

There's weird half syllables and implied silent letters depending on context. I work with a few Hmong and some know Vietnamese too. The same syllable can convey different sounds or meaning. English has discrete syllables.

English is the only worthwhile language. 26 letters, intelligible grammar, largely case insensitive; its straight forward and easy to read. All other latin alphabet languages have more letters or virtually every noun having alternatives depending on gender.

asians and their dongchong languages seem to have self-explained behaviour and learning problems based on their languages alone. You get half the population trying to be some kind of worthless autistic word-symbol scholar where 70% of their life is dedicated to just figuring out how to memorize all these chicken scratch runes, and the other half takes 30 seconds to convey what the fuck a sentence is even about cause of literally incorrect word order in Subject Object Verb.

I don't know about German, but in Spanish you usually use what it sounds rights "La ipad" sounds bad because "a-i" sound, "El ipad" sounds more natural, also we have certain rules like if a word has tons of "A" or ends with "A" it is probably feminine.

I think he means like vacation
Un viaje

I know, I was just being a faggot

english isn't actually very difficult to "learn" -- but it's quite difficult to master. most natives never achieve True Fluency

english will take spare grammar out of the pockets of other languages. it is at least 3 languages stacked on top of one another, wearing a trench coat.

english is highly idiomatic and then due to the above, maddeningly inconsistent. it is the most fluid language in the world, and also the best.

You have to go even further back now Paco.

>wasting time learning a bunch of languages you will never utilize
Spotted the inefficient stupid man.

>go back
I live in Mexico bitch, your fucking policies and laws means nothing to me

Dearest creature in creation
Studying English pronunciation,
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse and worse.

I will keep you, Susy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy;
Tear in eye, your dress you'll tear;
Queer, fair seer, hear my prayer.

Pray, console your loving poet,
Make my coat look new, dear, sew it!
Just compare heart, hear and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word.

Sword and sward, retain and Britain
(Mind the latter how it's written).
Made has not the sound of bade,
Say-said, pay-paid, laid but plaid.

Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as vague and ague,
But be careful how you speak,
Say: gush, bush, steak, streak, break, bleak ,

Previous, precious, fuchsia, via
Recipe, pipe, studding-sail, choir;
Woven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, shoe, poem, toe.

Say, expecting fraud and trickery:
Daughter, laughter and Terpsichore,
Branch, ranch, measles, topsails, aisles,
Missiles, similes, reviles.

if i saw that shit he would not be hired

>if you ride alone, you ride with hitler.

Wholly, holly, signal, signing,
Same, examining, but mining,
Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
Solar, mica, war and far.

From "desire": desirable-admirable from "admire",
Lumber, plumber, bier, but brier,
Topsham, brougham, renown, but known,
Knowledge, done, lone, gone, none, tone,

One, anemone, Balmoral,
Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel.
Gertrude, German, wind and wind,
Beau, kind, kindred, queue, mankind,

Tortoise, turquoise, chamois-leather,
Reading, Reading, heathen, heather.
This phonetic labyrinth
Gives moss, gross, brook, brooch, ninth, plinth.

Have you ever yet endeavoured
To pronounce revered and severed,
Demon, lemon, ghoul, foul, soul,
Peter, petrol and patrol?

Billet does not end like ballet;
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.

Banquet is not nearly parquet,
Which exactly rhymes with khaki.
Discount, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward,

Ricocheted and crocheting, croquet?
Right! Your pronunciation's OK.
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.

Is your r correct in higher?
Keats asserts it rhymes Thalia.
Hugh, but hug, and hood, but hoot,
Buoyant, minute, but minute.

Say abscission with precision,
Now: position and transition;
Would it tally with my rhyme
If I mentioned paradigm?

Twopence, threepence, tease are easy,
But cease, crease, grease and greasy?
Cornice, nice, valise, revise,
Rabies, but lullabies.

Of such puzzling words as nauseous,
Rhyming well with cautious, tortious,
You'll envelop lists, I hope,
In a linen envelope.

Would you like some more? You'll have it!
Affidavit, David, davit.
To abjure, to perjure. Sheik
Does not sound like Czech but ache.

Liberty, library, heave and heaven,
Rachel, loch, moustache, eleven.
We say hallowed, but allowed,
People, leopard, towed but vowed.

Mark the difference, moreover,
Between mover, plover, Dover.
Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
Chalice, but police and lice,

Camel, constable, unstable,
Principle, disciple, label.
Petal, penal, and canal,
Wait, surmise, plait, promise, pal,

Suit, suite, ruin. Circuit, conduit
Rhyme with "shirk it" and "beyond it",
But it is not hard to tell
Why it's pall, mall, but Pall Mall.

Muscle, muscular, gaol, iron,
Timber, climber, bullion, lion,
Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
Senator, spectator, mayor,

Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
Has the a of drachm and hammer.
Pussy, hussy and possess,
Desert, but desert, address.

Golf, wolf, countenance, lieutenants
Hoist in lieu of flags left pennants.
Courier, courtier, tomb, bomb, comb,
Cow, but Cowper, some and home.

"Solder, soldier! Blood is thicker",
Quoth he, "than liqueur or liquor",
Making, it is sad but true,
In bravado, much ado.

Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
Neither does devour with clangour.
Pilot, pivot, gaunt, but aunt,
Font, front, wont, want, grand and grant.

Arsenic, specific, scenic,
Relic, rhetoric, hygienic.
Gooseberry, goose, and close, but close,
Paradise, rise, rose, and dose.

Say inveigh, neigh, but inveigle,
Make the latter rhyme with eagle.
Mind! Meandering but mean,
Valentine and magazine.

WTF HAHA THATS SWORD AND SANDALS FONT XDDDDDDDD

And I bet you, dear, a penny,
You say mani-(fold) like many,
Which is wrong. Say rapier, pier,
Tier (one who ties), but tier.

Arch, archangel; pray, does erring
Rhyme with herring or with stirring?
Prison, bison, treasure trove,
Treason, hover, cover, cove,

Perseverance, severance. Ribald
Rhymes (but piebald doesn't) with nibbled.
Phaeton, paean, gnat, ghat, gnaw,
Lien, psychic, shone, bone, pshaw.

Don't be down, my own, but rough it,
And distinguish buffet, buffet;
Brood, stood, roof, rook, school, wool, boon,
Worcester, Boleyn, to impugn.

Say in sounds correct and sterling
Hearse, hear, hearken, year and yearling.
Evil, devil, mezzotint,
Mind the z! (A gentle hint.)

Now you need not pay attention
To such sounds as I don't mention,
Sounds like pores, pause, pours and paws,
Rhyming with the pronoun yours;

Nor are proper names included,
Though I often heard, as you did,
Funny rhymes to unicorn,
Yes, you know them, Vaughan and Strachan.

No, my maiden, coy and comely,
I don't want to speak of Cholmondeley.
No. Yet Froude compared with proud
Is no better than McLeod.

But mind trivial and vial,
Tripod, menial, denial,
Troll and trolley, realm and ream,
Schedule, mischief, schism, and scheme.

Argil, gill, Argyll, gill. Surely
May be made to rhyme with Raleigh,
But you're not supposed to say
Piquet rhymes with sobriquet.

Had this invalid invalid
Worthless documents? How pallid,
How uncouth he, couchant, looked,
When for Portsmouth I had booked!

Zeus, Thebes, Thales, Aphrodite,
Paramour, enamoured, flighty,
Episodes, antipodes,
Acquiesce, and obsequies.

Please don't monkey with the geyser,
Don't peel 'taters with my razor,
Rather say in accents pure:
Nature, stature and mature.

Pious, impious, limb, climb, glumly,
Worsted, worsted, crumbly, dumbly,
Conquer, conquest, vase, phase, fan,
Wan, sedan and artisan.

The th will surely trouble you
More than r, ch or w.
Say then these phonetic gems:
Thomas, thyme, Theresa, Thames.

Thompson, Chatham, Waltham, Streatham,
There are more but I forget 'em-
Wait! I've got it: Anthony,
Lighten your anxiety.

The archaic word albeit
Does not rhyme with eight-you see it;
With and forthwith, one has voice,
One has not, you make your choice.

Shoes, goes, does *. Now first say: finger;
Then say: singer, ginger, linger.
Real, zeal, mauve, gauze and gauge,
Marriage, foliage, mirage, age,

Hero, heron, query, very,
Parry, tarry fury, bury,
Dost, lost, post, and doth, cloth, loth,
Job, Job, blossom, bosom, oath.

Faugh, oppugnant, keen oppugners,
Bowing, bowing, banjo-tuners
Holm you know, but noes, canoes,
Puisne, truism, use, to use?

Though the difference seems little,
We say actual, but victual,
Seat, sweat, chaste, caste, Leigh, eight, height,
Put, nut, granite, and unite.

Reefer does not rhyme with deafer,
Feoffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
Dull, bull, Geoffrey, George, ate, late,
Hint, pint, senate, but sedate.

Gaelic, Arabic, pacific,
Science, conscience, scientific;
Tour, but our, dour, succour, four,
Gas, alas, and Arkansas.

Say manoeuvre, yacht and vomit,
Next omit, which differs from it
Bona fide, alibi
Gyrate, dowry and awry.

Sea, idea, guinea, area,
Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean,
Doctrine, turpentine, marine.

Compare alien with Italian,
Dandelion with battalion,
Rally with ally; yea, ye,
Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, key, quay!

Say aver, but ever, fever,
Neither, leisure, skein, receiver.
Never guess-it is not safe,
We say calves, valves, half, but Ralf.

Starry, granary, canary,
Crevice, but device, and eyrie,
Face, but preface, then grimace,
Phlegm, phlegmatic, ass, glass, bass.

Bass, large, target, gin, give, verging,
Ought, oust, joust, and scour, but scourging;
Ear, but earn; and ere and tear
Do not rhyme with here but heir.

Mind the o of off and often
Which may be pronounced as orphan,
With the sound of saw and sauce;
Also soft, lost, cloth and cross.

Pudding, puddle, putting. Putting?
Yes: at golf it rhymes with shutting.
Respite, spite, consent, resent.
Liable, but Parliament.

Seven is right, but so is even,
Hyphen, roughen, nephew, Stephen,
Monkey, donkey, clerk and jerk,
Asp, grasp, wasp, demesne, cork, work.

A of valour, vapid vapour,
S of news (compare newspaper),
G of gibbet, gibbon, gist,
I of antichrist and grist,

Differ like diverse and divers,
Rivers, strivers, shivers, fivers.
Once, but nonce, toll, doll, but roll,
Polish, Polish, poll and poll.

serbian, croatian, english, russian, c sharp, java, python

Pronunciation-think of Psyche!-
Is a paling, stout and spiky.
Won't it make you lose your wits
Writing groats and saying "grits"?

It's a dark abyss or tunnel
Strewn with stones like rowlock, gunwale,
Islington, and Isle of Wight,
Housewife, verdict and indict.

Don't you think so, reader, rather,
Saying lather, bather, father?
Finally, which rhymes with enough,
Though, through, bough, cough, hough, sough, tough??

Hiccough has the sound of sup...
My advice is: GIVE IT UP!

We're taking our pants right after our hat. Day of the burrote when?

Actually,search for "english is a funny/weird language". There are a few variations. One example:
englishforums.com/English/IsntEnglishAFunnyLanguage/dbzbk/post.htm

>germans being cucks

Color me surprised

Language learning is a hobby for some people. Almost everybody has "inefficient, stupid" hobbies.

Fucking hell, took me too long to realise that was supposed to be nigger English, and I still can't fully understand it..

I forgot who wrote this, but enjoyed it when I first read it. It's a good test of English skill.

Actual lol

muhammad saeed (formerly cock)

it was written in 1922 by Gerard Nolst Trenité

most natives cannot successfully read it aloud (at least their first try)

>lol
Are all these new lol fags holes or pleddit?

I was a radio announcer for awhile and my parents made me read it before starting school. The only thing that trips me up really is console as it's context, and therefore pronunciation is not obvious until the next words. You read ahead about a sentence in your head when announcing.

its a mutt language invented by a mutt race, what do you expect?

mobile poster :^)

We should do a vocaroo.

>and especially against other "synthetic" languages like spanish or greek.

What's a "synthetic" language?

I'd love to hear a non-native give this a try

underrated

A slav invented the computer, dumbo.

I just thought of Pajeet or a chink trying to read this. It would be gold.

It is weird as that works the same with a/an in English but the is still fine for anything for some reason.

Not seen this before, thanks for sharing!
>most natives cannot successfully read it aloud (at least their first try)
I did reasonably well, but there's a fair few rhymes that don't work in my Manchester accent. It's mostly the quality of certain diphthongs that escape me. When I encounter them in a messed up rhyme, I'm often surprised. "Hang on, SAUCE is supposed to rhyme with CROSS? WTF?" We don't have the two different U sounds either (bull and but sound the same in my accent), but I can at least approximate them by putting on a Southern pronunciation.

All of the rhymes work for my Midwestern American accent. A lot of the words aren't in common use anymore though.

You'd be surprised at how few can read anything aloud and make it sound halfway decent.

When I was studying moon runes Amenbo no Uta was the poem of choice to teach everyone gaigin included how to speak properly. Kind of interested if similar things exist in other languages.

>realize I'm posting in a slide thread
>yet genuinely interested
>they're improving

>Why is English such a difficult language to learn?
It is a hodge podge of many romance languages and even mumbo-jumbo picked up other places.

It does not follow any real set of rules, and any "Rule" you may have herd is only partially true. Sentence structure makes no sense, and there are too many irregular verbs. Too many words spelled the same, sound the same mean the same or worse, mean different things.

Have you seen "one hundred thousand million poems"? It's originally french but there's an English version. Dual both on Web as the original printed version was incredibly expensive to print. It's 10 sonnets that always make sense no matter how the lines are arranged.

>business card

mmh. The real question here is, why none of you lazy fucks have called him already, questioned him about his cock service and uploaded the audio for our amusement

???


>captcha grace tank

Hundred thousand billion poems. Not million.

I swear to god people who speak seven languages only learned them so they can tell everyone they meet that they speak seven languages, in all seven languages so as to maximize the number of people that know.

It only seems like it because of how they divide the numbers.
In the west we have a 7 digit number usually preceded by a 3 digit area code (ie. XXX-YYY-YYYY). The number in the OP is only one digit longer, with a zero prefixing what I can only assume is the area code, maybe a country code or something.

No, they can get all fucked up with mobile numbers, sometimes 20 digits. In this case the leading 0 is an international country code. U.S. and Canada are both 1 because they're the same system.
>t. Phone company employee

I did that too when I was a kid

Silent letters and letters that can have very different sounds depending on what surrounds them

Muhammed is a cock though

>he thinks serbian, croatian, serbocroat, bosnian, montenegrin-serb and croatbosnian are different languages

Not really any more difficult to learn than most other languages. Probably a bit easier comparatively with it being the most widely spoken language in the planet.

It's hard to learn, say, Kazakh in the US with how few resources there are. A guy wanting to learn a second language anywhere on the planet is going to have a pretty easy time accessing English. The human brain is wired to learn language, so the biggest obstacles mostly come down to accessibility and how closely related that language is to one you already know.

If there is an issue with English, it's the fact the British/US split, arguably inadequate alphabet, and rather haphazard pronunciation, and that last bit is more the fault of poor tools for learning, neglecting the basics to learn as fast as possible, or a fear of failure keeping people from trying.

> (OP)
>>business card
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>mmh. The real question here is, why none of you lazy fucks have called him already, questioned him about his cock service and uploaded the audio for our amusement
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>???
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>>captcha grace tank

Noone? Really? Cmon guise, some of you pick up the phone now!

literally this

Because it's not just mumbling shit with O or A at the end of it like spic babble.

>All of the rhymes work for my Midwestern American accent.
Lucky you - I used to teach English, and sometimes the students would laugh in the very first lesson when I'd invariably have to read and "mispronounce" the word *introdUction*. Little bastards...

Saying hello in 7 languages doesn't mean you speak those languages

You don't capitalize a noun.

Speaking several very closely related languages is actually damned hard! It's difficult to put them in "different cupboards" in your mind. Try learning Aragonese and Leonese and you'll see what I mean.