Pol redpill me in national socialism

Pol redpill me in national socialism.

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> Ethnic and racial homogeneity
> High-quality homogeneous population makes essentially everything work well
> Capitalist economy in practice with strict regulations
> Collective good over common good
Also this

> Collective good over common good
kek, meant
> Collective good over individual good

people here are retards OP. smarter than the average person, by far, and way smarter than the average journalist or political follower, but still retards.
the whole idea behind natsoc is that communism is the worlds greatest threat. we would all prefer to be free, and allow everyone to self-determine their lives, but unfortunately it does seem that the communist and subversives will always win.
why? because people are stupid. and they can't see through rhetoric designed to appeal to their feels and emotions.
now considering that stalin and mao ended up killing roughly 100 million people in the 20th century via communism, i would personally say they vindicated hitler and even his methods.
truly communism IS the greatest threat the world has ever seen.
however, nazism is only slightly better. it's still the second worst. it's an acceptance that freedom and self determination CANNOT fundamentally exist because people don't want it, and so a leader must simply recognize this, and instead of using the government to destroy positive values and create some sick, diluted, neurotic and ultimately bad-for-everyone idea of "equality", the government should use its authority to create positive values and effect a positive end for its people.

it blows though OP. don't buy into the nazi meme. buy into the old fashioned, founding fathers, american libertarianism meme. buy into the american civics meme. that's what worked great for a really long time.

look at germany today. hitler basically cucked his own people by killing off all of the free thinkers and dissenters. now that those people are out of the gene pool, germans are totally unwilling to stand up for themselves these days.

buy into american libertarianism OP. small government, personal responsibility, self-determination. that's the proper way forward for the future.

he was def right about the jews though. you should always be wary of jews.

>The cross of christ in a nazi theme


Absolutely disgusting, delet now

centralized government and economy to be inevitably subverted by the global establishment. pawns in a civil war against the left, either side winning resulting in a tyranny of some kind for our dear leaders to play with. even if neither side can win the civil war, the things that will need to be done to stop the violence will end up creating the authoritarian regime both sides thought they were fighting against.

Libertarianism/the American Experiment only works/worked with an overwhelming supermajority of white people.
I mean, that's true of pretty much everything, but the point remains, National Socialism is better at this point simply because it actually recognizes that a racial/ethnic component is important and it isn't all just some autistic experiment agnostic of actual humans in the system.

Its communism for nationalists.

Actual National Socialism is Starasserism, not Hitlerism.

No, that's either Nazbol, Strasserism or just National Communism.

Leftist lunacy as all the s*cialism.

> Private property wasn't banned
> Pursued economic liberalization program
You're like the people who bitch about how Sweden/Norway etc. are socialist.

yeah i agree about the white people thing, also only males should be allowed to vote. it is true though that the founding fathers never intended multiculturalism to exist in this nation. we were always supposed to be a white nation, and in fact in the early days it was rather difficult for blacks to vote, even after they had been freed. so yes, we should have a white ethnostate, but it should be on the american values that worked so well before a few minor kinks in the original document were exploited. patch the holes on ethnicity and woman voters, and move on. that's how the world works best. taking what works great and fixing the problems with it for the future.

>wants to kill all the jews like he thinks hitler did
>believes the holocaust was a hoax
pick one nazis cause you can't have both

face it, hitler wasn't as racist as you are now. hitler had about 150,000 jews working for him, that he knew of. the plan was to relocate the jews not to kill them. then starvation and disease happened oops, then came the propaganda.

fact is none of you are real nazis because you're just too racist and hitler wasn't like that. hitler literally believed in #notalljews

you are too extreme for hitler nazi/pol/, hitler would reject you

read this en.rightpedia.info/w/National_Socialism

It's a meme and only taken seriously by autistic morons. Join the based centrists

Why would you ask Sup Forums to "redpill" you on National Socialism? The retards here will just make dubious claims without proven sources, because people who unironically post here are so very gullible, and yet angry at their own misfortunes.

also, likewise, something has to be done about the corporate situation. in the founding fathers days corporations were not the formidable force they are now. adam smith actually wrote about them in Wealth Of Nations, he said they could never compete with individuals and private entrepreneurs. why? because people work harder for their own money. he said the only way they could ever become a big force in the world was with government subsidies and special permissions.

so that was another hole in the boat the founding fathers overlooked. they should have added something about subsidies into the constitution, as well as regulations that make it impossible for small business to thrive, thus paving the way for corporate monopolies.

either way, the left is way wrong because corporate america is something taht provably came to exist and CAN ONLY EXIST through the help of big government. so the answer to fixing it isn't "just give the government more power and i'm sure they will do the right thing!".

all of the legislation the government rights to "stop corporations" actually helps them, but is just worded and advertized in such a way that retard leftists are too stupid to see through the smokescreen, and they think it's helping out "the people" or "the 99%" or whatever stupid shit.

it's retarded

> Posts with ancap meme flag
> Literally the stupidest, most meme-tier ideology that has ever existed

It's a term people shouldn't be using anymore. The ideas are still solid, but as Hitler said in Mein Kampf you shouldn't use the symbols or terminology of an old and unpopular movement.

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true he did believe in #notalljews and it's true that he didn't try to "kill them all", but he was fairly clear user that they had to be all rounded up and kept in special camps, until such time as the war was ended and it became practically feasible to export them all outside of germany boarders to madagascar.

>Posts with an American flag
>Literally the stupidest, most meme-tier country that has ever existed

Strasser was a complete cuck on the Jews though. He outright denounced anti-semitism. The NSDAP was nothing before Hitler built it.

the united states of america is literally the greatest nation ever on the face of this earth. it's provable. anyone who says differently is jealous.

Anyone who's a self-identified Nazi in current year is either a larping Jew trying to hurt white nationalist movements, or has a sub-100 IQ, and could have just as easily become a SJW given the right environment.

>smoke and mirrors: economic policy edition

Except Hitler had massive economic growth and reduced massive unemployment to almost nothing.

yeah sure, but he didn't want to kill them is my point. no legitimate nazi would advocate for genocide

if hitler heard you say "gas the kikes" he'd probably cringe or smack you

some nazis are really smart. some of them are just people who really understand the depravity of communism and how far reaching the influence of subversives are. and where our unelected leaders in the UN, and "democrats" like hillary clinton, barack obama and chuck schumer are really taking us.
i still disagree with them, but there really are two types of nazis. the edgy LARPer, who doesn't know what he's talking about and just wants to shit on gays and people different than him, and the (usually ex libertarian) intellectual type who realizes that humans, given a choice, will almost invariably CHOOSE their own destruction and CHOOSE to be lied to, swooned, and BSed (as democrats and leftists do) until its too late and they're caught in the web of totalitarianism.

if you're going to have totalitarianism you might as well at least have totalitarianism that expounds positive viewpoints, values and builds a sustainable, bright future, with sustainable, bright genetics for the future generations.

still i disagree with nazism, and i believe in right-wing libertarianism, very close to what the US was originally intended to be.

i agree, and it is the republic as the founding fathers created it that made america into such a success that it took decades of subversion and corruption to bring it down.

revitilize and restore the republic and put in place protections to prevent a future subversion.

took a long time to carefully fuck america. decades. and it stood strong for a long time before the subversion even began.

bring it back. let 1776 commence again

I'm sure there are some very smart people who agree with National Socialist ideals. But the smart ones stay in the closet. They don't show up to right-wing gatherings with Hitler t-shirts and Swastika flags.

lmfao i just got the most hilarious image of hitler bitch slapping some nazi who said "gas the kikes!" in my head. fucking hilarious.
yeah it's true, hitler wasn't ever someone who spoke positively about murder or genocide, and there's nothing to suggest, even if you believe the official narrative, that he WANTED to kill jews. it was always a matter of necessity because he simply could not afford to keep them alive anymore.
even in the posen speeches, the only piece of physical evidence that actually exists to prove such a plot existested (if you believe its real) himmler is very crestfallen and grave about what happened. it's not like "hur durrrr! yes! we are gunna gas the jooos! everyone clap now!"
it's more like "fuck, we really have no choice but to do this at this point and time. this is horrendous, it's war and we gotta do what we gotta do".

You're right on Strasser however I prefer Strasserism over Hitlerism since Hitlerism just removed the Jewish bourgeois and replaced them with a capitalist one and mostly betrayed the workers.

Eh, the Founders honestly were closer to fascists than what passes for modern libertarians. They did use the fasces before Mussolini.
We're going to need authoritarianism to get it back there though.

I've talked a lot with Strasserists and have listened to material on it, but I don't see the need for a planned economy and lack of private property. Why restructure the entire economic system and way of life? Strasser wanted to restructure Germany to be an agrarian society.

Stands for peace cooperation and a free Europe.

m.youtube.com/watch?t=56s&v=ukwA--tIokg

no! that's not true! it's the opposite dude! a lot of those people who show up to those gatherings are brilliant people, honestly! they're all intellectuals and very well spoken.
well, you might be right in the sense that they don't usually hold the swastika flags though. that part is true. the smarter ones are usually lower key.
those people though like spencer or david duke and the people who surround them are very, very intelligent and some of them do indeed identify with nazism or some kind of variant of it.

again, i still disagree with them, but it isn't like the media portrays it at all. they aren't "idiots" or "mouthbreathing droolers" or anything like that. they're immensely intelligent people if you listen to them speak.

>founding fathers were fascist
this is probably the most ignorant comment i've ever read on Sup Forums. this is only true if you use the current day, leftist definition of "fascist" as meaning "anyone who is right of center politically".

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it's always easier to give someone power then to take it back. the founding fathers brand of authoritarianism, if you can even call it that, was strongly associated with decentralization. it was more about the states holding the power then some central federal tyrant. so i would not say fascism and 1776 republicanism go hand in hand, they still seem to be rather polar opposites. big government authoritarianism vs small government authoritarianism. a libertarian fascist is almost a total contradiction but i see your point and don't entirely disagree

Yes, if one has actually read Mein Kampf then one should not identify as a National Socialist.

I don't agree with everything Strasser wanted, some of it is flawed but I think a planned economy ruled by the government would be good as it would have no external Jewish influence. I respect Hitler and what he did for the movement but in my eyes he betrayed the working class of Germany. He did some good for it but also fucked them over in some ways.

Hjalmar Schacht knew more about economics than you ever will

I never said they were fascists, but the Founders believed in a socially coherent, structured, and traditional society. Many modern libertarians are far from that. The Founders believed that one had a responsibility to society and the system they created was an Aristocratic Republic, which again strays away from libertarianism.

it's good for the ones around you/like you
it is what every living creature apparently does... except for commies

srsly like the founding fathers were basically libertarians. their ideology was the polar opposite of fascism. i think you just don't even know what "fascism" is. and especially if you look at them in context of their times, you'll see their ideas were revolutionary and you owe all of your freedoms and ability to self-determine to them and their ideas. very sad when people today refuse to recognize the innate positive influence of the founding fathers on their lives. worse still when they say stupid things like "omg they were fascist!"

dude it's so easy for you to say that today when you're hiding behind a massive military and a nuclear arsenal. you don't live under the threat of armies invading your land, murdering you and your family, raping your wife, and then moving on to the next place. i am sorry but seeing this level of ignorance is depressing.

Think of a society that gets rid of the unwanted in a constant process of selfelimination. First they kill minorities, than whites with defects and in the end they will find a reason to kill you. This process is against natur but in contrast to every other social evolution it does not support supernatural efficiency since every supernatural efficiency like since is based on creativity. Fascism doesnt work because in the end there are no people left since nothing is good enough. Still a fascist? NS? fasten your seatbelts use the exit bag.

>I think a planned economy ruled by the government would be good as it would have no external Jewish influence
governments are always subverted. the only solution is smaller government for less subversion.

the top jews (which should be distinguished from the average jew who is merely a pawn at worst or usually just an average guy not deserving of death) are always going to win, it's what they've done for decades. the founding of america took this into account i think and they made a system so decentralized that the corruption process took many many decades and by then the prosperity ahd already kicked in and it was too late. we just need to hit the reset button on that

A government exists to serve, protect, and preserve its citizens and in return the citizens serve, protect, and preserve the government. If the government fails to do its job it is up the the common citizens to come together and set up a new government that can do its job.

It is hard to take away power, but the damage done to our people and civilization requires an authoritarian government. How can you have a free society with a hostile, and alien foreign elite? A great amount of restructuring needs to be done before we can become a republic again.

How did he betray the German worker? Wages improved, more were employed, more leisure was allowed, etc.

Sand submissive religion stronk

How is anything I said ignorant? How is America's security relevant to the discussion? America is already being invaded, our people are being killed, and we are being replaced.
I'm very well studied on fascism. I never said they were fascists, but rather that they are closer to fascists than modern libertarians. They would be incredibly angry at the mess America has become.

how can you have an authoritarian government with a hostile and alien foreign elite inevitably corrupting and subverting it?

decentralize and there is more corruption required to seize less power. and if people are on to whats going in it would become nearly impossible. and you would have to wait generations before being able to try again.

i think the founding fathers may have been a secret organization dedicated to founding an america capable of resisting the global establishment. designed from the ground up to be resistant to corruption. over time that way was lost. time to reboot the 1776 republic for a new millenium

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What is this picture?

But with a smaller government it's just easier for the system to be destroyed since there isn't a large state to enforce it.
He also banned Trade Unions and privatized lots of the economy. I'm not saying everything Hitler did was bad but it stands to lots of improvement, I respect their beliefs on the environment and how they started the economic miracle but I doubt that miracle would have lasted very long had they won the war.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(1099)

>How is anything I said ignorant? How is America's security relevant to the discussion?
if you don't understand how americas security is related to a discussion on why the founding fathers, say for example, required military service, then........i dunno what to say even.

>I'm very well studied on fascism. I never said they were fascists
>Eh, the Founders honestly were closer to fascists than what passes for modern libertarians
you may not have said it exactly but pretty close. equating "founding fathers" with "facists" in any way is hugely ignorant. the only reason you enjoy the standard of living and freedom you do today is because of them and your mental gymnastics to try to paint them otherwise is sad and betrays a lack of understanding on your part about the world around you and just how dangerous and hostile it can be towards an unprotected individual.

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If the authoritarian government is fundamentally hostile to subversive and foreign elements, how could they subvert it? Subversion can only be done in an open society, listen to Yuri Bezmenov on how it is done. We cannot reinstate a republic right off the bat as our people are already too poisoned with subversive ideals. The subverters need to be uprooted, and a new generation needs to be taught the truth. Only then can we have a republic once more.

also i'm pretty sure the founding fathers had nothing to do with cultural marxism, if that's what you're implying.

Heil Europa!

The globalists are pushing white supremacy hard in the counterculture, they want a race war.

how is it easier to destroy 50 small governments loosely connected then it is to corrupt a single all powerful government?

the state is always the enemy, government will always betray us and can never be trusted. give the state as little power as possible and it will have less power to destroy you.

Yes there really are very bad jews out there. Many but not all.

>If the authoritarian government is fundamentally hostile to subversive and foreign elements, how could they subvert it?
by lying
by telling you they believe one thing while doing another. and because the general public is so stupid and subverted they are likely to succeed in the lie. meanwhile for all you know your chosen leaders could be puppets of the elite.

the elite are not always easy to spot. i don't think we even know who they all are. they have puppets planted everywhere so that any winning government will already have subversive elements baked in from the begining.

we need to ignore and not respond to centralized leadership. tune out the power structure and stop participating. develop our own parallel system and a "free market" of smaller competing governments that have to achieve success as the source of any power.

They got rid of the Jews. Basically impossible to fail from that point on.
If USA got rid of its Jews it would be 5X as powerful within 10 years. Possibly more. The only reason China can compete is because USA has millions of Jews working together to enslave and destroy USA from the inside.
Even in spite of that USA is still leading the way somehow, but how much longer?

The Founders did require conscription, which is a fairly fascist idea in of itself, especially in the modern era. You aren't clearly articulating your ideas which solely sits on you.

You should do more reading on the Founders then take a look at modern libertarians. After that, take a look at modern fascists and tell me which group is more similar. Hint: it's not the degenerate supporting libertarians. The reason I enjoy the standard of living that I do is because I live in a country that is majority white. For ourselves and posterity.

The issue with that is starting that process though there needs to be strong brotherhood of white brothers who need to meet and plan consistently.

They would have hated cultural marxism, while modern libertarians don't. Go read what they thought about Jews.

how many modern libertarians are merely establishment stooges? the libertarian party in the us is mainstream establishment and simply doesn't count as real libertarianism. just as the conservative relublican party isn't really conservative or pro-republic but merely centrist establishment status quo.

there are libertarians of all kinds, those that support degeneracy, and those that don't.

Europeans dying for (((holyland))) great job there, almost as good as the 4th crusade :) Maybe read his works and not show me a picture? I was in a Mosque , does that make me Muslim?

Daily reminder the only reason the UK became powerful was because we banned Jews. Was shit prior to that. Gradually became more powerful from that point on. Then a traitor let them back in and a gradual decline began

>The Founders did require conscription
yes they actually did you ignorant fuck. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States
stop. just stop. you don't know the first thing about what you're talking about or the world around you. you benefit from everyone elses hard work then sit and whine "muh libertarianism". you know what? i'm a libertarian too, but i'm not a self-centered retard. i recognize that there is this little issue of SURVIVAL that unfortunately does not come cheap or free on planet earth. and where there are real world, practical reasons to institute a law or requirement (like making sure that your fucking country isn't overrun by a foreign army that only wants to murder you) then it's necessary to pass them. idiotic moron.

The elite and subverters are of course Jews, who are very easy to spot, especially in today's age of DNA tests. Only by smashing their power and uprooting them, can we have a successful republic. They will not allow you to have one otherwise.

i know, i agree with you fully, tell this retard he is the one that needs to hear it.

youtu.be/vXDCDsbWuNU
youtu.be/lLx2NCp9_jE

Man, i downloaded all those kinds of videos.
When i'm thinking about that, that gives me hope and make me happy.

It would be easier to destory them since the fact a government is small it conotes that it is less organized and complex thus easier to subvert.

That's exactly what I was referring to. Libertarianism is currently not fit to fix the problems we have.
I literally did say the Founders required conscription. They also would have been able to read and write English, which you seem to struggle at.

I'm the same person you absolute moron.

no, we just need to develop and spread the meme of passive resistance to centralized authority. once people tune in, they'll eventually drop out.

no violence or meetings or planning required at that stage. afterwards many smaller governments will emerge organically to fulfill the functions once filled by big government. these parallel institutions will have to compete by offering people the systems they want to participate in.

or maybe not. that might not work. but then i don't think authoritarianism can ever remain uncorrupted

meanwhile plenty of "people of color" would rather close the borders and live in a white majority country, even if they wouldn't say so in those words. and improved conditions in minoroty communities could reduce birth rate. i see no need to kick them all out and any plan to do so will simply never see any major support from white people in general.

Nat-soc is the best way for white people to stay strong together and survive.

This is them or us. That's what Hitler understood.

Still i think this is time for white people to become fully isolationnist, and just take part to commercial exchanges, or tourism to run the economy. That's all we need.

Europe in my opinion should become a hermetic continent.

they're not all jews though, of the people we can see at the top of the power structure only half are jews (which is over representation considering that jews are a much smaller percentage of the population)

but anyways. who is at the very top? do you think you can spot them? do you think they are visible to us? i think not. do you think they don't have white puppets that serve their great satanic mission with conviction?

a simple genetic test will never suffice because it's just not that simple

You have far too much faith in 'people of color'. They will continue to vote away your power, and let more and more of their racial comrades into the country. Go read more about La Raza and their goals.

>the fact a government is small it conotes that it is less organized and complex thus easier to subvert.
but once subversion is complete you have less power and 49 other small local governments to subvert and keep subverted with no central authority structure to command from

True.
Many no-border globalist arent kike.
The Rockfeller are reformed christians, Bill Gates isn't a kike, none of the 4 founders of Twitter were jews.
There are many many jews in globalist, still there many goyims in the elites (freemason, the ultimate white european elite, who are betraying us)

I can generally spot them very well, their puppets are worthless without their masters, especially once the Jews are expelled out of every institution. The power structure is a lot more than half Jews. These systems are easily dismantled once the Jews are expelled. The collaborators will be a known element and if they are found out they will easily be dealt with in an authoritarian system.

then build a wall. meanwhile a republic exists instead of a democracy to avoid any sizable voting block from becomming too abusive. generally.

kicking them out is a non-starter, it's not a realistic goal. and a civil war to violently deal with them is exactly what the establishment has been shilling for for years. problem, reaction, solution with the final solution being the authoritarian government you had to create being subverted as planned by the elite (top jews) all along

You act like the Jews can only subvert one government at once but if you look at the world today that is quite the opposite.

it's socialism, hence why it's utter niggering shit.

you spot the ones they wanted you to spot. you will try to kill off the ones they sacrificed to you. they know what you want to do, they know your plans, and they have put in place counter measures that allow them to gain advantage from your victory. they will allow themselves to be salughtered all to plant the seed of subversion. creating a government that can purge an entire peoples is a government powerful enough for the elites to delite in ruling it from secret

U mean the globalist are expecting from the white people to make a mass ethnic cleaning in our countries ?
Curious.
I mean, maybe, because those people are extremely smart, they are chess players, they have 3-4 moves ahead from us.