Vegas shooter

Why do you not consider Stephen Paddock a terrorist?

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Because he's not brown

>a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

No proof of him having political views or of him doing it for political views.

Also, didn't have a turban

What organization was he apart of that made this event happen due to political or religious motivations?

If he left some sort of manifesto or claimed allegiance to a cause, then he is a terrorist. We don't know if he did that yet, but it doesn't seem like he did

Genetic fallacy

>almost a week later
>No motive
REALLY MAKES YOU
THINK

Terrorism requires a motive. It's not just a synonym for heinous violence

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Terrorists don't get sushi, COMPED
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b/c he's still playing poker
credit @youfold2me

intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping.

Intimidate or coerce. Dont need political agenda.

Where's his eyebrows?

Violence requires a motive

Because his motivation will determine that and it hasn't been announced.

Not sure user, perhaps he passed out with his shoes on

>brown terrorist commits terrorist act
omg ban all muslims!!!!!1

>white terrorist commits terrorist act
omg false flag!!1

never seen this one

Honestly, he might well be.. but so far there's no motive, and there's a lot of weird and fishy things about this case.. something doesn't smell right

Terrorism has always implied an underlying political, religious or similar type of motive. The word is now being morphed by SJWs to include any sort of violence against more than one person. But why?

>brown
Arabs are considered white here you stupid nigger

If this was terrorism then so was columbine. Then all the mass shootings that take place in Chicago every night are terrorism.

We've got to find the motive. Everyone assumed it was terrorism for the first couple of days. But now there's so much shady shit going on I'm doubting it was politically motivated.

you need a motive for it to be terrorism, so tell me what's the motive?

what's his political motive?
I don't know if he had one, but you need one to be considered a terrorist.

They believe it would make importing millions of Syrian refugees more accepted. "stats say ISIS members are just slightly more likely to commit terrorism than schizophrenic autists suffering from tfw no gf

Terrorism is defined by motives. We dont know his motive.

A terrorist needs a cause and a manifesto as they believe their deeds were justified. They believe their act of violence will inspire others to take action and they don't believe in violence without just cause. This accurately describes Timothy McVeigh or Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Stephen Paddock had a selfish motive, really more of a sick fantasy than anything else. He visited previous music festivals to act out his fantasy and chickened out before committing any violence on those previous outings. This past week he finally mustered u the courage (if you can even call it that) to carry out his fantasy shooting spree. It was not to punish anyone nor was it revenge. It was not a political statement. It was not a protest against country music or the city of Las Vegas. It was his morbid fantasy become reality.

It was what he fapped to.

They haven’t labeled him yet as they still have no motive. Patience, nigger.

Look up "terrorist" in the dictionary.
Tell us what his motivation was (hint: Sup Forums has no fucking idea).

terrorist is such a stretched word it has almost lost meaning.

Shortsighted. What is he allegedly intimidating us into doing or believing? Intimidation doesn't exist in a vacuum, it necessarily leads to something greater.

I do. He is a terror to Taco Bell and non-comped Vegas amenities.

Because... Baby Boomer Terrorist?

> white privilege
> no lives matter

Die with your rage, American lesbian!

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Who said I don't? Been saying since Day 1 that this was an ISIS attack. Yes, he's a terrorist.

This is the rarest of birds.
>mass-murder with no known motive.
Even guys who think people are reptilians have a motive. Even people who believe aliens are coming to harvest souls have a motive.
This guy has no motive.

because there is still no official motive. Terror follows some political or religous or socilogical intention. In case he did it for IS, because muh western civilisation, he would be a terrorist. If he did it because he was schizophrenic or angry because cheating wife, it would be rampage maybe combined with suicide by cops

He is a left wing terrorist, which is the largest form of terrorism after Islam

He's a deep state actor, and some sort of paramilitary spook.

He might be. If he did it for a political or religious reason, then he is. If he did it because he was bored, or nuts, or just wanted to kill people, then he isn't. This isn't that fucking hard.

*cough*I.R.A.*cough*

>inb4 Irish are Iranians or Moroccans or or what ever.

Well because we don't know his motive yet.

keep posting rare paddocks pls

a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
So if they call him a terrorist, they have to explain his leftist ideology

Did the sheriff ever say that paddock shot himself twice? I missed the first part of the police brief.

Intimidate or coerce into what?

Because he got comps all atound town

just don't know his motive yet. he was in fact that night the creator of TERROR

Based on what I've heard and my personal experience? His GF said he frequently ended up screaming in his sleep. So I'm going to end up gambling he had night terrors and stopped sleeping.

Now, normally insomnia isn't so bad, but in my personal case insomnia leads to me developing symptoms of a bigger issue. Schizophenia. After just 24 hours without sleep I'll start hallucinating. Now if I had night terrors and I wasn't a deranged weirdo to where that sort of shit would actually scare me, I could see a very bad road being paved. Like, after 48 hours without sleep I'm basically held in check only by my own mind.

It's entirely plausible he ended up going through the same shit and it stretched over a period long enough to totally fucking break him. And I doubt he was the type to toss on a video game to work off the stacked up bloodlust.

This is just devil's advocate level shit, though. Probably does have some undisclosed or undiscovered connection or some brain tumor or something. But, devil's advocate, I know what having no serotonin does to me.

Not every shooting is terrorism.
Why is it so important to liberals to label every white make shooter as a terrorist?
The guy is not religious or politically affiliated. He has no cause.
Guy is a phycopath who decided 64 years was enough and killed a bunch of people first just because he could without repercussions.

There has to be a political motive. We don't know the motive yet if there was any

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What was his motivation?
When we know that we can classify what kind of killer he was.

He is a serial killer unless a religious or political motive is discovered. Literally the definition of a terrorist.

I'll call him a terrorist when you tell me his motives and his ideology.

Well if he did this, it was terrorism. Not sure what the motivation was but terror just requires causing terror to others.

Because he killed for his own satisfaction and not in the name of Allah.

Because the motive is not clear yet. If he was just a madman acting out of frustration he's not a terrorist. If he had a political goal or cause he's a terrorist.

Terrorist by definition is somebody or organized group who insights violence for political gain
since he had no motive hes not.

Why don't you consider the media terrorists? They make the mass murderers famous by publicizing their name, pic, and life story. The blood is on their hands when the next fame-seeker kills innocents. Yet they will not use "common sense" and stop making celebrities out of killers because they need the ratings for their ad revenue.

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>No motive

Everything fits with the following theory:
>Steve is an arms dealer.
>Terrorist flip gf arranged huge deal with ISIS connections.
>Unbeknownst to Steve, this was actually a set-up to commit a terrorist act.
>Flip gf arranges "transaction" to take place in hotel room overlooking concert.
>Vegas hotels have no cameras in hallways on each floor (look it up, most likely it is because they know heaps of their clients are scum who don't wanna be filmed doing whatever it is they are doing, so they only keep data on which floors people visit, not who they visit on each floor).
>Steve wires 100k to flip gf as payment for setting up the deal.
>ISIS connections book room on the same floor.
>Steve brings up the guns for display - for 300k, you get these guns + ammo + explosives in my car + more guns later in my house.
>ISIS terrorists kill steve up close, making it look like a suicide.
>Smash out window with hammer they brought.
>Use Steve's guns + ammo to commit terror act.
>Security guard comes up
>Shoot him through the door using cameras that either Steve put there or you put there.
>Security retreats.
>Slip back to your room and act like nothing happened.
>Eventually SWAT arrives and finds Steve dead.
>Case closed, insane rich old white guy.
Steve was an arms dealer who frequently washed his money in Vegas.

This explains the following details:
>Why there were so many fucking guns in the room.
>Where all Steve's money came from.
>Why Steve wore thick gloves.
>Why Steve wore slippers.
>Why Steve pushed those 2 chairs together like that (makeshift gun display).

On cloudy details are why ISIS didn't do something to take more credit, if this is really what happened. It could be that this was a test-trial for them, and since it went off so successfully, they plan to do more in the future.

This white/brown thing the left pushes is stupid.

We had Green Environmental Terrorism and we call those whites just that -- terrorists.

A terrorist is someone who murders or terrorizes civilians in the service of a political cause.

In the case of Paddock, we don't know the cause (or someone is not telling us). He may well be a terrorist, we just don't know his cause, and if he had one.

That didn't used to be the definition. It was a person or group who asymmetrically attacked civilians to create fear in everyday life. It's been redefined because most terrorists are politically/religiously affiliated.

paddocks downstairs neighbour speaks

globalnews.ca/news/3789379/las-vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock-hotel-neighbour/

Conrade, who was in town from Emporia, Kansas, checked into the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino Sunday night and was in his room on the 31st floor when Paddock began his rampage.

“Roughly 10:30 at night, I heard the first volley of shots go off. (I’m) thinking fireworks from the concert that was across the street,” Conrade said in an interview with Wichita’s KWCH 12 News on Tuesday. “Then they continue going off, and at that point, I realize those weren’t fireworks. It’s gunshots.”

“The hardest part was just waiting in my room and not knowing for sure what was happening,” Conrade told the Emporia Gazette. “I looked out a few times, but then realized the shooting was coming from above me and thought I shouldn’t open the curtains in case the police had a sniper and may fire back. I didn’t want to open the curtain and welcome something I wouldn’t want.”

Conrade told the Times it was “possible” he may have heard the shooter taking his own life.

“To be honest, I’m not sure. It’s entirely possible,” Conrade said. “There was never multiple semi-automatic-type fire once the full-auto stuff stopped. It was pretty much silent. Just a few random shots.”

notice he's wearing a net app hat

theregister.co.uk/2011/11/10/netapp_syria/

NetApp faces probe into Syrian spooks' use of its storage kit
FAS racks 'used to slurp email' despite export ban

NetApp faces a grilling by US senators after its storage gear helped Syrian spooks to spy on anti-government protesters during a crackdown that resulted in more than 3,500 deaths.

Contrary to US sanctions, Italian surveillance biz Area used a load of NetApp's FAS storage kit to slurp emails sent by Syrian demonstrators, according to Bloomberg. NetApp says it had no idea its products had been deployed to aid the regime and will help investigators.

I wonder if there was any semen found in the room.

Because he is a retard member of Sup Forumstards

Didn't SWAT get shot at through the door too though?

Because if they did, this whole narrative falls apart. If SWAT didn't get shot at, then this is a viable possibility, or some variant of it.

comped people are not terrorists user

Show one picture of paddock firing a rifle.

Swat did not get shot through the door. An unarmed security guard claims have been shot at through the door and only hit in the leg . Have you seen this layout? Main suite doors open to a large hallway. Yet the security guard claims have been shot in the leg, and was able to wait for the police to arrive. Paddock was dead when swat arrived.

From what I read, SWAT arrived when he was dead already. You are right, this theory hinges on there being a period of time that the hall was out of view of the security guard after he was shot.
They would have known if he was outside from the cameras, so it's possible they got away.

cnn.com/2017/10/03/us/mandalay-bay-hotel-room-what-we-know/index.html

"Subsequently they approached the room, received gunfire, they backed off and SWAT responded," Lombardo said.

Undersheriff Kevin McMahill said once the first responders had "isolated this individual to the two rooms, our SWAT team used the explosive breaching to go in and confront the individual."

This security guard is either in on it or an unreliable witness. Story doesn't make sense for the layout of room to hallway for him to watch both doors , tend to his leg, and take cover.

No clear religious or political motive. Next.

Because he had no political motivations (as far as we know)
The definition of terrorism is harmful acts in pursuit of a political aims.

imagine being famous like those guys...
>all the pussy

Or the security guard could be in on it as well, is certainly another possibility - to make sure they got away and to be a "witness" that it was definitely Steve in the room and nobody came out.

>Why do you not consider Stephen Paddock a terrorist?
No established motive. If he did it for any religious or political goal/ideology, then it was terrorism.

>Because he's not brown
Fuck you. Any cikir retard can get infected with Islam, not just the brown ones.

If he was an arms dealer he would have access to actual full automatics and more destructive weaponry. He'd have guns that were illegal or not bought at legit places. He wouldn't be resorting to using bump stocks.

You guys all look nuts desperately grasping to various conspiracy theories. No one knows what the fuck his problem was at this point. It could very well turn out he had a brain tumor like the austin shooter, or was simply mentally ill. To think he had to be either an arms dealer, ISIS or a fed plant just makes you retarded. There is zero evidence for any of that. You're trying to hard to make this into a more elaborate story, perhaps because you don't want to accept a lone individual could be driven to do this shit for no reason- which all the logical evidence is pointing to right now.

*color

he's been spotted at anti-trump events, retard

So the ISIS arms dealer theory is kaput. Only way multi-shooter theory could work at this point is if Paddock agreed to be a fall guy. He definitely killed himself, he wasn't left dead.

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"Because I like it" is a motive, but it's not terrorism.

because he comped the fuckin sushi rolls bru

are you this fucking retarded. You are all fucking confirmed for autism faceblindness. The resemblance is fucking superficial he has none of the specificity of either of the paddock brothers.

Fucking hell i'm wasting my life with mentally deficient retard autists in this shit hole

this gives me a boner

fuck women i love seeing them be put in their place where nature intended them

Because he had no (as of yet) known Political Goal behind his violence

This explains the following details:
>Why there were so many fucking guns in the room.
If im gonna shoot some people with just one particular gun, it makes sense to take a bunch more, incase
>Where all Steve's money came from.
accountants are good with money. probably from investments, savings, cooking meth?
>Why Steve wore thick gloves.
cold hands from the wind up that high with two windows blown out would be pretty chilly
>Why Steve wore slippers.
see above
>Why Steve pushed those 2 chairs together like that (makeshift gun display).
was enjoying the visual aesthetic. or setting up
boobytrap ala moe syzlaks shotgun door alarm.

>We had Green Environmental Terrorism and we call those whites just that -- terrorists.
We had french spies bomb a boat in our main port due to its use in stopping them from detonating a nuclear test in waters that would directly effect us. not terrorism because ummm diplomatic incident?? why 'murica dindu nuffins? france is pretty much a commie country.

>Fucking hell i'm wasting my life with mentally deficient retard autists in this shit hole
Praise

Because he accomplished things in life, was successful. I mean, try to get on his level, it's not like everybody works at fucking Taco Bell. If Steve wanted sushi, he'd jump on a plane, toss out the pilot, and fly to Japan and eat some damned sushi, off a virgin's belly, desu.

The layout certainly makes no sense how he could have watched both doors and be behind cover to where 200 rounds shot down a hallway only hit his leg once

He's not. He's an American.

Because they will not disclose his motive.

Shooting and hurt people is not Terrorism.

Shooting and hurting people to intimidate them into accepting your political demands is Terrorism.

Because I hate country music too

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He just wanted Fritos Locos Gorditas. Was that too much to ask?

He had no goal, motive, or message.

Exactly my thoughts. Of course that retarded faggot didn't reply.